"For situations like that, you're right you're needed. But if you're trying to stop a mugging and the guy's wearing all yellow *what are you going to do*"?
As if GL can't just wrap the guy in a trashcan, awning or other non-yellow object around. Plus how many muggers would run around in yellow on the off-chance they come up against a Green Lantern?
@@RandomGuy41511it'd be ineffective, the criminal can just go wearing yellow clothes (plus paint once dry can't be so easily removed with water, much less with something with such a low water pressure as a water gun)
that's a great quote... except the punisher has and will confort a crying kid. not just that, he would go out of his way to hurt anyone who has hurt that child in the first place.
@@iygnehzeel-ib6nnIf I remember correctly, yellow stuff just makes his powers stop working. It would be annoying, and possibly dangerous if he needed to use his powers at all until he could clean off the paint.
What an odd take on Batman as a character... The yellow room and lemonade is the kind of smart, douchebag play that I might expect from Bruce trying to prove a point but the way he talks and some of the extremes he goes to just feel so weird. It almost feels more like Thomas Wayne with a no-kill rule
In the original comic, it had suggestions of Batman and Robin being gay, they slept in bed together, they changed that because it was inappropriate for children.
@@Taedrin Yes, that is canon. Because of the yellow impurity where the old people of the watcher league or however they are called imprisoned the being parallax in the great green lantern. And because it represents fear. Green is Willpower. Once they have faced and overcome their greatest personal fear, they do not have that weakness anymore. Or maybe once parallax has been dealt with. It changes from time to time.
To be fair, the whole point of TDKR is that Batman lost his way after years of becoming grizzled and desensitized from decades of crime fighting. But you'd think a prequel to that comic would show how he turned into that version of Batman, rather than depicting him as somehow _even more_ of a dick.
i read this issue without knowing that context and was so confused. at first i thought maybe this was Dick Grayson as Batman, but still very character-assassinated. no idea why they wrote Bats like this
@@Orange_Swirl Because he keeps trying to have it both ways. He constantly says comics are for children and yet he's worked on and written some of the most grown up, mature stories in comics.
I think the scaring people works but the mistreatment of Robin is out of character, more used to him saying “stray from my directions in anyway and you’re fired”
Agreed. Everything else just seemed like Batman but dialed up quite a bit. The dialogue was a little off, I expect him to speak a bit dryer, but overall the only major issue I saw was that kidnapping and abusing Grayson really pushed him over the edge from beating up criminals for the right reasons to being just as bad as them, which is odd for him in his prime.
Abusing Robin is definitely in character, not to the extent but batman is canon to take kids train them to fight crime and basically steal their childhood from them. Dudes been abusing kids forever
@@lunaeons45That’s not true, The kids become orphaned because of the hard streets of Gotham, they eventually find out his secret and make themselves crime fighters against Batman’s wishes he just thought it’d be better if they were trained to do it right as not to get themselves killed.
And having Robin almost kill Hal Jordan/Green Lantern is a sick joke,this completely underminds Hal as the greastest Green Lantern. A 13/14 yr old kid almost kills him ??? This is something Sinestro could never do,how can a kid do it ???
If you don't know, this version of Batman (All-Star Batman) completely hates Robin. He essentially kidnapped Grayson, treated him like shit, forced him to become a child soldier, told him to eat rodents and vermin to survive, and then when he didn't turn out perfect, discarded him like trash. He then went on to grow old and beat the shit out of Superman. That's right, this child-abuser Batman grew up to become The Dark Knight Returns Batman, the version people love so much.
Frank Miller wrote the worst Batman because he, like so many other people, wanted Batman to be more like the Punisher. So many people idolize the Punisher as some sort of brutal hero, when in reality he exists in the Marvel universe to serve as a warning. Someone who brutalizes, tortures, and kills can never be a "hero". Just a vigilante. Honestly, if someone has a Punisher bumper sticker or talks about Batman being super cool because he breaks bones and hospitalizes criminals, that's a red flag.
Punisher merchandise has been ruined for me by people that don't understand the characters is Jason Vorhees for criminals not a superhero to be idolized but a terrifying monster that should make you question your own morals
@@Jabroni_14 it's really baffling isn't it? They just can't understand that Punisher is a murderer, a serial killer who targets criminals and even if they haven't committed death penalty offenses he casually murders them anyway. That if you're siding with him and cheering him on you aren't a good, moral person either.
Wasn’t Batman when he did his Batman..was almost DONE..like dc going to rid of him so Frank wrote him that way as a last hurrah thing? Then again people also misinterpreted the point of Watchmen…
I always considered All Star Batman to be one from Death Metal evil Batmen team who tied Barry Allen Flash to the hood of the Batmobile and drove them both into the Speed Force or whatever where they merged somehow giving us evil superspeed Batman.
butchers batman, green lantern, and dick grayson. Batman doing literally ANYTHING he did in this story is an insult to the character, green lantern is beyond too powerful for this to happen, not to mention yellow hasn't nullified their powers since the golden and silver ages, and for dick grayson, even as a child to take any of this, it's just character assassination
Yeah almost everything here is stupid and poorly written, except the line "we've always been criminals" and everything being yellow which is funny if nothing else.
