The fact that someone like you who have owned several rolexes (and still does?) vouches and personally owns and enjoys various budget watches really says something about their appeal and quality.
Thank you for watching Firdaus. I sold my Rolex Submariner this year. I get more feel good factor from wearing the 6 pieces in this collection. Regards, #WR4K
Gotta tell you, I laughed along with you on your 3 month decision making process on your new SN008G... it's nice to know other collectors are just like me! My Dad used to say that 90% of the fun in acquiring things is in the 'research' ; he was absolutely correct. Thanks for the SOTC, great video.
Love the simplicity of just the shield logo on the Air King homage minus the branding that I just ordered 1.Thank you John for your indepth sharing on your collection!
Thank you for watching Lawrence. Agreed, the shield looks much better than the text logo. Congratulations. Excellent choice. Wear yours in good health. Regards, #WR4K
A LOT of changes in the collection over the last 6 months! Definitely a couple of pieces in there that I like - the blue Tudor homage and the Speedmaster homage. I agree that the oyster style bracelet should be preferred over the multi-link bracelet from Omega. Thanks for sharing.
It must be a universal experience to add a watch to your cart just to take it out again for weeks on end. On your recommendation, I received my SN020-G and have absolutely enjoyed it thoroughly so far. Appreciate your videos!
Videos like these are sublimely relaxing. Hearing you celebrate your watch journey, talking about the feel-good factor as the most important aspect of watch collecting, it's quite wholesome. The voice of this video feels more joyful and happy over the other more purposely critical reviews. I salute you for having me buy the sn020-g2 limited blue and sn006-g2 black. And motivating me to research San Martin to buy my sn059 v2 white Mop. What's next?
Thank you for watching Yannick. Glad you enjoyed it. I am feeling satisfied with my current collection. The only piece I fancy is the new SN004-G Limited Edition blue being released in July. I reviewed the black version as you know, and really liked it. I am considering changing my blue SN008-G to it as I prefer the gear tooth bezel on the 004 to the coin edge bezel on the 008. However it has the "S" crown rather than hex. So I need to review it and then compare both on wrist to make my mind up. Regards, #WR4K
A true pleasure to see the current SOTC. All pieces that I currently own, and/or would own. I've found the PD-1692 "Ver-WR4K," black dial, to be a piece that I cannot take off my wrist. I've very much bonded w/ it. In fact, when considering the purchase of it, I considered the SN020-G, black dial variant, as well. I 100% agree that the PD-1692 "Air King," is a much more appealing watch, than the Rolex variant, that it is homaged to. As such, I am considering purchasing it, as well, sometime in the near future. Finally, I think it would be a great idea, if Pagani Design, were to sell the mirror-polished "PD" logo shield, for collectors to upgrade the dials, of previously purchased, Pagani Design models. Watches produced prior to the implementation, of the mirror-polished, shield logo. Maybe sell them in singles, bundles of 3, and also 10. A range of options. Do you think this possible, and if so, would you consider recommending it to the factory??? Thanks for sharing your collection. Very enjoyable to watch. Cheers...
Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. "Do you think this possible, and if so, would you consider recommending it to the factory??? " No. Regards, #WR4K
Wow, how did I miss this channel, it’s the best info for homage watches I’ve ever seen. I’m going to be selling loads of my homage watches which are mainly Pagani Design which are good but still need tweaking and all this new version business isn’t for the customers benefit but more their bottom line. I have a 2015 Speedy and when I compare my Pagani classic black, my blue Panda face and Sedna gold homage they seem to fall short in the satisfaction department and was considering selling all bar my Omega Speedmaster and buying some super clones but after finding this excellent watch channel I’ll watch many more vids before making any decision. That blue San Martin at the start of the video was a stunning piece of horological beauty. 😎👌
Hi sir, I've just recently bought a San Martin 62mas 37mm homage and it's great I like it more than my oris diver65 and my Longines I just think I enjoy wearing cheaper watches I don't feel worried and as you know SM are great watches and good quality carry on with your great videos
My June 2022 SOTC is less one watch compared to yours. Got 3 pieces affordable from PD and 2 pieces of daily beater from Benyar.. But you've got their more luxury Chinese collection from SM.. Nice collection IMHO.. Keep it coming and have a nice day!
