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One evening, Barrow hears a crash coming from Andy’s room and discovers him upset, nursing a broken lamp. Andy has previously made efforts to keep Barrow at arm's length, but it seems Barrow does still care for him and correctly guesses that Andy is, in fact, illiterate. Barrow kindly offers to help him learn how to read in secret.
From Series 6 Episode 5:Andy confesses to Thomas that he is illiterate, and accepts Barrow's offer to educate him in secret. Edith hires a female editor and also develops a romance with Bertie Pelham. Violet persuades the Minister of Health, Neville Chamberlain to attend dinner at Downton. Robert suddenly coughs up blood at the table, due to his ulcer busting and is rushed to the hospital immediately.
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@slysloth96 3 года назад

What's so sad about this scene was that it was in the middle of Thomas's worst mental decline. He was railroading so fast to his suicide attempt at this point. Helping Andy gave him something to focus on, to live for in a sense. But when Andy took up the schoolmaster's offer (rightly-the man was trained to help), it took away the last of Thomas's will to live.

@debbiemcpherson2426 2 года назад

I hadn't considered the schoolmaster contributing to Thomas's suicide attempt but you might be right.

@nkg___5172 3 года назад

When Thomas said “I’ve known worse” it was another reminder that he has probably had one of the worst pasts of anyone at downton

@sarasolomon4812 3 года назад

One thing that strikes me, is that Thomas desperately wanted friends. Everyone thought he was predatory and looking for a love interest, but it's clear all the way through the recent movie that he also wants to be treated like a normal guy by the men around him. But they all fear and shun him. When he meets Ellis (spoiler alert) he is thrilled to find a man he can be friends with, just another "bloke" he doesn't have to hid or pretend with.

@PichuElric 2 года назад

The thing with Ellis was really nice 😭 Thomas truly looked like he was just happy to have a friend and might not have even known Ellis swung that way, because he looked genuinely surprised when he put his finger on his mouth, eyes all wide

@lonelyratgirl3688 4 года назад

I'm glad Andy finally realized Thomas only wanted to help him and be friends with him, and stopped making his opinion of Thomas based on what the others told him. Everyone knew what happened with Jimmy was O'Brien's fault, yet they were all so eager to blame Thomas of trying the same thing with Andy... It was awful and uncalled for, but it's nice Andy saw past that eventually.

@holohulolo 4 года назад

Can't blame them, Thomas was untrustworthy to begun with. He had always been scheming with o'brien. Doing it out of jealousy and ambitious desire is one thing, what made him so untrustworth was bates, was someone who showed him compassion, even after he knew what thomas did to him, he choose not to take revenge or retaliate in any way. Thomas knew that and still tried to sabotage bates all the same. The only person who ever retaliated was o'brien because they were the same, thomas would've done the aame to o'brien if he could. People don't trust him, and rightfully so. He's whole arc of finally feeling starting to repent was only apparent to the viewers, the story he told and what he did to change himself. It was only until he tried to kill himself that some of them knew that he was really trying to change.

@holohulolo 4 года назад

If anything, I think Amdy was smart enough to listen to the other people. Look at o'brien's nephew, she probably told him a bit about thomas but he chose to trust him and got sabotaged, that's when o'brien took action.

@amberanime 2 года назад

@@holohulolo I'd agree with you if people where purely warning him for Thomas his scheming. However rather then warning him about Thomas his scheming everyone seemed more concerned Thomas was trying to seduce him when Thomas was doing no such thing. The homophobia comes trough strong in this. Which I get it, time period. And for that time period people in that house are very tolerating all things considerd. But that fact people where protecting Andy from Thomas his gay ness, rather then his scheming, is what always rubbed me the wrong way. Thomas has been a brat many times. And Your right to warn people about that. But when you see Thomas trying to do better and actualy being nice to somebody new, dont go out of your way to sabotage that either.

@marionarda2790 2 года назад

Only Mrs Patmore and Carson warned Andy . The Bates were honest . Carson thinks Barrow deserves to die so no wonder but I wonder why Mrs Patmore did not react when she realized Andy was only speaking to Barrow because he was learning how to reaf

@marionarda2790 2 года назад

@@holohulolo jimmy sabotaged poor Alfred . O brien didn t do anything against him . And Thomas had the ultimate weapon against her . And still did n t ruin her even after she ruined him . And the Grantham cared way more about their unborn baby than who he kissed

@nazgullord3198 4 года назад

There are no words to describe how much I freakin' love Barrow. There are no bounds to his kindness and loyalty, when he chooses to show them that is.

