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The BBR Mazda MX-5 Super 200 is all about enhancing the ND MX-5's existing favourable attributes. The Super 200 is all about sticking to the MX-5's core values.
With a long history of MX-5 tuning, the team also offers turbocharging conversions to suit those after more power. Subscribe to PistonHeads RU-vid channel here: bit.ly/2aKvdVO
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@theeeMitchi 7 лет назад

Look at the wheel-tyre combination! The sidewalls, so meaty! Love it! Can't wait for ITBs in the ND.

@BabyZ0914 7 лет назад

The kit mentioned here + an itb setup would be ideal. =)

@juliewallace2268 7 лет назад

thee Mitchi POrsh Cars 1993

@jaewhite2462 6 лет назад

I miss meaty tires, people love rubber band tires now... not a fan

@viktorb9022 6 лет назад

Jae White It drives better because of better response and comfort is also better in daily use. I changed my opinion... and now I automatically prefer the look of these tires.

@vrcshortys152 9 месяцев назад

@@jaewhite2462 smaller sidewalls are more responsive

@triathlonSDhsp 7 лет назад

A well prepped ND is pretty insane. You can push the car hard on the street and makes a fantastic Autocross car. SCCA STR.

@patthonsirilim5739 3 года назад

get the 2019 mx5 club edition version and get a good quality exhaust tuned and intake on it your it will make 200hp and the car being so light it will be one of the best car to drive on the road

@Polyrytmi 3 года назад

@@patthonsirilim5739 hey man, what kind of intake will help? u think a drop in will help?

@nvl2691 3 года назад

@@Polyrytmi Drop in air filters don't do anything. Short ram intakes suck in hot air from the engine bay. You want gains, either you get a true cold air intake and take the risk of hydrolocking your engine, or you get an upgraded airbox.

@patthonsirilim5739 7 месяцев назад

@@Polyrytmi BBR mx5 nd cold air intake and a drop in filter from K&N headers tuned and catback should get yout to 200hp on the new nd2 or you can spring for a bbr220 kit with springs and hot cams the car will make 220hp honestly that level of power is simply perfect for this car.

@mxwtubemxw 7 лет назад

Another Awesome job by BBR - From an NC owner with a BBR designed, forged and tuned turbo engine and 378 HP - Well Happy! - Thank you BBR! I'll have one of these with a turbo next!

@BabyZ0914 7 лет назад

Hello! Sorry for asking but i just wanna know if the products from BBR are reliable. I havent tried any and i usually wait for Japanese brands instead. But ive heard BBR is really good when it comes to tuning miatas. A reply would be appreciated. Thank you!

@mxwtubemxw 7 лет назад

100% Top Quality, Reliability & Power - I started with a stage 2 turbo, An uprated suspension - springs/dampers. - Uprated brake disks/pads. then - A stage 3 forged engine built for me, with many enhancements, a hybrid turbo. - and a special high flow fuel system, 378 BHP & 362 ft/lbs torque - All Brilliant - Cheers for asking, All credit & many thanks go to all at BBR :-)

@niksarass 6 лет назад

mxwtubemxw How is it doing one year after?

@donaldvankleeck2004 7 лет назад

Turbo lag ruins driving dynamics, so I'm also a fan of NA engines.

@ThePilotGear 3 года назад

agreed.

@mantazini 3 года назад

Not if you put a suitable turbo for the displacement. And im also NA fan , just not the 4 pot kindergarten power ones like on every single mx5 they made...

@satoril928 3 года назад

A well tuned car and properly matched turbo can have no lag. MK7 GTI from the factory had smooth even power up to redline.

@TheNaqoyqatZ 3 года назад

^Has not driven a proper turbo Miata.

@lucianolucidi8624 Год назад

Na? Have driven the 2.0 ND 184hp? Its amazing

@ianbradley2153 9 месяцев назад

Had a super 200 installed on my 2L NC, very impressed with it and BBR

@charliegledhill1557 7 лет назад

Spot on video. Very informative!

@ketchup5344 5 лет назад

Phew!! Spirited driving there!!! 👍

@markdenyer8072 7 лет назад

looks and sounds fantastic!

@Lee-70ish 7 лет назад

I'm thinking of the BBR star chip for my 1.5 that means 50/50 weight distribution still but with the 2.0 tickle As an add on BBR have just released a stage 1 turbo for the ND result 2.0 now does 0-60 5sec top speed limited to 155mph.