Imagine that snowflake tudor sub homage with a more curved all brushed case, and grey faded aluminium bezel insert. Would be perfect, and i agree a blue version would also be amazing.
I bought a Sugess Ocean Star and the quality is exceptional for a £160 watch. Bought it after purchasing the Sugess version of the Sea-Gull 63 Panda Column Wheel Swan Neck Regulator Chronograph which again is a really nice watch and minus the Chinese Dial lettering of the 21 Zuan (Jewel) and also with a beautiful premium leather strap. Just received my Pagani 1701 V3 Speedmaster and it is a fantastic watch. I too have the Daytona Homage by Pagani and am looking into their Milgauss Homage at the moment which looks great as well as the Planet Ocean and also the Pagani Sea Dweller Homage in half bezel Blue Bottle green. Some extremely well made homage watches available at this moment, great days to be a watch collector with the excellent craftsmanship coming out of China. I have 3 MWC (Military Watch Company) Tritium watches which are beautiful too though not exactly homages but not far off. Made in Zurich with Japanese Seiko movements, Quartz or Mechanical, Sapphire Crystals, Ceramic Bezels and very well priced at around £250 to £350. Only down side are the pressed clasps but they are well engineered for non milled pieces. I have a Tag F1 Maclaren Anniversary Edition which cost me over £3,000 and a few other higher end pieces but my Homage watches get just as much love. Great channel and your macro camerawork setup is top quality. Sharp, in focus and well lit, many other 'bigger' watch channels don't offer the same visual quality that you do. With fine watches, it is all about the fine detail. Any watch looks good to a blindman on a galloping horse but closeups of every detail of a watch is essential to me. With some camera work, you wouldn't see any difference between a 'WhoFlungDung' £15 lookey likey or a genuine Tudor Black Bay 😂.
San Martin are doing so well, love my ones. Surprised by Pagani, will give them another look, that AirKing does look better than the Roller, as you said, totally agree.
I love your reviews. One question if I may ask is what kind of light the videos are filmed in? It seems as if maybe it’s a fluorescent bright white light. I thought at first the videos were shot in black and white instead of color. Perhaps if a warm white bulb were used, it would show the watches in a more natural light. Anyway, keep making these excellent videos! I’ve been interested in buying either a San Martin or Pagani watch for some time and your reviews have helped me to see whether they look cheap or, instead, expensive. I see now, thanks to you, the latter is the case. Thank you! Cheers!
See my recent videos, I have upgraded my studio lighting. I used to use two soft boxes with 65 watt 5500K LED lights. I now use three soft boxes with 125 watt 5500K LED lights. Yes, 2700K would be warmer; but not bright enough. 5500K is colder, but is brighter; so shows the watches better in 4K. Regards, #WR4K
Got my 1701 V3 a couple of days ago. I'm going to put a MilTat RAF N7 3-D Woven nylon nato strap,matte black with sand blasted ladder lock slider buckle. Comfortable strap and looks amazing. I prefer Nylon/Perlon straps in the warmer months.
Thank you for watching Adam. I have reviewed over 300 watches, so get to experience different watches every week when reviewing them. This makes it easier to keep to a 6 piece collection. In the last 2 years I have experimented with different size collections; 3, 2, and 1; but I got bored of wearing the same watch daily. I find 6 is a nice size collection as it has enough variety. I will sometimes wear a watch for a week, then change to another one for a week. Regards, #WR4K
I bought the sn006-g2 instead of 008 especially for similar reasons. It doesn't look too much like any existing diver watches on the market so there's less of a homage feel it but more of an inspired/borrowed one.
