Barriss Returns To A Jedi | Star Wars Tales of the Empire | Episode 5 | Disney+ 

So she gets a free pass because she finally had this epiphany even though she murdered all those people at the Jedi Temple and framed Ahsoka for it? Nah. The witch can burn along with like my last shred of patience with this series 😤😤😤

Nah she's still a bad person lmao

She also did it because she seen the flaws in Jedi, the problems with the Order. Kinda like a Legends Dooku, but with a redemption arc

She returns to the real Jedi way. Pacifist way, peacemaking way, healing way. That is the way of the Jedi. Not the one where Jedi are generals and leading their armies to the endless wars. She was still right about the Jedi that they only used violence and should not have been involved in the Clone Wars. Eventually she proved herself right - the Jedi lost their way, and she found it again by choosing the path of non-violence.

@@Mr-Sinister If Jedi were not involved in CW, Dooku and his droids would defeat the Republic too quickly, maybe even destroy it. Jedi not fighting in CW would make sense if Dooku was still a righteous idealist they remembered him once, who just wanted a better future for those sick of the Republic's corruption. But Sith Dooku was a cruel sociopath who laughed evilly, used assassins for dirty work, worked with despicable businessmen like Wat Tambor, employed monsters like General Grievous, Riff Tamson or Zygerrian Slavers, and wanted not a solution for his followers in fact, but a war to create a new empire from what's left of BOTH Republic and CIS. Even Clone Troopers pointed out that without Jedi Leadership, the Republic would lose the war.

@@maksymilianziele28 Without the Jedi Republic would lose the war - EXACTLY. The conflict would be resolved much quicker. What does it matter to the Jedi anyway, being neutral their only role would be ambassadors. Try to solve peacefully, not on the battlefield. The rest is not their problem. They should be like monks. They need to only defend the Jedi Order, Force-sensitive children and not be involved in warfare. Separatist worlds are not that bad, by the way, otherwise there wouldn't be people like Mina Bonteri who believed in their CIS democracy as well, and their people lived fine under Separatists (it would be the same under Republic, but this isn't Black and White). The Jedi Order could live outside the Republic in a neutral system somewhere, if the Republic chose to use them as weapon and they refused.

@@Mr-Sinister It wouldn't matter to Dooku and Sidious (people not persuaded by nice talk), one way or another, Jedi had to be dealt with in Sith's design (so as annoying to them people like Bonteri), with them as either soldiers or ambassadors or living peacefully in some neutral system. And all peaceful resolutions would be just dealt with like a case between Mina and Padme or even if not, it is just because on the long run it would help Sith's cause. Sorry, but like I said Dooku too much embraced evil (he even ordered a genocide on innocents not because of some war significance, but simply because Jedi were watching it) and had too much power in CIS (which in truth was tyrannical, something of which Separatist Senators were completely unaware of) just to let it all end peacefully. And I wouldn't consider him winning the war with the Republic, even if the war ended sooner, a sufferable solution, because making a victor out of someone who blames others for him killing innocents even if there was really no point in it other than satisfaction that his enemies are watching it, does not sound like a tolerable solution. So whatever path Jedi would take during the war, they were screwed from the start and them not fighting would just make them an easier target to be killed once CIS would be victorious and Republic defeated.

@@maksymilianziele28 Not really. If the Jedi weren't involved into the war, they could focus on their own Order, and more prepared for the Sith, but since they were involved in politics, they were manipulated into becoming war instruments, and there was no time for them to think, meditate, the Dark Side of the Force already clouded their vision. They would be free of that if only they were out of conflict, some place else. They could even see the Sith in their visions, given enough focus and time. But since they were part of politics, that was their weakness which Palpatine used to manipulate them into what he prepared for them. The thing is - they already shakened balance of the Force by choosing to intervene. It was their test they didn't pass, so the Force was rebalanced once again.