@tycinis 7 лет назад

like an Elise without the drawback

@bnmcmhn 7 лет назад

or the structural rigidity

@tycinis 7 лет назад

I own an exige s2 and a lotus Elise s1 , former owner of a Suzuki cappuccino too. The frame on the lotus is speechless but the car is to hard to be a daily drive. i often see at racetrack some mx5 nb/bc with some very cheap mod giving hard time at some Elise , the mx5 is and still be the best convertible sport car money can buy.

@Vonstroke 7 лет назад

The Elise chassis is not as stiff as you might think though.

@Kamui.. 7 лет назад

Stock it's nothing like an Elise, the motor (2.0L) doesn't like to rev, and the chassis is far away from an Elise.. (I drove the 2.0L ND Miata an Elise 111r (Toy) and an Exige Cup 260, and a Speedster 147, even the Speedster is better for the kart-like driving feel)

@heikopanzlaff3789 7 лет назад

The shifter is a lot better than everything Lotus ever has bought somewhere and has forced into their cars. MX 5 ND has probably the best manual gearbox on earth. And the waterproof roof design. And the fuel consumption. And the working electrics.

@1SaG 6 лет назад

Either the camera mount was floppy or BBR's setup is pretty hard and/or bouncy. The car looks a lot more nervous on rough tarmac than a stock version - even the one with the OEM Bilsteins. Great for a weekend/track-day toy, but I'm not sure I'd want that kind of setup in a daily driver.

@GTFour 7 лет назад

god that camera shake

@benh4222 7 лет назад

agree with everything he said, smart guy obviously knows his stuff.

@pd4165 7 лет назад

Except what to do with his hands when talking to camera.

@SebDJ 7 лет назад

So much need going on here.

@Nikola85ZgCRO 3 года назад

5:51 and here I was, all this time thinking Miatas were sports cars. Turns out they’re minivans.

@WezleyB 7 лет назад

the fiat-ata with a tune makes about 200hp... I would love to see this MX5 against a tuned fiat-ata..

@mikeb1039 Год назад

Very nicely done! I'm looking at this car after finally putting the Porsche dream aside (bore scoring cinched it for me) and trying to decide between this and a turbo. Thank you

@checkyourself164 7 лет назад

Did he call them ''wildwood'' brakes instead of Wilwood?

@manc7808 7 лет назад

josh winn I thought he pronounced it 'wilewood' but I could be wrong.

@ZingTowPootWerkins 6 лет назад

Must be special edition Wilwood... From the same supplier as the "Oh Zed!" Wheels...

@vicentefz5319 7 лет назад

dude if you want to justify the price of the modifications, it would be a good idea if you show some dyno test

@QNH2992 7 лет назад

please tell me the wheels and the tires's product name and size.

@SashaNaronin 7 месяцев назад

Awesome stuff, do any of your 190+hp conversions have TUV papers available?

@VeganBytes 4 года назад

Wouldn't be a bad idea to put a few links in the vid description for where to get these mods. Regardless, the mx5 as is, is a good car. You really don't need much more unless you're putting it on a track. The only thing I want is a tasteful rear spoiler for the rf version. There's nothing but overpriced garbage out there at the moment.

@rotuueneider6530 7 лет назад

Nice video and car.

@bingoberra18 7 лет назад

Does it have a lightweight flywheel added aswell in the package or does the ND actually have such crisp throttle response?

@chrissorreda4982 7 лет назад

bingoberra18 Watch a couple detailed technical videos on the ND. It already has a really light flywheel compared to the old NC!

@melvindezeure7955 4 года назад

What exhaust is on this mx-5? I'm looking for an exhaust aswell: Goodwin super q twin tip , is this a good exhaust?

@tommitchell1049 3 года назад

Fantastic exhaust. I run mine without the baffles. The sound is as good as it gets!

@itsmylife4fucksake 3 года назад

Imagine this BBR package on newer 181HP engine. Compared to this one witch had 165hp from start

@lassydogpie5390 3 года назад

It’s already maxed out so little difference

@itsmylife4fucksake 3 года назад

its not maxed out already. This was video is about an package from 165HP old engine. Witch revs 500 less. and has 20HP less. Newer Engine is same just built better and it is stronger then this tune. then plus add this on top. it becomes big difference, not little one.