Hi sir how are you I've just purchased a San Martin 37mm 62 mas homage I think it's the best watch I have I love wearing it and I'm wondering why I need to spend more money on watches I spent abit more cause I went for the SW200 version . Is it just our ego that we spend lots of money on watches ,if you can get this San Martin in your hand and see what you think . Take care
Great choices! I would love to see you review the MoonsSwatch. One thing that bugs me with dive watch bezels is the ten seconds marks. I look for symmetry more than I need to be alerted about resurfacing on a dive. I do know how to count to ten.
Thank you for watching K. I would like to review a MoonSwatch. Unfortunately we don't have any Swatch boutiques in Ireland, and they aren't available online. If they do become available online later I will buy one for review. Regards, #WR4K
The SN 020 -G is a stunning watch John. I believe it is sold out, and currently selling for considerably more on Chrono24. I’ve been looking to buy one. The new San Martin 0103-G is another home run from the brand. I just received the MOP SN017-G And I absolutely love it. I’m currently wearing the Blue Bezel Blue Dial version on Nato. Your collection is excellent by the way. Kind Regards, Steven
Thank you for watching Steven. The SN020-G Limited Edition is currently available on Watchdives for 258 USD (see link below). You can use the "WR4K" 10 USD discount code. Regards, #WR4K watchdives.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/san-martin-explorer-sn020-limited-edition?variant=41239090888857
I love your collection. I have the same sn020 LE to, and i own a sn009 g from San Martin. What i realy would like is a sn020 LE in cherry red sunburst or fume dial. I think that watch would be a bestseller.
Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. I sold my 116610LN and bought a 124300 Oyster Perpetual 41, then sold it and bought a 124060 Submariner. Regards, #WR4K
I just bought the SN020 -G in Tiffany blue, it's my first San Martin! I was worried it was going to sell out, they are getting low. At first I was going to get a Seestern GS Seiko homage in Tiffany blue, but changed my mind at the last minute. I hope I didn't make a mistake.
Thank you for watching Matt. Glad you enjoyed it. I have posted a picture of it on my Community page. Yes, I will review it when its released in July. Regards, #WR4K
Please , showing the San Martin limited edition is torture. I think there's a similar model available but with a different movement YN55(?). I bought the Gnomon snowflake after seeing your recommendation ( wanted to experience a Steinhart) & am enjoying the watch immensely ( I thank you but my accountant..er...). I too would like San Martin to offer their piece in blue with patina indices & hands but I'm also interested in the Tactical Frog upcoming version you posted a snap of. Regards.
Thank you for watching Jay. My SN020-G also uses the YN55A. The YN55A is the same as the Epson F6922 used in many Orient watches including the Kamasu; so its well proven. See the video below comparing the YN55A to the NH35A. Regards, #WR4K ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LCFI7GP54ls.html
Hello, great content as always ! I'm wondering how do you send Pagani Design querries about watches ? I'd really much like to have this PD-1701 in Yellow 18k gold plated but unfortunately it's not available
Great collection... Have there been any changes since June? Everyone and his dog is doing an aliexpress 11/11 sale video... is there anything you have your eye on? I think we have similar tastes so you'll save me time doing a video on it! 😀
Yes, see my August SOTC review below. Just the SN004-G Milsub which I have incoming this week. (See my Community page post). Regards, #WR4K ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JVWxPpXukbM.html
I like the Pagani air king, same as you never liked the Rolex version I won’t buy a watch unless you say it’s a champagne watch for lemonade money. Been had before with watch reviews telling you it’s the next best thing since sliced bread Still wish San Martin would do something about their logo, it’s the only thing putting me off buying one
An interesting collection. Have you finished with the more expensive brands? Especially with what is available at present. If so is that because of the price to value equation? A really good vid.
