Batman v Superman v Captain America: Civil War - Why One Worked and One Didn’t - SCENE FIGHTS! 

Where do you stand? Batman vs Superman or Civil War? And why is that?

Iron Man and Captain America actually had a relationship and were friends. That’s why it hurt a lot more when they fought

You know Marvels awesome by the fact most of us can’t choose who’s side we are on in Civil War

Tony spent his entire life regretting never saying I love you to his father, yet he simultaneously hated him because his father was a known drunk and he possibly thought that his father drunk driving killed both him and his mother. Then he finds out that that blame was entirely misplaced and not only that, he stood right next to him and the person that his father constantly compared him to, the person that he has finally come to trust, he k n e w. If this was you, you would have the same reaction.

Short answer: one studio actually knows what they’re doing.

Bruh Civil War felt like a divorce, BvS left a bad taste

My reactions to these movies couldn't have been more different. When Steve and Tony were fighting, I wanted to jump through the screen and make them stop. When Batman and Superman were fighting, I wanted them to just kill each other and end the torture.

Civil War: why are mummy and daddy fighting? BvS: what’s happening and why are we supposed to care?

Civil war: the tragic story of a friend ship falling apart because of hut feelings, betrayal and lies. Batman v Superman: a bald man told me to kill you. And you may one day be a threat, possibly, maybe.

Here’s the thing that astonishes me about Civil War to the day. You can take any character in that film and know exactly why they stand where they stand on the accords. In seconds. That is prime storytelling.

Because we had time to see Steve and Tony bond as friends in previous films, and civil war isn't about two gods fighting each other like in bvs, it's about two friends fighting each other.

One word for each universe: Marvel is built, DC is forced.

“I don’t care, he killed my mom” This is the moment he’s no longer the genius billionaire playboy philanthropist, but a heartbroken angry man. He’s learning his parents didn’t just die but their death was cold and calculated, and the person who did it won’t apologise or own up and is fighting you. To then go on a 2v1 with 2 people who always seem to have the moral high ground must be beyond frustrating. Cap said it and caps worthy so cap is right, even though he withheld this life changing information from me and called us a team. Regardless of morals or whatever I side with Tony 100%.

Marvel: Let's give the Avengers solo movies to help people get to know the characters, then we'll release a team up film. DC: Let's release a team up film before the solo films and assume that people are already familiar with our characters.

*Tony beating up Steve* Steve: Save...James! Tony: WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME! T'Challa: It's the name of his best friend! Tony: Oh it's the name of mine too we're all cool now bros let's go fight an alien together

I do love how in civil war... Compared to the introductory movies of Iron Man and Captain America. You'd think Tony would be against the accords in civil war. Because he spent his whole second movie trying to keep the government from taking his suits. But no, he made it personal because of guilt for creating Ultron and the deaths that caused. You'd think Captain America being a veteran who understands the heirarchy of a military, and was the U.S. army mascot for a while, would back the accords. But because he witnessed Hydra corrupting not just the government but most of SHIELD. Yeah no... Governments can be corrupt. There is no more black-and-white good vs evil kind of thing. But it's so much better when all that gets ditched out the window... Cause Tony and Cap had a make-up talk before the fight because Tony figured out the whole army of winter soldiers thing. And that led to one, emotional beatdown, for one simple reason... Tony realizes that Captain America's Best friend murdered his parents... And Cap knew about it but didn't tell him... Hell, Cap was straight up acting like he was taking the high ground the whole movie. Which I bet added more fuel to that fire.

"Like watching a child cope with the death of a parent" 9:07 -Flashbacks to Endgame - *Cuts to me sobbing in a corner*

I will say this, in the MCU I always say Steve, Tony, Natasha, Clint. Not Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, or Hawkeye when watching the movies. In the DCEU, I always say Batman, Superman, the Flash, Aquaman. That’s how familiar and relatable the MCU superheros are, because the MCU took time and made me very familiar with these characters. They didn’t just come out with an Iron Man movie and then have him go against Captain America two years later in another movie without any reason to (in my opinion). And then not introduce the other heroes properly (besides Wonder Woman). The MCU is a prime of example of patience leading to success