@lassydogpie5390 3 года назад

@@itsmylife4fucksake I mean the nd2 is

@itsmylife4fucksake 3 года назад

@@lassydogpie5390 ND2 is not as its engine was rebuild a little in 2019 and now is making 20 factory more HP cuz of that. Its not same as what they used on video 165HP version of the car :P

@zachvisker8575 7 лет назад

Check out TurboSource ND Turbo Miata making much more power and torque!

@malice_wonderland 7 лет назад

I was willing to put up with the camera shake until you said it wasn't a sports car. MX-5 Cup, anyone?

@courier007 7 лет назад

I never understand that "not a sports car" thinking at all. I grew up with Austin-Healeys, Sprites, TRs, MGs (A & B), Alfas, Sunbeams and a few others, and all were called sports cars. Now i drive an MX-5 and it's as much fun as anything in the '60s, and certainly a sports car.

@golders99 7 лет назад

malice604 yeah the presenter slipped up there. The MX5 is the definition of a Sports Car.

@rabc1966 7 лет назад

I have the NC with BBR super 200 and I love it. I've also had an Elise and yes very similar but much easier to live with. As for the £8000, you build it in affordable stages. I do wonder why it can't be termed a "sports car", that BBR ND will do 0-60 in about 5.6 sec's and out handle many more expensive cars.

@golders99 7 лет назад

rabc1966 The MX5 has always been the definition of a Sports Car. Chap in the video slipped up there.

@2Spot8 7 лет назад

Rather than that the MX5 is not a spor ts car, the reviewer probably should have said the MX5 is not a performance car. A car like an MX5 is definitely a sports car in the sense of how much it rewards and involves good driving skills.

@patthonsirilim5739 6 лет назад

people just dont get this car 200hp is alot of power for a car that weight around 1050kg most car even turbo hatchback are like 1500kg sure they get there 300hp and most likely will be able to beat or match this modded car in a drag race but under braking and cornering no chance

@io504 4 года назад

I'm seriously considering the BBR 200 kit for my NC, would you recommend it?

@rabc1966 4 года назад

@@io504 yes. I've had my nc since new and I'm still enjoying now. Don't feel the need to change it.

@jimtech362 7 лет назад

if the miata come with this stock, i'll just buy it tomorrow...

@lm658 6 лет назад

Runpu liu would be cool if mazda made a faster sportier version of the MX-5 with even less weight and ~200-210 PS.

@patthonsirilim5739 6 лет назад

you know what drop the 2018 205 hp 86gt engine in to this car without increasing the weight of the whole car as a hole and you will have a winner and if you not content you can have a flash tuned and exhaust on the car just like this brb and you should make 220-225ps with a weight of 1050kg they will sell by the bucket load if that brb can make the sprint to 60 in 5.65 second a 225ps mx5 should do it in under 5 seconds and crack 155mph all this should be more then enough for the mx5 performance wise and you still get that cracking handling and engine response of a na engine if there a chassis that have any chance of getting the next generation of na engine pass emissions this is it

@emre_asil_ 6 лет назад

FA20 is higher on horses but its not much different than the current 2.0 nd engine. Also it has a torque dip and boxer is such a bitch to work on. They should ask honda for help lol.

@patthonsirilim5739 6 лет назад

yeah your rite the f20c from the s2k should do the trick 240hp on a 1000kg car would be the bomb buts its quite hard to get a engine like the f20c to pass modern emission but the boxer do have an advantage its has lower center of gravity don't suffer to much from motor oil starvation from high g forces since the engine is flat ensuring more efficiency what im trying to say is mazda could just drop in the fa20 by forming a toyota partnership and have it sold and road legal without to much work or effort but an engine like the fc20 would have to be quite expensive to develop and build if you want to retain its power figure and have pass current fuel and emission regulation fa20 would have been a better pick for production reason but if i were to mod i would swap a f20c engine into it

@chrismccombe1607 5 лет назад

That gt86 engine is garbage should never of been put into the car in that state why you think a stock mx5 beats it in a drag run easily and even manages to beat it on a track not by much. I owed a gt86 and while the stearing/turn in is fantastic and the stock ride set up is more planted feel. When I drove the mk5 nd I was sold the engine power delivery is so much sweeter you always have power no matter were you are in the rev range. I will admit I like a bit less body roll but just because it doesn't make car feel as planned on 1st turn in but once you get used to it you just grip and go mx5 as standard beats or matches the gt86 in every way in most cases beats it and the mx5 engine is much more turning possibles I now have the mx5 and its one the, purest and fun cars I've ever owed with bags of, potential

@mesuttasdemir4618 7 лет назад

Hey piston heads i want to translate this video for turkish language. Can i ?