How in the hell did frank miller thought of all star batman the worst way possible especially the fact that he is extremely abusive to kids like what was blud thinking 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
ayy I know ASSBAR! It's got my favorite Batman villain, Crazy Steve! He stole a Batsuit from a trash can and is under the delusion he's Batman but acts more like The Punisher! My favorite part was when he said "I'M DA GODDAMN BATMAN!!!" and proceeded to Batman all over other superheroes. Truly it was a moment in comics to ever exist. :)
Honestly, All Star Batman isn't a good story, but one thing it is good at is using Batman to deconstruct superhero tropes if this is anything to go by. He's right. Superheroes are criminals, in the sense that they operate outside and even against the law in the act of enforcing it. They're vigilantes and violent ones at that. He also shows how ridiculous, exploitable and crippling some superhero weaknesses are.
Except Green Lantern , who's a duly recognized member of an actual police force , albeit an extraterrestrial one. So Batman is wrong on that one , but I'd never expect Frank Miller's worldview to admit so basic a fact. Miller's Batman ends up merely being a sounding board for his own cynicism , creating an invulnerable plot armor for Bats while dumbing down other characters to make his world - weary points. As long as you can buy into that concept, Miller's Batman works fine. Fun read that falls apart under analysis.
@@subliteral I'm pretty sure Earth's governments don't recognize the lantern corps, at least as far as I know. That actually makes it worse, since that technically makes him an extraterrestrial invader in violation of local jurisdiction laws. Barry Allen (The Flash) _is_ a recognized police officer, _but_ that's as _Barry Allen._ As The Flash he's still acting outside the law.
My reaction when the yellow bat stole Hal's ring was wanting Hal to shrug and suggest he give it a try. He's so jealous of the power ring, let him see what he can do with it.
Still, I wish Miller and Lee had finished it. The book was so unhinged it's very existence made no sense. Like, how'd it get through editorial? It's amazing. Hahaha - it's a tragedy this thing was never closed out. Cannot imagine where it might have gone.
To be fair a Green lantern had a high IQ he'd be able to take out Batman even in that yellow room he would make a particle explosion and shield himself all he has to do is flood the air with methane and let it rip
So it never occurred to Green Lantern that he was in a yellow room with a yellow Batman? This Batman wasn't smart , Miller just wrote everyone else to be incredibly stupid. Fans got hypnotized by the gorgeous Jim Lee art into thinking this was a great comic story.
ironically, this might be part of the problem. most of the good batmans see their line of work as being necessary or a downright curse. its like, reliving the scene in crime alley every day of his life. its not the happiest interpretation of him, but id like to think thats why he does this, yknow? to make sure there can never be another batman. if he enjoys being batman, and this is literally just a game a douchebag homophobic child-abusing billionaire plays for fun, is there literally anything left to like about batman?
Hal: You do know you look completely stupid by covering your entire body yellow, right? Batman: Yes. And there's nothing you can do about it with that ring of yours.
@@cheshirewise942 Okay, it goes like this: Parallax, an entity of fear, is the color yellow on the emotional spectrum. Opposite to the power of Will, which is green. Hence the weakness. Alan Scott, Green Lantern from another dimension, was weak to wood, but this was based in magic, as were his powers, in stark contrast to Green Lanterns from the main universe
Yup. Ngl aside from "who Batman is supposed to be" argument (in which i think there are plenty of directions you can take the character as long as it is well-written), i agree with ya. this issue was NOT well-written. Shame, in both this and Snyder-verse, i like the usage of the Line "we are criminals", more so signifying Batman's "privilage" to be more terrifying and punishing to the street-level criminals, much to the dismay of more idealist super heroes. hope someday i see it explored more in a well-written story (I'm not much familiar with Batman comics, if anyone knows an issue close to that idea, give a brother the sauce ^_^).
Rather than privilege, I've always liked the "superheroes are criminals" angle as a commentary on the law being so twisted that trying to save people from all the criminals the law ignores or lets go requires breaking the law yourself. Of course, this "Batman" is just a psychopath, so I'm talking about it in other contexts.
The snyderverse and the dark knight returns animated movie as a stand alone and not looking at the other frank Miller comics like this one, are perfect, Batman changed and saw that his way of doing things before didn't stop crime, he beats a criminal up, sends them to jail, and they come out to do the same bullshit, it was tiresome, and costly both in terms of money and innocent lives. Change was needed.
