The comment section is a mess of "Who would truly win". Here is a better question, Why would the Galactica...a ship that has lost it's home worlds and is leading a bunch of ragtag civilian ships to the last Place they can survive while they are hunted by a Superior enemy they wants to destroy them, Fight the Earth forces, the people of the world THEY WERE LOOKING FOR! Wouldn't they..oh I don't know....Ask for help and join forces with them? I mean, they ain't from Earth, but they are still human! And the people of the Stargate world ain't blood hungering idiots! They wouldn't just open fire and be done with it. Wouldn't they ask who they were and help them out?
I don't get any of that. The battle was unnecessary and unrealistic. Daedalus would simply have scanned the approaching ships, registered thousands of human (not Wraith) life-signs. Identified the Big Momma in front from the rather large name on the pods and contacted the Fleet too introduced themselves as being from Earth. A bit of Q & A to confirm and Que party. Would love to see Adama's face when the City de-cloaked and Apollo's when he was introduced to Tayla.
i see some saying that BSG could take out a deadulous class ship. obviously none of you have watched much stargate. if you have watched both series, you would know that stargate far outclass any tech they have on the battlestar. the battlestar wouldn't even be able to to anything to the deadulous as it has shields and they only have nukes and bullets. even with this older version of the ship before all the upgrades, they would get wrecked.
Maybe Cylons Joining the Battlestars's Colonies full size fleet could be more of a match then. But then, The Stargate human fleet could have to be reinforced with some of their enemies warships too.
a single super hive could take the whole of the cylon and colonial fleets. hell earth only won thanks to the stargate(to get a super nuke on board) and Atlantis working together. battlestar are an amazing design but they don't have the tech to back it up ageist stargate ships even goauld hatak which are half the size of a galactica class would reck them
Brian southparkstudio Nope. **we will use the Daedalus with a ZPM for comparison**. The most powerful thing the Daedalus got hit with was a coronal mass ejection on approximately a 10 meter squared radius. The density of a sun's corona is approximately 0.00000000000012 grams per cubic meter and can reach temperatures up to 3 million degrees. Now the speed of a CME could reach 3000000 meters per second. With the Daedalus being hit on a approximately 10 meter squared radius for approximately 30 seconds **0.00000000000012 grams times 10 is 0.0000000000012 grams. 0.0000000000012 grams times 3000000 meters times 30 seconds is 0.000108 grams** Now using K=0.5mv^2 **the kinetic energy of the CME would be 486 Kilojoules** **Now for the thermal energy** with the mass of the CME being approximately 0.000108 grams and the heat of the CME being approximately 3000000 degrees using Q=mct **the thermal energy output of the CME would be 13 Gigajoules** (with the kinetic energy only factoring in for 0.0000001 of the total energy there would be no point adding it in to the total energy) **The total amount exerted to the Daedalus would be 13 Gigajoules** BUT, with the Daedalus only suffering minor damage in the event we would have to assume **at minimum** the shield dropped by 1 percent. If 13 Gigajoules can drop one percent **the total shield capacity of the Daedalus would be 1.3 Terajoules** (approximately 3 times stronger than the Enterprise D) **Now for the Galactica** in the miniseries the the Galactica got hit with a nuke from a Cylon raider. **It did not create a hull breach**. The Viper mk2 and Cylon raider have almost **identical** armaments. The Viper Mk2 can carry a 50 Megaton warhead (read on Battlestar wiki). A 50 Megaton warhead **didn't even poke a hole in the armour** and a 50 Megaton blast has 210 Petajoules of energy. **So at MINIMUM the amount of energy required to penetrate the hull of the Galactica would be 250 Petajoules** Now for the guns. Considering the Galactica class's armour strength the **minium** weapon strength for any colonial Battlestar would have to be 25 Petajoules per cannon shell and 50 Petajoules per gun (2 barrels). This is more than possible because of **Tylium**. As stated on the Battlestar wiki Tylium has an energy output of 500 Terajoules per kilogram. For each shell to have 25 Petajoules there would have to be 50 kilograms of Tylium per shell. **this is more than possible considering modern day shells can reach more than 1000 kilograms**. **The Galactica would be able to one shot the Daedalus AND Super hive**
Hard to say who would win. If only we could actually build a ship with Galactica's full armor, and weapons, combined with the shields and energy weapons and transport technology, that would just be a badass ship that can not only dish out some serious damage, but take some serious damage before being destryed. The crazy thing is, that a good amount of tech in Stargate, Star Trek, and BSG are actually real, and currently being worked on. Just imagine sometime in the not too distant future, after the planet decides to work together and pull all of the greatest minds, resources etc together to what we could potentially become? In reality, the BC-304 would be like our Battle Cruisers, equivalent to combining our submarines, destroyers, cruisers, LCS's etc, while the Galactica is a combination of our Aircraft Carriers, LHD's, LPD's and LSD's, now put them together and we can have a kickass star fleet.