@pabloskibuiadventures8587 2 года назад

"there are no bounds to his kindness and loyalty, when he chooses to show them, that is" I totally can relate to this statement

@echa9446 2 года назад

i love him too 😭❤️ our baby barrow

@mamiedubingo 4 года назад

Barrow was better and better... I'm really proud of him

@ellie91059 4 года назад

Thomas is definitely the best character on Downton, his character arch and development was well thought out and moving. Thomas Barrow stopped me feeling ashamed about being gay

@dogbsas 4 года назад

I only watched the first 2 seasons of DA. English is not my first language so I can miss some parts of the show but....At that point Thomas was just nasty. Could you kindly explain to me how his character has developed during the seasons? Thank you :)

@jeanseme7626 4 года назад

Mon Mi then watch the rest of the series and the movie too

@ellie91059 4 года назад

Mon Mi He became kind, caring and helpful towards the other characters

@GoldenRose116 4 года назад

@@dogbsas He finally started liking/accepting himself... and found people who genuinely like him despite his sexuality.

@antinomian4067 4 года назад

good to know i wasnt the only person who used downton to cope w gay panic lmao

@kimsmith1746 3 года назад

I was upset about Carson accusing Barrow of inappropriate behavior with Andy, although Andy never spoke with Carson about it. If Carson had his suspicions, he should have questioned Andy first.

@marionarda2790 2 года назад

I was not upset at Carson accusing him . It was logical . Carson has a very low opinion of him( rightfully so to a degree) and is indeed cautious after the jimmy incident . So him asking Thomas for explaination is fair . Unkind but fair . What s clearly unfair is that carson didn t want the truth , didn t believe Thomas, didn t ask andy . Didn t even ask Mrs Patmore later after she learned the real reason .He just wanted to demean and insult the guy .

@GoldenRose116 4 года назад

"I have known worse"It such a sad line... his whole life people has treated him horrible because he was different. And when he find someone to trust/like.. they either die (Sybil and Edward), are forced to leave (Jimmy) or betray him (O'Brien) Its no wonder he was so bitter at the start of the show..

@tatianaartemova3636 2 года назад

@Modox well he tried to commit suicide but others saved him

@leahhart3585 10 месяцев назад

O’Brien was so heartless.

@Maaarrina 4 года назад

Was rooting for barrow in later seasons. Mean and cunning as he was it showed that all humans have bad and good sides, it’s what you choose to be that matters.

@debbiemcpherson2426 3 года назад

I love watching Thomas save people. He helped Andy learn to read and he saved Jimmy from debt at that casiono Miss Decker took him to.

@TheSpinDoctor 3 года назад

That was Andy both times - Jimmy was gone by then. Think he saved Jimmy from a fight at a fair though and took a hell of a beating in the process.

@pandakatiefominz 2 года назад

He literally saved Edith's life too

@debbiemcpherson2426 2 года назад

@@TheSpinDoctor I think you're right. Denker was so much worse than Spratt. When Spratt sabotaged Moseley it was because he thought his own job was in jeopardy. But Denker took advantage of an innocent man just to get free drinks.

@12classics39 Год назад

He also saved the kids from not only that abusive nanny, but also a boring childhood; nobody else in the house - besides maybe Tom - was willing to play with Sybbie and George because they all were too formal to indulge their basic needs to just BE children for a while.

@andrewbrendan1579 4 года назад

I had a friend years back who didn't know it at first but eventually figured out that her father was unable to read. The library in my town has had a program to teach adults how to read. Andy's problem is still with us even today. Reading, writing and books are among the greatest blessings of my life. I can't imagine being illiterate and cut off from so much, how terrible it must be. If there was an Andy in my life I would be more than happy to help out. P.S.---When elementary school in the 1960's I learned phonics and that was possibly the best thing I ever learned in school; being able to figure out words allowed me to gain much education just on my own.

@TheWiseMagpie1 3 года назад

It is so sad, how many people nowadays still can not read and write. Either don't have education, or just need a bit more help.. So many are held back from living a normal life.

@aronspidle138 3 года назад

For me it is math and numbers. No matter how hard I have tried, (and still try) it just didn't click, beyond the most basic level. And even that is a challenge. Or, I would finally, *finally* understand something, only for the knowledge to flee by the next day, leaving in its wake the remembrance of having once understood. Even more frustrating. About ten years ago an instructor with a course that I was taking diagnosed Dyscalculia.

@connellwalker7873 4 года назад

What a lives-altering scene! Complexity, compassion given and received to open their hearts wider. Great acting and writing.

@denisiyaden1231 4 года назад

It's such a horrible thing for Andy. Just imagine that you're a new worker and everyone tries to warn you about some "bad&gay" bloke. So you act normal, but not really good around him, and you just not let him be your friend. Then he hepls you with you problem, but you're still not as close friends as you could be, because you don't feel like it. Then you just forget about him and not much later you find him in the bathtub full of his own blood. Andy is a new guy there, he didn't know Thomas for as long as the others, so he can't really have the only opinion about this man. And it must be so bloody terrifying, when the man who you didn't pay attention, but he acted well towards you, tries to kill himself. Andy definetely feels bad about himself and thinks that it was his fault. Just so sorry for both of them, but I'm glad that they found their way to be friends

@marionarda2790 2 года назад

Out of everyone I dont think Andy is to blame . Sadly he was probably the only one to feel any guilt

@ABirdOnTheMoon 4 года назад

Thomas is my favourite character in this show. I was so pissed by him in the first seasons as he was ill speaking here and there but knowing his background and seeing him suffering broke my heart and it gave a clear understanding to why he was behaving that way. It hurts me to know that he chose that because he never was shown kindness by anyone other than Sybil ...