Thank you for watching Martin. Glad you enjoyed it. "Have you finished with the more expensive brands?" Yes. "If so is that because of the price to value equation?" No. I dislike the image Rolex, and the Submariner now has; hence selling my 2021 one this year. I also abhor the Rolex AD waiting list nonsense. Also having drive 2 hours (108 miles) to my nearest AD to have an extra link fitted to my Submariner. With my Oyster Perpetual 41 they posted it and I fitted it myself. Now they make one present the piece at the AD. I dislike the image of wearing a social media hyped investment piece, that is flipped at profit on the grey market. When I bought my first Submariner 14060M 24 years ago, there was none of that waiting list nonsense. My feeling about the brand really changed when wearing my Hulk in 2018. I could never relax and enjoy wearing it due to it being an investment piece that was appreciating in value. So it had low feel good factor as a result. With a San Martin, or Pagani Design, one can wear the watch hard and not care about damaging it as they are inexpensive to replace; thus the feel good factor is higher. As stated in my previous SOTC reviews; I see the Submariner as a 2000 Euro watch, which isn't worth the current 14,000 Euro grey market value. The truth is I enjoy my current 6 pieces more than I did my Submariner. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Such a good and nailed statement about watch collecting! A 30 Euro Casio can e.g. deliver more enjoyment than a 15.000 Euro Rolex, that is often only worn for "social status" (humans...). Your channel is splendid! Dankeschön!
Thanks for the great reply. I can understand your sentiments regarding Rolex. Although I don’t have one or plan to even attempt to get one with the current situation.
I am very similar to you in taste but when I look at your watches they are exactly the same as mine they have clean dials they don't have extra Bologna and and they have a clean look to them that nobody else has. I'm car guy and watches that are simple hit the spot
I love my Pagani Design PD-1692 Air King homage...except for the terrible micro-adjust and divers extension. I have no idea how to adjust the micro - adjust and you need the Jaws of Life to even attempt the divers extension. The micro-adjust holes--if you can even call them that--are barely dimples, and you can't even access them. What was Pagani Design thinking?
I have the pagani hulk homage and I completely agree with you on the diver extension, it's so tight that I need a small screwdriver to pry it open. The micro adjusts aren't that bad as long as you have a bracelet sizing tool, but the unfortunate problem is you need to open the diver extension to access them, which in our case is a major pain in the ass given how hard it is to open the extension.
Thank you for watching Carlo. Check out the Relio Soltice red version. See link below. I previously reviewed the teal version and was really impressed with it. Regards, #WR4K reliowatches.com/products/solstice-red
Thank you for watching David. I appreciate the suggestion. I am often asked to review Sugess watches. I asked them to send me pieces for review. Unfortunately they said no. Regards, #WR4K
WR4K, do you know if the bracelet of the PD-1667, would fit the case of the PD-1679, correctly??? IMHO, this would create one of the best looking, and most accurate "Planet Ocean" style homages, on the market to date. An accurate bracelet version, anyway. I would very much like to try this combo, but I am no sure if the components would mesh correctly. Any advice you could offer in said area, would be much appreciated. Cheers...
I haven't tried a 1667 bracelet on a 1679; but the lug profiles are similar, so I think the end links will fit the case. The only problem could be the spring bar holes may be in a different position. Agreed, this would look excellent. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k My thoughts, exactly. To my eye, the lug profiles, are very similar. My only concern, would be the spring bar alignment....or lack thereof. TY for you time, and consideration, in this matter.
Thank you for watching Paul. I like the applied hex, however I appreciate this is subjective. Many collector prefer the printed hex, as per the 004 Limited Edition. I am looking forward to seeing the white printed hex on my blue 004 Limited Edition. Regards, #WR4K
I'm planning to purchase a 1701 V3, but unfortunately I'm not a man well endowed in the wrist section. Do you think the 1701's original bracelet can fit a 5.5"-6" wrist?
Thank you for watching. 6.5" is the minimum the bracelet can be sized down to. I think the 42mm would feel too large and top heavy on a 6" wrist. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k Thank you for the reply. I personally own a 1651 Yachtmaster Homage that fits me quite well with a nato strap. Would you say the 1701 wears noticeably heavier/bigger on the wrist compared to the 1651
Similar heft on the bracelet, however it looks and feels wider on wrist. On a strap it feels top heavy. On the bracelet its better balanced; but the problem is it doesn't size down to a 6" wrist. So if you have a 6-6.5" wrist it will be hard to get the right fit. Really it best fits a 7-8" wrist. Regards, #WR4K
Out of curiosity - as someone viewing your channel for first time - you have obviously owned some Rolex etc in past, and you clearly enjoy the design of the major luxury brands (Rolex, Tudor, Omega) - so why not buy the originals? Even if it means taking longer to own, or only have 2-3 of them? Is it simply a financial call? Or something more? Cheers.