Agreed!! But we have to build up to that pount first, and some major event would have to occur in order for us to see the big piture of putside threats.
+jon crocker I guess he was talking about the plating armor of the Galactica is more tough than the one stargate ships actually got (besides energy weapons, shields and transportation)
Sadly, the "difference in tech" between stargate and BSG, heck between stargate and star trek/star wars. Shield tech - Shields in Stargate are shown to, even without a ZPM, be able to take multiple multi-megaton hits. While this is closer to Star trek style shields absorbing hits then star wars hits which merely deflect hits and suffer weaknesses against projectiles. Weapons - both BSG and Stargate use the same rail-gun installations and VSL missiles, though later ships in stargate have heavy energy beam weapons capable of cutting ships the size of a star destroyer in half in a single strike. The Stargate ships though, like the Star trek ships have the advantage of being able to "Beam" weapons onto enemy ships. Both Star Wars and BSG actually lack the ability to defend against this. while some may say "shields would block it" remember Star wars shields are not all encompassing so transporter beams could still hit the target. As well projectiles could simply be beamed "close" to the target in its flight path acting as mines... Sublight speeds - BSG ships are limited by what the pilot can take, the fighters lack gravity compensation and the larger ships tend not to manouver. the same goes with Star wars. Startrek and BSG however do maneuver, with even large warships handling in some aspects like fighters. FTL - Jump drives take a long time to cool, charge, plot a course, and rejump. while travel is instantaneous... is range is limited. 20-30 light years. while psilon drives are x10 more efficient with ranges exceeding 200 light years. strangely, 30 lightyears would not even put it outside of sensor range of the Startrek ships let alone later stargate ships who can track objects many light years away. In contrast though, the star trek ships are rather sluggish... it would take anywhere from a day to an hour to cover that 30 light years, depending on warp factor. and the kicker there is, in an hour it would be there well before the ship could recharge and replot its next jump. Though the 200 light year jumps for the psilons is impressive its still "slow" compaired to the real speed demons. Startrek it will take 75 years to get from the delta quadrant to earth. Star wars, it takes weeks if not months for slower ships to cross the galaxy in hyperspace. But for what starwrs takes weeks to do, startrek takes years. Stargate - yeh old ships, years to get anywhere for old cargo ships. Months for the old drives to get anywhere. The new drives though. 3.001 MILLION light years, +distance to atlantis system 3.25 to 3.6 depending on which planet its on. they can cover that in "3 weeks" actually 19 days. with a ZPM on board, 4 days. THERES your speed demon so we are hopping the entire milky way in 2 hours. and we are not even going to talk about the shields with a zpm... taking a direct hit from a Mass coronal ejection at almost point blank range something that blots out star trek ships and star wars ships alike.
+DartLuke I didn't say they hacked the pegasus or galactica. Im saying is that the cylons are masters of elections and can wirelessly disable anything that's not manual. As seen in one of the episodes galactica had to temporarily use a computer network to trace the fleet when they lost it and the cylons almost got into there mainframe before jumping out. And this was after baltar disabled the mainframe on caprica.
