Bamboo the emu escaped! THIS was scary.

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Our favorite emu escaped from his area after a thunderstorm. Can we get him back in…
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@smittywerben1849 3 года назад

This guy is literally caring for dinosaurs in his yard. They're so cute.

@cowabungaweekly3290 3 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@jimajams7080 3 года назад

So cute til they attack you. Emus are are arseholes.

@bulbasaurhimself8914 2 года назад

@@jimajams7080 they haven't attacked these people tho

@jenniv7870 3 года назад

I like when people film treating animals sometimes it helps me figure out what to do if something similar occurs and I can deal with it safely without freaking out.

@BiterAvid 3 года назад

I agree.

@eatwhatukiii2532 3 года назад

DEFINITELY.

@kesami123 3 года назад

Also good if you need to send pics or video to your vet so s/he can diagnose something.

@T_P_W_ThachoZenjuan 3 года назад

This x a gazillion.

@karenmorse7031 3 года назад

Yes!

@vidaloca3354 3 года назад

I just love bamboo. That look on his face when he wants cuddles is priceless.

@TheKingModz 3 года назад

I love their emus as well! I may post some videos of mine sometime

@wrinklesandsprinkles 3 года назад

I couldn’t agree more!! His sock diapers were the cutest thing❣️

@Idaho-Cowboy 3 года назад

I remember when my emu named Oliver jumped the fence into the neighbors yard, he was very spooked, and the neighbor freaked out, which totally didn't help. I climbed over the fence and tried to calm Oliver down, while herding him toward a field where he'd be less likely to get hurt. As I'm trying to get the emu out of the neighbor's yard, as she was demanding, she started threating me with a shotgun. I was only 12, and luckily got the emu and myself the heck out of there. Later my Dad and brother were able to catch Oliver and get him safely back home. The neighbor had called the cops, so it made it extra difficult on my Dad. Sometimes people have less sense than critters. On aside note, I used to have a pet iguana named Peekaboo.

@Ps114REXIVD 3 года назад

I have neighbors like that! 😁

@creech444 3 года назад

I used to have a neighbor that kept an emu in like a 10x20 enclosure. The bird got so crazy and violent, they could no longer feed it or get close to it without it getting aggressive. They tried to sell it, but no one that raised Emu's wanted anything to do with it, or to have it anywhere close to their other Emus, Finally animal services had it put down. It was so sad.

@Idaho-Cowboy 3 года назад

@@creech444 That is very sad. That wouldn't be a good situation for an emu, they need space to move around. I used help raise emu chicks as a kid and they were my buddies. I could walk right up to Oliver and give him a hug. How someone handles and treats an animal determines it's level of trust in them, aggressive behavior is often (though, not always) a mirrored response, and is very difficult to work beyond.

@suhassiriki9211 3 года назад

@@Idaho-Cowboy Some people just don't get animals one of them is your neighbours.

@Chelsso0 2 года назад

What kind of crazy person threatens a child with a shotgun? I hate that about places like U.S. guns being legal its really a problem since not everyone has emotional intelligence and maturity.

@kadianae 3 года назад

Those poor babies must've been so scared to have run through the fences like that. So glad they're both safe and that they have you guys to take such good care of them.

@razorransom1795 3 года назад

Something is spooking them silly. It may not be completely thunder and or mammals. Pending where ya live and proximity to geo structures, even minor earthquakes and volcano pre stuff can make yhem jumpy if they can sense that stuff. My one bro' s cat seems to be on the ball when ones going through near that way.

@roygeorge5364 3 года назад

The emu will be okay. I live in the Bush in Australia and these birds are tough as guts mate. Glad it worked out and the Emu is where it should be.

@sy851 3 года назад

Have you ever considered making a bigger yard and bigger houses for the emus? Your place looks amazing! Wish I can one day do something similar...until then I'll get ideas from your set up

@kuceracm 3 года назад

I know you love all three emus but if Bamboo and Cashew are the mated pair you want to go with, having Peekaboo so close is probably stressing all of them out. Could be why there weren't any eggs their first season too. Adult emus need a LOT of space. Their enclosure was fine two years ago when they were adolescents, but an adult emu needs enough space in their enclosure to be able to get up to full speed with a run. Their current enclosure is adding to their stress levels as it's too small for them to run in now. I'm not trying to be critical. You obviously love your birds and are trying your best with them. But perhaps re-addressing the idea of rehoming Peekaboo and giving Bamboo and Cashew a bigger adult enclosure is the way to go.

