Battlefield 2042 ► 6 Ways To Deal With Helicopters Effectively 

To boil this down, our options are to Counter them with a jet/heli/wildcat/rail tank (of which, only the wildcat is relatively easy to use). Which you don't have the option of doing if none of those vehicles are available. Use Lis TVGM or Recoiless. Both of which take a ton of skill to be effective with. I get that good pilots should be rewarded for their skill. But the complete lack of effective counters for your average infantry player is beyond frustrating.

The fact that AA missiles are a last resort is just plain dumb. Since they limit them to engineers now too few carry them and they don't do enough damage unless your entire squad takes them. That why good pilots are feasting right now. There is no effective counter as infantry. If your wildcat is on cooldown your team is screwed.

If the only real effective counters are other vehicles, which are not available in every game mode, or relying on mastering the TV missle than I don't know how you can look at that objectively and say "helis are not OP, people just don't know how to counter them." The fact that AA missiles are not even an actual option unless the entire team is using them, which we know isn't happening, then it needs to be acknowledged they are OP. The other thing that is not mentioned in this video is that not only does countering them force a specific play style that is not desirable to many, as an infantry player you effective have zero consistent options to counter attack or stealth helis. Someone going 100-0 or whatever isn't simply a showcase of skills, it is effectively showing that what they are doing has so few effective counters that they can literally just farm the lobby without a lot of worry. If the counter vehicles are on cooldown, if someone else in in them, as an infantry player you have one option that not only takes skill, but also luck against above average players, and it forces you to direct 100% of your attention to doing that one task, so while you are trying to take down an attack heli, the enemy team can farm you because your attention isn't on them, or they can push the objectives which still puts your team in a compromised position. Nothing in the game should be so effective that someone can post a potential triple digit KD, or average a double digit KD while playing. That isn't balanced and to complain that the railgun tank is oppressive to helis is a joke compared to what attack and stealth helis do to infantry.

It's telling that even in this video all of the liz missile kills are against pilots that are completely oblivious and not taking evasive action at all.

They need to do what they did in BF 4 , 1 rocket launcher hit and its gone , any type of Helis/Jets and with any Anti Air Missile it took only 2 shots. Clearly the helis are OP in 2042.

They should just make flares have ammunition. Say you pop it 5 times then ur out. Could take it a step further and have vehicle resupply in center of map would give more incentive for ppl to pto.

They should give the helis a limited amount of flares, maybe make them like the tank shells were in BF4 where you get a cooldown after firing all your shells. Or maybe force then to go back to a helipad at spawn to road them.

Before these options you need to mention 3 things: Pilots use the latency to glitch out the hitbox ( If it looks like your shot hit, you see the particles but no hitmarker ) when you use any kind of rocket - reportable and bannable ( i really do not care, if you use a glitch to your advantage you own your deed ). 2nd thing, pilots take advantage of the AA missle launcher bug that does not lock onto them, and 3rd thing, as a pilot you can get onto a lower altitude and any lock you have on, either put by Air, ground ( dart or rocket ) or ground vehicles. This combined with the other 2 glitches people use gives any bird almost invicibility. There are massive fundamental technical problems with the little birds ( and stealth choppers but to a lesser extent ). At this time there is absolutely no effective and open counter what so ever because everything else is extremely limited or downright broken. Edit: Reporting people abusing glitches needs to be a normal thing... it's there for a reason. It's not reserved for pilots, but it's mostly used on idiotic pilots.

Also using the javelin or stinger makes you a huge target for the heli pilot, it's so easy to pinpoint your location once you fire a missile, and once the helicopter flares go up they could go straight for you and eliminate the annoyence

An underrated method is a bipodded LMG with AP rounds. I was playing a round on Stranded with a very busy Nightbird holding a majority, I found some good spots to give him grief & we ended up turning the round around after that While you probably won't down them, you're resetting their repair counter and chipping away to the point a missile might finish them off, and making them sweat a little. You can be very nimble and if played right you can easily switch targets to infantry and still hold them off too. Additionally you don't have to wait for a tank or miss a gadget

One underutilized method of dealing with armor (including air) is the under-barrel armor-penetrating grenades. The armor don't see any lock ons, they reload faster than recoiless and deal more damage faster.

Thanks for sharing, I'm new to the Battlefield saga, the fact that there are vehicles with unlimited health and ammunition blows my mind, many games are unplayable, and looking at this guide you could almost deduce that the only effective way to fight vehicles is with vehicles... well... wow

Also (after some leveling) the LATV with the 50mm is a chopper killer. You are more likely to find one than a Wildcat.