I bought my first Submariner 14060M when I was 21. In the last 24 years of collecting I have owned several Submariner, and Submariner Date's. I sold my 2021 124060 this year. I dislike the Rolex AD waiting list nonsense. With my Oyster Perpetual 41 my Rolex AD posted the 2 extra bracelet links I needed. With my Submariner I had to travel 120 miles to my AD to have a link fitted as they changed their policy and no longer post links. I dislike the brand image Rolex now has, and the image the Submariner has as a social media hyped investment piece which is flipped on the grey market at profit. When I was 19 I saved up for 2 years as a University student to afford the £2500 needed to buy a pre-owned 14060M. Back then there was no Rolex AD waiting list nonsense, and the Submariner was freely available at AD's. I wore the watch hard the same as a low-tier piece. I didn't care about scratching it as I didn't see it as an investment that would be devalued by damage. With my Hulk in 2018 I could never relax and enjoy wearing it as it was appreciating rapidly in value. I was conscious that any scratches to it would devalue it. I sold it after 8 months. I also disliked wearing a watch that was being hyped on social media, as it looked like I bought it as an investment, rather than buying it because I was a collector that liked the watch. I prefer wearing homage watches as I can relax and wear them hard as per my first Submariner. They aren't investments that appreciate in value; therefore I don't worry about devaluing them with scratches. If I damage one, I can just buy another and its posted to me within 2 weeks. No AD waiting list nonsense. They also come with enough links to fit my 8" wrist; so no need to order a link and travel 120 miles to my nearest AD to have one fitted. I never bought a Rolex to be accepted into a Rolex fanboy fraternity, or feed my ego on my channel. I am secure and don't care what Rolex fanboys think of the watches I own. With regards to Tudor, and Omega. I have previously owned a Black Bay, and 2500 Planet Ocean. I disliked the thickness of the Black Bay. The current Planet Ocean is too thick so I don't want one. I get feel good factor from wearing my homage watches. I didn't get that feel good factor from wearing my 2021 124060. Regards, #WR4K
@@watchreviews4k cheers for that. Really interesting to hear your journey. And refreshing to see someone genuinely illustrating joy in the hobby is not (or should not) be about price or even brand - but the watch itself. I’ve never much warmed to homages but not for the reason so many on YT spout on about - more because I find joy in less celebrated design languages from brands like Sinn, Oris, Seiko or Nomos. These designs are rarely homaged, or if they are (Seiko) the price differential is so insignificant as to steer me to the original creator (usually more for the ability to buy in store and have peace of mind over fit and guarantee etc). I did own a Steinhart GMT ocean 39 for a period but sold for the same reasons (straight lugs) but also the handset looked flat and cheap. Did have my eye on the Sugess Top Time homage chronograph at one point, perhaps I’ll pull the trigger and see what all the fuss is about with AliExpress.