I saw a.post about the Galactica winning even wit out shields because it "ate a nuke". That's pretty funny if you know StarGate. The Daedalus shields tanked explosions of thousands of Mega tons! And easily took out Mother Ships which are unshielded like the Galactica, but much bigger and tougher. Not to mention that they have a healing factor.
and +angry try hard the stargate ships could just block any transmissions that the cylons will try to use, or to defeat the cylons without using nukes they could just beam in an emp device onto their ships
Asgard beams can destroy an Ori mothership, which has massively powerful shields and probably a lot of armor under that. Those beams will cut through a Battlestar like a knife through butter. Without beams, it's a much more fair fight, and it depends on the numbers. Oh, and great vid. Could be better made, but better than most I've seen.
Enjoyable. I'm still hoping find well made crossovers featuring.... Starship Troopers vs anyone... Babylon 5 vs Stargate. Babylon 5 vs Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica vs Star Wars. Basically all...but in BSG case, they need oppose another franchise that also uses fighters.... Which is either B5 or Star Wars.
@dddrrmm X-303 is puny at only 190m or so. But the Ori ships are at least 5km in length, considering that it dwarfed a 700m ship (Ha'tak) when the later rammed it and the Ha'tak disintegrated as it crashed into the Ori ship's shields.
Stargate ships suffer from Star Trek syndrome. Shields are constantly failing and hull integrity is easily compromised. Shields deflect a small percentage of damage while the rest is absorbed. That includes kinetic damage, such as bullets and kiloton warhead explosions. All damage affects Stargate and Star Trek shields, not just energy. A physical object hitting a shield still does damage to the shield and the impact is felt by the crew. The Galactica survived multiple nuclear strikes on its hull with no dry dock repairs for the entire duration of the series. It also jumped into a planet's atmosphere to launch its Vipers. The Galactica was not built for the purpose. In addition, when the series starts it is 40 years old and being decommissioned and turned into an old War Museum. It has a good deal of its armor plating removed and at least half of its gun emplacements removed. The Stargate ships and Star Trek ships are regularly repaired and maintained after each and every battle. That charges their phaser banks, restock torpedoes, repair hull damage, and repair shields. Keep this in mind.
+Fodxp hatesgoogle The BSGs hull can take nuclear hits but I doubt it's capability compared to Asgard Beam Weaponry. No doubt they would cleave through the ships. Also while it takes nukes from outside I severely doubt it could take one that's blast originates from the inside.
Thadius Faran Any blast of sufficient tonnage will be fatal should it explode from the inside. That would cause massive decompression, severe inner structural supports to fail, and the entire ship to buckle from the inside out. Even a small grenade is dangerous to detonate inside the Galactica. The Mutiny Episode where Starbuck tosses a dud grenade caused everyone to panic, and allowed her to catch the enemy guards by surprise.
+Fodxp hatesgoogle Just the prometheus would easily destroy the galactica, easily. It had shields given by a race that was at least 100,000years more advanced than humans, rail guns and naquada enhanced nukes. There is no compition here. None.
nihilityjoey The Prometheus is 195 meters long. The Galactica is 1,440 meters long. The Galaxy Class Enterprise D is 643 meters long. Just keep that in mind, and those are official statistics. Not to mention the Galactica still has Vipers and Raptors to launch. Both of which are capable of carrying nuclear missiles.
Fodxp hatesgoogle Jesus here we go. Fist the prometheus is anything but 195 meters long, that might be in the wiki page (there is no real source, not in the t.v or films and i have them all) but anyone with half a brain and good eye sight can tell that it is much larger-in the range of 550m too 600. Secondly your still missing the point, it has ASGARD shields and designed weapons (not like the oddesey) e.g rail guns etc. In a battle with a galaxy class ship yes there would be a struggle-due too weaponry but prometheus shields would hold out easily, the federations weapons are effective against shield technology designed by species round about their own tech level give or take 1000yrs the asgard are far, far, far beyond that so it would be just a case of waiting for their weaponry to deplete starfleets ships sheilds. As far as the galacticas concerned, well both will have simillar weaponry and simillar hull strength, with the exception of ASGARD shields. The 1,440m galactica would become a floating tomb after 15mins easily. The tech in stargate is monstrously ahead of both.
