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I've been saying this for YEARS. Bass don't give a shit about your line, or anything else attached to it. They see your lure, and if they feel like eating it they'll eat it. Take a good look at a A-Rig. All that wire and shit. Nope. Line doesn't matter to fish.
Finally someone speaks the truth. I’ve always said the bass don’t care about the line because if they did then they would also care about the 5/0 EWG hook and 1/2oz pegged weight 😆
I am fairly sure you are correct. Due to circumstance and bringing the wrong set ups I had to adapt last year on a fishing trip with my friend. We were shore fishing a weedy lake. So I cut off what I had intended on using and tied on a weightless 6 inch senko. On 40 pound braid, White in color. Straight braid. The water is very clear there. I caught my biggest bass of the year. Over 5 pounds and here in Ohio that is a pretty decent bass. At least for me. I'm sure seeing the line might spook them a little sometimes but I don't think it happens nearly as often as we might think. I started using straight braid more often after that. I do use braid to leader but if the water is tinted some I try straight braid first.
as weird as it sounds, I have always used 20-30lb spider wire braid in stealth. Never have a problem and i never lose lures. Its always been my preference. The lake I wish has snags and rocks everywhere, just works for me. For my budget, never losing lures makes everything worth it, and I cant say I have noticed any problems.
Spot on Brian same with getting crazy with the tag end trimming lol if they didn't see the hook or the 25 foot of line then tag end length is not a problem make it so it doesn't slip and compromise the knot. .
I pretty much only choose my line based on what my setup is rated for and I usually shoot the gap, for example my 7'3" medium heavy casting setup gives you a guideline of 10-20lb test, so I use 14 lb test fluorocarbon because It sits nicely between those two, doesn't hinder my casting distance, and has yet to fail me for its intended use. on my 6'10" medium-light spinning setup I use 10 lb test because it's rated for 4-12 lb test, and 10 has worked out plenty well for all my applications there so far. that probably has a lot to do with the fact that the lures i'm using on those given setups work well with those line sizes, but I just try not to overcomplicate things, really.
Lol and I was just at BP trying to decide what to respool my reels with. I've used invisiline braid 20 lb and 12lb fluro...but the action and which rod and bait is truly interesting. Always appreciate it bro.
Great information B’lat. What do you like to use when throwing a floating worm/Wacky worm? I see a lot of pro’s using a pink floral carbon ? I think? But It’s not something I see in many tackle shops.
When I fish for trout, then fish seeing the line matters more, but even then, the same points you made apply--what line you're using for what lure and for what purpose are key. Very well said!
I agree with the title. I fish bass and ended up at a trout lake with family and I caught the most trout using 20 lb braid.. And if trout can spot a little fly in the water I know they're seeing my line but it didn't matter to them obviously.
I agree for the most part, but if your dropshoting with braid they will see it. I've watched bass come up to my dropshot worm when I was fishing it on braid and it turned away. But when it was on fluro it committed.
I think it’s funny how people argue about mono vs fluoro when their suspending twitchbait has 3 trebles hanging off it’s belly but they don’t want the bass to examine the line.. I’ve never seen a baitfish carrying treble hooks. Thanks Blat.
Awesome video, I’m a very advanced saltwater fisherman, and just recently moved into a community with some large lakes in it, so I’m now trying the freshwater thing, the lakes have some variety of species, it has tons of bass, clown knife fish, and also snook, so I was trying to keep the leader light, but if I hook a decent snook there gill plate will cut you off, so I was wondering if it was ok to throw 20 to 25lb leader, just didn’t know if bass would shy away, thanks for the great explanation on line types for the sweet water.
I 100% agree with you B-Lat! If you don’t think they don’t see the hook the line the weight then they are are terribly misunderstood. Line size should only be considered for bait presentation purposes! I use 15-17lb fluorocarbon on most of my setups, I adjust depending what I’m fishing around for abrasive purposes! My crank bait setups both deep, shallow, and squarebills, are all 12lb fluorocarbon because it makes it easier to cast distance wise, and it allows the crankbaits to achieve the best diving depth on longer cast. I use braid to Fluoro leader on my spinning setup. But line size visibility is not a thing. Great video again B! Keep me coming!