@GrooveTasticThang 7 лет назад

Always like the idea of a NA BBR conversion MX5, has s lot going for it. But looking at used cars for 1/2 or 1/3 the price would get you in an S2000 (240hp stock) or a Porsche Boxster- maybe a super 200 NC mx5 put together for £10k might be a good price point?

@iantownsend500 6 лет назад

GrooveTasticThang Late reply but oh well there’s a Nc Super 200 on eBay £6,495

@chomp54321 6 лет назад

What engine is in this MX-5? I'm not familiar with the UK spec.

@colinleder5683 6 лет назад

Chomp 2.0L boosted to about 215hp (from 160hp)

@gio8669 6 лет назад

Legale in Italia fare questa modifica?

@Dagr8soldjer 7 лет назад

mk1 mx5 with a v6 swap and a supercharger...will make about 250-350 hp depending on other mods and tune and will cost under 10 grand total

@erendyalatorre7785 7 лет назад

Alex James which v6 and SC?

@MagicAyrtonforever 5 лет назад

Still a pile of rusty shit that is unsaleable

@FrostyCoug 7 лет назад

the tune probably killed the sweet torque curve for the sake of top hp. would like to see 0-60 and a drag race vs stock

@checkyourself164 7 лет назад

0-60 has dropped from 7.3 seconds to 5.65. You can view the 0-60 tests on BBR's RU-vid page, it'd take craps all over a stock one.

@AK-47760 7 лет назад

josh winn is this the 2.0 or the 1.5 and how much hp?

@stephanmaaen3777 7 лет назад

FrostyCoug Tmnij

@sidewaysandsmiling59 7 лет назад

FrostyCoug The dyno shows its making more torque everywhere from 2k to 7k+ compared to stock. Look at their fb or the pdf on the product page. Vvt/L helps a lot.

@chrissorreda4982 7 лет назад

No. no it doesn't. The dyno is in their website.

@frouchitude1916 5 лет назад

Im from belgium. Is it possible to do the modifications by myself? Mine is a 2019 nd 2.0 185hp

@keiserious 5 лет назад

This tune is for the ND1(2015-18) which brings it to the power level of the ND2 revised engine you have.

@Lead_Foot 4 года назад

They have a new super 220 package for the ND2.

@janschalley1660 3 года назад

What modification did you go for in the end for your 2019 ND 2.0?

@colinleder5683 6 лет назад

I tested the mx-5 stock on the Nürburgring and got a 09:01 (Forza 7). Then I modified it as a Super 200 (Sport air intake, upgraded manifold, upgraded exhaust, upgraded camshaft, which gives me 209hp), I put short springs and that's it. After the upgrades, I got a 08:26. Those numbers are not big numbers but even on the game the car changes so much ! So if you wanted approximative lap times, here there are !

@henrike22 5 лет назад

You're talking about a a game ahaha....gtfo kid

@MagicAyrtonforever 5 лет назад

I'm 46 and also use Forza 7 to practise.. Kiddo!!

@Enforcer_WJDE 5 лет назад

@@MagicAyrtonforever I don't think keyboard skills translate very well into real world driving skills...maybe keeping your reaction time good but nothing else. The best race car drivers practiced from karts and minibikes as a kid working their way up the ladder.

@Enforcer_WJDE 5 лет назад

The thing is....Forza like many other "sim" games are more like simcade. This is done to balance frustration and fun. Why else did the simulator genre die out and is only a niche product by now? They were too complicated and with the next generation not willing to invest any time reading an encyclopedia to learn how to play a game you understand why. Don't get me wrong the game looks stunning and i would probably be playing it if i was still into racing games.

@petervandermeulen6641 2 года назад

Pls make the same review for nc

@Jury1111111111 7 лет назад

You forgot to mention the Toyobaru. How does that fare against this MX-5?

@JonathanNichollsjono 7 лет назад

Check the Head 2 Head on Motortrend between those two cars for that answer. It's a good watch too.