So basically if Marvel did what DC did it would be: 1) Captain America: The First Avenger 2) Captain America: Civil War 3) Guardians of the Galaxy 4) Captain Marvel 5) The Avengers 6) Black Panther 7) Thor

Whenever someone asked me if I preferred DC or Marvel, I would always say DC. I loved Batman, Wonder Woman and the Flash. And then I started watching Marvel movies and I grew so attached to characters like Tony, Nat, Steve, Peter, Bucky etc., because of the development that is shown throughout the movies, the emotion, and the humanity of these characters. They go through wars, both mentally and physically, and they don’t leave unscathed. They form PTSD, anxiety, depression, and insecurity, and not everybody lives. Favorite characters die protecting their world and this made me cry more than DC ever did(I can’t recall DC making me cry).

Civil War made me cry especially at the end where Steve dropped his shield after iron man say "my dad made that shield, you don't deserve it." MY EMOTIONS

I laughed so hard when he said “it would make more sense than killing Jack.... who’s Jack?”

honestly, this is because the MCU made solo films to make audiences familiar with each avenger and made them all likeable. you get to sympathise with tony and steve, understand their relationships - who do they love, what are their values, what shaped them into the hero they are today? and then they oppose the two in civil war, and it works because the audience already knows who tony and steve are and you're either loyally rooting for someone, or you're devastated by being in-between. for cap fans, we know how much steve mistrusts organisations because of the events of TWS, we know how much bucky means to him because we saw his entire life get taken from him when he was frozen in ice. so when tony tries to kill bucky and opposes the accords, we root for him and the desperation he has to protect the one person left in his life who knew him as steve and not captain america. for ironman fans, we know how much the death of his parents affected him, and how much stress tony has experienced - from pepper leaving him, to the whole ultron mess, were informed of his stance on the accords. so when steve protects bucky and lies to tony, we sympathise with tony's pain of seeing his parents die and we understand why its important for him to sign the accords. this audience attachment to the characters is what makes the MCU so great - its less about watching action and looking at epic battles like in BvS, but more about seeing our favourite superheroes experience human emotions and rooting for them. tony and steve's final battle is less about morality or the badass one-uppance of two strong forces, its about an emotional conflict informed by 2 fleshed-out characters and the collision of their stories.

“Like watching a child deal with the death of a parent” *shows Steve holding peggys casket* w h a t

The big difference is simply: we as an audience knew and understood Steve and Tony and their choice which led to their battle and conflict. In BvS we see a Batman no one can relate to (dude kills people and uses guns like a nornal thug) and a Superman we only saw a glimpse of fight for the sake of “because we can fight”. It is senseless, its unrelatable and just plain stupid.

" You don't deserve that shield my dad made that shield! "

"And the other is fiercely defended by what has to be 1 guy with 1,000 different usernames" *LOOOL!!!*

Civil War hurts more even if I watch now because Steve and Tony were friends who had some differences between them. After watching them together all those years and see them parting made me cry. But Batman v Superman felt more like a random billionaire with a bat suit fights a krypton alien who saves the Earth.

This channel could be named “Why Marvel is good and DC is bad”

Superman's death and watching everyone mourn for him was like watching those documentaries about North Koreans fake mourning for Kim Jong-il

"He's my friend, Tony." "So was Martha."

When they made Batman say “Oh Shit” was a turn off for me. Like I thought he was supposed to be cool, dark, and serious.

“Overstuffs the movie with too many characters, but it works.” Endgame: “.........”

The Lex Luthor and Daffy Duck comparison is hilariously accurate. I can’t believe I never thought of it.

Civil War was so much better than BvS it's not even worth discussing.

Civil war was a movie about established characters who are working together as a team finding themselves fighting on different sides of a war because their ideologies were conflicting and stuff turned so bad that fighting became their only way out. BvS was a movie 2 guys with pretty much no relationship with each other fighting over their ideology and at the same time was supposed to set up a future movie in which they would team up with other guys who all got some cameo appearance in this movie. One just makes so much more sense than the other.

"He's my friend," "So was I."

