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Yes a very good video and need our code explained like you do. But we have a clause that says discretion of the electrical inspector. Maybe we all will be on the same page some day. Thanks.
I’m not an electrician,I speak with electricians on a daily basis, the amount of qualified electricians who believe a wall mounted light switch more than 0.6m away from the the bath or shower within the bathroom is prohibited. Great videos, Dave, if RCD protected etc , why is there such reluctance within the industry. Good practice not being a reason ?
So glad we can help you in your studies. Next week one of the videos is on Landlords Electrical Certificates and the new law, so this should help too. Lots more to come and thanks for watching. Dave.
Great video as always. But you need to update it, In regards socket outlets, has now been changed from 3m from the edge of the Barth to 2.5m , AM 2 BS7671 now permits 230v socket outlets to be installed in bathroom’s and must be no less than 2.5m from the outside edge of the bath/ shower tray and yes must be protected by a 30ma RCD or RCBO. But in fairness how many domestic bathrooms are big enough to allow for socket outlets to be installed? Not very many. If I measure 2.5m from the edge of my shower tray I will be in the centre of my daughter’s bedroom. So in the real world don’t install socket outlets in bathrooms. Also I believe it’s a silly regulation as we are allowed to have a single socket outlet directly behind a cooker alongside the cooker connection unit, and we can have a single socket under the kitchen worktop behind the washing machine to power the washing machine/dishwasher. Still a great video though as always 👍
Awesome video, really helpful. From this then, I can install an electric towel rail and towel rail controller (IPx4) next to my basin, as its over 0.6m away from thr edge of the bath?
Lee, the arrows and zones are correct. Zone two is up to 0.6 m from the edge of zone 1 Outside the zones is 3m from the edge of zone 1 Thanks for watching. Dave
Steve, the Regs say that the manufacturer's instruction must state that it is suitable for zone 1 (page 244 of brown book). IP65 is better than Ipx4 and I would guess the manufacturer approves it for zone 1. Dave.
Very useful - many thanks. Would a bathroom circuit (lighting) NEED to be upgraded to an RCD protected circuit if it is ‘historical / 40 yrs old’ in order to pass a 5yearly safety inspection? Thanks.
Thanks Andy. No need to make them RCD protected IF the lighting circuit is still as installed to 14th/15th Edition AND it is still functioning as intended AND it is still electrically safe. You should get a Code C3 - improvement recommended but that is advisory and not a must do. However, nowadays, it is always good sense to RCD protect bathroom lighting if it has exposed metallic parts and can be touched whilst standing on the bathroom floor. But that is the householders choice. Hope this helps, Dave.
Yes, absolutely. In the voice over for Zone 1 we do say that an IPX4 electric shower is permitted in zone 1. To be honest , I've yet to come across a shower that isn''t IPX4 if it is installed correctly. Thanks for watching, hope you are enjoying the videos. Dave.
@@learnelectrics4402 Thanks Dave, yes your videos are excellent. In the video it does say IPX4 is permitted in zone 1 but it also says it has to be selv or pelv. I read it as, it has to be both IPX4 and, selv or pelv. Or is it the case just IPX4 by itself is sufficient for zone 1?
Yes in zone 1 only selv/pelv for switchgear, accessories and equipment. However electric showers are one of the 230V permitted exceptions in the Regulations as long as they are permanently connected, IPX4 and installed as per manufacturer's instructions. What it means is that you can't take your 230V radio into zone 1, place it on top of the shower unit and have yourself a shower. And yes, I have seen this done. Dave.
Brilliant video again dave 👍👍 would you do a video on earth leakage if it’s a topic big enough to do, I keep hearing sparks bring it up and would love to understand what it means etc 👍👍
Our pleasure. The more folk that know about the channel, the more ideas we get asked about so it all helps. Landlord Electrical Certificates on Monday as the new law takes effect in a week.
The fixed water outlet for a wet room is the plug hole where the water drains away. That is the centre of the 1.2m circle radius. A shower cubicle is not the same as a wet room as it has a clearly defined edge, the shower door or shower curtain. Yes, you could have just a shower head with a flexible hose.
If the 230 volts cables and connections etc. are outside the zone yes, i.e. behind the tiled wall, into the loft cavity. An IP44 bathroom extractor fan meets the IPX4 requirements. Mount it higher than the shower head and positioned so that spray from the shower is minimal.
I didn't realise that outside of zones counts as a zone. I thought that if you are not in zone 0, 1 or 2 that you could install what you like (as long as it complies with the other BS7671 regs), so it was a surprise that you cannot install a socket outlet if it is within 3M of the bath, but outside of zone 2. Is this right?
Absolutely right Felix, except that this year with Amendment 2 the 3 metres was reduced to 2.5 metres. It is specified so that the obligation to protect it with a 30mA RCD is upheld. Good question and thanks for watching.
@@learnelectrics4402 Thankyou for the reply :), just another quick question: could you install a socket in the out of zones zone if it were protected by a 30mA RCD? I'm doing my exams next week and your videos have been so great for revision. Have you a patreon or something I could donate to?