@patrickthornton5470 7 лет назад

+Jono Nicholls they're both amazing cars though. There shouldn't really be a true "winner"

@MadelnMachines 5 лет назад

Can anyone offer any comparison between the BBR MX-5 SUPER 200 and the BBR MX-5 ND SUPER 220 - 2019 ON 184PS

@unixbsd1 4 года назад

Hello Made in Machines, I've got Super 200+ (214bhp ND1 2017) , and, the last weekend, I tried with and ND2 182bhp. At first, both are slightly equals, but throught the time, the ND1 super 200+ pass the ND2 slowly, one car, then two cars, and last, three cars. proof of concept: i. 60km/h -> 200km/hr ii. 80 -> 200 iii. 100 -> 200 iv. 120 -> 200 In all cases ND1 Super 200 beats ND2 stock. Greetings

@unixbsd1 4 года назад

and yesterday a tried with ND2 with: manifold, center line, cat back, sway bar rear and front, and koni suspension, and was the same thing than stock ND2.

@g.f.6728 4 года назад

@@unixbsd1 hi did you try with ND BBR 2.0 turbo ?

@unixbsd1 4 года назад

@@g.f.6728 nope, just nd2 stock and some modifications.

@g.f.6728 4 года назад

@@unixbsd1 are you happy enough with this 214 hp or you thinking about fitting turbo ? Any problems with emmision tests with your setup ?

@NateRist 7 лет назад

Wanna know a better way to get alot more HP out of an ND than with this setup? Two words: RENESIS SWAP (already done multiple times on NBs and NCs, so why not the ND too?) :D

@opmike343 2 года назад

Probably because if there's an engine worth swapping into the ND, it's an LS.

@berndblabla4249 7 лет назад

15 years ago Honda got 240hp out of 2 liter how much money must be invested for 240hp Honda was great

@jmc8583 7 лет назад

15 years ago, régulations were easier to meet. I have no doubt the P5-VPR could achieve this kind of specific power (180hp) without much modifications (already comes with a fully balanced forged crankshaft). E85 and specific cams should be enough, at the cost of frequent tank refills. There's really nothing special about these "early" Honda engines, they mostly used what they had to use on their motorbikes engines.

@mattjex 5 лет назад

It was great but it had no torque. You had to rev the nuts out of it to reach the horsepower. Most people that want a fun and spirited daily driver don't want to have to keep above 6000rpm permanently.

@FRWD_FXLRST 4 года назад

ND is faster than the S2000 too.

@draneel009 6 лет назад

im 6'1, 250lbs. do you think im gonna fit comfortably in this car?

@iantownsend500 5 лет назад

dranel valle Yes I’m the same & I fit. Take one for a test drive

@johnweir7855 2 года назад

I’m 6ft 2.5 inches and 13.5 stone. I fit comfortably

@neilizer 7 лет назад

Jesus! Just tell us the actual price....not so & so + VAT, I dont wont to sit in my armchair trying to work out +20%

@SAFFY7411 7 лет назад

neilizer Ikr

@djbrianc 6 лет назад

In the states, we drop V8 ls2 and 3 into them. Over 500 hp for about $10k - $15k. Check out Flying Miata.

@colinleder5683 6 лет назад

djbrianc not a miata anymore, just get a mustang if you want powerful big ass engine

@GURken 5 лет назад

tell me about weight distribution

@Gale_Force_Raceway 7 лет назад

"Back box"... is that a muffler? Wait.... "not a sports car" ????

@jarno3000 7 лет назад

What tire size is on that one? Looks a fair bit chunkier than the stock sized 17" tires?

@SAFFY7411 7 лет назад

tzalwelzijn I'd guess at 18" given the OZ wheels.

@Digi20 6 лет назад

215 45 r17, you can see it at 0:30

@edgarmondragon6793 6 лет назад

What exhaust is on this car? Thanks

@colinleder5683 6 лет назад

Edgar Mondragón its the BBR GTI super sport exhaust. But notice there is also center section, manifold, camshaft that have been modified. You won't get that sound just with the rear exhaust

@edgarmondragon6793 6 лет назад

Colin Leder thanks, where can i get these modifications, greetings from México!

@colinleder5683 6 лет назад

Edgar Mondragón i was gonna say on bbr gti website but its in UK. Flyin Miata in the USA also sell this exhaust check it out :)

@edgarmondragon6793 6 лет назад

Colin Leder ok! thank you so much, i will check it out, good day!

