Allen Yeh I attended BIOLA way back when. I'm now in my 9th decade and have observed so many changes in the world and in the school. May I suggest that sometime in the very near future, you take 1:07:09 and listen to your teaching. Have a pencil, or pen, and paper and tally up how many times you say, "Right", "OK", or "Hmm" in that amount of time. Just a suggestion. Blessings and keep on keeping on ~ for HIM!
With regards to the adoption verse that you used Romans 8:15 If i still remember it, the context of that had nothing to do with gentiles being adopted into salvation. Verse 23 in the same chapter defined the meaning of that Adoption; it is a future promise for the believers in Christ "the redemption of our body". Remember we are not saved by adoption but by new birth (John 3).
I agree with are not saved by adoption but by new birth, but "adoption to sonship" makes it possible for the gentiles to be saved. So, Romans 8 is about salvation, in a general sense, regarding the gentiles.
@@mosesreza510 Yes, it is. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Four Groups Are Found in the Bible. 1- Angels- 2-Gentiles, 3Jews, 4 Church. God Is not Dealing with a Nation Nowadays. In this Dispensation He is Dealing With The Individual World Wide. in the old Covenant it was not Necessary to be Baptized to be saved. Now you must repent and be Baptized in Jesus Name Acts 2;38. There is No salvation If you sins are Not Forgiven. After The Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ will Fulfilled the Promises to the Jews. only a Remnant will get to see That. . Do not Mix the groups. They are two Different Agendas.
"rightly dividing the word of truth" if you look it up in context has to do with ordering the events of the ressurection. some have destroyed the faith of people by getting it wrong. rightly diving escatological events is "rightly dividing the word of truth"
Wrong! Rightly divide is in one verse and only in the kjv 2nd Timothy 2:15 The greek word king james translated to divide is ORTHOTOMEO meaning to cut straight and true. From what i understand if you read the whole 2 letters ( not one verse) Paul is writing to timothy teaching him to teach the gospel straight and true and without error. The word divide in this instance was taken from othomeo, paul is telling Timothy to teach straight and true and soundly and to rebuke and refute anything contrary to the one true Gospel. God already divided it, OT and Nt
its funny when people say dispensationalism is not biblical and they just parrot what they heard. any dispensationalist could show you dispensationalism all through the scripture even if they aren't experts or theologians. dispensationalism was revealed as a mystery by Jesus Himself to Paul the apostle and only those who get a revelation from Jesus will see it in the bible. plain and simple God hides mysteries only revealed to whom he chooses to reveal them.
It would be no different than claiming my child was saved because he was a member of the church through my joining even though I might be saved and a member of the church. I am no covenant theologian, but this is why I am no dispensationalist either. It seems when the two schools start interpreting the Bible by their theology rather than their theology by their Bible then all things go haywire. Salvation is not in ethnicity, but in the Lord through faith! The church did not replace Israel.
The church could have replaced Israel, but evidence is not conclusive. There are a lot of implicit hints, and that is why the debate rages on. I totally agree with you. These "-ism" theories are just human construct in a flawed attempt to clarify God's will. I subscribe to neither also, and would even venture to say that making either one definitive would be a neo-gnosticism. The idea that there is a secret key, system, or knowledge, i.e. these "-isms," to understand the Truth is just dangerous.
@@BirdylocksoAugustine and Calvin are responsible for bringing stoicism/ Gnosticism into the church.. 1st century apostolic teaching looks nothing like covenant theology..it’s closer to dispensational but not wholly
I've been on the mission field for 3 decades, and I didn't know much about all these -isms. So actually, it definitely does NOT depend on these -isms to do the mission. You just do it, because the Bible says so. But, I've got to give it to the theologians for coming up with ways to argue definitively for something that is meant to be vague. In fact, didn't human being get in all sorts of trouble for their desire to know more about things may or may not meant for them to know, starting with Adam/Eve to David counting the fighting men, or even to the Gnostics? Eucharist interpretations also largely divided the Protestant movement. It seems the more we try to know, the worse we find ourselves at. Yet, the Gospel was meant to be received with a childlike disposition.
HUH? I have never seen such error in interpreting the Scriptures! How can the church be the new Israel when the Lord distinguishes between Jews and Gentiles in the Pauline Epistles? How can we be Jews when we are Gentiles? Paul NEVER redefined what it was to be a Jew. What Paul did was show that the chosen child of the Lord was the Jew that was a Jew by faith as opposed to one born into the nation.
@Chad Bush, The church could have replaced Israel, but evidence is not conclusive. There are a lot of implicit hints, and that is why the debate rages on. I totally agree with you. These "-ism" theories are just human construct in a flawed attempt to clarify God's will. I subscribe to neither also, and would even venture to say that making either one definitive would be a neo-gnosticism. The idea that there is a secret key, system, or knowledge, i.e. these "-isms," to understand the Truth is just dangerous.
Biola stood for Bible Institute, of Los Angeles....changed into Biola University.....where the study, of the Bible seems to have been relegated to a minor sector of that university...
