Maybe- the problem with all these Digital Nomad style visas is you have to prove your income when I've spent the last few years making my income on paper almost non-existent.
If this visa eventuates and it's open to NZ/Aus citizens/residents then I would be interested in using it to escape, at least for a few years, prison island Australia.
Many American/Canadian/British and EU digital nomads have left Thailand for Bali. They said they are offended by the Thai 90-day visa run, which makes them feel "unwelcome"! I think Bali's new tax-free, long term visa will attract millions of digital nomads and boost the Indonesian economy in no time.
YH, Then they shamed themselves even more by legalising cannabis, . 🤡 The Thai government are definitely f.ckin up Big time! people have lost respect for them.
Thailand wants to attract wealthy people that’s why they make it hard for everyone else. If you’re wealthy you can just get the elite visa. Not sure how popular it actually is because the amount of money they want for it is ridiculous
We just got residency in Mexico and they did an iris scan. It broke my heart to do that to my children. We wanted residency to get rfc which is a tax number to pay less capital gains and less tax on air bnb. I don’t plan on being here long but I feel all this nwo over reach has given me ptsd. I know we need to renounce Canadian citizen ship and get another elsewhere and same for our corporation. I’m terrified I’m signing up for darker countries knowing it’s affecting future generations. If it’s based solely on money it would be easier.
Agreed. We've decided to hold back on immigrating to a European country and instead we're staying put where we are however the trade off is that we're in a high crime country. For the moment, we can buy a little safety but it's so tough to know what the right thing is to do for our kids.
As somebody who has been living in Mexico and Colombia since COVID first hit the US, Bali always sounded like a great place to work remotely barring those intense lockdown restrictions from recent years. The 12-odd hour time differential is something to consider too. I feel like you can get a lot of the similar lifestyle elements in Playa del Carmen or Tulum too without going halfway around the world.
Northern Bali stands to change drastically over the coming years owing to the opening of a new international airport in 2024 if plans go ahead. There are some lovely spots up there and cheap land but DYOR.
I love Bali, but it’s so crowded and many of the young tourists there behave terribly.. however the people are amongst the kindest in the world in my experience. I’ve lived in Asia and loved it, but Bali is too touristy for me. Also, at certain times of years the humidity is brutal.
Yeah but what about the other Islands. Indonesia consist of over 17,000 Islands ,so why not just relocate to maybe the island of Java or Sumatra ? , go to where the mountains are the have places cool all year.
@@harrypaatsch3818 oh why is that ? I’m Western myself and really did not encounter any problem outside of Jakarta and Bali , could you please explain?
@@muhammadj8424 my understanding is you can only extend your visa monthly in jakarata and bali. so you have to stay there. did you stay long term outside those places?
Just don't worry too much about indonesian taxes.. for the middle low income they don't push too much for the citizen to pay income tax if ur income don't have a record.. enjoy and come to indonesia..
Meh, Bali already starting to get overpopulated with people.. if they rolled this out, it won't be long until people trash up the island... where it's at now, it forces people to leave or at least reset.
@@abdana.3770 Cambodia and Thailand are better outside Bali it's Sharia law people know it they don't want to be hang for being gay or sleeping without marriage Bali is thriving bcuz of secularism of Hindus there either nobody will stay there for more than 3days in Sharia law
@@CashCatz Lombok is still developing, it'll take years to have more town like that but it definitely is a lot more quite & far less crowded than Bali. They just built a new MotoGP circuit recently in Lombok, so there's definitely development going on there.
@@robertstitson That's unfortunate, thanks for the info. Walk friendly is in my top 3 indicators for quality of life. Any walk friend Asia recommendations?
@@CashCatz as a whole in Asia, Japan, Korea, Taiwan are very walkable. Singapore is about the only recommendation I can give in SEA. Parts of Malaysia are passable also.
