3 Baits You should NEVER USE BRAIDED FISHING LINE WITH 

The best crankbait fisherman ever, David Fritts, uses braid on crankbaits. David has designed a lot of crankbaits we use.

"Little Daryl 363 " had me dying 🤣🤣. Love your stuff brother, keep up the awesome content. Tight lines!

I agree with you 100% on braid with crankbaits but I think it’s interesting that David Fritts uses braid exclusively when he fished crankbaits now.

100% agree. Straight Braided line can be very useful in specific situations. I often use mono or Floro leaders and achieve a good compromise.

I am in a similar boat with not having a ton of set ups. So I run braid to whatever type of leader line fits the situation I need. Works great. I do tend to run longer leader lines on bait caster moving style baits.

you and Christian greico absolutely turned me on to diamond braid at the straight up fishing seminar. by far the smoothest and toughest braid I've used. I put on suffix 832 the day before I went to the seminar and put the braid from the goody bag on another combo of the same set up and the difference is insane. it's like silk vs burlap to the touch the casting distance is easily 25% further and it HOLDS UP.

Little Darryl here. Actually braid is the best application for any bait. Especially a spoon. Lol. Dude you crack me up. Great info. Bet I'm into the only one thinking I need to change my setups. 😂

Great video! I’ll use the advice this weekend when I go out

I tend to run braid to flouro on all my combos. I’ve done them every way and would have nothing but problems with straight flouro so I found braid to leader seems to work best for me personally. I stopped running straight braid for the most part though because it’s just too much sometimes and when u get snagged it’s too hard to snap the line I used to just say f it and cut it lol. Ur definitely spot on with straight braid to spinnerbaits though I’ve done that too often and would have the hardest time getting them to run right and not get tangled like braid and spinnerbaits love to get all twisted up so I don’t do that anymore. I’ve also came down a lot on the strength of my braid I normally just stick to 20-30lb now there’s really no need for 65 or 50 even when frogging or fishing the ca delta. Anyways, ur right about straight braid to any of those baits but I say braid to leader is perfectly acceptable as well lol. Also, the 13 fishing jabber jaws r great baits and look great. 13 fishing doesn’t get the recognition they deserve their hard baits r definitely high quality and have some of the best paint jobs and the hooks they use r just right.

I agree with you. Lines are situation and lure-specific. I use fluoro and braid for lures. I get good hooksets and lose fewer fish with fluoro. Braid is for in weeds and musky fishing. I find fluoro much better for many situations I fish.

I was laughing because I share the frustration in the argumentative types. That was great ;-) Keep offering up your advice, a lot of us just listen and don't feel the need to argue with every little thing.

Always on point! Thx!

such awesome content blat. keep it going!

Fishing down south in muddy waters of Mississippi rivers i had always run 20# braid especially fishing coastal waters (due to redfish and other). Recently in the past 3 years i started fishing clear water lakes like Pickwick. Well i wasn't catching many. So i added fluro to a few reels and found my hook up ratio on spinner bait, square bills, and chatterbaits increased 10 fold and i also learned the drop shot MY FAVORITE. I do think that with braid i was just pulling the bait out their mouth. I am glad I am not the only one who feels that way. Thanks for the tips tricks and advice

Thanks for the tips!

Good stuff B-Lat,,, keep em’ Commin’🎣

Good stuff! I agree on mono or fluoro being better for those, with my limited combos, running leader has worked out best for me personally. Some of my rods, primary chatter bait rod for example, will have braid to 20ft of fluoro leader for some stretch.

Thanks for the tips. I was about to rig a Chatter Bait rod with braid.

I use nothing but braid. Usually 15# and a 8-12# mono or flouro leader. I also tend to use a medium rod, where most would use a MH. Also crankbait rods on squarebills, cranks, and some topwater. I get much better feel and rod flexes instead of line stretching.

Thanks for the info brother

‘I am so fancy.’….then….’Oh no’. Love it. Love your content, delivery, and you with your baby boy.

Okay Darryl, that was phenomenal! Always some comic relief and don't give AF.

I agree, the only time I use braid fishing grass using a frog, jig and worm. I think todays rods are much more sensitive I think you can use mono or fluorocarbon with most techniques today.

