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Battle of the Rangers! Pagani VS. San Martin | £90 vs £200 Comparison | The Watcher 

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I got to compare the PD Vs.The San Martin in 'The Battle of the Rangers', such a huge difference in both quality and price!!
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San Martin SN0107:
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Комментарии : 93   
@cosmodoc
@cosmodoc Год назад
for my taste, the Pagani looks much better as a whole!
@that_which_is_not
@that_which_is_not Год назад
I’m tight, Pags all the way for this particular model/design 😂
@the_9ent
@the_9ent Год назад
While SM has better specs, I think PD comes out on top in terms of value and general looks.
@andromedagodit2492
@andromedagodit2492 Год назад
Totally agree. The SM's price just doesn't justify the 'quality' it presents... Better brushing notwithstanding... I'll still go for the PD. 😁
@DarthPlaya
@DarthPlaya Год назад
Having owned multiple PD's and SM's I am familiar with the quality levels of both, and even though (IMHO) SM has better overall quality, I don't feel the difference in quality warrants the difference in cost, and I agree with just about all your points. On paper and logically it would be financially better to go with the PD. So with all that being said, why in the hell did I choose the SM over the PD?😂 Good video as usual, thumbs up given!
@mikewhite4988
@mikewhite4988 2 месяца назад
I got the pagani for £35 in sale, on a nato it's a beautiful watch, you can't compare to an SM because the real price of the PD is so much lower
@mr.eswatchreviews
@mr.eswatchreviews Год назад
San Martin always seems to makes a nice watch
@chca4768
@chca4768 Год назад
You just saved me a lot of money and time. I was thinking of putting a different set of dial and hands in the SM! Thank you. Nice comparison.
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 Год назад
Pagani for me! SM is overpriced! with too much dust! My score is Pagani 8/10, SM 5/10
@alamore5084
@alamore5084 Год назад
Agree, the PD is the better quality and design. I own two SM's myself but they have become complacent now. I find Steeldive and Cronos movements better time keepers yet SM charges more.
@alixrza3107
@alixrza3107 Год назад
Sm really need to up their dial game imo, lacking and very boring. Great for a mod tho lol. Thanks for the vid mate, exceptional as always 👍 👍
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Appreciate it bro and yeh that is a dead dial
@XjohnjohnX88
@XjohnjohnX88 Год назад
I love comparisons ! And you did a great job 👍 I would choose the SM as well , but for someone who can't afford it, the Pagani is still a decent watch for the price. Very interesting video 👌
@turradi1126
@turradi1126 Год назад
Love your reviews. Only comment would be that I don't see cost cutting as laziness. Everything comes down to money, as we all know.
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 Год назад
Could you apply a logo and wording stencil/applied logo to this dial, if you can't source an approprate replacement dial?
@TeoBlu
@TeoBlu Год назад
Devil is in the details. Didn't know SM has such dull dial. Excellent comparison. Thank you.
@abmorose6531
@abmorose6531 Год назад
Awesome job 👍, Imo Both looks pretty good , but im really diggin that Gangsta gold plated Classic Seiko with jubilee bracelet 🔥 🔥🔥😎🤯Cool
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Yeh looks so cool
@brianmsahin
@brianmsahin Год назад
Excellent run down as always. I'd be definitely learning towards the PD if 36mm was my size preference, I like the high box crystal and the dial shades and no Pagani Design on the dial definitely suits it. As for the water resistance, neither will likely be in the water anyway and on the reality of how resistant they are, and not being divers, I wouldn't trust it either. I do have a Heimdallr and Steeldive, 200m and 300m respectively and I do use them as DC backups very regularly when diving and both are performing excellently. I would be more wary of the rating on watches not specifically made for swimming or diving.
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Yeh i agree with your views on WR Brian
@artieshell9205
@artieshell9205 Год назад
PD has too much shine for me. Too blingy. Thanks for the video!
@Me-pz5by
@Me-pz5by Год назад
I feel generally SM watches are over priced comparing the market (homages/replica), I own 3 SM, but I found many replicas with good movement and very high end finishing and better bracelet clasp sells at same price plus considering the extra cost for sell copies. So I don not mean go and buy replicas, but what SM offers for the price is not the best in terms cost/quality, even Cronos with PT5000 movement are much cheaper and keep similar level of finishing.