@BellefromOz 3 года назад

For people that own emus in Aus (for meat and oil) their fences are at least twice as tall, and they have so much more space to live in. Also, the fences are usually the big metal ones that are welded to the posts. I guess since they're commercial businesses, they know the best way to keep an emu inside a fence?

@deborahbutler 3 года назад

My mum's pet emus were the same. Huge space to roam, with high wooden fences. If the fence is low, they will try to scale it. Maybe that's how they hurt their necks, trying to climb the fence in panic. Emu are highly strung.

@KakeraWolf 3 года назад

Look into paintball netting for your aviary. It has to withstand high speed projectiles. So it should be sturdy enough to keep your birds safe.

@lilymullen5418 3 года назад

I was going to say they need to put up some sort of netting to protect them and possibly put up the electric fence especially during the storm season.

@Something-Somes 3 года назад

They could tangle in netting. Birds die often from getting stuck in it because they panic.

@lilymullen5418 3 года назад

@@Something-Somes they wouldn’t be using netting for the atrium if it wasn’t “safe”. You might want to look up what paintball netting is and then rest assured if they go that route they would know how to properly attach it so the birds don’t panic and “get stuck”.

@Something-Somes 3 года назад

@@lilymullen5418 I know what paintball netting is. Its not the proper stuff to use. They need steel mesh for what they want to do with the atrium. That is what is used in zoos. I have cared for exotic animals before and I have friends that were avid paintballers that used the netting all the time. The only thing paintball netting may be good for with enclosures is too keep out leaves and stuff from falling in. Or maybe get the ghillie netting for making shade.

@lilymullen5418 3 года назад

@@Something-Somes I think the paintball netting you think we’re talking about is the wide gap stuff there’s this very tightly woven kind you can get almost what’s used for kevlar also ghillie netting would be way, way worse! You have all the loose dangly bits and whatnot for them to get tangled in.

@elizabethscott7660 3 года назад

They don't have enough space. I've never seen anyone here in Australia keep emus in such a small enclosure. The bloke down the road has 5 running on a 3 acre paddock and he has normal stock fencing, and no problems with them escaping.

@nde-mt2yc 3 года назад

Exactly, their content...

@Weeks25 3 года назад

Theres two other channels I watch that have Emus. One channel just has one Emu an although it’s locked up in a smaller enclosure then what bamboo is in an he is with other birds like chickens, ducks, peacocks & turkeys. They let him out in the mornings an put him back up in the evenings. So the emu gets to free range all day (unless they have somewhere to go obviously). He’s very very friendly too! The other channel I watch has a couple of them but they have a fairly big enclosure. My guess is it’s probably two to three times the size of bamboos an has some other animals in with it like a cow, male goat an male donkey. He moves his Emus around every couple months to different fenced in areas of his property so they aren’t always in the same one.

@nde-mt2yc 3 года назад

@@Weeks25 Thats the whole idea, to let them out and roam the property than back in at nite. Their too large to be stuffed in a Tiny inclosure...

@sycoshorts 3 года назад

I love You White House On The Hill And I Hope Bamboo Is Doing Great Best Of Luck!❤️

@whitehouseonthehill 3 года назад

Bamboo is doing well, thank you

@sycoshorts 3 года назад

❤️

@muhammadumair2498 3 года назад

Can't wait for your emus to have babies 🤩🤩🤩 And i know that feeling when you see your animal injured.. It sucks 😢.. but I'm glad they are doing great 😊♥️

@thebabybeaver659 3 года назад

@@whitehouseonthehill yes bamboo is great but white house on the hill I need your number please /I love you channel very very much I subscribed you channel but one problem please give your number 😢

@thebabybeaver659 3 года назад

@@muhammadumair2498 yes that will be great 😊👌💓

@RockBarDorpers 3 года назад

They probably need a bigger area. Glad all is okay

@sierrabloemsma 3 года назад

The editing is always on point.

