BALATA GOLF BALL vs TITLEIST PRO V1X w/ Mark Brooks

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This video features a balata golf ball vs Titleist Pro V1x golf ball in a head-to-head test on Trackman with special guest Mark Brooks, the 1996 PGA Champion, in the 2nd Swing Tour Van fitting bay at the PGA Coaching Center at PGA Frisco.
Sold core golf balls, such as the Titleist Pro V1x, were introduced to golf shortly after 2000, quickly rendering a balata golf ball useless for tour professionals. This test shows the difference between a modern Titleist Pro V1x vs a balata golf ball.
0:00 Intro
1:58 7-iron w/ Titleist Pro V1x
5:06 7-iron w/ Titleist Professional 90
11:33 Callaway Big Bertha Driver w/ Professional 90
15:03 Callaway Big Bertha Driver w/ Pro V1x
17:46 PING G430 Max 10K w/ Pro V1x
19:48 PING G430 Max 10K w/ Professional 90
21:12 Data & Conclusions
In this video, 2nd Swing's Drew Mahowald is joined by 1996 PGA Champion Mark Brooks to test a balata golf ball, the Titleist Professional 90, against a modern golf ball, a Titleist Pro V1x, in a head-to-head test on Trackman.
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7 июн 2024

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@tcofield1967 20 дней назад

It still makes me wonder what a 1963 Jack Nicklaus would have done with a modern ProV1x and any new type of driver. He was in the 270s with equipment that was ridiculous compared to today. I remember always wanting these Tour Balata balls as a high schooler but I also know that I didn't have the ball striking ability to actually hit them. One bad swing would put a really nice smiley face on the ball and ruined it for the rest of the round.

@gmbtempe 20 дней назад

I remember going from the Tour Balata to the Professional and it felt like a huge upgrade. I almost feel like the Professional was a bridge between the and did not play like I remember a Tour Balata. A real comparison would be the Tour Balata to the Pro V, I bet that is a solid 20 yards. Those old Tour Balata's, and it seemed like it was Maxfli and Titleist who had the best balls, if you generated a bad face/path swing it was dead, friggen curved off the planet.

@dwboston1 8 дней назад

The Titleist Professional was a transitional ball in the period in between the Tour Balata and the Pro V1. It was a wound ball with a urethane cover, so not a true balata ball. A little more durable than a balata, but you could still put a "smile" in them with a thin shot. They were expensive as well for the time. The solid-core urethane balls were the game changers. Tiger had his dominant year from late 1999-2000 with the Bridgestone-produced Nike ball, before the Pro V1 came out near the end of the 2000 season and closed the technology gap (golf ball-wise at least).

@chrisbrimhall1613 15 дней назад

I played on my high school golf team in the late 70’s. Our golf coach would give us 1 Titleist Balata to play our match with. It would last about 4 holes until you hit a slightly thin shot, then the big cut “ smile” would happen to the ball and that was it for that ball😄 talk about high spin….boy

@michaelreilly5888 22 дня назад

Mr. Brooks still has a very solid swing. Excellent video!

@2ndswing 21 день назад

Thank you for watching!

@Sean_Farmer 22 дня назад

I remember playing the Professional 90 and thinking it was a great ball...until the Pro V1 came out. There was a big change in distance for me, going from a 255-260 carry to a 265-270 carry with my 8 degree Callaway Warbird.

@2ndswing 21 день назад

Sounds similar to how everyone's distance changed with the Pro v1

@doc_adams8506 16 дней назад

The Professional, I played the 100, was a great ball looking backwards. The urethane cover was much more durable than the true balata of the tour professional. My other favorite ball of the 90s was the Wilson Ultra Tour Balata (synthetic balata). My driver with the Wilson was a TPS Powerbilt 7.5 degree face with an Aldila HM-40 stiff shaft. The metal head was about the size of a decent sized apple. I transitioned to my first titanium head (270 cc), Tour Edge Bazooka, when the Professional appeared later in the decade. I was in my 30s and long off the tee. In their time, I drove both of them well. The comparison is flawed. You can't compare something relatively new, ProV1, against a ball that sat on a shelf for 25 years. Mark is right about the solid core revolution. The Professional went from being a premium ball to obsolete overnight. It was crazy.

@npvaughn 22 дня назад

Not to be too much of a stickler, but the Professional 90 was a urethane-covered liquid-core wound ball. The Tour Balata was the balata ball from Titleist during that era. However, the numbers should be comparable to the same compression Tour Balata. I do love these kinds of tests. Keep up the great videos!

@ballzmckracken7919 22 дня назад

Agree, the professional was actually longer and more durable than balata. Nothing spun like balata balls. Maxfli HT and Titleist balata were my dad’s ball of choice. They weren’t cheap and didn’t last long. I was lucky to have some in my bag back then, but mostly played the DT.