She would have forgiven her. She’d see that Barriss wasn’t all bad and maybe it would have motivated her to try and reached out to corrupted former Jedi who went to the dark side

@@darkarrow3683given that Barris mentions “old friend” and refers to the friend as a ‘She’ I assume it’s Ashoka she’s sending the family to. So contact was made

@@NarasimhaDiyasena That makes sense it could have been Ahsoka she was refering to.

​@@NarasimhaDiyasenaI personally hope that it was Ahsoka but it is equally likely to be the Jedi Padawan she saved in this clip.

​@commanderbacara225 it was Ahsoka. Barriss says "she'll understand what to do." And the padawan here is a male

Luke and Obi wan mains be like:

@@cowsgobroom9896me with Darth Maul while playing Heroes VS villains on Kashyyyk.

Bespin and Kashyyyk be like:

@@cowsgobroom9896no darth maul and Kylo ren

I’m not hearing Kylo screaming COWARDS

Yeah unfortunately Proset never realized the truth and died before that but Barriss is different as we knew already. I loved her redemption to I just wish she lived to do more

​@@darkarrow3683at the it shows us he's still alive but slice in the back and remember bariss is a healer

I'd say it's more accurate to say she found the path to redemption, but her full journey to redemption isn't over yet. There is still much to atone for

It’s really rare for fallen jedi to seek out the light and find redemption, I’m happy Barriss found both

This story is also a christian them that in real life no one is beyond redemption and grace

Pretty much

She seems to have reconciled with Ahsoka

Cause that let operation knightfall

​@@Zekrom997 not yet

​@Killmonger_9 she refers the family to Ahsoka and she's aged since then

I'm just happy to finally know that she finally came to her senses in and tried to seek redemption for her mistakes. At last I know her fate

I agree, I’m happy she spent the next 10+ years redeeming herself as a healer and a guide to a better life (civilian and inquisitor alike)

Yeah it makes sense because she didn’t want to become evil, she just wanted to stop what she believed was evil. Now she realizes that the Empire is no better than

Yeah it makes sense because she didn’t want to become evil, she just wanted to stop what she believed was evil. Now she realizes that the Empire is no better

She's an idiot. Even a guardian of the whills could have told her the dark side is not the way. I wish vader just snapped her neck

@@teekay1122 It's that in the first episode in Static Shock when Virgil joined a group of friends who turned out to be gang bangers and when given a gun, Virgil realized what he was in for and so tried to get away. Thankfully, it's also what led to him becoming Static.

IMO they should've stretched it out over another episode or two. They kinda glossed over the whole Inquisitor thing - Barriss literally broke her friend's neck last episode just to survive, so a little more trying and failing to embrace the Dark Side before ultimately drawing the line later on could've worked better.

Yeah right, she betrayed and framed Ahsoka, the one friend she truly had in the Jedi Order 😑

​@@taraungoogle8482Vader did so much worse, and he's forgiven

​@@MrThecrazyzombie Thing is, Vader didn't just save Luke and kill the Emperor,, but he sacrificed his life for his son. He actually loved his son, and gave his life to save him. Besides that, he was forgiven by Luke, Obiwan and the others, not the rest of the galaxy. Barriss has a long road ahead of her.

@@fornax5798the only person really affected by the bombing was ahsoka. Vader affected EVERYONE. The Jedi, the inquisitors, the rebels, etc. bariss is much easier to forgive than anakin ever will be. Doesn’t matter if he made an exception for his son

Actually yes she became a true Jedi not the dogmatic jedi order gladd order 66 took care of them

If Bariss ended up killing Lyn, he might have because she would be considered a threat. Just like Cere

The Undertaker?