Great updated info always on alert!! I would love to live there if the weather is not so hot! I prefer not using AC! I would like to live in Bandung instead!,
Might as well considering some smaller cities in central/east java such as Malang, Magelang, Wonosobo, Batu or even Dieng, we have cool or rather cold climate up here, it was 2°C this morning in Dieng
The internet is very slow. Humidity is killing. Red tapes is endless. Poor health care facility. Infrastructure is lousy. Good to visit for a week, but not to stay.
My hope is that this will be aimed at Bali but be applicable to all of indonesia. Some of the cities here are very modern in every sense. I'd move to Yogyakarta any day
Not meaning to be a doomsday-er here and recently I watched a documentary from a geologist who said he predicted the tsunami of 2011 and has seen the pattern in earthquakes and predicts the next big one, which is going to be a quake of 9.5 or so, it'll be around Bali, so if you move there, make sure it is nowhere near the coastline. He said the next big one could happen anytime in the near future
I believe Southern Sumatra near Padang is more likely for a 2004 type quake. A seismologist who predicted the Boxing Day quake has said as much. Bali, less so.
Hello, could you find and post the link to this documentary, please? It would be very helpful. I've been living in Bali for several years and haven't heard of this prediction. Thank you Mr. Sulovic.
@@christryst Padang sounds familiar yet I summarised it in my head as Indonesia, which covers a wider area. Too much in my head as it is to remember details like this lol
@@erniesulovic4734 why are you promoting something if you can’t provide with the info? You are losing your credibility.. you could search and post for those who asked you
@@tr8760 Mind you what do you expect from a “Cop”….compliance to giving up freedom for illusion of health benefits form something that’s useless. No accounting for intelligence. 😂
@@pcpolice2314 But why roll the dice when they do little to protect against something that is a threat to almost entirely the very old or the very ill?
What's the subclass of this visa? I check the article on SCMP but no mention about it. Indonesian government is well-known to make an announcement of a plan but never materializes it
Hi Andrew, this is not true. the 5 years digital nomad was introduced by Minister of Tourism (Sandiaga Uno) without any approval from the Ministry of Law and Human Rights / Directorate General of Immigration and Ministry of Manpower. The Minister of Tourism wants to make Bali more famous but there was no cooperation between those Ministries yet. There would be big complains from Indonesian people in case the 5 years digital nomad visa is applicable because many foreigners will work in Indonesia without using work permit & stay permit and it would against many Indonesian regulations. Sandiaga Uno was just appointed as Minister and he wants to make new policies but it would violates laws.
Indonesia introduced 5 years Multiple Entry Visa in 2018 or 2019, but until now (even before covid-19), there was no implementation of 5 years Multiple Entry Visa, so only in the regulation, but difficult to be implemented because too many bureaucracy and political interest.
Tax wise even if one will not pay Indonesian tax but because if my income comes from my country of current residence ,, I still have to pay the local tax! so no tax advantage as such not to mention extra cost to stay in Bali
Would be nice to do a VDO about the new Elite Visa scheme (starting as of 1 Oct, now called Privilege Visa) in Thailand and get your opinion on it ....
I just heard from a friend in Bali that the President of Indonesia just got back from an international trip, less than 30 minutes after landing back in Indonesia, he announced that a 3rd booster for the covaids vaccine will be mandatory.
@@christryst bandung might be the firsr choice. it's the capital city of west java. then you can go to so many awesome places and opportunities i moved out from jakarta about 3 years ago to some place here but that's anorher story since i'm now a bit tied up fixing stuffs with my new business here jakarta the capital city of this country has too many crazy restrictions & sick politics nowadays so businesses are going bankrupt there and it's no longer comfortable there
you may ask around to find some affordable condos in Bandung some apartments have awesome condo facilities yet with a similar pricing i used to live in one of these affordable condo apts in jakarta back then. yearly rates vary between USD 1500 - 3000 lowesr monthly rate might be pretty cheap also at around USD 150 right now since units are vacant due to the pandemic 🤓🤠🥳
Indonesia has always been very strict in my opinion. If my understanding of their visa laws is correct then a foreigner can only be there for a total of 31 years. 2x3 for temporary residency and 5x5 for permanent residency. What happens if someone marries an Indonesian or has other ties there. Seems very one sided.