@spoonyspoonicus4648 7 лет назад

what about the gt86 or a really good second hand car with a lot more power.

@mortenberg2897 7 лет назад

Inspite the more power - its slower than the MX5.....

@spoonyspoonicus4648 7 лет назад

Morten Berg maybe but u could get a mint m3 or something for that price

@ayeapprove 7 лет назад

and alot more weight

@spoonyspoonicus4648 7 лет назад

Herrdesrings depends on what you bought. you can get cars a bit heavy with double the power for that money.

@ayeapprove 7 лет назад

spoony spoonicus I'd rather have a lightweight car than more HP.

@oscarlainz 7 лет назад

the 370Z cost 31K€ here in Spain...

@smilepermile888 4 года назад

...and weigh 400+kg more. More expensive consumable costs.

@lotarrrrr 7 лет назад

This ND sounds just like my NA... :-)

@neil2wheels876 7 лет назад

The man maths will be far easier to justify in a couple of years when you can pick up a second hand MX5 for £10k...

@Guenounovitch 6 лет назад

with 80 000 miles on it

@Tefloncoated 3 года назад

Super fruity sound. Like it

@stuartchristie654 7 лет назад

30k on the second hand market buys a lot of car....I bought a 5year old SLK55 AMG with 14k on the clock...big v8, German engineering and 356bhp and bucket loads of torque....I have owned two mx5's and my wife currently drives one, that is an awful lot of money to make your mx5 have some sort of performance. Plus mx5 owners want to see an MPS version of the mx5!

@smilepermile888 4 года назад

Consumables on the SLK55 are a lot more than that of the MX5. Also, the MX5 teaches you how to become a better driver too.

@MrMazda-ih8cw 7 лет назад

Im not 100% convinced that the extra cost is justified by the increased performance. The MX-5 has an earthy feel about it to begin with and its perfectly balanced out of the factory. For me, Ill choose no tuning. Great video though!

@patrickthornton5470 7 лет назад

Maybe if it was just the suspension upgrade. The stock suspension does not inspire much confidence

@heikopanzlaff3789 7 лет назад

Brakes need to be improved and the rev limiter has to vanish. Playing on the intake and exhaust of a skyactiv high compression ratio engine- maybe not a good idea... Hotter cams- why not . But that will give another 5 HP max . The MX 5 has already VVT. They have something done on the german spec ND 2,0 it sounds differently and they state 160 PS / 200 Nm / 215 KM /h top speed. Needs 98 octane fuel. Seems olso to have a stiffer suspension ( Bilstein ) with less body roll.

@GlassTopRX7 7 лет назад

Why on earth would you remove the rev limiter, the skyyactiv isn't a high revving engine to begin with.

@ruukasu71 5 лет назад

s2k bruh

@jimmyfarley5581 5 лет назад

Ok so money no barrier I'd love the 2019 MX-5 , soft top, with all the toys. Then yes equip it with all the lightweight bits and bobs, upgraded brakes , lightweight wheels with sticky tyres etc. But chuck the standard engine and drop in the N/A 3.2 litre 6 cylinder 355BHP engine from the E46 M3 CSL. That would be fucking stunning. Think of the noise. The N/A response and big revs. 355 bhp in a car that's around 200kg lighter than the car the engine came from. Yes please! Right I need to buy a lottery ticket.

@sultanofswingdrift3021 4 года назад

what in the world are you raving on about? Bastardazing the best of M3 to screw with miatas weight distribution? Also, I really doubt it will fit without major bodywork as S54 is a really large unit and ND bonnet isn't all that tall... Just stick supercharger and exhaust onto 2.0 and be done with it...

@gatoradeee 7 лет назад

Dat racing stripe

@GlassTopRX7 7 лет назад

Your just save you money and put a set of cup tires on one.

@clairebannister4749 7 лет назад

very nice, but for that money to you could have a Cayman or Boxster

@Guenounovitch 7 лет назад

who cares

@ralphaverill2001 7 лет назад

For the money you could have a bare-bones Cayman or Boxter. Also, as the owner of an MX-5, ('04 Mazdaspeed,) who has driven a Cayman on the track, I'll take the Miata any day.

@Guenounovitch 7 лет назад

Nice to read that ;) cheers

@finnmccool684 7 лет назад

I'm curious....why do prefer the Miata over the Cayman? Thanks.