@Kimichitsuzuku 3 года назад

You might want to reach out to someone with more Emus or more experience with them. I know Foxfeather Zenkova (yes, that's really her name) of Foxloft Studios Farm has at least a half-dozen Emus and has had several successful breeding pairs.

@jessies3236 3 года назад

This is what i was thinking.. They either need to learn more or rehome them. I dont mean it meanly but this just showed them what they have isnt enough for WORST case scenario.

@Avocetexotics 3 года назад

Oh no. Poor babies! Bamboo is probably one of the sweetest emus I have ever seen! It would be heartbreaking if anything ever happened to him! I'm glad y'all were able to get him before he got into any more trouble! Hopefully peekaboo heals all the way!

@American-Jello 3 года назад

I wonder if a predator got into the enclosure. That follows with two emus flipping out at the same time.

@whitehouseonthehill 3 года назад

It’s possible

@Weeks25 3 года назад

That was my first thought as well

@nevaeha4048 3 года назад

Where emus are from (Australia) they have no natural predators because they will fight anything. Although because these have been raised in a domestic setting they probably haven’t learned that from their “parents”

@American-Jello 3 года назад

@@nevaeha4048 Fascinating. I didn't know that!

@bobpool6230 3 года назад

In my own opinion you should need a large enclosure for the to run around. all they need is space and the other female can stay in their last enclosure.

@shimasfaris2917 3 года назад

Yes they need to be on a field or At least a very large enclosure

@ganjahead2k8 3 года назад

Heyo, recommending to use additional soft netting with smaller holes for the emus, it seems as if they were trying to stick their head in between the iron fencing

@cazkiwinz4300 3 года назад

Poor babies, sending healing wishes for the emus... and calming thoughts for you guys!

@PheonixArizen 3 года назад

Hate to say it but maybe it is time to rehome Cashew, give Bamboo and PeekABoo some more room and less stress.

@mythicalbeans 3 года назад

Yea

@williamj.rieger8965 3 года назад

Thunder can really spook some critters. Hope all get better. Bill

@whitehouseonthehill 3 года назад

Seems that was the case

@suzannebertussi3370 3 года назад

I'm glad you film these things. I love to see your adventures! Not everything that happens on the farm is sunshine and rainbows. It's good to see it all.

@DanBid100 3 года назад

Did I see some tears while u were hugging bamboo?!!! U r too sweet and kind

@ChrisParayno 3 года назад

Glad you were able to get your emu back! Love the mix of story time, vlogging, and working time.

@BiterAvid 3 года назад

Well this was some serious Emu Drama. Enormous and very strong bird that is also very hard-headed. This equates a potential for lots of drama. Due to your diligence is no doubt the reason there is not alot more drama. I like seeing the treatments of the animals and birds. And we all love Bamboo so we wanted to see his terrible wound and the excellent care he got.

@Asurazoro69 3 года назад

Man you ppl have such good hearts thx for taking care of nature and animals

@heatherblucher 3 года назад

Are you guys planning a bigger area for the emus? They are such big birds, they must need more room than that. It has to be like living in a walk in closet for them.

@Mlv2123 3 года назад

They have said in the past that they are going to expand for them :)

@monikastuckey8737 3 года назад

Wow! That must have been so scary. Glad everyone is back safely and healing up!

@ThaParsonsWife 3 года назад

Y’all are such a awesome team as a couple and family ❤️❤️❤️

@drabs2fabs331 3 года назад

I know that you are out of room for more babies, but I recommend on getting some Call ducks. Thank goodness that Bamboo isn't that hurt.

@gachasunshine9183 3 года назад

I was doing research on chickens and found this channel and haven't stopped watching them since I watch atleast 1 video a day you guys are amazing ily

@whitehouseonthehill 3 года назад

Thank you, we appreciate it!

@sisken12 3 года назад

You could try putting a trail cam out to monitor what’s going on at night.

@maskedmorgan1426 3 года назад

I remember when he hatched 🥺🥺🥺🥺

@kaisomasegaran737 3 года назад

Love the videos guys!! Glad Bamboo is ok. Keep up the great work.