@@WallNutBreaker524 saw them both...agree with the Dark Knight returns (only saw the 2 part animation tho didn't read the comics) pretty good story that focuses on it, especially part 1...and though i think snyder-verse is horribly written through and through, I have plenty of compliments for Batflek. Soooo, thanks...good choices.
@@parsa1372I read TDKR and much later watched the movie. They're pretty much identical iirc. TDKR was a one-shot graphic novel, which adapts to the screen simply enough.
@@l0sts0ul89 Technically this is one of the only moments in this comic that isn't inaccurate. Without their rings, Dick and Bruce would tear any human lantern limb from limb. The skill difference is massive; there is a reason Bruce and his flunkies are considered peak human in DC. Human green lanterns without a ring? Not so much.
I would actually love for this to be a parallel earth Batman. The way Miller wrote him strikes me as one of those a-hole gumshoe or maverick cop type protags. It's like it leaned more to the idea of Bruce's trauma leaving a mark that isn't just deep but can be seen all the way up at a surface level; a broken man with mental health issues.
I actually enjoyed this part of the comic quite a bit. I remember it having crazy delays and that along with the uneven nature is I'm not even sure if it was completed or how far it got.
While these comics are absolute shit, I will say that Batman fighting green lantern by painting himself and a room yellow is amazing, and the idea that Batman thinks that his job is to scare people and that all superheroes are criminals fits perfectly. Sometimes the best moments and ideas of a series come from its worst parts.
It's a good idea only if you don't think about it for more than 2 seconds. Then it becomes clear how remarkably stupid it really is. I mean, all Green Lantern has to do is go back outside and smash the whole thing from there. It's pretty easy.
Turns out Green Lantern weakness is having his ring taken, not the colour yellow. In the multiverse, there would have to be a Batman like this somewhere.
I had been a Green Lantern fan since the 60's and I always see people bringing up the "Paint myself yellow" gag, but what everyone seems to forget is that Hal can drag a meteor or a mountain down and squash the hell out of you. Direct use of the Power Ring on yellow? Yes, that's useless. Indirect? Prepare to see what happens when you die.
I just got done reading Spider Man's notorious Clone Saga a few weeks ago, and by the sound of this, I think I'd rather slog through that mess again than pick up All Star Batman and Robin.
You know all GL needed to do is make a super powerful air blower. Could range from pushing Batman back to small yet powerful stream to cut through objects.
*Sigh* "Ok Batman, let me ask you a question. Are the inside of your lungs yellow? How far down your nostrils did you paint? Let's see how you like being a pinata from the inside." *Robin steals his ring* "That's cute kid, but I don't need to grab it from you, all I need to do is call it back to my finger. Let's find out who's will is stronger."
Green Lantern's weakness needs to be changed. Their weakness should be fear, since their powers come from willpower and fear takes away and weakens willpower.
To be fair if the powers were consistent and every single green lantern wasn't a dumbass this weakness wouldn't matter. They can make whatever they want with the most powerful weapon in the universe and all they do is punch people and make bubbles...
If you're Green Lantern: Step One - produce something not yellow in some way for example by giving yourself a minor cut, taking your keys out of your pocket. Step two - use your lantern powers to move the object with both great speed and force. Not unlike a bullet. Step Three - once either Batman or Robin are bleeding and/or dead use the blood/corpses to make an exit from the room. It always bothers me when Supers are painted as "too stupid to use their own powers".
Um... Gold face, Sinestro and a lot of repeat villains who think "Hey, I know. I'll just wear and have my lackeys wear yellow, have the mcguffin be yellow and have the deathtraps be yellow so he'll be helpless against them. What could possibly go wrong with that idea?" He also fought Sinestro's yellow constructs on a semi-semi-regular basis. Just saying.
There were only two Green Lanterns with back up plans against yellow that I am aware of. With one her body was a trap that could capture bad guys and one (temporary) just carried a gun.
Honestly GL deserved it for being prideful. He could've just flew out the window created a giant claw or something and grip the room so tightly that Batman gets trapped between the rubble and then save them.
Imagine if Green Lantern just nodded calmly, manifested a pair of scissors and cut his own hair (which is not yellow) then used the lantern's power to force the hair into a spike shape (hair is fundamentally the same material as nails and claws, after all...a protein called keratin) and send that blasting into Batman like a bullet.
Fundamentally the same ≠ the same. As soon as the hair touches Batman the green lantern power would lose its control over the hair and it’d turn into normal hair again
@@elmok That's fine. The keratin in hair is the same keratin in nails and claws--launch a bullet of hair-sourced keratin at 1500fps you've basically got yourself an anti-tank round.
People often forget a big thing about Green Lantern. The hardlight projections STILL HIT things that are yellow, they just can't do things like restrain and transport.
Having 1 color as your weakness really amuses me. Who the hell wants to wear a ring just to find out your only weakness is to a yellow school bus, a banana, yellow T shirt, Sand, a fucking emoji?! Anything thats yellow gotta be the most over powered weapon against him.