Love it, I usually fish a small pond and it seems the only Braid I can get away with is 4lb dia 15lb test. Even still Floro and Mono out fish the Braid 10 to 1 on my fishery. I just feel like my fish are spooked by line and only fine dia. line will pass. Use It to save my Ned rig heads, 4lb floro and mono break off extremely easy when snagged in grass.

This is what I use (just me) Medium/fast cast with 12 pound fluoro. Medhvy/fast cast with 15/17 fluoro. Medhvy/fast cast with braid Medlite/ fast spinning braid/fluoro leader. This is what I’m currently using and it’s definitely not perfect need a heavy rod. Fantastic channel and info great stuff 👍🏻

Very good video Brian, super helpful. I was wondering why I was having so much difficulty with those 3 specific lures. I was watching this video while at work so I didn’t hear you say if tying on a leader to braid would mitigate those problems?

I agree that proof of insurance should be checked at the beginning of the season. My local club makes an announcement letting us know to renew our fishing license since they all expire at the same time.

I use braid for anything topwater and on my spinning rod for senkos and dropshots...I started using Flouro about 4 years ago and absolutely fell in love with it...My only issue is that I go through a lot of it and if you want the good stuff it's expensive...

The treble hook rule may be true for fish with soft mouths. But for hard-mouthed fish like the golden dorado and piranha I fish for, the lack of stretch really helps setting the hook. Always upgrade to stronger trebles and split rings too!

"OK Darryl " 😆 🤣

Great video! AFish on!

Love the video

Enjoy you in your videos. Nice job

I’m a bank fisherman I put straight braid on everything 😂

I know favorite does your rods. But St Croix has a chart up for what ever you are fishing what line types and size to use helps take out the guess work even the lure weight recommendations.

Almost always agree with your comments but have to say I have used braid of some type for over 20 years with my favorite of all time bait, the spinner bait. I know most will say to use flouro but braid has worked for me with some slight adjustments, slightly looser drag and a little softer rod. Never felt like I lost a fish due to line but I don't fish in the land of giants either and never use braid over 30#. Works for me.

That explains alot.. 👍

I don’t really disagree with you, but I will say this about snagging. Getting snagged on a crank (or anything) with high test braid you’ll stretch the hooks out not break off, which I prefer losing terminal tackle vs a whole lure. Happened the other day actually. I broke my leader off and had no replacements, got snagged and stretched a hook. Just had to replace the hook later, kept my $7 lure though. Also, the 8 strand braid is much better. You get a smoother line. In tree climbing we have 12,16,24 strand, the 24 strand is smooth as butter, and so that reflects the same for 4 strand vs 8 strand braid. More strands means smoother jacket, which means farther casts and quieter operation.

I use 15 to 20 pound braided line most of the time. I have had more hooks bend and break before the line gives in many cases. On most crank baits I change the rings or use the eyelet the ring is attached to.

That squarebill looks AWESOME!

I just use a long leader it works great. Caught an 7.58lbs smallie on a KVD crank in a storm not long ag. With several 6-9lbs fish that Same trip. Consistent in the summer but I use a stretchy leader and I use a 8ft crank pole with a 6 foot leader.

I have braid on all my reels,.. but I also have a length of either mono or flouro shock leader w/ FG knot but I never use straight braid to any lure,... I never lose fish from this system👍😎🤙

Yo Brian thanks for the MTB tip

I used 2 different brands of braids. I had problems using it. When I tie the knot, I always wet it before I tighten it, after a couple of cast I noticed that the line 🪢 came apart at the knot. I could spread each strand of the fishing line. I use Sufix siege 12lbs and 14lbs mono

Yeah Darrel! 😂

The reason for the crankbaits not working on braid seems pretty simple. If the fish is skin hooked a line with a little give will put less stress on that skined hook. Whereas braid, with no stretch at all, is going to put maximum pressure on that hooking point and pull the hook free. Great insights!

Great info as always, but I Have a question. I have a 7ft 2inch heavy rod, looking to get a 7ft 11inch or 8 ft heavy what's the idea heavy rod leath for all situations?

Man I feel attacked… #BraidedLine4Life

And the fourth bait is Jerkbaits? I’m starting to fish more and more with fc. Here in Sweden braid has been the go to line for every single angler for many years, but it’s starting to change. Thanks for the video!