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 Год назад
Could/would you try a 30.5mm Seiko dial, just to see how it looks?
@bifflee3603
@bifflee3603 Год назад
I have the pd and for the money (£75 in the November sale) I can't fault it
@karlsenula9495
@karlsenula9495 Год назад
I think that is Pagani's niche ... not best quality but great value and specs 'for the price'.
@bigriceburner
@bigriceburner 3 месяца назад
I bought that 1751 for 45.00. Shortly thereafter it went on sale for $42. It's not perfect but it's a lot of watch at that price.
@garyz0611
@garyz0611 Год назад
You made one mistake on the Pagani design as it has sapphire glass on the rear exhibition case not mineral
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Is it really sapphire? Damn...i did not know that! Add 1 point
@garyz0611
@garyz0611 Год назад
@@TheWatcherReviews yes it is. I have seen many other videos where they test it.
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 Год назад
@@TheWatcherReviews add 3 points and deduct 3 points from SM
@ThePrinterPaddy
@ThePrinterPaddy Год назад
I think the SM has a 19mm lug width, not 20, but 20 on the 38mm version
@bfair6284
@bfair6284 Год назад
I was about to say that. Thanks. 👍
@michaelj8793
@michaelj8793 Год назад
Not a huge fan of the design but I am interested in the mod video in the near future Ok I'm done pissin in your ear Killer review as always my friend Stay Frosty 👍
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Hey man, i put some text on screen, its a 30.5mm dial so can't mod using standard seiko dials
@pktsqr
@pktsqr Год назад
I went with the larger of the two San Martin models a couple of months ago, not realizing there was a choice. (I don't think I saw the Pagani option until after I bought it.) But even if I'd had a chance to see both, I would've gladly paid the premium for the better finishing. In my case, that attention to detail followed through to the hands, too. They look much better on my watch than those shown in this video. I wonder if the handsets for the two versions aren't produced under different supervision or something? And zero debris on my dial, and I personally like the matte look for a piece this "exploration"-oriented. Thanks for posting this comparison, as I'd been wondering what the difference in brand/pricing actually worked out to!
@PeterM-PeterM
@PeterM-PeterM 9 месяцев назад
PD is the winner. I just got mine for $50 usd. It is perfect on a brown leather. The black dial is like staring into an abiss... Best $50 i've ever spent. The SM dial looks empty, like something is missing. The seconds hand on the SM is a touch too short.
@christianaviles2199
@christianaviles2199 Год назад
I do agree, that I wish black dial on the San Martin could be a deeper black, but at least on this style watch I'd rather it not be glossy like on the PD. If it was an OP homage sure that glossy deep black dial might be better. But I like the matte look for this "Ranger" field style watch. I just wish the San Martin wasn't quite so grey-ish. Other than that yes the San Martin is clearly better (yes the hands on both could be better although I actually like the seconds hand on the SM with the longer red tip and post that meets purposefully right at the numerals). But as you mention at the "normal" price the SMs are getting a little over priced at least for an AliExpresss brand. I would definitely be patient and get it at sale price though which then makes it a great value. Although AliExpress brands overall still offfer good value even at their standard prices when you consider them to mainstream brands. These watches all punch above their weight when you consider price.
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Yeh not even a glosd black on the SM but a darker black for sure
@schaffelaer1902
@schaffelaer1902 Год назад
Again a SM to waste by that terrible dial.... Simply a deal breaker for me.
@johnmarcroft9016
@johnmarcroft9016 Год назад
Got the PD and worth noting mine came with sapphire glass on case back.
@bfair6284
@bfair6284 Год назад
@The Watcher I totally agree the San Martin hands have tough edges. I bought the 38mm version, the hands were stamped and not polished on the edge, identically rough like yours. The quality of the watch is not anywhere like the ones I saw in the review specimens on major RU-vid channels. A lot of dust on the dial. The worst disappointment of mine is the polish on the bezel. It has brush marks all over the place, pretty much like the pattern you see on the blade of a Japanese sword. Would you tell me if you have the same brush marks on yours? You will have to take a very close look. You won't notice much under soft diffused lighting like from your soft box, but you will see it under strong spot light. That was the thing that destroyed the watch for me. Please let me know. Thanks in advance.