LOL, the first naquadah enhanced nuke that the SGC utilised was 1 gigaton (Like near extinction) and that is generally the standard. the Mk IX has roughly 800 Gigatons, which fits in visuals (sometimes) and dialogue.
Yeah, the Colonials wouldn't stand a chance. The technology wasn't the thing that got me the most, it's the procedures. Look at all they go through to launch missiles. Whereas in Stargate it's just "Fire missiles" and they're away. In any case, great job on the video. It's not perfect, sure, but it's pretty good. Having done (or tried to do) this kind of thing myself, I have great respect for those who can pull it off.
One thing we all forget... The Stargate ships all rely on shields and without them they can not take too much damage whilst the BSG's are extremely heavy armored and can jump instantly
William Signs Yaaa it's totally weak when it can survive 210 Petajoules (210 quadrillion joules) of energy. Or is the science to confusing for you lol. Along with l this your "all powerful " Daedalus can't even survive anything more than a 1.5 Terajoule CME. Lol that's less than a 15 kiloton nuke lol. The fanboyism in you is real.
I'm not trying to start a fight it's just my opinion. When i said the BSG can jump instantly i meant it can jump from one point to another in the blink of an eye while the star gate ships have to travel through hyper space which can take a long time. More then this another ship can follow them in hyper space while a jump in BSG is untraceable. Also we constantly see star gate ships blowing up while BSG Pegasus was destroyed raming two bay stars and it took a sun to destroy BSG Galatia.
it was called the Battlestar Peagasis. yes I know I misspelled that. During its final battle before it was sacrificed, the FTL drives had failed due to a hull breach and extensive damage to the FTL and engine system. Lee Adama, who was "captain" of the Peagasis, decided that the ship was useless if trying to jump away as was the plan. So Lee decided to take out a as many cylons as he could, and how else better than to destroy their whole ship?
I like both shows. But in my humble opinion, BSG is simply more breathtaking and epic. I also like it that it doesn't "cheat" using technology as a sort of deus ex machina (like stargate does with teleports and other overpowered asgard technology).
you have to admit that its amazing that galactica was able to survive a lot longer than the other top of the line ships thats were all brand new and advance. She completed her last mission, she found humanity a new home away from the threat of being destroyed
@Seekarr BSG is a drama show. It builds on the characters, so of course the characters are given lots of screen time. The extremely well made characters are the ones that make you watch it, and care about what happens to them. Sure there were a few episodes that didn't impact the greater storyline, especially in mid-third season. But, are you gonna say that Stargate didn't have loads of bad and pointless episodes along the 10 seasons.
(Continued) and as I've said before we don't know the yield of the nukes but it is safe to assume they're higher than regular nukes and with it's other gun batteries I think it's more the Commanders
And as I said it's more about tactics and the Commanders because in Stargate they just attack while in Galactica they make strategies and plan for an attack before committing their forces and there is no way wraith ship-to-ship weapons have anywhere near the same yield as a nuke, if you don't believe me watch the Allies, the explosions are nowhere near kiloton range let alone megaton range and a sustained bonbardment can collapse the Daedalus' shields or the Ori canons for example, they can
@SternMann93 I disagree, Battlestar Galactica didn't have nearly the same level of variety. Too much screen time given to people no one cared about. Lots of very long drawn out story lines that were needlessly extended along multiple episodes rather than putting it in one episode. It had its high moments, but 90% of the episodes were more or less throwaways whose purpose was just to fluff up other better episodes.
GOD DAMMIT!!!!!!! I need to learn how to create or render 3d visuals. Cause something like this i need to see myself. No just a mash up of scenes. I wanna see a 304 fireing on the galactica I wanna see Mark II and VII vipers in a dogfight with 302s. I should take an animation class.