4:01 That comparison with Daffy Duck is spot on thoo 😂

I suddenly have this urge to rewatch Civil War

One question hasn't been answered Who TF is Jack?

civil war will always be my fav and holds a special place in my heart bc its the one that got me into marvel. i really love bucky and the part that always gets to me is when tony goes "do you even remember them?" and he says "i remember all of them" he literally remembers all of the horrible things hydra had him do but couldn't do anything about it :(

Civil war actually almost made me cry and it felt like something actually changed

Zemo was a great villain. I literally got really sad when they show the scenes of him listening to that voicemail. Poor guy... I really do feel for him.

Civil War is what happens when actual characters have conflicting motivations. Batman v Superman is what happens when you mush together two brand names and make dumb excuses for why they got mushed together.

"we are not on speaking terms" - Tony to Bruce after civil war referring Steve 😝

An emotional story about a family breaking apart. Even if they reunite, some of the wounds will never truly heal. Which is why Civil War is a phenomenal movie, I'm more interested in the fact that they're separating than the action. While in BvS, I was waiting for the action just because the rest of it was so dull and even the action bored me.

The smart thing about BvS is that if you get rid of the "v" you get a straightforward description of the overall rating of the movie 👍

Also the immense character moments in Civil War. Tony Stark, who in Iron Man was so UNFAZED when someone called him 'the merchant of death' like he literally didn't care, was now so perturbed by the fact that he was partially responsible for the death of just one person. THAT'S an amazing buildup. Steve Rogers, who spent his entire life being a symbol for his country and abiding the government, now grew to mistrust the same people who he wanted to be a part of so much in The First Avenger. THAT'S an amazing buildup.

The Main Difference is that the Russo Brothers just want to tell a good story by developing the characters slowly and then when it's time bring them together for the Much Earned Payoff And then there is Mr Snyder Who just tries to prove he is a great Visionary and his movies are always trying to push the boundaries, but all they do is butcher a good Story and sacrifice character development for CGI Battles

BvS being compared to civil war, its the highest honor its ever gonna get

After all these years the criminals found out how to defeat batman. MARTHAAAAAA!

When he said Daffy Duck I lost it 😂😂

Also Baron Zemo's plan made perfect sense while Lex Luthors plan was absolute bonkers. Even if lhis plan succeeded and Superman would have killed Batman and then been killed by Doomsday. Then Lex would have had an uncontrollable monstrosity as or more powerfull as superman to deal with and the only two people who he knows that maybe could have stopped that monstrosity are both dead. I really don't think that situation would have been benefitial for LEx Luthor.

"One built a universe and the other broke one apart" I don't like ScreenCrush, but that was gold 😂😂😂

Marvel carefully and painstakingly invented the wheel and showed how such a feat is done. DC said, "Pfft, that takes time and effort. We'll just drive with squares."

"no calls their mom by her first name" Me: You haven't met my cousin.

One thing I love about civil war is that you can see both Iron Man's and Cap's pov and understand both of their sides. Like Tony lost his parents and was kept hidden about the actual reason of their death by someone whom he considered a friend. Not to mention that friend was doing every thing he could to protect the killer of his parents. As for Steve, he finally found someone from his old life. He lost the love of his life but had a chance to save his best friend. Had he told Tony the actual truth, do y'all really think Tony would've acted rational and helped save The Winter Soldier? Would Tony have understood at that point that The Winter Soldier did not have a choice?

Marvel: hey let's give some background on Tony's parents DC:Martha

The content was great and the editing was great. I even paused on the memes. Great job.

"Who's Jack?!" 😂😂😂 You're hilarious dude

Never had heard a review so hilarious for the longest time, until this? Awesome ScreenCrush!

I swear to God,that had to be the best break down of both of those movies I have ever seen. Bravo Bravo Bravo to you sir, excellent job! 👍👍👍👍👍

Superman should’ve said “...they’re killing my mom...” Then that’s when Batman realises he’s fucked up. Ben aflecks a good actor he could’ve carried that reaction.

So there is a common misconception about Civil War that really matters and makes me land squarely on Tony’s side: Tony was not asking the government to make decision for him like a juvenile delinquent. He wanted accountability but independence - he says to Steve that he would use his influence and the Avengers’s influence to amend the accords - all he wants to do is avoid clashing with world governments and maintain accountability. Cap almost agrees to this until he lashes out emotionally after hearing Wanda is being protected at the Avengers compound - which makes no logical sense. He liked Tony’s proposal but then let emotion of an unrelated small issue change his mind. Just an added bit that is there in the movie but often overlooked.