@elizabethwakefield8894 2 года назад

Thomas was always painted so black in the beginning. I'm so glad the writers rounded out his character, and showed the soft, caring side of him. He became one of my favorite characters ❤️

@marionarda2790 2 года назад

Honestly it was quite clear from season 1-3 he was not as evil as he sometimes pretended to . Remember what he said when Sybill died? That they shouldn t cry for her as she would not know if they died . Such vitriol . Such unkindness .While bawling his eyes out

@-greentoad 4 месяца назад

One writer actually. Julian Fellowes wrote the entire series and both movies completely himself. He was brilliant!!

@jodieg6318 3 года назад

As strange a comparison as it maybe, Thomas' character and arch reminds me of Nobby Nobbs from Discworld: "only bad in the same way that a weasel is evil. ... He may have a criminal mind but he doesn't have a criminal soul."

@fancybrooks3156 4 года назад

That was very, very nice of Barrow. Seems he had mellowed a bit from his previous deceitful, nasty self.

@12classics39 Год назад

This was always his true self. Society and the prejudiced people in his life forced him to put cruel, nasty “armor” on to push people far away from him and protect himself from getting even more hurt than he already was.

@dramaticScar Год назад

For a person that calls himself "stupid" he was able to understand that Thomas was a human being first, and "something foul" second (I'm quoting from the show, I do not see it that way at all), much quicker than some of the more educated characters like Mr.Carson...

@Apollo_Blaze 2 года назад

I love both of them in this scene...I really love Barrow. That character has helped many gay people...Rob plays him beautifully.

@lancechinnian4043 2 года назад

Thomas definitely had his moments ❤️

@hannahwonderland6868 2 года назад

I luved Thomas throughout. Yes he is the Best person in downtown abbey and also Edith.

@reign8428 4 года назад

It may break my heart, but are you possibly able to upload all the scenes from season 6 that show Thomas’ mental decline? For science.

@abbynormal4740 5 месяцев назад

O'Brien leaving Downton was arguably the best thing for Thomas's character arc. She was a terribly toxic influence.

@babsgrayson8432 2 года назад

Andy: What up, my name is Andy. I'm 19 and I never fucking learnt how to read.

@caoimhebrowne466 4 года назад

Thomas in series 6 was the best❤️

@garretthildebrandt428 26 дней назад

It's actually wild to me that there was a time when young adults couldn't read & write. It's such a common skill these days that we readily take it for granted. I wonder what the next skill of that variety will be?

@eliniatollea 3 года назад

Did he slide at 0:46? Smooth move, Thomas.

@h.88 2 года назад

I love Barrow so much

@chocsn414 3 года назад

I genuinely didn’t know he couldn’t read till he said so! I didn’t spot any of the signs!

@chasemergui2108 Год назад

ANDY IS THE BEST CHARACTER! I LOVE HIM!

@frightdavid1863 2 года назад

That is exactly how i feel about calculus 💔

@AC_RDR2_Q 2 года назад

see, i love thomas. in those times it was extremely hard for him but he’s got such a good heart and he can be a bit bitter but i’m glad that the people around him started to slowly realise that gay people weren’t bad, because thomas was such a nice lad and he proves that just because he’s gay doesn’t mean he’s gonna have a crush on every guy or be a bad person, i’m gay and Thomas changes so much in a good way, once he starts to become more accepting of himself and in the film he finally meets someone like him, i’m so happy for him. i really wish there was another film

@svclana4ever 2 года назад

There's gonna be another film in March, in case you didn't know ;)

@AC_RDR2_Q 2 года назад

@@svclana4ever OMG WHAT YESS but i heard Richard won’t be in it and i’m annoyed because he can never be happy can he

@svclana4ever 2 года назад

@@AC_RDR2_Q I heard the same but like whyyy, him and Thomas were the part I was most excited about :( I hope they're still in touch though and Richard gets mentioned in a good way... And I also hope that Thomas will have a lot of screentime but judging by the trailer I'm afraid he won't...

@AC_RDR2_Q 2 года назад

@@svclana4ever oh god i hope he gets more screen time he hardly got any in the movie, or at least he didn’t get any happiness

@marcosgarcia2643 4 года назад

Thomas was interested in offer one favour in exchange of other one, possibly. Easy! He is not a nice guy, on the other hand, he plays a game.

@francescapaladini5763 3 года назад

He felt useless and lonely, the work was less and less, people was talking him less and less, so he needed to something new to do and someone new to talk