I agree with this video. 💯

I caught 41 bass on 40 cast...and biggest 8.49 lbs....on braid and natural shad square bill....Lake Sam Rayburn....we also won the tournament we we're in....and still use it....I just set my drag lighter...

Hey ! Brain the rod is a medium light lure weight 1/64 - 1/4 oz and line weight 4 - 12 LB

I haven’t tryed it yet! 🤔 Mystery Box!

I feel like many folks just go with whatever they hear for years and years , to each their own but i put braid on every reel always and have never gotten less bites from it or seen any negatives. I could haul a tree up if i need to and never lose a hooked fish due to line breaking. Same with lures ..anything i can use a snap swivel for im going to and have never caught less fish than the guy next to me even if it loses action. Spinner baits and worms and flukes is about the only time i tie straight to a lure just to br weedless. I have 5 poles but still keep a few with snap swivels to change baits in a few seconds and can usually get in multiple casts while a buddy is still tying something on. Fyi havent watfhed the video yet ..this was the first video when i typed use braid for everything. Heading to watch it now

B-Lat, what did that spinnerbait do to you? Just kidding. Thanks for the information. Great content always.

Brian what do you think about Yozuri hybrid flouro nylon? I have been using it for my leaders on braid.

So what setups should you be running braid? Is there a video on that?

i use braid on lipless cranks when fishing submerged grass would you say that is a exception or still no braid?????

Funny i found this video today because yesterday that very thing happened to me, i had a red devil lure on and 15lb J braid fishing for chain pickerel and when he hit POP ! Lost everything !

I agree with all of these, except the chatter bait. I fish chatter bait on straight braid and I very seldom lose fish. Big or small.

Good tips bro but what does it mean when your ChatterBait is just spiraling and floating to the top when you reel it not thumping at all?

I like running a mono leader when fishing spooks and poppers too because the stiffer mono doesn’t get caught up behind the bait and in the hooks

I use lots of braid, 8lb,10,20,30,50,65 here in florida. Floro work good, just pricey. Cheap floro, curls up bad,premium line is premium $.so for a budget guy liters are more affordable. And why i use them vs. Filling w just floro.if i had the choice, no cost involved floro gets more bites,and is better for abrasions.

I do use straight floro on my crank bait setup, but I tend to use braid to a leader for most everything else, including spinnerbaits and Chatterbaits. Haven’t had any issues, but I’m a bank angler and catch 1-4lb bass, so not over stressing the snap/wire.

So if you only have one rod and already set up for braid to flouro can I just turn down the drag to solve most of these problems?

Ol' Good Jelly Butt🤣

For those without a bunch of setups that are always running braid- can you get away with a flouro leader and get the same benefits?

Where can I buy that exact square bill crank bait? Love the color and size… just started fishing and I don’t have any crank baits yet Edit: I’m on a Nasci 2500 spinning reel so maybe I need a smaller size or would that work?

What are your thoughts on braid to leader?

Hello ! Brain. I forgot to let you know my spinning rod and reel setup for the worden original rooster tails 1/8 oz and 1/4 oz size. My spinning rod are a Todd huckabee dingo 7 foot 1- pc spinning rod and my spinning reel are a Dawia tatutla Lt size 2500 spinning reel.👍

Come on Brian I use braid on, no just kidding. You are right on point. Thanks man.

do you spool up the whole reel with fluoro or is braid to a fluoro leader alright?

So what lures do you use braided line with, what lures do you use fluorocarbon line for and mono for?

Crank baiting with braid is my favorite. If you want some stretch learn to tie a fg knot and use a leader.

You could always just adjust your drag so you don't rip the o-rings and hooks 🤷‍♂ I like braid for the strength I need when stuck in snags. I can always replace the rings and hooks if they get bent out from pulling, as long as I save the lure itself then I'm happy.

I'm going to try out braid with a fluro for trout. Just 8 pound braid with 6 pound leader. Doesn't sound like I'll have the majority of the problems you are talking about.

Truth

B Lat... Is Mystery Tackle Box for Bass anglers only, or can they be configured for the fish specific fishermen/fisherwoman? Crappie, Bluegill, etc.?

braid to flouro. i will say however that with a spinnerbait, i only use titanium wire ones with a closed loop. no issues. i also tend to just use a bendier rod. instead of fast action, i go to medium or mod fast.