@euginejimson 3 года назад

I love watching the videos of this channel because of just one thing, I like the way you guys treat and care for your animals 🙂

@88Atwood88 3 года назад

Maybe time to change the type of fencing to something that wouldn't harm them or having the potential of them getting stuck in? I remember you had similar incident when your lovely turkey died 😟❤️

@Mlv2123 3 года назад

Pretty sure the turkey died in a much different fencing/situation

@88Atwood88 3 года назад

@@Mlv2123 Yep it did, was net fence. But the holes in my opinion were too wide just like here. Just saying there is better options.

@88Atwood88 3 года назад

@@Mlv2123 I did say (similar) tho not the same.

@raizaintilian 3 года назад

I’m so happy bamboo and the others are okay!

@darlouthia5153 3 года назад

How scary 😦. And Becky ...! You just don’t quit ! Both of you give so much to your family and farm. It’s really motivating to see. ❤️

@souleater32 3 года назад

glad Bamboo and peek a boo are okay.

@gailrhodes2859 Год назад

Wow that was a definite scare!! You guys are amazing with all the animals!

@AliHassan-vh9id 3 года назад

I think Bamboo is the most beloved animal in this family! I just love him so one!!!!🤣😂😂..

@GoFishOffice 3 года назад

Love the animals, your stories and adventures with us and the awesome video editing! Keep up the good work!

@lizzy2k035 3 года назад

This is so scary to happen! I hope all your emu’s are safe along with everyone else 😊

@jaquelinepaul7384 2 года назад

I do not have a farm nor will I ever have a farm, True I know nothing about farm life but I can see you keep things extremely clean. I watched a couple of your videos now and wow I’ve learned so much about these birds so far I will continue to watch. You have a beautiful family beautiful property. Thank you for teaching as you go I just love this!

@1angelofthelight2 3 года назад

Wow I bet that was scary! Poor things. Glad to know that everyone is back 1to normal and doing so well. I am impressed with how affectionate they are normally. Well done

@Nayomee1213 3 года назад

Thankful all is safe and well!! You guys are amazing!! I enjoy every video, regardless of content! 💖

@Susan-qg9tm 3 года назад

Emus travel huge distances in the wild, so it's very sad to see them trapped in such a small enclosure. If you're going to keep them you should be providing them with at least a couple of acres and room to actually run, not a tiny pen.

@amadgirlwithafez 3 года назад

Agreed. I recall when they first moved here they said this enclosure was temporary... so sad to see they're still being kept in such a small space.

@deborahbutler 3 года назад

A small enclosure is ok when they're young but as they mature, they do need space. My parents had emus and one escaped, it was scary, she was found by a farmer who put a rope around her neck and tied her to the barn. But they got her back. It's useful to train them to follow you, then when they get out, they follow you home.

@elfiefromangelcity6142 3 года назад

Bamboo is the reason I subscribed. I'm so glad he's ok. He's such a sweet soul.

@aimeemoore3448 3 года назад

You guys care so much for them! Way to go.

@pippylouvlogs3363 3 года назад

It’s been a while since Iv had a notification for you guys poor babies 🥺 talking of babies 🤗 congratulations I didn’t know you guys were expecting again Yeay ❤️ I’m gonna binge watch you Vlogs now and relax thanks for the fantastic content x

@girlsunday3098 3 года назад

I am so glad he is back and safe. Breeding season is rough! I love Bamboo. 💘

@deborahcollins9623 3 года назад

Thank God you saw him!! They are so beautiful!

@christineortmann359 3 года назад

Wow! What an ordeal! So glad they are back in the pens. A lot of work keeping up with your flocks.

@last-chance_ 3 года назад

Honestly I've never agreed with the amount of land you have for the emus. They need more room for the dead runs they absolutely love doing. It's not like you have to worry about taking land from the other animals none have room to roam or live.

@leahheapp 3 года назад

I think they have already mentioned that they will be expanding their enclosure at some point!

@SilentDarkAngel16 3 года назад

@@h.s.6269 i believe they are waiting for their aviary to finish up so all their exotics can move out their pens and open up more space. they have like a ton of projects going on at once they are trying their best

@Areyousayingidontknowmyname 3 года назад

Caught between a rock and a hard place. The sort of running space they would need would be needing some serious fencing.

@megskins03 3 года назад

@@SilentDarkAngel16 trying their best isnt enough when it is so obviously affecting the animals they have taken on the responsibility for. And if they can't meet their needs they should remove some.