Lis nerf and broken heli below radar allowed Silk to get a world record of 218-0. That's an amazing feat but highlights how unbalanced the inf vs. heli is. Not just anyone can get 200 but there's masses of pilots who go 50-100 every match. Skill should be rewarded but is this state intended? Breakthrough only has transport heli so that's one option.

How ridiculous is it that the Anti Air weapon isn't an Anti Air. And that's gotten worse since the Class Update as there are no Class Synergies with launchers anymore, Sundance, Rao & Angel don't have access to them anymore, which relegates using the AA launcher to a squad with at least 2 launchers an Angel & preferably a Rao. Which is ridiculous.

The only counter to helis are wildcats. And even then, the wildcat will be on cooldown, camping on spawn, or a Loadout not fitted for anti air (40/50mm cannon, AG missiles...) So really, there's literally no effective counter against air vehicles other than another air vehicles, which is ridiculous. 1- Stingers are useless. They are extremely easy to avoid and do little to no damage. 2- Liz is NOW useless since they went overboard with the nerf. Now it is hard to even hit a transport heli, let alone an agile little bird and stealth chopper. Not to mention, even when the rocket was "op", that was not a real counter. Why? It wasn't a one hit kill, and it requires as much luck and skill to hit a chopper. So again, not a real counter, never was. 3- Hacking is useless, since for some fucking reason when a chopper is hacked they can still deploy flares which makes no sense. 4- Tagging them with a soflam is useless since you are essentially relaying on teammates to notice that a heli is tagged, and them to have a javelin or an M5. And even then, you can still use flares to counter it. 5- Because of the dumb vehicle spawn system/restriction (where you need to be dead first to use them, essentially encouraging players to wait on the spawn screen), even if you try to use a wildcat with an AA Loadout, 9/10 you won't be able to do so. 6- More importantly, there should be a dedicated AA vehicle, instead on relying on the wildcat, how it use to work in every other battlefield ever. There's no reason to use a wildcat with AA Loadout, since it will then be extremely vulnerable to every other land vehicle/ infantry.

I love the recoiless. My best time using it (keep in mind imma beginner) was when I sniped a fighter jet that ran straight at me. Best moment ever

IMO the EMKV90-TOR has kind of a trade-off going on, as it requires learning to acquire an air-target and pre-aim/pre-fire. So low flying helicopters, trying to make use of the "below radar" thing, will have to take the TOR into consideration as a good TOR player will easily take them out. It's basically skill vs skill, as the elevation angles of the TOR are horrendously bad, so no real AA alterantive as a minor elevation advantage against a good pilot, as they can make the railgun useless with a high approach angle almost, which almost always guarantees a kill on the tank. If the TOR is "OP" because it requires skill advantage from the helicopter pilots, one could argue that the helis are "OP" because they cannot easily be countered by ground players.

Secret military tactic: Run and Hide

New-ish player here - I was using the Lissiles HELLA wrong, but thanks to your guide, it was just what I needed to deal with those pesky helos. In one play session alone, I took out three of those accursed things with Lissiles, which was more than the entirety of the time I'd spent playing 2042. It's not often that I see a gaming guide that has useful tips, but yours were, so cheers.

Before the patch that put specialist into classes I would run Sundance with AA missile fake out the helis with my special Grande's and while their Flairs were on CD I'd get a guaranteed hit with my AA.

I have said it since BF3. The choppers should have to land at base to reload weapons. Tanks should have limited shells too.

Perhaps in a future version or release, air vehicles should have to go back to base to refuel/re-arm their ammunition. Then they wouldn't have unlimited flares and would not be able to harrass as much. Plus it would offset engies having very few rockets. Would people mind this nerf?

You could use Irish, drop trophy systems around you, preferably one placed at a higher point, and use a bolt or a jeep (you'll most likely die but it's better than nothing) or a MAV's 30mm cannon. That can really hurt choppers. 50mm too for the jeeps and MAVs. It takes a bit to get used to but those can be very effective anti-air counters. There are flak pods too and that canister shot can be effective on pilots.

Good setup for the aa wildcat is the aa cannons like ghost said, agm to defend your self against ground vehicles, and for the utility equip the thermal smoke discharge pretty much works like flares you have to wait till it says incoming missile pop it then the missile won't hit

Very good info to have! I’ve seen the heli issue, and gave up on the Liz rockets, until now. Appreciate the tips!