Those who ignore the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 will continue to be in error. Christ said at Matthew 26:28 that He would fulfill this covenant in His Blood. It is found in effect at Hebrews 8:6-13 and in verse 13 we find that the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant "obsolete". It is applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:18-24. It is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20. The New Covenant was promised to Israel and Judah. On the Day of Pentecost Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", then as "men of Israel" and in Acts 2:36 as "all the house of Israel". On that day about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised to Jeremiah. If you look in the 1599 Geneva Bible, which is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, you will find that the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 is the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28. Dispensationalists have created a time machine by changing a covenant confirmed by Christ into a treaty broken by an antichrist not mentioned by the angel Gabriel, by adding a "gap" of time not mentioned by the angel. It also ignores any time that the Gospel was taken to Daniel's people during the first century, even though Christ clearly commanded that the Gospel was to be taken "first" to the Israelites. It was not taken to the Gentiles until after Stephen reviewed the whole history of Israel and was then stoned to death. God ripped the temple veil in half on the day of Calvary. If God ripped the veil, who is going to repair it? Yet Dispensationalists claim God is going to deal with the modern nation of Israel under the now "obsolete" Old Covenant during a future time period of 7 years when they will go back to keeping the Sinai covenant. They claim the Age of Grace ends even though the New Covenant is "everlasting". They ignore those under the Blood of the Lamb in Revelation 12:11. A person cannot be under the Blood of the Lamb and not be under the Grace of the New Covenant. The 144,000 are described as "firstfruits" of the Lamb. Paul uses the same term to describe Christians in Romans 16:5. The Olive Tree of Romans 11 is a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of Israelites and Gentiles grafted together into one tree. Paul says that the branches broken off can be grafted back into the tree through faith in Christ. Paul provides no other path of salvation. Dispensationalists have changed the word "so", which is an adverb of manner, into the word "then", which is an adverb of timing, in Romans 11:26. In verse 27 they have taken the New Covenant fulfilled at Calvary for all races of people and have converted it into a covenant to be fulfilled in the future. You will almost never hear a sermon on the New Covenant in a Dispensational church, because the New Covenant destroys the doctrine. If you want to see the origin of the doctrine, watch the RU-vid video "Genesis of Dispensational Theology".
SpotterVideo as long as you follow replacement theology your not going to understand end time escontology. the chuch and Israel are not the same now. 2 Corinthians 5 17 says we are a new creature in Christ. are the Jews in Israel and around the world in Christ right now? nope. gal 3 26 29 says if you are in Christ you are one. are the Jews in Israel and around the world in Christ right now? nope. that's the whole purpose of Daniel's 70th week, God Is going to use that week to bring a remnant of the Jewish people into his kingdom just as zechariah 13 8 9 and Romans 11 states.
Replacement Theology usually makes the following claim..."The Gentile Church has replaced Israel". The problem is that the Church as a whole has never been a Gentile Church. On the Day of Pentecost Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", then as "men of Israel", and in Acts 2:36 as "all the house of Israel". Why? Because Peter was talking to Israelites. On that day about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13. The Church began as a Church made up of Israelites. The problem is that Dispensationalists like you claim that the Church today is a "Gentile Church" in order to make John Darby's doctrine work. You are replacing the One Seed in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds. You are replacing the Children of the Promise, with the Children of the Flesh in Romans 9:8. You are replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then". You are replacing the covenant fulfilled at Calvary in Romans 11:27, with a covenant to be fulfilled in the future. You are ignoring the warning about genealogy in Matthew 3:9, and 1 Timothy 1:4. The greatest error of your doctrine is the claim that modern Jews will come to salvation outside of the New Covenant Church. You may want to read Paul's warning in Galatians 1:6-9. It we want modern Jews to be saved, share with them "the suffering servant" of Isaiah chapter 53, and the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and the timeline of Daniel chapter 9. These Hebrew scriptures prove that the baby born in a manger is the New Covenant Messiah promised by God in Genesis 3:15.
SpotterVideo For starters there were ònly 2 tribes of israel in Israel when the church began. Judah and Benjamin Second the new covenant replaced the old covenant. It did not replace israel as God's chosen people The church today is made up with both Jew and gentile. But the church predominantly is gentile why is that? Because God has blinded israel in part till the fulness of the Gentiles has come in. Someone has been feeding you lies dispensationilist know and understand that Israel is God's chosen people and that God still has plans for his chosen people. You reject that. See for you it's all about the church. The church is taken out of the way before Daniel's 70th week begins so we are in heaven with Jesus during Daniel's 70th week going through the Beama seat judgement and wedding and wedding feast. And this lie that you follow that Darby invented the pre trib rapture is hog wash Paul, and the early church fathers all taught a pre trib rapture agian someone is feeding you lies. If a post trib rapture were true you would be able to explain how the earth gets repopulated during the millennial kingdom and you can't, oh you try and say unsaved people or there is no repopulating but God's word clearly says the earth will be repopulated And no we know that after the spiritual seed is taken out of the way God will turn his attention back to the natural seed of Abraham and bring a remnant of the Jewish people into his kingdom just as zechariah 13 8 9 and Romans 11 states . The promise is kept to the spiritual seed of Abraham we are raptured before God turns his attention back to the natural seed And once agian someone is feeding you a bunch of hog wash. There's only one way to God for both Jew and gentile and that's through Jesus. In fact israel has never had a special way to God period. It's always been granted to them as faith Fact is your an antisemitic you believe the church has replaced Israel as God's chosen people now and all the promises and blessing that are Israel's are now the churches. And because you have replaced Israel with the church you have no understanding of what God's plan is for his church nor his chosen people israel. Just like you say the rapture takes place at the second coming. If it does then how does the earth get repopulated. Where do you think Jesus is physically at when Rev 19 20 and Rev 20 1 3 take place?