@JoseJimenez-ch9yx 3 года назад

@@megskins03 true or atleast stop hatching and getting new animals until the issues are addressed

@shimasfaris2917 3 года назад

They really need more space there wouldn’t be any of the problems they’ve had if they had more space

@suhassiriki9211 3 года назад

Agreed but I am sure they are working on it.

@drzgazh 3 года назад

Mine have 2 acres and thay still fight i have had to separate them. So not quite true .but it might improve some issue .

@fancybirdworldnp9208 3 года назад

I hope each new day brings closer Bamboo and peekaboo to a full and speedy recovery

@donnasanders6724 3 года назад

I love the way bamboo cuddles

@muhammadumair2498 3 года назад

Can't wait for your emus to have babies 🤩🤩🤩 And i know that feeling when you see your animal injured.. It sucks 😢.. but I'm glad they are doing great 😊♥️

@lisafisher8408 3 года назад

God bless Becky! She keeps on going as her belly grows!

@lockedin60 3 года назад

I am so glad that you insert words your sons say. Especially for older adults with some hearing issues. Way to go!

@emilye.2536 3 года назад

All the little baby birds are so cute!!! I want to pet them all, which makes me excited because my family are planning on getting some new chicks now that it is warm out.

@kimmiejoclark6943 3 года назад

I want to recommend 2 products to treat wounds. The first is Blue Kote. It's a spray which for some a little scary. The other is Equine Relief. It's a lotion. It doesn't sting or stain. I've used them on everything from my kids to chickens and even horses. But they're great additions to your farm medical kit.

@tlkthunder6990 3 года назад

I love this channel so much. I've been thinking I should get lots of animals to take care of and I love animals so much but I'm allergic. Thank you for making me watch these animals and learn a lot about them. ❤️

@michaels.militaria 3 года назад

Love your channel, we also live on a homestead and are currently mourning a loss of one of our sliky hens Oak but other than that our flock of chickens are doing amazing the garden is flourishing and we hatched out 4 new bantam chicks :)

@isualum13 3 года назад

I think the puppy wanted to go for a walk.

@sherryb9355 3 года назад

That had to be so stressful for family and emus. Glad they are all safe and sound.

@Blackfox_Kitsune 3 года назад

they need bigger runs to lower the stress :/ the emu's at a family theme park i worked at they just kept escaping and hurting themselves every single time in the doing so. only thing that solved it was to put them in bigger paddocks. also they switch out for chain link fencing (anti deer fencing) because you can hook it to ticker more robust poles, it's also harder for them to kick it free and escape. hope this helps

@AsteriaLMoon 3 года назад

Another day at the hill farm!!

@ourlifeinthewoodsmn 3 года назад

Will you be adding bedding or wood chips to the aviary inside for the guineas? I'd think it'd be of comfort to the birds but also better for clean up ....

@Emu_Playz 3 года назад

What a journey bamboo had. Man the twins dislike each other 🤣. Hope peekaboo heals.

@fabriziocassetta9879 3 года назад

I'm soo happy bamboo got better with his neck 👌 and happy birthday again Uriah👍🥳

@jamesbrown3621 3 года назад

So glad that bamboo is okay, that was very scary but even though he was scared and afraid you ask did amazing job is thinking up away to get him so you could get him back in his area. I hate that the other one got hurt so bad by breaking through the gate. Those emu really do love you all allot. I look forward every week to your video. I try to save it to watch later in the day but I am so excited I can’t wait allot of times cause I can’t wait to see what you all have for us. It’s always such great videos and love how you all take time to make it exciting and plus a learning tool as well. You all are amazing family and love watching you from here in East Tennessee

@whitehouseonthehill 3 года назад

Thank you, we really appreciate it

@user-su2fw9oj6x 3 года назад

I’m a new subscriber and I LOVE emus, it’s so sad that bamboo escaped

@kgirl9337 3 года назад

Thank god he’s ok ❤️ I was about to cry when he said that bamboo just dropped

@dianapulido1807 3 года назад

I'm glad you got him back. Hope they don't panic like that again.

@bennystropicalswimmigwolf8691 3 года назад

we love You White House On The Hill And I Hope Bamboo Is Doing Great have a nice new week

@TheKingModz 3 года назад

Thankfully my emus have never escaped! Enjoyed the video and checking in on yours

@lillianperry6451 3 года назад

Glad it turned out as well as it did. That looked pretty scary.