If the BSG were new then yes maybe. Its the X-304's and the teleport tech that will win it though. They could transport a nuke to the center or engine room of BSG and be done with it. Say if the Daedalus didn't have teleport tech then I would go with BSG. They use the same type weapons (guns and missles no laser) but the BSG does have main forward battery which Daedalus does not.
Just cuz it's also sci-fi doesn't mean they ripped off what actually is the penultimate sci-fi series, star trek, TOS or TNG depending on what you're talking about.
To be honest to jude this properly it has to be Galactica from the miniseries not later on due to fatigue and ongoing unrepaired damage from every battle in the series and the issue of the ship being seriously undermaned, but besides that in the miniseries Apollo used the generators taken from the Galactica to produce the same EMP from a nuke, I doubt Daedalus can beam through that and the beam weapons can be intercepted see season 5s enemies so they would be taken out by Galactica's Flak screen
That was a very well put together vid. It seemed quite "realistic", considering you never saw the two combatants actually in the same frame. I dont think it's necessary to discus who would "really" win. BG has noraml weapons with no shields. Atlantis has Ancient technology.
Yeah.....when sci-fi shows, or books or anything else for that matter, have ships with energy weapons and transporters....it doesn't mean they're 'ripping off' Star Trek. There's a difference between ripping off and following in the footsteps of. Just cuz a fantasy series has elves and dwarves doesn't mean they're ripping off LOTR. And the replicators aren't so similar to the Borg, 'cept in general. If anything, SGU could be said to be a BSG clone, in the concept of the series, but not SG1/A.
Technically you could have used Atlantis itself and Orion ships, jumping into hyperspace, online fixing and allies - todd the wraith, ancients against the galactica and its jumping technology, online repairing the ship and the cylons..
I would have to disagree with this. The BC-304, the larger of the two Earth ship types from stargate is on 200-225m, where as the Galactica is almost 1.5km in length. The BC-304 has 4 beam weapons, 32 rail guns, and 16 nuke tubes; where as the galactica has as many as 538 duel energy kinetic cannons plus 12 nuke tubes. The BC-304 only has 8-16 fighters where as galactica has at its least 40 fighters and 5 assault ships, and at its most double that number. With that, I think Galctica would win.
@CobaltX07 When did they ever state the yield of nukes in Galactica... oh wait they never did, I've just finished watching the series from start to finish and they never say a yield
So, take a 50+ year old ship that is about to be retired, has maybe a quarter of its maximum fighter escort, almost all of its hull armor removed, 3 50MT nukes, and an under-manned almost completely inexperienced crew... then pit it against a brand-spankin'-new ship-of-the-line, fully equipped, fully staffed. Even without the Stargate tech advantages, it's not a fair fight in the slightest.
It was an ok video. I'm not going to mention all the stuff everyone else said, but I would say, KILL THE DAM MUSIC VOLUME A LITTLE! I can't hardly hear anything that anyone is saying.
now imagen kinetic energy shots the size of small ships flying against the shield they would be flying around in there, then Galacitca gets in close to the SG ship and jumps that would rip a chunk out of her or at least drain the shield. but like i said before it depends on the situation im a BSG fan so thats why i took that situation :-D I would be a hard fight for any of SG's ships even with asgard tech(one word Vipers!!)
"there can be no compromises." Fiction. Swearing does not make a show. At least not for everyone. Why have you replied to me on 3 different occasions? Frak is cool. Its a BSG meme.
@DogOnAShip you mean bout 20 fully armed vipers against 20 fully armed f302 fighters? the f302 fighters wouldn´t even let the vipers close enough for anything...they would shoot their missiles...i think about 4 missiles are carried by each f302...and just one needed for a viper...vipers seem to just have machine guns or something like that...
No Wraiths, or the other major powers in the Stargate Universe?. What I like about all this fan made shows is that they avoid having in the fight the major power house players that wipe out the lower races.