The Sith consider the inquisitors as disposable

Vader legit doesn't care about inquisitors. In fact, he has been shown hating them quite recurrently. He considers them an obstacle. The exception, of course, being the Grand Inquisitor who was able to stand his ground against Vader. For the dark lord, they are no better than clowns (and he's right, so far the only competent inquisitors we have seen are GI and the Second Sister) and he does not consider them a threat. Even killing an inquisitor does not make him target you (See Cal, who killed the Ninth Sister and Vader did not go after him immeditaly, instead focusing on Cere as she was getting a little bit too strong despite not having killed any inquisitor). So Barris would have been considered just a minor nuisance for Vader.

He probably tried. Remember that in the final episode Lyn states that the empire had been trying to find her for years.

Agenda.

They’re non-binary. And it really pisses off the man babies

This is a genuine question but why would they call him they? Like how would they know that about him? I’m still confused about this

@@maryschettler5883 the kid prob talked to them when they were chilling in the village

It’s non-binary. It makes no sense. But the second someone has an opinion about it, you’re labeled a bigot or a hater🙄

Cringe

@@kimduckun3703wow people can’t even be happy about something anymore. Sad asf😂

Loved the Professor X quote.

Who was left to hold her accountable, Ahsoka? No, Bariss realized her mistakes and spent the rest of her life helping people, that's enough.

@@InsanoRider777 Barriss could have held herself accountable and show some guilt of her past, even proof that she remembered her past. Even the fourth sister would’ve known what Bariss had done and could have asked why she deserves a better life. Even if someone else was framed as the jedi to protect the actual jedi, that would be a parallel to what Barriss did. In a way, that would be the universe holding her accountable.

She did show guilt and expressed remorse when talking to the family

@@theunknownuser9609 She did, but I have two reasons I personally didn’t connect with the scene. Firstly, Barriss was talking in very broad terms about healing, broad enough that what she said could be said by numerous characters. Secondly, this is after a massive time jump and significant offscreen development. She doesn’t grapple with these issues during the story. Sure, she has offscreen, but we don’t know what that looked like. It feels like big missed potential to explore her psyche, which is what I think makes characters interesting.

Bruh. People do be saying Anakin is redeemed after Return of the Jedi yet the crimes he has committed are absolutely unforgivable. Bariss is a petty criminal in comparison

She was never bad, she just defended what she considered was right with certainly questionable methods. Still, she wanted the best for the galaxy and its people and once she saw how the Empire operated, her disgust was relatable.

@@antilope5267 Exactly and she wasn’t even someone that was fully turned to the dark side or had any hatred

I think she did, and that was who Barriss sent the child to

​@@alixvaloveCould also be the dude she saved earlier.

​@@alixvalove That's exactly what I thought when I watched this scene in question!!!!

@@ATruckCampbell Barriss and 4th Sister used they/them pronouns when talking about the Jedi. When talking about her old friend, Bariss said "SHE'll know what to do"

⁠@@UTU1Owell I think Bariss says “she” when she refers to the friend

Yes you can also refer to a singular person as they without it being a gender thing, welcome to real life.

@@Apac12 No, you can't. Instead of using "they/them". Barriss should've just used the singular neutral, which in this case, would've been Jedi. "We could've helped the Jedi." is the correct sentence. The incorrect and bizarre sentence spoken in the show could've been so easily avoided. It's like a 4th grader wrote it and didn't proof read it.

I believe they made the Jedi nonbinary. Star Wars didn’t need to do that

@@redblanket4554 They has been used as a singular pronoun for literal centuries, even when someone's gender is known, it's okay lol

Hmmm

it seems like the dark side doesn't corrupt people anymore, which makes the whole story more hillarious. I mean i can bend my suspension of disbelieve about some antiwar jedi bombing the jedi temple and framing her best friend, if she got corrupted by the dark side, but if that corruption can be easily dealt with, the question arises, why she would do something so dumb and out of character? it just doesn't make sense anymore. Why did Count Doku kill his friend Syfu Dias, wasn't Syfu able to talk him out of it, because it seems super easy to do it, when even some randos can get it done? Also withstanding the seduction of the dark side seems pretty easy, no real effort required to do that, this makes all the people who did fall, rather pathetic than tragic. i mean damn Anakin, sure you got visions about your wife dying, but becoming a sith lord, slaughtering younglings, seems a bit like you didn't care in the first place. Kinda destroys the whole point of the dark side, maybe the darkside isn't really the problem, maybe all those people were assholes to begin with?