They should have AA canons at points you capture and at home base. V style

Great thanks. I jumped in a rail gun tank to deal with a nightbird harassing a point but realized I couldn’t aim high enough 😅

I personally find jets one of the most reliable counters to the nightbird, except the obvious Wildcat AA. If i manage to annoy them particularly in a plane, they'll try to shoot at me, which more often than not, gives me an an easy shot for the 25mm to hit right into their cockpit, sometimes even shooting the pilot out on the first run Even though the spread of the main gun makes it pretty hard, the jets 25mm is one of the best counters for helicopters i've found, especially since the jets' flight ceiling and turn stability got buffed lately

Thanks man! Other content creators seem to be more focused on world records than actually teaching something useful xD

HAHA, the anti-aircraft missiles are by far the worst option for anti-air. That checks out, lol. I regularly use Liz or the Recoiless. And I find that if you run zig-zag toward the heli, they have a harder time tracking you and killing you, giving you a better chance of getting to cover, vs running away.

Did you try the eblc-ram with missiles? Some seam to be effective against Helis. I tried it and haven't been very successful.

Hi Ghost! Love the content keep it up 👍 One thing i have noticed is when frinds join on you on ps5 someone in our party gets booted from the game, this is very annoying so if you could raise this issue so dice can fix this bug would be great! Cheers have a great day.

They should make the AA missile work like it did in BF3/4 as the IGLA. Fire and forget but also guided so long as you maintain visual tracking. That would be a great counter to overpowered helo pilots as they can't simply flare and escape. Doesn't help that they nerfed Rao and made it so he can't carry the AA missile any longer.

Yall, this is the strategy with AA missiles, coming from someone with a lot of AA kills. Lock on to them Hold lock without firing Wait for them to get nervous and dump flares Quickly acquire relock Fire as quickly as the relock happens and you’re clear of obstructions They will be in the 10 second flare cooldown period and bam a solid hit every time, just make sure you have a clear shot so they can’t dive below too far.

Great video mate, the key to success is often a combination of defence such as a hit with Lizzile, wildcat pressure and Sundance grenades and as best an second equal air vehicle e knowledge ing the problem - so its a healthy team mentality effort

Dealing with stealth choppers is always a pain, some people just sit in the stealth mode the hole round and drop cluster HE If the one wildcat is occupied by a Noob or a Camper, you literally have no options besides trying to fire LISsles, RPGs/M5s or poking it with a Railgun

Try sniping the pilots out with the rorsche (rail gun). Get a big scope, and train your aim. A lot of times pilots are too still when over an objective and it’s easy money for you

Does anyone else have an issue with unlocking the rail gun tank? When playing the ps4 version on my ps5 I did everything it required to unlock but for some reason I have yet to unlock it and use it idk what to do anymore, I really want to use it but I can’t unless I some how steal it which is really rare to happen.

Best one for me gotta be the sniper/railgun thingy

There’s another method which requires dart gun or SOFLAM. This is incredibly effective but it require teamwork.

Good vid man. Hope this helps the newer fellas.

after last update controlling jets became so bad, especially when zooming on enemy vehicles, it’s too hard to stay on target. Can you please tell me sensivity settings and any other settings for jets for better controlling and targetting or can you please make a video for this. PLEASE.

Pro tip. Wildcat AA setup. Lock missile. Fire one. Switch to guns. Full auto till over heat. Switch to remaining missile. Lock. Fire. Dead.

I haven't noticed in 2042, but I'd like to see AA in the home base spawn be able to attack and damage any aircraft that fly through or spawn camp and do some sizeable damage. Similar to BF 4. I'd also like the pilots of the Condors to attack choppers more often and not hover over areas to cap. It's really frustrating to get blown out of the air from a tank!

Tv missile tip is about "manual" most basic form of proportional navigation. You need to find such angle that your line of sight to target doesn't move First sidewinders were programmed to use this principle automatically Btw easiest method to destroy aircrafts/helis is actually waiting for flares to be over and immidiately firing 2 aa missiles from wildcat

Thank you!

For the wildcat, it's good to have the Flak Pod for the F3 seat. If a Nightbird gets close to you and you have that, he pays the price.