I think the shooting style is awesome. I love it. And I think the characters are interesting. What ever floats your boat I guess. Also, its won 27 awards, Stargate has won 23. Average score on IMDB for BSG 8.9, Stargate 7.7
meh.....goa'uld/asgard sets are one thing.....the series is obviously much different in the mythology and settings they've created. It's not a 'ripoff' unless they just copy everything without bothering to change anything.....if they never intended to make it their own. Uhm....that being said....I don't really see a resemblance between TNG seasons 1-3 and stargate?
lol, just like to point out a few things daedalus is about 200m long galactica is 1400m long daedalas has around ten guns galactica has about 700 of course daedalus has shields and energy weapons lol, but like he said, keep an open mind
(Continued) easily collapse Daedalus type shields and as seen in Counterstrike they're nowhere near nuclear force explosive power so Galactica's nukes could get through the Daedalus' shields with ease after a sustained bombardment and Vipers could easily deal with F-302s
for every1 who is saying that stargate wins are right but only because humans in stargate got a shit load of technology from alien races in battlestar galactica they experienced a dark age when every1 was afraid of computers if cylons hadnt rebelled then galactica might have won and besides galactica is over 40 years old anyways it was in the first cylon war the only known current battlestar was pegasus and it was later destroyed anyways so not really fair comparison
i love both shows but human ships equipped with asgard tech would obliterate not only the colonials but the cylons as well..... we're talking about shields that withstood ori beam weapons, beaming tech to teleport warheads aboard enemy ships, and of course the asgard beam weapons technology that could cut through ori shields in a couple of shots, even goa'uld ha'tak vessels couldnt even scratch the ori ships... no contest here folks, stargate daedulus class ships would obliterate BS class ships
I think that BSG tried waaayyy to hard to be realistic that is what I prefer about Stargate: it is childish, Adult and Scifi at the same time. I am not flaming BSG nor hating it. I know it's a good show but I prefer Stargate. anyway Stargate doesn't have as many Deus ex as many people believe, usually it's cloak in then NUKE, NUKE, NUKE or DRONE, DRONE, DRONE
@HaloDrwhoSG1SGASGU And why you like the shows. Stargate is all about the battles and story concept. And the out of it plots that are deliberately difficult to follow. Its like some of the Final Fantasy games, just deliberately difficult to keep up with.
The yeild of Galactica nukes is in the range of kilotons and in Stargate were talking easily of megatons because of the naquadah enriched warheads.So Stargate warheads win.
galactica would demolish a daedalus class cruiser. Galactica has 11 times the armament and eight times the fighters and is seven times longer than stargates prime cruiser. the only thing stargate has on BSG is it has sheild technology, but galacticas size more than makes up for it, i mean c'mon, it ate a nuke.
@LanteanStargater What? The reason they were canceled is because not enough people like them. And yeah, agreed. There's gotta be something in Stargate, that people like. I don't know what, but still.
well in battle stars deffince you got to rember the Galaictca was meent to take nukes head on and it also toke more then a few nukes from a base star as well wich hace nukes 10x more powerfully then they had in stargate and you also got to rember the battlestar the name of the type of ship was ment to be a one ship fleet and take the damage a hole fleet core with out breaking lol
well in battle stars deffince you got to rember the Galaictca was meent to take nukes head on and it also toke more then a few nukes from a base star as well wich hace nukes 10x more powerfully then they had in stargate
Beam weapons have been intercepted as I said watch the first part of Season 5s Enemies in which Apophis' mothships weapons intercept the beams from the replicators after the first shot
stargate atlantis techonology(ancients,wraiths,replicators,ashgards) r just too superior compared to battlestar galactica ships( cylon,human),one aurora class ships with a shield is enough to wipe out the combined cylon plus caprican fleet..thats just technology aspects,but overall the storyline of battlestar galactica is superb and its hard to side with either SGA or battlestar galactica
Meh. Battlestar Galactica is an all round better show. Its miles better. Better acting, better characters, better design, better soundtrack, better plot (not story concept) and better politics.