@thomasgodfrey758 20 дней назад

Anyone who starts with “Not to be too much of a stickler “….is a stickler😂

@Jeebizz101 18 дней назад

@@ballzmckracken7919 remember if you thinned one of the balata balls it left a huge smiley face in the cover 🤣

@bigdogpete43 11 дней назад

Dude is eligible for Social Security and still hits a 7 iron 180.

@2ndswing 10 дней назад

Goes to show how far golf equipment has come. He has acknowledged he was not hitting his 7 iron near 180 during his playing days. It's also worth noting that most of these pros focus more on the carry distance than the total, especially with irons

@julievance9695 21 день назад

Two comments: First, I'm surprised at the low spin on the Professional. What is the loft on the 7 iron? Second, the Professional has been sitting on a shelf for 25+ years. Wound balls were known to deteriorate over a period of time much shorter than 25+ years.

@robertott9925 14 дней назад

Amazing, solid contact, show how amazing pros are....

@2ndswing 14 дней назад

Exactly! Watching mark swing is a treat

@ASATBase 19 дней назад

Mark Brooks a signature RAM wedge guy is worth listening too. old Club + Old ball = more runout .hmmm

@FittinToGet 8 дней назад

Back in the day, my favorite ball was Maxfli revolution...But don't thin it with a wedge...

@johnmiller7682 20 дней назад

You can't every really compare older balls with newer ones. That's because they don't make the older version any more, and everything used in making a golf ball, deteriorates over time. Basically, golf balls go bad over time.

@VideosbyStew 16 дней назад

Yep, Got a free box (12) of titleist balata 100 in box never opened, last year, they were warped and all misshapen, not even usable.

@Matthew-yj1nd 14 дней назад

I think you need to be swinging around 112 to 115 to see the 20yrd difference between those balls. I remember going to the prov1 when it first came out and I picked up about 20 yds and 112 was my avg driver swing at the time.

@2ndswing 14 дней назад

Definitely - higher swing speed will show a bigger difference for sure

@williamdenton5716 8 дней назад

You would have seen a more demonstrative difference in some key categories had you been able to use an actual Titleist Tour Balata, as opposed to the Titleist Professional used here.

@russellfothergill9082 22 дня назад

Problem with this test which outdoor testing confirmed is that spin is major diff on old vs new ball and as spin is in italics means that trackman hasn’t picked up and is estimating. Would be better using quad on this test if you have

@2ndswing 21 день назад

Good note, and definitely something to keep in mind. Thanks for watching!

@Golfzilla5000 16 дней назад

love the vid, and it was interesting how the 7 iron didn't change much at all (but having said that, the modern 7 irons aren't close to the 7 irons of the 1990's either). One thing i do wonder about though --- the difference in driver, after all was said and done, was about 20 yards. Sounds fair enough. But listening to the owner of the Krank golf company, he's said before that modern drivers need a swing speed of about 110-115 mph to start making a real "trampoline effect" out of them. Next time you do this test, can you get a high speed guy (somewhere in that 115 mph driver clubhead speed category) to do it? Just out of curiosity to see if the difference is still about 20 yards, or if it balloons up to something ridiculous like 50 yards or something.

@2ndswing 16 дней назад

Good feedback here and yes, we will add it to the list. Would make sense if more swing speed resulted in a much bigger difference proportionally

@tonysanta3497 11 дней назад

Interesting how lower lofter irons have an effect on the balata ball. I personally use more traditional lofted irons to keep up on spin.

@2ndswing 10 дней назад

You're not alone there!

@StuMarston 11 дней назад

18:41 I don't see that swing being a near 300 yard swing.

@2ndswing 10 дней назад

I don't know what to tell you...the numbers all line up and correlate! 30+ yards of rollout is not unheard of with spin that low

@t.j.mcnelis3999 14 дней назад

dude, with the irons, you kept the prov hooky freak ball that ripped 178, took out all the weak ones. And yet ya kept the pro90 balata where he made a different swing and went shorter. No wonder there was a difference. Looks to me like an argument could be made that the pro90 was more consistent and had more spin. Carry deviation was 3 yards better.

@-Thunder 22 дня назад

I’d like to see the balata ball fly outside on a trackman and a GC Quad. Quads (or any indoor launch monitor) assume the aerodynamics are that of a modern tour ball so I don’t see how this could be as accurate as a radar tracking device outside. Ball speed and spin are probably pretty accurate but flight profile might not be accurate at all.

@2ndswing 21 день назад

Yes, unfortunately we were unable to do this test outside being that we didn't have a bucket of those balls to just smash out onto the range. But to your point, would be fascinating to see the ball flight

@-Thunder 21 день назад

@@2ndswing Fair point about not having enough balls. I’m more curious how Quad vs. Trackman tracks any ball that claims their aerodynamics cause a different flight. Mizuno has extended flight balls. There are “straight” balls that use innovative dimple patterns. Titleist has demonstration balls to prove how slight design changes result in radically different flight. Point being, I don’t know how indoor ball fitting makes sense - unless dimple design / aerodynamics simply don’t matter enough to make a difference in practice. Perhaps an idea for a future test.