You can also spray the window with a lmg if they get close, the night bird is pretty much all windows

Vid popped up right after I just finished watching silk get a 200 plus and 0 deaths game just straight harassing the enemy team. Funny

Here's how I deal with Helis. I use Lis, the LATV, and the BOLTE or a combination depending on the specific situation. With Lis, you CAN kill skilled pilots without boost, but you have to know when to engage. That takes practice. Same with boost, you have to know when to use it. She, IMO, is by far the most effective deterrent for most pilots, even post-nerf. Many would avoid an area with a skilled Lis player around. The problem with the Wildcat is availability, reach and unskilled gunners and drivers. Same with the Jet and Rail tank. LATVs (with the 30 or 40mm canon) are easy to obtain and a well-placed one can take down a damaged Hind or annoy the pilots enough that they avoid an area. I use them mostly against the Hind. The BOLTE is harder to get but work similarly. You're right about the stingers. They're not as effective as they used to be and work better when several team members are working together. I stopped using them a while ago. If the Helis are low , you're better off taking a chance with the recoiless.

Great vid, Ghost; really hate the Nightbird.

It is possible to do all of this, but then you're not playing the objective or reviving or resupplying teammates. It's the issue of in a normal game constantly having to change specialist and class in order to do several things, because the rest of the team run around like bots with no clue.

I have never once 1 shot any heli with ANY of the launchers... I hit a heli with 3 of Lis's missiles and it was still flying as if nothing happened...

Most effective way to deal with armor and vehicles....SOFLAM it doesnt matter if you pop flares a Rao with a SOFLAM is going to make denying air incredibly easy. Even funnier when you pair him with Angel. Also guided shells on a tank is another method. Its an old method from Battlefield 3 but its funny as hell to shoot a little bird out of the sky with one....even funnier when you dumb fire a regular shell and kill them.

I was playing as Crawford one game and his turret does decent chip damage to low flying helis. That and his fast rate of fire I found annoyed the pilot.

I love soflam, makes even the most experienced pilots nervous xD

Yeah, when I use the Wildcat, I usually have anti-tank missles instead since AAs aren't usually helpful against good pilots.

Sniping aircraft with the Tor is exceptionally satisfying

No this is the order of operations for jets - Target : Jets -Wild Cat AA -Transport Helios - Regular Helios - all ground vehicles/ Infantry in sights … I’ve been killed by way more Wildcats than anything

Love these types of videos.

I've had the best luck killing choppers with the 50mm on the LATV

It doesn't help when my teammates go afk with the wildcat or any vehicule actually, like why even grab a vehicule if you are gonna go afk?

Ill tell you Ghost, Ive mastered Lis well before the buff she got last season, and yes she was pretty OP last season, but I still don't think they should've nerfed her so hard as they did, they limited range, maneuverability which indeed they had cuz it was OP, but also speed? With all due respect here man, the TGM kills you showcased here were of unaware pilots or when they were basically stationary... Dont get me wrong, judging the right moment to fire the TGM is a skill of it's own and you showcased that tremendously well, if you didn't shoot the missiles at those specific moments when the pilots were planning their next engagement or not paying attention, you would've had a hard time hitting them. Skilled nightbird pilots will move constantly even when shooting down the tend to move in a 45⁰ relative to pitch and yaw which they change constantly with roll movements, and stealth hellis are so maneuverable that it's insane. The biggest nerf they gave to Lis is the massive decrease in missile speed even while boosting... Boosting as you said yourself was the only way you could hit a skilled pilot with a TGM. I used to fire it already targeting a future position of the helli and boost it out of the gecko giving less possible reaction time... but now seriously it's almost impossible, they have enough time to react and as the missile won't turn not even a degree in time, it's pretty much getting easier to hit a M5 Recoiless than a TGM at a skilled pilot, against the average pilot still doable... against the ones farming your team... almost impossible.

Heli Status 2042: Dice loves infantry and nerfs anything that could harm infantry and except infantry itself

Can you do a complete guide fo all vehicles?Guide for conquest tactics but deep would be great👍

Dumb rockets should ALWAYS be 1 hit kill to air vehicles. The fact that you need multiple dumb rockets to take down a skilled chopper is insane

I started a game yesterday 8-0...heli killed me next spawn...then again...then again...and again....ended up something like 14-9...had like 6 heli deaths....IMO they are OP

Sniping pilots can be a handy method if you're a good enough shot.

Didnt they remove the damage drop off from the AA back in season 1?

Should’ve used some of these for silks last vid 😂

Yesterday I got good pilot in opponent with transport hilo with 163 and 0 , got killed by him 7 times T_T. We won that game but still that was painful.