@ralphaverill2001 7 лет назад

The Cayman seemed heavy and clunky compared to the light, nimble little '97 NA Miata I owned at the time. At my home track, Lime Rock Park, a short road track with more curve than straight, in the IMSA ST class, Miatas often beat the Caymans, Boxsters, and 3 series Beemers. Not so at the bigger road courses like Road America or Leguna Seca. I'm sure if I had had more time with the Cayman. it would have grown on me. If I ever get to a point where I can own a roadster and a coupe, the Cayman S would be my roadster choice. BTW, I am not a racer, I spend my quality driving time on twisty, hilly New England back roads, (very few cops,) at speeds between 40 and 80 mph. On these roads, even a 911 would have a hard time getting much over 90 or 100 mph on some of the ridge top straights.

@itsmylife4fucksake 4 года назад

This car, 1 ton 50-50 weight, and 220HP and u need turbo ??? Or never one with stronger engine and higher rev limiter and this mods. Why u need turbo :P For German highways only :P But still even if u need more, Supercharger, would be much better. with high revving engines. Would still retain Note on Exhaust, not like with turbos. Also throttle Control is better.

@the4armedmonk 7 лет назад

turbo!

@classiccarssp 7 лет назад

S2000 is the answer.. Buy it now because they will creep up in value! 😉

@paulobumaye6425 6 лет назад

And mileage..

@danielthomas2621 5 лет назад

But they are ugly cars

@drongojonkins8945 7 лет назад

The silly thing is that Mazda could have done most of that stuff from factory without affecting the price.

@Guenounovitch 6 лет назад

If i may, paid 1600 euros for emissions taxes with the 2.0 L. with 40 hp more it would be more than 3000 i think (in France)

@suryamp12 7 лет назад

hmm... s2000 vs this? hmmm.....

@ruskeee 7 лет назад

Less weight, more torque. This would destroy a stock S2000.

@suryamp12 7 лет назад

i doubt most people really care about lap times, but anyway, i'm thinking about which is the better weekender

@ruskeee 7 лет назад

Then even more so the Miata is the better choice. Modern car with modern tech features, nicer interior, more forgiving handling, and again midrange torque is what you can use all the time in street driving. The S2000 is all about top end horsepower, so you need more room to rev it out and around town it feels way slower because the low-mid range is dead. Also the S2000 is known for being more snappy when it loses grip, so unless you've really mastered the car you're gonna have less confidence pushing its limits.

@racoonguy9001 7 лет назад

What if Honda S2000 had updated 2016 tech? But it would be fun to have a totally restored Type One S2000 going up against this.

@suryamp12 7 лет назад

I just bought an S2000 and thats what my goal is. Updated stereo, tech, creature comforts and small subtle upgrades to make it a better all rounder car. I'm positive that I will still be spending less in total than a brand new Miata

@justchilling9442 7 лет назад

30k I would get a 3yr old Porsche Boxster with low miles.

@origtwyg 7 лет назад

And that's like comparing a Mustang to a Camaro, two different cars, two different styles. Plus, the TCO of the Porsche is significantly higher than the Mazda, even if you do your own work in the garage.

@patrickthornton5470 7 лет назад

+origtwyg huh? Do you mean mustang to a ford gt?

@Guenounovitch 6 лет назад

plz go for it

@sdlausen1 7 лет назад

Or... just buy a used s2000 for 1/2 the price. The end.

@andyc3080 5 лет назад

eh, still heavier

@viktorb9022 5 лет назад

and used :D

@danielthomas2621 5 лет назад

Ugly though

@sonicsabbath 3 года назад

Dunno about where you live, but I did own a S2000 for 7 years, and it was an amazing bullet-proof car, but I sold it for almost the same as I bought it - after 7 years and heaps of km. Looking at listings, the S2k is now much much more expensive. But that is here in Japan, so I do not know about where you live

@sdlausen1 3 года назад

@@sonicsabbath It's the same state side. I bought an ap1 about 7 years ago and now it's worth almost double of what I paid after putting 40k miles on it. There is a reason why prices are going up and Miata prices go down. Driving dynamics, the marvelous f20/22c engine, and exclusivity.

@brask310 7 лет назад

those interior shots were horrible. just look at the amount of shaking the camera is doing...

@Antenox 7 лет назад

brask310 British roads?

