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Ball Vs. Extruded Powder, Temp Stability 

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Comparison video of temperature stability of Hodgdon Varget and Hodgdon Superformance in my 6mm GT.
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@joethearcticfox
@joethearcticfox Год назад
Wow. I knew Varget was stable, but I didn't think it would be THAT stable. Thanks for the test!
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 Год назад
Excellent test. Appreciate the demonstration and data. Very, very helpful. Thank you much.
@foonus406
@foonus406 10 месяцев назад
The Hogdon extreme line of powders seems quite temp stable, saw this test repeated with 4350 and superformance and the results were similar to yours. What I don't understand is why folks test the powder in the bullet but not the whole platform as it would be in the field. It's beyond me how after sitting in the bush at -20C and lower how your ammo can cool down but your barrel and action aren't frozen - completely changing your rifle's harmonics. I'd be willing to bet you will get more variance from any of those load combinations if you put the rifle in the freezer for half a day and then repeated your test... these are real world shooting conditions for some of us up north.
@45-70Guy
@45-70Guy 3 месяца назад
I did just that but instead waited for winter to come so everything was at the same temp. Just for hunting temps though I didn’t freeze my rifle in a freezer just outside temp
@joearledge1
@joearledge1 Год назад
Good test! A way to make it easier on yourself would be to get a small cooler and a small plug in or battery powered "warmer lunch box/bag". Pre load mags, put them in the containers for a few hours, or overnight or whatever, then just take the 2 containers to the bench with you. Keep ice or dry ice in the cooler, and keep the warmer turned on. Then just grab the pre loaded mags from the containers at the bench and send it. Your method clearly works, but this has been the least pain in the butt method that I have heard of for doing this kind of temp testing. Keep up the good work.
@Is_Time_A_Number
@Is_Time_A_Number Год назад
Great test. Thank you.
@pink_love_cat4928
@pink_love_cat4928 Год назад
Great video
@45-70Guy
@45-70Guy 3 месяца назад
I tried this in my 35 whelen this year. Varget and CFE223. The CFE223 being very unstable supposedly. Tests at 20 degrees up to 50 degrees no change in either powder. I just tested at 87 degrees, varget stayed the same CFE increased 25 fps on average. Much less than i expected for temps I use this rifle. I also noticed out to 300 yards it really didn’t matter for accuracy, beyond that I’m sure it gets worse as you Extend but I’ve slowly been using some of the ball powders even though many guys say they are not a good choice
@kennygates1756
@kennygates1756 Год назад
Nice work. I've done all the test for my powders. Some of the H powders actually speed up in extreme cold.
@RobsReloading
@RobsReloading Год назад
In my experience the extreme hodgdon powders are very hard to beat.
@l800x8
@l800x8 Год назад
Another point of interest is that the faster group of Superformance is lower, so folks adjust their zero, if they know their velocities for the temperature. Makes sense that the impact is lower, since the barrel doesn't have as much time to rise before the bullet leaves. What confuses me is that I've seen POI also go up on some loads.
@RobsReloading
@RobsReloading Год назад
Not sure that impact will always go up or down based on higher or lower velocity. It seems to me it could go either way. If u believe in the vertical or up and down vibration of the muzzle as the round is fired depending on speed it could go up or down.
@JOESRQFLUSA
@JOESRQFLUSA 4 месяца назад
It appeared to me that you shot the Vargat right after the super performance. And did not give the gun 15 minutes to cool down. Regardless of the temperature instability, super performance held a tighter group. Both groups seem to hit the same elevation at the same point regardless of the instability with super performance.
@randyrichardson8516
@randyrichardson8516 10 месяцев назад
Thank you the information is very helpful!
@joelclark2130
@joelclark2130 Год назад
Good stuff my friend. Any info on six millimeter calibers is greatly appreciated. Me And my shooting partner are currently into the six millimeter craze.😮😮😮
@wayne-oo
@wayne-oo Год назад
Great info !
@johnknouse8846
@johnknouse8846 Год назад
I know Superformance is very temp sensitive, but I have a 6mm creedmoor load using 115 DTAC’s, that consistently group under 1/2 moa. Just have to be careful to stay under max charges and keep an eye on pressure signs.
@dahut3614
@dahut3614 Год назад
It's not probably not temperature stable, but LEVERevolution looks ideal for this cartridge with 105 grain Berger. It fills the case, 99.46% burned, and just over 3000 fps with under 60,000 PSI. *Work up to 37.3.*
@RobsReloading
@RobsReloading Год назад
I have very little lever evolution left and in the past with other cartridges it really was never a great performer. I also haven't really pushed the GT for velocity. It has been very happy around 2900fps. They need a Staball lever evolution.
@benbowditch9265
@benbowditch9265 4 месяца назад
First time viewer, I appreciate the test. However with the current price difference of the two, I'd take Superformance all day. Varget is literally 2x the cost. Unless you're shooting competitively past 300yd, I don't think you'll notice a difference other than your wallet being lighter 🤣Besides you can always zero your gun with a "cold load", and keep your rounds in a cooler with some ice packs prior to shooting a stage in competition.
@andysnow7458
@andysnow7458 Год назад
Very cool test. How about H1000 vs Retumbo?
@RobsReloading
@RobsReloading Год назад
I would tend to believe h1k and retumno would be very similar. I have h1k but no retumbo to test.
@VLDezy
@VLDezy Год назад
So superformance is good to shoot in colder temperatures then.
@p47rr
@p47rr 4 месяца назад
Don’t forget ball powder burns cooler. Increases barrel life. 10-20%.
@derekyates43
@derekyates43 10 месяцев назад
You din't shoot a fouler in between powder switches
@cw2a
@cw2a Год назад
💪🏼👍🏼🇺🇸🤟🏽🤘🏼
@fomerbu
@fomerbu Год назад
Try 2460
@javiersp01
@javiersp01 Год назад
So...varget ladder test from 34 and under
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