@powerchuffer
@powerchuffer Год назад
Brush marks??? Do you realize it's a brushed bezel and not a polished one?
@drebarthelotte5712
@drebarthelotte5712 Год назад
Both are really good watches at price points. I enjoy both, each looks different. I wouldn't keep them off my wrist. A good day banger that I really like. Or something that is a better watch and is very good compared to what you would pay if swiss. I enjoy these companies because they are trying hard to get a good watch out for two different types of guys. I'm a lume pig
@serkanhamarat
@serkanhamarat Год назад
Shaking your hands too much when holding watches. Try to be steady, we wanna see the products.
@armydave1687
@armydave1687 Год назад
Are you putting your sarb035 dial in the sm ranger case?
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
No, the dial that fits this is 30.5 so not compatible with 28.5mm sizes
@Novica89
@Novica89 8 месяцев назад
I've set the time on my Pagani 3 days ago to be exact as internet time from the PC in a second. Today (3 days after setting it), it is running on +9 seconds. That is CRAAAZY accuracy! +3 seconds a day on average. This is a chronometer
@brianmccord7387
@brianmccord7387 Год назад
Proxima would like a word
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Haha yes just saw their version
@brianmccord7387
@brianmccord7387 Год назад
@@TheWatcherReviews I feel like Proxima has become what I wanted Heimdallr to be, the smart alternative between cheap Pagani and high-end San Martin.
@georgehiphopforever
@georgehiphopforever Год назад
Phylida vs Bliger vs SM vs PD vs Steeldive and winner is...i think Steeldive and Phylida for the money you cant beat them...Nice Review anyway.
@Bullnoseboy
@Bullnoseboy Год назад
the corners being cut by san martin on QC aren't acceptable for the premium they're charging people, seems to be getting worse recently as well
@boma23
@boma23 2 месяца назад
Pagani currently $35 plus shipping. At that price there's no contest...
@bigriceburner
@bigriceburner 12 дней назад
Sapphire on the back now.
@gideonMorrison
@gideonMorrison Год назад
The SM looks like an ugly $50 watch from the shoe store
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 Год назад
SM overpriced piece of shxt!
@francois-florimondfluck3490
Thanks for the vid! Personnaly really dislike some points of the pagani.. I mean, first, the logo, second some inscription like diver on the back, and lastly, japan movt on the dial.. looks fake! nh35 is SII and not made in Japan!
@bensynewsshoedown4999
@bensynewsshoedown4999 Год назад
Each is pitched to a different buyer, based on lower than average and higher than average Chinese homage price points. Excellent comparison, with criticisms of each. Could the PD polished bezel be brushed to an acceptable level, by modders? I'm unsure if anyone did a good job brushing this PD case bezel. Could be a good mod.
@peterzahradnik9323
@peterzahradnik9323 Год назад
If you would compare the SM to the Tu… the Tu would win by maybe 5 points on your scale but how much would you cost then each of this points? 😉 The SM is nearer on the Tu quality wise than the Pagani is to the SM in my eyes. If I compare my SM SN0054-G-B1 to the Tu BB pro than the SM would maybe win by some points. In my eyes SM is in different league than Pagani. Tudor is also in a different league then SM but a SM. But I highly would prefer 1 SM watch over 2 Pagani Designs. But as always to each his own.
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Yeh it is a good point, SM are definitely up there with the case, just wish they made the dial a little nicer
@danieltrzcinski5987
@danieltrzcinski5987 Год назад
In this case PG looks much better than SM
@FocusTvBoy
@FocusTvBoy Год назад
That gray dial kills it for me. Period.
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. Год назад
The San Martin is the way better watch. The use of a polished bezel suggests the Pagani uses an off-the-shelf case. But that specific variant of the San Martin with white hands and sterile dial does nothing for me. Speaking of the San Martin quality. It's a real shame this copy came with debris on the hour hand and the finishing quality of the hands looks nothing like the flawless example they use for their promo pictures.
@ignaciopadilla5150
@ignaciopadilla5150 Год назад
While you were reviewing the watches on your video it seamed you pointed out more points for the Pagani, yet the results made the watch look like garbage. Seemed I was watching the score of a UFC fight that the judges scored it badly
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
Not at all, on the dial the pagani scored more but failed on every other aspect.