@arjuhama 7 лет назад

Lack of camera stabilization. Must've been shot with a GoPro.

@MagicAyrtonforever 5 лет назад

These tuned cars will shake your teeth out.. Get the new 180hp mx5 on non Bilstein standard suspension. Also that exhaust would drive me nuts after 30 mns.

@ozkanbenito1591 4 года назад

This guy looks extremely british

@ytxstream 7 лет назад

Put a super charger on it, no turbo

@berndblabla4249 7 лет назад

350hp mx5 for 6000€ with bigger clutch etc

@mistreku Год назад

you know what 30k could give you? a prestine Z4 M, with 140bhp more and a more prestige badge. also two extra cylinders.

@aceytoja 10 месяцев назад

It's also 500kg more, with way worse reliability 😪

@louisbabycos6095 7 лет назад

I would prefer a "flyin_miata" in keeping with sort of a poor man's AC cobra concept. "Flyin_Miata" is based in Colorado in America. No turbo. Just a light weight push rod 6.2 liter GM v8 shoehorned into a miata. Buy the miata pay an extra 75k US$ and you an innocuous look Mazda roadster that still retains its balance weighs 2700 lbs and has the roar,the thunder ,the beastly growl of American V8.

@dfnyc 7 лет назад

Actually you pay an extra $50k besides providing the car itself.

@erendyalatorre7785 7 лет назад

Louis babycos screw that diy and it would be roughly 20k

@mazdaman1980 7 лет назад

Wow, loosen up man, you are allowed to use your flaccid arms! Serious body language issues.

@Lead_Foot 4 года назад

It's almost as if personalities vary from person to person.

@chrisgregson3626 5 лет назад

Could get an entire S2000 for 8 grand in the UK. Already faster before you do anything to it. And you get an S2 instead of an mx5, which is better.

@GURken 5 лет назад

Is it some kind of masochism to buy a pile of rust for 8 grand? C'mon, this car is at least 10 yo, get over it, it would never be the same.

@chrisgregson3626 5 лет назад

@@GURken Haha. Pile of rust? I don't think I've ever seen an S2 with any rust on it. And here's a thought for you: my first car was a mk1 Mx-5, which was fun. It was also extremely slow and died because of excessive rust to the bodywork and subframe. More recently I've had an S2000 (12 years old), which is still faster than the latest Mx-5, looks great and certainly isn't falling apart due to corrosion. So I'm speaking with ownership experience of both cars when I make the assertion that an S2 is and will always be a superior car and better value (frankly, irrespective of price).

@smilepermile888 4 года назад

@@chrisgregson3626 Watch Zygrene's comparison video called 'Honda S2000 AP1 vs Mazda Miata ND2 - Head to Head Review!'. After watching that video, you'll realise that the ND2 with its updated 181hp engine is just as fast as the S2000 with circa 50hp more.

@waqarghulam3548 3 года назад

Just put a fucking Kawasaki H2R 300 bhp engine in it and stop arguing.

@fizzyelf7280 6 лет назад

Gt86 has more potential in tuning and it is faster

@93mlo 6 лет назад

Fizzy Elf the boxer engine is crap , so mx5 wins if you turbo it. Alot of people I know fucked their boxer engine because that crappy engine couldn't handle the turbo.

@azteka6103 4 года назад

save your time and money get a typer r stright away, its cheaper than all of this little bullshit wich is money and time consuming, not to mention when you need to visit the garage.

@ThemenschMusic 7 лет назад

worst advertisement ever

@MrOdeezie585 3 года назад

Gay Pistons imagine that...

@mikenewbold1699 7 лет назад

is this guy stupid 30k can get you a hell of a lot of car less than 3 years old

@racoonguy9001 7 лет назад

A totally new car rolled of the production line?

@mikenewbold1699 7 лет назад

Serious detroit supporter no did you read my comment?

@stuartchristie654 7 лет назад

Mike Newbold I went used slk55 AMG, same money...totally different ballpark

@Felyxorez 7 лет назад

your are stupid 30k can get you a hell of a lot of car less than 7 years old

@mikenewbold1699 7 лет назад

Felyxorez yes i are stupid

@matthewhowell1389 5 лет назад

It's Z not Zed, you guys the only English-speaking region the world that refers to Z as Zed. You don't have to add two extra letters to dress it up Z is simple enough