Hey B Lat , question ❓ Do Hartwell fish get thirsty ❓

I've run braided line since the beginning, but I've always put an FC leader on that's about twice the poundage of the main line. I get that a lot of anglers carry around 3-4 rods every time they go out, but I only bring just one.

You can use braid for crankbait if you had a good crankbait rod.

Braid with a spinner works fine but you have to prep R-Bend Spinner baits like he shows. Just use braid to wrap a heavy loop to change that R bend into a closed loop. Then the bait will not bend like he shows. Also braid definitely is way more sensitive and you can feel every limb bump, fall bump, and or when a fish strikes the baits

I am Darryl, but I am not “Darryl363”….. just clarifying! 🤣

OK so maybe I'm old school, well yes I'm old. 54, Just a one or two day Monday through Friday and one day on the weekends kind of fishing guy. Grew up in NJ fishing with my dad and his friend for stripers, bluefish, fluke and flounder. ( and yes there is a difference ) there was nothing but Mono..... down and dirty. Then came fluorocarbon, and it was a great improvement. In my opinion your rod set up is the most important. I moved to Missouri about 20 years ago and got back into fresh water fishing. Its simple... Fluorocarbon sinks, thats for any thing under the water, mono floats top water. Rod if it has treble hooks, ST Croix Mojo Bass Glass rod. Yes I know Glass but..... it is very Parabolic in the bend it loads up great and keeps them light wire treble hooks stuck. Anything with single hook, Jig, chatter bait, buzz bait, Spinner bait you get where im going i use a Shimano bait caster Medium heavy Moderate to fast and all on Fluorocarbon, Or maybe even copolymer. Braid if for the nasty stuff. Pads heavy grass and monster rocks ETC... But if i ony knew 1/2 of what you forgot already id be such a better fish catching machine.

What pound test should I get?

Are you able to use soft plastics on braid

I was using a crank-bait yesterday and the braided line was split with the treble hook of the crank-bait. Very frustrating and last time I'll do that!

B LAT. Good content. I agree with you that all 3 of those in 95 percent of applications work best on fluorocarbon. However if you fish a ton of grass like we do up north, baits like this snap through grass much better with braid. It also cuts the grass nicely. Gets you that reaction strike. Fluorocarbon gets the bait bogged down.

I have used exclusivly braid since spider wire came out. I like it because it doesnt hold memory that causes knots. I use mono leader for my crappie and bait and weight setups were the line isnt moving to give it a little camoflage. Do to lack of stretch when using chatter and spinner baits it gives me a positive set without having to jerk the thing through and out of the fishes mouth. I always switch out the cheap hook on cheap lures. I find the more expensive lures have thicker and stronger hooks. But each of us have our own opinions and people should do as they want and not follow anyone on youtube. Heck people were using braided line long before monofilament came around as fishing line as we know it now wasnt invented until plastics.

You can always upgrade split rings too

I spell mine with a y hahaha. I enjoy fishing also🎣

I just purchased some of the Illusion Diamond line in 16lb test mono. What is it that you like about this line? Please advise,thanks Henry

I also don’t use braid on top water walking spooks or poppers. Braid gets wet and always ends up messing up the walking motion of the treble hook top water baits. Straight fluorocarbon for me. Braid flipping and pitching and a frog that’s about it lol

Would I be fine with braid and a fluoro liter?

Please don’t tell the fish in Oklahoma, because I mainly use braid, and each if those lures work extremely well. I use Rapala Sufix 832 40 lbs equivalent to10 lb mono. My urban water fishing spot is loaded with moss. I got tired of losing big bass in the moss. So I went over to braid and it solved my issue. Also, for chatter bait, I kept losing fish, so I use a treble hook as my trailer. That too eliminated lose of fish. I don’t fish lakes, were I can see where your coming from, however in heavy mossy water, I will always prefer braid.

Lost one on a crankbait weekend on a braid to fluro leader. Thanks for the help!

All my friends we use nothing but braid. You just don't set the hook super hard. I caught a bass on a spinner bait yesterday. Like I said. I dont do that super hard hook set. There definitely is a reason to use braid. 30 pound test, you won't break baits off in the fishes mouth

Only i used braed line for froggs heavy pads iused for top waters lures

Little Daryl 363 🤣😂🤣