Eh, I do the same

@@BlueLeprechaun15 It would be your funeral. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Well maybe if the Empire didn’t make “reasonable arguments” for people to leave, they would’ve prosper in time

@@chrislaurent1137 Fair point.

So, would it be better if she stayed and died by Vader's hand? The Inquisitors all were doomed, no matter did they join willingly or were made to. They're still Jedi, not sith. Emperor never planned for them to be alive. In fact he wanted to be the only Force user alive in the galaxy.

Wha? she just pushed a lady off a cliff....

1 Jedi

@@Grim2006 they always seem to refer to multiple even when asking the villagers. A master and Padawan perhaps. Going to wait for people to do a frame by frame analysis.

@@danielbalderrama4137The Jedi was nonbinary so they referred to them as such. Lots of words have multiple meanings, so it’s the context which gives them their concrete definition.

@artloverivy well in this episode. They used the words "Are" and "there". Also as stated in the episode, Barris wasn't even able to confirm there was a jedi on the planet based on the severly limited intelligence. Also Jedi weren't non-binary, it wasn't until the clone wars did they take massive steps into republic politics. If you look at all the character encyclopedia books. Very few characters in the star wars universe even come close to non binary (not counting droids). The Acoloyte series actually might be the first series in star wars to introduce a formal non-binary character.

@@danielbalderrama4137This Jedi is nonbinary. Also we don’t know all the Jedi from the clone wars era

My guess is yes!

It’s confirmed by creators that they are in fact non-binary. And people are of course throwing a tantrum over pronouns

​@@rowanburghart5321your guess? You're out here defending it on every comment. It ain't no guess, stop being ignorant

She never used the Dark Side. Using the Dark Side makes one’s eyes red and yellow. Bariss’ eyes are consistently blue.

I think it depends on what their orders are. In Rebels, they kinda tried to kill Ezra and Kanan, as well as do stuff like get info for the Empire and find Force sensitive kids. Then in like Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor, they were more or less there to kill Cal + any other Jedi. So it seems like their job is mainly to kill/find Jedi, but also does stuff like finding Force sensitive children (which itd easier to indoctrinate kids than full grown Jedi on the run tbh).

It was still a totalitarian regime that oppressed its citizens, was racists towards non/humans, and committed genocide on entire planets.

Inquisitors don't actually care about that ideals. They're rats jumping from a sinking ship, or tortured into behaving how their captors wish them to. Or both..

@GreaterGrievobeast55 yeah it's just lazy writing. They were Jedi few weeks before. From childhood. They knew nothing else and suddenly I have to believe that they became cold blooded killers in matters of days just because of torture? Obey superiors? Yes. Slaughter innocent without reason? No. I won't believe that

Inquisitors act due to their fear. That makes them quite desperate, and most are able to do horrible things out of desperation. Because if they fail, Vader will torture them. Because if they prove their use came to an end, they also see their lives end. They are cornered, and even the Grand Inquisitor was trapped in this cage, shown when he decided to commit suicide instead of allowing Kanan to save him because he knew the consequences would be worse than death. Imagine being tied to this system in which you have to kill, destroy, burn and all in order to stay alive.

It makes no sense. She refused to be Republics Police and soldier as a Jedi and you believe she would choose to be even more radical Empire's Police and stick with it?

I see what you’re saying, but it wouldn’t match with Bariss’s ideals. She believed the Jedi were falling apart, and she thought that it could be better. She realized that the Empire is no better than the Jedi, so that’s why she left

​@@piotrbuczulinski9369 She did a terrorist bombing, killed hundreds of innocent people, and framed her best friend. She's radical herself tbh. Perfect for the empire.