Are you referring to San Martin, or Pagani Design guarantees? I will advise on both anyway. If you are concerned about a guarantee on San Martin watches I recommend purchasing from watchdives.com (use the "WR4K" 10 USD discount code). Reason being they cover the watch with a 3 year warranty, rather than the usual 2 year warranty from San Martin. For Pagani Design I recommend Amazon, as the purchase is covered by the Amazon A-to-z guarantee when purchasing from a third party. The problem with the Pagani Design 12 month guarantee when purchasing from an AliExpress store is one is at the mercy of the respective reseller. Some offer partial refunds, some offer full refunds, some offer no refund. The AliExpress dispute process is only valid within 15 days from the order closing. You can open a dispute on the 11th day after seller has sent out your order and within 15 days of the orders completion. The problem with that is if your watch develops a defect on the 16th day onwards you cannot claim a refund via the dispute process. In the case of a warranty return, you the buyer will pay for the return shipping to China which is non-refundable. For example you would pay circa 20 Euro for tracked return shipping on a 100 Euro piece. The negative of buying from Amazon versus AliExpress is the watches cost more. For example a 100 Euro Pagani Design on AliExpress will be 130 Euro on Amazon. However it may be worth paying the extra 30 Euro in order to have the A-to-z guarantee cover. The build quality, Quality Control, reliability; of San Martin watches are higher than Pagani Design watches. The 2 year San Martin warranty is better than the Pagani Design 12 month warranty. Same applies to purchasing a San Martin from Watchdives, or San Martin Official Store. Generally they will offer to supply the replacement part, and pay for your local watchmaker to repair. If that isn't viable, they offer a refund or replacement piece when the defective one is returned. With Pagani Design resellers they will typically offer a partial refund and you keep the defective watch. Regards, #WR4K
IT'S SO TEMPTING HAVING RECENTLY ORDERED 5 PAGANI WITH TWO ALREADY IN MY COLLECTION AT RIDICULOUS PRICES. INCLUDING 1664 IN RUBBER STRAP SIMILAR TO THIS WATCH. I THINK I WILL SKIP THIS WATCH CONSIDERING I HAVE 13 OTHER WATCHES IN MY CAT.
Have you ever noticed that in the Daytona watch the chronograph was spelled CHRON0GRAPH. I am not sure it if it's a typo that they used "0" (zero) instead of O. I wanted to pick that up but I held off because of it. Stunning watch regardless hope they'll fix that typo.
Agree whole heartily about 20 -16 .Infact I won't make a purchase if it 20-18 or just straight from top to bottom .Also using the word abhorrent is a little extreme & way over used in this video
I have the PD moonwatch on the original bracelet and I have hairy arms, but no problem at all with hair catching issues. So there must be at least two different varieties of hair.... So to say that this watch needs a different bracelet is not true for everybody with hairy arms.
Don't tell people how tight they should wear their watches. Some like them tight, some like them very loose, some like them slightly loose. Some like them left of the knuckle, some like them past the knuckle. Don't try to convince people of wearing their watches how they like them to be worn.
There you go again. Like I don't know how it feels to wear a watch when the air is heating up... I am wraring watches for 60 years now. From the north of Scotland in the winter to the heat of Africa in the summer. I am happy you are happy. You wear your watches just how you like and so do I. Thank you very much...!
Am I missing something here? Is this subtle trolling? The watch case. The gloves. Calling these Chinese 'homage' (aka rip-off fakes) watches 'pieces'. This isn't for real is it? I'm all for high value watches, don't get me wrong, but for the money they want for these wrist worn law suits, you could get some amazing watches from proper value manufacturers. These look like toys you'd get for kids that want to look like they're wearing daddies Rolex. The Chinese really are shameless in their copying culture.
Yes, you are missing something. I have previously owned (from new) : Rolex Submariner, Sea Dweller, Daytona, plus various Tudor, Tag Heuer and Breitling. I have also owned a pre-owned 18ct DayDate, so I feel qualified to offer an opinion on the 'quality' and ownership experience of these brands. Having recently sold the last of my Rolex's , the Daytona for £20k (having bought it new for £3,600) and recently discovering the world of homage watches, I can guarantee you that there is very little difference in terms of enjoyment between owning the original versus the best of the homage equivalents. Unless you have owned both, any criticism is worthless. I too own the PD Air King and Daytona models reviewed in this video and love them. My Cronos Sub homage is wonderful and am currently awaiting the arrival of the San Martin Datejust model. If you only enjoy owning the 'original' versions, then fine. Enjoy. But don't criticise others who derive similar enjoyment from the homage versions. And don't assume that owners only buy them because they cannot afford the originals. I for one, will never overpay for an 'original' again. Homage watches are the future for me!