Yeah, relationships even with close geographical (e.g. Australia) and cultural neighbours (e.g. Malaysia) can be frosty to outright abrasive which really serves neither side. There should be far more cultural exchange - it's cheap and easy. Would be great to see closer ties in future. I agree the laws in Indonesia are far too strict for foreign investment and residence. It doesn't serve Indonesia.
@@christryst very true. I looked at their history as well and see why they do it but they can have things in place to keep their status intact. They can take some notes from the Philippines. At least there people can own condos and get a residence permit in different ways.
@@christryst Indonesia has a policy of prioritizing internal market over free market, it's an economic system that benefits the people with average IQ in the country.
I think this is not going to happen. If Indonesia opens the possibility to allow foreigners to own lands, the locals won’t have chance to own anything. Indonesia needs to be “strict” to protect their own lands from foreigners. They are open to foreigners as tourists, but almost no way for foreigners to be more than foreigners there.
@@violafairy I understand this given their colonial past with the Dutch. Many places in Asia are like that. I still think if they took some notes from the Filipinos they would have more foreigners wanting to spend money there. I think maybe foreigners can have a Hak pakai(not sure if I spelled that right) title but it's still restrictive.
No, you can't. However, a foreigner can own a property on a lease. Another way around this, is to marry a local and have your spouse's name on the paper. In the event of relationship breakdown, your spouse owns everything!
In order to do this, prenup needs to be drawn up. Otherwise the Indonesia citizen marrying foreigners also loses their rights of buying properties after marriage :)
you can buy property yet not freehold property if ur a foreigner but many of the locals don't have freehold either. mostly it's not much different these property you can always sell it again to anyone yet why even bother buying a property if you don't intend on staying for good there's a lot of consideration to buy a property since it means big investments many rich expats here managed to own their own property here but i'm not really sure how they do it tho just 1 km behind my property there's a beautiful villa here owned by an australian expat. he teaches english here yet i heard his family owns a cattle ranch back in oz
What are you complaining about the amount of paper to open a bank account abroad. When I was on a study stay in the US, I could not open a bank account without an ID number. I refused to request a study ID number. I'm not a number, I'm human and I want to be treated like a human and not under a number like a slave. I am from the EU and only people suffering in concentration camps in World War II were numbered here! Because I did not have an ID, one of the US banks even refused to cash my check with a student scholarship issued by the US office. So this is democracy and human freedom in the unbureaucraticUS.
Im confused.. I heard about this Bali Nomad visa. Then, they just anounce a few days ago that Bali is going to offer a "my second home" retired residency visa (very similar to malaysia). Did they just release news on two new visas? Wow. Bali really wants people to come back!
I'm confused why they say Bali Nomad visa. Technically, Visas are regulated by Indonesian government, not Balinese provincial government. So the visa should also applies in other parts of the country right?
So many videos and articles about all these digital nomad visas .... that DONT EXIST YET. getting sick of hearing about these things. Don't talk about them until they are real kk thx
you CAN buy it but it's not freehold many if not most of the locals don't have it either you can always sell it back it's no big deal in fact many foreign entities don't have much problem with it on second thought rent is cheap moneywise and even for me as a local i'd prefer rented property rather than buying a property since it makes more sense businesswise 🙏🙏🙏 especially at our 7% p.a. deposit rate ! 🤑🤑🤑
You have to consider that a Presidential election is coming up. Announcements will be made by potential candidates jockying for position. But even if this becomes a reality, if it remaining will depend on who is successful in the elections. Not least as minorities including digital nomads will be blamed by some candidates for many of Indonesia's problems.