All u need is 1 rao's and 2 lock on launchers whenever it's locked on for both of yall u shoot it and possibly a tank that's has lock on air missles

Every time I set up my rail tank all of a sudden the entire enemy air force start circling around my tank and blow it up

AA passenger weapon in the wildcat is king, get a buddy or switch seats 👍

Go M5 and beg without shame for some recon to use SOFLAM, I go recon a lot and everytime with soflam tagging enemy vehicle But nobody seem to take advantage, eventually you give up I find that the only effective ways against vehicles as infantry is to work as team, unfortunately BF2042 does not make that easy, most people have chat off, dont use voice chat (im talking to you console players) or straight up dont care, which is unfortunate I dont like battlebit at all, but they nailed the teamwork experience there

You forgot the 2 easiest ways to take down all helicopters, RAM and MAV AA guns. That's all I use for near 100% success rate first contact.

Why can’t we just re-initiate the re-arm/re-plen system of BF V. Keep the heli’s as is but force them to break off back to base to get more kit. Might balance alittle better, just my two cents.

Step 1 (Only step required): Sit with a TOR in the base and snipe the choppers from across the map.

method#7 mounted vulcan, by aim it to pilot.

The health of armor rating of them need to be brought down…I mean it takes like 5 shows to take down the larger helicopter and I can never hit the stealth helicopter since when I used the hacking gadget nobody is thinking about shooting and looking onto them lol

Did Lis's missels get nerfed again since this vid? I swear it feels like I'm tickling all vehicles with it. Maybe like 10% of the time it can destroy a vehicle on impact

If you ever see me in a game, our team will not struggle as i hate choppers with a passion. I pick Lis and go hunting all day. Most of my vids are just popping jets and choppers.

Lol I used to be very good at AA....one trick is to hold off on firing your AA missiles. Let them panic into wasting their countermeasures and once they are lockable again then you fire your missiles. Used to work all the time in bf4....doubt bf2042 is much different...

The Correct question is how to deal with Spawn camping Anti Air Wildcat, with Irish missile protection, hitting everything in the Air like a Aimbot.

Heli's are so OP it's silly. Also I wanna see you use the tank on a Little Bird.

30mm AA on the wildcat does not have dmg drop off against vehicles

Rogue Transmission BGM! I like

Dont forget after a skilled pilot kill to T-Bag him. So most oft time he left the Match or he only trys to hunt u, so your team has time to win the match without get farmed.

It’s literally if you don’t go AA you lose.

I think the only helicopter problem is the stealth helis. Don't @ me about realism but they should lose stealth mode when bombing. It doesn't make any sense in the current state

SO are you loving the current missile lock on bug?

Easiest way to get rid of ground and air vehicles... EMKV-90 TOR

is LMG+armor piercing ammo viable? I don't mean like destroying helos, but just make them think like "wow shit, 50% what happened?"

The vehicles are really the only way to get rid of helicopters currently in the game I have direct impacted helicopters with every single type of rocket launcher, in the game it always does 20 damage maybe I’m just so happening to hit it in the wrong spot every time, but it has only ever done 20 damage throughout my entire experience of the game. I found out quickly that stingers are absolutely useless I have used the normal rocket launcher to deal with tanks and other vehicles and it’s worked very well but against helicopters it still only does 20 damage. The g-84 tgm is probably the best launcher in the game. For me only does 20 damage to helicopters at least support ones it could be I’m hitting in the wrong areas every time and I’m just getting unlucky, but direct impacting the side and bottom of the helicopter and only doing 20 damage to me is ridiculous. I’m honestly debating quitting the game because I can’t do anything against any air vehicle as infantry. It irritates and bugs me to no end I shoot the helicopter it hits does 20 damage I get killed instantly it must’ve happened to me at least 100 times so far. Edit. Using other vehicles are the only way to deal with helicopters. My main perspective is upon infantry rocket launchers do absolutely nothing, and there’s not even a point of carrying one unless you want to deal with tanks or lighter vehicles. Transport helicopters have too much health and your launcher doesn’t do enough damage. Even the dumbest of pilots have easily shrugged off multiple rockets with no problem at all. Good luck shooting down a little bird with any rocket launcher in this game. You will most likely never hit one. You could get lucky but I doubt you will.

I just would like them to make helicpters actually realistic not doing 360´s constantly while killing and dodging and flaring missiles at the same time...

This is my opinion but you guys know when your enemies are really good or if you want a balanced game? I think we should have a option to play with others near your level

i have a black medal for Lis and I never knew you could BOOST the tv missle >:(

They need to fix the hit box I used to be able to snip them out the hit box doesn't always work

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