​@@piotrbuczulinski9369 After seeing nearly everyone who turns to the dark side eventually turning back, you get starved and start wanting someone who actually sticks with it. I mean, Vader, BattleFront 2 whatsherface, Rogue One whatsherface, Finn, Reva, Ren, your damm commanding officer whatshisface in Squadrons. Thank goodness the rest of Squadron wasn't a repeat of Battlefront. Bariss might be justifiable, but it's been overdone. Yeah I get it, light side always win, whoopy whoop, at least give us some characters who actually turn and sticks with it. I don't know why I bother, I'll just go play SWTOR again.

@@Generic877 because if you think about it... you need to be psychopath to stick with the dark side. Sometimes people realize that slaughter of the innocent is not necessary to achieve something

That was me too and I had to watch that scene in different languages and go back to English to realize these donkeys have put this whole they/them nonsense in it.

barriss said it bout herself cuz she returned to the light side

@@r3in799 they're still alive, we need to get them to the ship. it really sounds not like she is refering to herself in this i dont get it.

My guess is the Jedi may be non binary :)

@@rowanburghart5321 wat is een non binary?

Barriss was never inquisitor material and her speech in tcw is proof of that. The empire and inquisitors are exactly what she feared the Jedi would become. She goes back to the Jedi in the sense that she becomes what the Jedi should be, peace keepers not soldiers

I see what you are saying, but if it went the dark way, she kills a Jedi or two, one escapes her and Vader kills her for failing, big whoop. Here, she realizes her mistakes, does everything she can to atone for them by following the original Jedi way of healing, pacifism, and helping people, including the woman trying to kill her and saving her too. It may not be dark, but it is a rewarding, infinitely more meaningful ending, people like sweet and fitting endings, so that is what people got.

Why didn't you have this attitude when tales of the Jedi had one of its protagonists fall to the dark side? Also Morgan didn't turn to the light.

Morgan fell to the dark, hard

​@@jonsmith2832 How did you know he didn't keep that same energy? Have you been stalking or something

@@radias2589 educated guess

Star Wars is more than Vader

Not everything needs to be about Vader

@@Cameron19 bro i mean it could have included the vader momments from comics and the other half be about barris

But how else we let you see how progressive and woke we are?! (c) Disney

@@yurishakalov6213I understand both of your logics. But that was actually correct.

It's okay to refer to someone as 'them', it's not a big deal lol

@@rowanburghart5321 reminds me of that video about police chasing a criminal: "Was it male or female?!" - "Neither, they/them!"

@@yurishakalov6213 I could see how that could be confusing, but still, not super relevant lol

Season 5. She also doesn’t become a Jedi in the sense of the clone wars Jedi. She is what she believes the Jedi should be, peace keepers, not soldiers. She tries to make amends for what she’s done by becoming a healer and helping victims of the empire and force sensitive children. She has been masterfully written in this series

Morgan didn’t redeem herself and the main focus of the series is the empire and it’s affect on different characters. One character redeeming herself doesn’t change that

What are you referring to specifically?

@@rowanburghart5321betraying the empire I imagine e

@@jknetwork6211in that case barris shouldn't have joined in the first place

So I guess Vader did either?

It can still be used in a singular form :)

I guess even the Lynn lady that just massacred a bunch of villagers would not be so evil as to assume the jedi's gender 🙃

@@olofman300People in Star Wars have never shown an inability to understand pronouns, so yeah even the worst people in that world still grasp basic concepts.

@@artloverivy can you give an example of when they/them has been used in place of a he and she?

@@olofman300 In Star Wars? Often times droids will be referred to with a variety of pronouns since they’re all sexless and only capable of having genders. I’ve seen droids referred to as he, she, and they. Some individuals of the ancient Zeffo species are also referred to with they/them pronouns.