@lisawelkner3340 3 года назад

I think Midwest storms are a bit scary too! I’m glad that you all love your animals so well. I can’t imagine how exhausted you must be, Jake. Up editing a video at 2AM? Thanks for keeping our favorite RU-vid channel rolling.

@maladylis08 2 года назад

Looks like you have some chicks that are frizzles. They are some of my favorite chickens. Great farm you have !

@akosirhapido7855 3 года назад

I love watching your videos sir..you inspire me to have my own little farm someday ..😇😇🙏🇵🇭🇹🇼

@jessicamermaid2438 3 года назад

I am so glad the Emus are okay! I adore Peek-a-boo and Cashew but I would be devastated if anything happened to Bamboo. I think everyone loves Bamboo. As a viewer, sometimes, people become emotionally invested in an animal they have never met. He is such a sweetie and it was so fun to watch him hatch and grow up over the years💗

@nicoleknight8867 3 года назад

Emus like other animals walk long distances. Imagine living in a tight space like that, I would also be frustrerad at my friends and try to escape. I love your videos and watch every video. I just wanted to say that they should really get some exercise or a bigger pasture to really help them live a good and healthy life.

@rachael9544 2 года назад

I agree with this comment! I'm from Australia and Emus migrate all over the country, long large distances. They also love to run, and can run superrr fast. Kind of sad seeing them in such a small area :/

@repurposedart9897 2 года назад

dont go to the zoo or sea world, its filled will animals in small environments.

@nicoleknight8867 2 года назад

@@repurposedart9897 yeah I've never liked those places. It's more exciting seeing animals in the wild ❤️🐃

@crimecrazycrittersonthefarm 3 года назад

So glad all is well. It’s scary when they get out.

@20greeneyes20 3 года назад

It's so hard to see any animal hurt. But it could have been so much worse. It's still made me teary. Animals do what animals do. I've had horses and they did the strangest things you would think possible at times. When they get scared they panic. I feel for you it's so much responsibility and you have to think of everything it's over whelming. 😘

@pamspray5254 3 года назад

Oh geez! I'm glad both of them were okay, if a little rough around the edges. It's always a scare when an animal makes a break for it. I wonder if lightning struck inside that half of the enclosure. That would have certainly spooked me! If not actually inside it, maybe one of the trees nearby. Hopefully what you did to fix the fence will hold tight for years to come. And I'm excited to see what might happen with those pheasant eggs. Lots of love from somewhere else in Missouri. Good luck out there!

@heatherpeck2227 3 года назад

You and your family work hard !

@lucecita007 3 года назад

Please give them more space. They are getting crazy in that tiny pen. Give them a bigger enclosure. Poor animals.

@cinnamongirl6717 2 года назад

Poor animals? This family goes Above & Beyond taking care of God's creations Running a farm & raising a young family ain't as easy as you think it is. Refrain from Nilly Willy comments. Words Hurt.

@Garcessy 3 года назад

Omg I am never able to comment bc of glitches but I love all you do and all the animals that you care for! I actually have my own farm and I’m trying to build up all of my different animals all because of you guys! Keep doing what you love!

@gertrudewest4535 3 года назад

I love Bamboo and the girls. Glad all is well.

@tanyajenkins919 3 года назад

Hope the Emus all get well fast sorry to hear they got injured again . Kinda like any other livestock stuff we can't predict just happens .

@knopie88 3 года назад

Isn't it time to find Peekaboo a new home. Maybe find her a home where she can also have a mate?

@kentuckykastin5565 3 года назад

I think he mentioned they’re getting another male emu for her

@nde-mt2yc 3 года назад

Time to give birds to someone who can actually care for them Properly...

@knopie88 3 года назад

@@kentuckykastin5565 That would be great. I feel sorry for her now.

@knopie88 3 года назад

@@nde-mt2yc No need to be so toxic. This family cares for their animals. Sure they make some mistakes but they are are on e larning curve and do anything possible to keep the animals safe and healthy

@nde-mt2yc 3 года назад

@@knopie88 I'm speaking out of frustration for the animals well being, thats not toxic, its realistic... in a learning curve things die...