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 Год назад
@@TheWatcherReviews you were biased.
@contentconsumer487
@contentconsumer487 9 месяцев назад
Bought them both. I like them both. Would have paid 40.00 more for decent lume on the pagani design. Both companies did a good job. I have no desire to buy a _udor __anger now.
@MuhButtsBeenWiped
@MuhButtsBeenWiped Год назад
The bezel is thinner and the crystal is much better on the san martin. The bracelet clasp and bracelet in general is better than the pagani design.
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 Год назад
fook off Pagani wins as it offers treffic value for money!
@MuhButtsBeenWiped
@MuhButtsBeenWiped Год назад
@jonskitch8082 lmao. You seem to be a bit butthurt over my opinion. . If by "better value" you mean cheaper then yes. A recycled case they use on multiple models, trash finishing and the lume is dog 💩. San martin ftw.
@danieltrzcinski5987
@danieltrzcinski5987 Год назад
In this case PG looks much better than SM
@MuhButtsBeenWiped
@MuhButtsBeenWiped Год назад
@danieltrzcinski5987 yup, looks are subjective. I like the san martin because it actually has a ranger style case instead of a recycled explorer/OP case. To each their own.
@thegorn
@thegorn Год назад
Are these COSC or METAS certified? lol just kidding. Pretty sweet pieces though.
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews Год назад
🤣🤣 you had me going there
@borisstepanyan9611
@borisstepanyan9611 Год назад
Sm best
@scatterbrain9490
@scatterbrain9490 Год назад
👍
@pellelarsson6887
@pellelarsson6887 Год назад
Always bad lume on the hand of the pagani. Will they never learn.
@TorreyS8809
@TorreyS8809 Год назад
Opinion: I never prefer an exhibition caseback on a generic NH35
@lucipantea653
@lucipantea653 9 месяцев назад
Pagani design has sapphire glass on the back my friend not mineral, check it don't stop talking if you don't know.
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews 9 месяцев назад
Dont stop talking? No it doesn't man. Even if it does, ok i missed it. Don't get rude muppet 🤜🏽 let's fight. 1 uppercut to the moon 🌙 goodnight
@zillsburyy1
@zillsburyy1 Год назад
san martin is always better
@gideonMorrison
@gideonMorrison Год назад
Big no
@jonskitch8082
@jonskitch8082 Год назад
lol
@bigriceburner
@bigriceburner 12 дней назад
I’m curious as to why you would assume that since they are from China they are not tested. Do you not see the inherent racism in a comment like that? I say this as an African-American in the United States of America facing what I face on a daily basis, I mean you know malice but please think before you speak. These people may very well test to the ninth degree and you would never question anything out of Japan would you...... Shiko etc.
@TheWatcherReviews
@TheWatcherReviews 12 дней назад
Calm down man, who mentioned race? The point is, it's a £90 watch with minimal cost. Therefore, they won't test everyone on the WR, lots of watches fail as only the case is tested, not post assembly. Which is why when it's a brand like seiko, they test all watches. Higher end chinese watches will also be tested. Why in the world would you take this as racism and what has being an African American got anything to do with it? 👆
@bigriceburner
@bigriceburner 12 дней назад
@@TheWatcherReviews I'm calm. You see, I see many videos that will say "these watches are all made in the same factory" or in this instant, "I seriously doubt these have been water tested" when in truth as I sit, unless you're working in the factory alongside them, how could any of you know anything about thier level of watchmaking sophistication? And as I said, these things would never come in question if the watches were created in say, a European country, or as stated Japan.. Seiko. The black man part comes in from my seeing what in politics in my country.. USA, as dogwhistles. Spoken or written word insinuating a group of individuals as being lesser, without actually saying it outloud. I believe that we are lucky to be able to get what we want at decent pricing. Please don't misunderstand me, it was not my intent to seem out of bounds. I have respect for what they do for us. Have a good evening.
@terrencestone3938
@terrencestone3938 Год назад
There's something about most of the PD watches that make them look like cheap low quality toys where the SM watches are high quality and look way above what they cost. SM wins again here.
@kengachira
@kengachira Год назад
PD slightly looks better and seems to have greater value
@TheCuckinfrazy
@TheCuckinfrazy Год назад
San Martin is much better
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