If only DC tried to be patience and develop their universe gradually by first developing each character's backstory before rushing into an ensemble movie before people even get to know the characters.

4:56-"Is not a perfect movie." 8 seconds later "This movie's perfect!!"

Marvel had sold most of their movie rights and was almost to the point of bankruptcy. They go all in on Iron Man with Easter eggs setting up their idea, we bite, they masterfully concoct and execute a decade long (but not super-detailed, leaving room for organic growth and social/cultural changes) plan never before done in the history of filmmaking: a shared movie universe. They give every hero (except Black Widow and Hawkeye) their own standalone origin movie before any interaction with a larger ensemble teamup movie, PLUS two follow-up movies which gives the character plenty of time to develop and the audience plenty of time to get not just interested but attached. DC/WarnerBros: Decides to do a another superman movie (just had one a couple years prior), perhaps even a trilogy. *Oh shit, look what Marvel is doing!* then *HOLY SHIT! LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE MAKING!* Decides to use Man of Steel to shoehorn in their own version of a cinematic universe to capitalize on Marvel's success. Creates BVS, it flops and creates millions of memes. Creates Wonder Woman, it does well. Creates Justice League, it flops and creates a few memes. Back at Marvel: Hey Wonder Woman did really well, let's take the hint and start doing female left movies. Succeeds even more.

"...and an armored billionaire orphan" lmfao 😂😂

This video is very well thought out and made genuinely.

The save martha scene would have been so much better if he had said “save my mother” It wouldnt really have been meme able like it was and It would have shown what the director was trying to do so much better Batman saw superman as a monster Monsters do not have mothers When he realizes he has a mother He has to deal with the fact he is dealing with a person and not a monster But using “martha” just ruined it and made it too cringy

That one guy defending DC disliked this video with his army of 1000 usernames.

"Why not give these characters weight?" Batman and Superman World's Finest: We did it back in the 90s

Very well done....Thank you

“The BLACK PANTHER has been the protector of Wakanda for generations; a mantle, passed from warrior-to-warrior. . .& now, because your friend murdered my father, I also wear the mantle of ‘KING’. So, I ask you. . .as both warrior and king -> How long do you think you can keep your friend safe from me?”

Don't forget now, if you ever find yourself fighting batman, yell Martha and he'll be your friend.

I just wanna say that I love how we all know which one "didn't work" before even clicking the video

"Like watching a child cope with the death of a parent " *Shows Steve carrying Peggy's casket*

The saddest irony is when you consider how recent Marvel movies had characters losing limbs and how they recently made the R-rated Deadpool. In light of these events, you could argue that Marvel even does dark stories/narratives better than the DCEU. Marvel beats them at light and dark storytelling. DCEU is hopeless.

"marvel characters don't take themselves seriously so when something serious does happen it's effective." This is exactly why I think people are wrong to criticize the mcu's comedy. I've only cried during two mcu films, Groot's death and Yondu's death, and those two scenes came in the most comedy of comedies the MCU has ever comedied.

Awesome review

This video is amazing!! I love how you explain your opinions in a respectful way but you're also a biiiit biased like us😂 Your video is great keep going!😄❤️

Baron Zemo is a better villain than Lex Luthor will ever be (in this context). He has everything Luthor lacks, motivation, character, depth and emotion.

All they had to do was change Superman's line to "Save my mother" instead of the whole Martha thing. We get a flashback of Bruce's mom collapsing and he doesn't kill Superman. No memes and the ratings would've been significantly better. Oh and recasting of Lex Luther.