I agree to a point. If you’re drop shotting here in Michigan and the water in certain places here has 40’ clarity it matters On moving baits it doesn’t. If it did why would they hit a A rig?
Line size is important in clear water, especially cold clear water. Dropping your line size and hook gives your bait more action and presents the bait more naturally. It makes the biggest difference on how many fish and big fish you catch. Just like longer casts help. B-Lad what kind of blade is on your chatter bait? Very interesting..
Good info man. As a new guy learning to fish this is something i hear a lot. That fish see the line. I always thought "they can see the line but not the hook or the fact theyre chasing a metal spoon?".
My tackle are mostly from around 1990.... lines were different back then so were the spools... my spools are designed to hold up to .45mm on some reels.... but that is only something like 15lbs in dinosaur days... Luckily I have a box full of old line
For me it depends on what I'm throwing and the technique. If it's a spinning reel it's always braid to mono or fluorocarbon. On a side note where can I buy those bulk spools of line?
Bass fishing is the best my favourite is striped bass but bass in general are just a crazy fish too catch the way they strike is super exciting I do my own RU-vid as well except I am only 13 my goal is too engage our next generation into fishing 🎣 but your videos are better then mine your editing is just next level awesome
It may not matter as much in stained water, but if your fishing a clear lake you definitely want a lighter clear fluorocarbon line. There's studies that say red and chartreuse lines are almost as invisible if not the same as clear fluoro in deeper stained water. Especially chartreuse because when that fish looks up at that illuminated green water the chartreuse line will blend in almost completely. One of the few scenarios where something is less visible with more light present, there's a lot of science that goes into choosing lb test and line color. But for when the sun goes down in stained water that Red Cajun line is really good.
In Europe in international team events a lot of anglers could not believe that the English team particularly anglers like Will Raison and Steve Gardener fished with line diameters of 0.18 and 0.20 mm when most other teams were using 0.10 and 0.12 mm. They were fishing for big barbel, carp and bream in flowing water so Will & Steve would often say to me that they would rather not hook a fish than hook it and lose it because the line was too thin! They had the confidence to know that fish will bite when using thicker line and it will give you the best chance of landing that fish.
Brian how do you keep up with the line size and age of line on each rod. I know im getting old and forgetful but for the life of me i cant tell the diff between 12 and 14 lb. I usually dont restring until i break off at the reel on a cast which is usually 10 dollars too late.
I have compared same bait with different sizes of same line and trout fishing for me it makes a huge difference but bass and trout are 2 different fish.
my buddy and I both fish wacky rigs ALOT i always use 8 or 12lb fluro, he use to use a 15lb braid. It stood out like a sore thumb in our clear lakes. I ALWAYS caught way more. he finally switched to 10lb fluro now he tears em up too. and if you cast far past a fish and you're cranking your lure back past that fish, that bass is gonna see your line way before it sees your lure, and i believe that can turn them off before they ever see your lure.
Size of line affects action. Actions dictates bites. It also dictates where it runs in the water column. Smaller line in cranks will let the crank run deeper. It will make it more efficient to keep your spinners or chatters in the water depth that you wants
Im learning that when i use 15lb flouro i get good topwater walking motion and definitely further casts, but i also get more lashes. Ive only used 30 lb braid so far. My flipping has been trash from the bank.
ditto to upstate...fluoro sinks and impedes the 'walking' motion. On walking topwaters I have always used 20lb. Big Game because it is cheap and abrasion resistant. I'm fishing wood for smallies and they love to burrow and I have to dig them out. Good luck and you'll never stop learning
Line size affects the action and depth of lures. And there are times that fish are line shy, IDK about bass but saltwater fish like snapper definitely don't bite as much when the line is thick.