The problem that I have with BvS is that film never grasped one story line it try to do way too much with so little and to top it off cram so many different stories that have no weight because nothing has been setup yet in previous films. What Civil War does so amazingly well is that it never feels like they were trying to do too much with too little is the exact opposite effect, they did very little with so much convolution from previous stories rolling into Civil War and still managed to introduce two characters into the story without feeling forced. They were focused, concise, and to top it all off it had one main story line and not thirty of them. With that out of the way. People want blood in Civil War the problem with this mentality is that Civil War is the middle chapter in the middle of this huge story being told. Story within a story and the fall of the Avengers has severe consequences because eventually it leads to entire universe feeling the effects of Thanos. Killing a main Avenger or even a character that doesn't matter will have no weight in the third act of the giant story ie, Infinity War, Endgame. The argument could be made that it made the team hold back from creating something with deadlier consequences but the consequence at the end of the Civil War is that when you don't talk with each other you let emotions run high it cause a much bigger problem which is the death of the team... When Jimmy dies,I felt nothing, when superman died,I felt nothing. When Lois was in danger I didn't feel anything because these characters intersect so little in previous films and or BvS also does a terrible job in setting it all up to begin with. When the Cap buried the shield in the Arc reactor you immediately feel the weight of the break of all those years working together and being like brothers. At the end they are not friends and the Cap is on the run. The extension of the olive branch was just the Cap being cathartic not for Tony but for himself and with this he makes peace with his choices of the past.

i must say... marvel really thought this through... they made characters kinds relatable (just like what Stan Lee said)

"Racists in space!" I lol'd

Civil War was just hands down the superior film in every way. The writing, directing, plot, cinematography, talent....

7:12-7:21 - Hey, you forgot, "Stay Down! If I wanted it, you'd be dead already". That's 10 more words now 😂😂😂

Why did one work and the other didn't? Just one single reason. Everything. In it. Was better.

Whenever I see someone say that BvS is genius and if you don't like it you're just not smart enough to understand the genius, I can't help but wonder - doesn't that in and of itself make BvS a bad movie? It's meant for the general public, not just comic fans. If you have to be so completely immersed in the source material and films that you can find excuses for obvious flaws, so that the average viewer won't like the movie, wouldn't that be considered a failure in filmmaking? I just feel like there's no real way to defend BvS besides, "yeah, it's not a good movie, but the characters mean a lot to me and I personally enjoyed it."

To everyone saying Zemo's plan wasn't consistent, here's a breakdown. 1. Zemo was trying to find the security tape that would pit Iron Man against Bucky and thus against Cap, breaking bonds etc. However only 2 people had intel on where the location which had the tape was; Bucky and the Hydra agent he interrogates. The agent refuses to talk so his only choice is Bucky. The problem is that Buck had been in hiding for 2 years. So how do you make someone in hiding come out? You make them a wanted man. *Insert the UN bombing here*. Then he pretty much lets the government capture Buck for him so he can put him under that mind control shit from the Soviets (the words he says while Bucky tries to break out) and then Zemo gets the info he needed and makes his way to Siberia to retrieve the tape.

You guys hit it on the head every time!

Your videos are awesome

I tried to watch bvs 3 times and fell asleep each time, I don’t know how many times I’ve seen civil war but I’m still emotionally invested

JL vs Infinity War: why one works and why one doesn't.

Because of the detail this guy goes into breaking down a movie I never expected that virginity joke and it was the best laugh I had after a long day

This is basically Marvel Fans v DC Fans hail hydra

why one worked and why one didn't: Civil War was the continuation of a story that had been building to that point and left the door open for continuation after. B vs S failed because the DC movies are a dumpster fire of unorganization, zero continuity, and lack of consistency. they lack a solid group of core actors and can't keep any of them around long enough to build a solid franchise. B vs S seems like DC realized just how far behind the MCU they were, and tried to catch up in 2.5 hours, hoping that somehow this would set up a Justice League movie, and Justice League was a disaster. talk about shoving things down our throats... basically, B vs S was like trying to drive from New York to Los Angeles in one day whereas Civil War was a landmark attraction on a world tour - just a stop to admire and add to the journey

why does Diana suddenly appear, that fight wasn't threatening the world until the alien arrived, she was like, I'ma join this ridiculous fight and fight this big guy who I don't know

I really enjoyed the video and ur explanation of choice between both movies and ur perspective is spot on. I do have a question for u. In the video u said that civil was spoiled with the pictures of Bucky and the news article with Tony's parents death that refers back to winter soldier. Did u know that it was infact Bucky that killed Starks parents while watching winter soldier?