It is quite ironic to hear you label me as "anti-Semitic", when my wife and I support two ministries which are now sharing the Gospel with the Jewish people. If you say modern Israelites are "God's chosen people", you are saying what John the Baptist told his people not to say in Matthew 3:9, and you are ignoring the warning about genealogy in 1 Timothy 1:4. God has not "partially blinded" the Jewish people. Some of them have been blinded and some of them have not. You do not need to tell me there were only two tribes on the Day of Pentecost. You need to tell Peter instead, since he used the words "all the house of Israel" in Acts 2:36. You are arguing with Peter, instead of me. You are correct about the New Covenant making the Old Covenant "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13. In saying this you have destroyed classic Dispensational Theology which claims that God will deal with the modern State of Israel under the Old Covenant system. Nobody will come to salvation outside of the New Covenant Church during a future period of time. There is no Plan B, based on John 10:16. There is one flock and One Shepherd.
if you want to learn about dispensationalism ask a credible dispensationalist. there is much misinformation on this subject everywhere especially on youtube. people parrot what they hear instead of seeking God and reading his word. if you humbly ask God to show you his mystery of the dispensation of Grace he will reveal it to those open seeking and humble.
You sound like a gnostic who believe a hidden knowledge through which to understand the Truth. Bible is the entire revelation, so there is no need to seek additional revelation of "mystery." The Gospel is meant for average Joe, and it is not hard to understand the important issue. Besides, as far as theories go, dispensationalism has seen branches after branche or modifications upon modifications. Like an "open source" theory, there are many versions now today, each touting to be the most accurate. At the end of the day, it's just a theory, made up by men, albeit with good intentions.
your definition of dispensationalism is wrong........it is not a system that teaches seven dispensations. it is a literal historical grammatical contextual hermanuetic when used reveals that God is dealing with people differently in different ages under different leaders in time. It distinguishes ISRAEL as separate from the church in bible application and bible prophecy. it distinguishes that Christians are not under the law of moses because jesus fullfilled the law and died to graft gentiles in. Israel having rejected largely God's messiah has been set on hold "CUT OFF" in God's program until "the fullness of the Gentiles have come in" . PAULS epistles are the revelation of God's mysterious dispensation of GRACE which was not previously known. also paul reveals the mystery of ISRAELS(future) salvation. dispensationalism is a MYSTERY REVEALED directly to PAUL for Gentiles.
Hmmm, that's not what Jesus taught. Dispensationalism divides Gods people and is not Biblical, since there are ---NO--- Two Peoples of God in John 10:16: John 10:16, KJV: "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." ... They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd." Nor is it taught anywhere else in the New Testament.
@@e.garcia618 Thank you. We have to ignore scripture if we want to believe dispensationalism. “Jesus ain’t say that” is the best response we can give them.
@@joematlock Dispensatanism is the cult of removing the Words of Christ as valid, because, we are told... we no longer live in THAT era dispensation. A cult has the fundamental foundation of removing God and replacing Him with man... in this case, Paul. A dispensation has absolutely nothing to do with an era of time, but rather a message that an individual was given to dispense. Paul indeed gave a message of grace....as did Jesus, according to Jude. Paul never gave the message of repentance, just because the Word does not record that Paul ever taught on repentance, doesn't mean it is part of salvation. Jude informs us that WICKED men have crept in and changed the message and meaning of grace to lewdness or lasciviousness and that we need to earnestly contend for the message of grace that Jesus first taught. In fact, they tell us that only Paul taught on grace, and ignore what Jude has to say. Dispensationalist have no clue what the meaning of grace that Jesus taught, and as a result, they teach which Jude refers to as WICKED. Peter also addresses the wickedness. After Peter taught the church that Jesus will return as a thief in the night when the heavens are destroyed with a great noise, he goes on to inform us that WICKED men twist Paul's teaching of eschatology as they do all of Scripture. Paul NEVER taught a pretrib rapture, and dispensationalism is the all of Scripture that first must be taught in order to receive the secondary doctrine of the 'rapture'.? Dispensational heretics! There is only one Gospel! Jesus taught the gospel the same gospel that Paul preached (death, burial, and resurrection) in Mark 8:28-30 28 And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets. 29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ. 30 And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.?
Neither did Israel become the church. The church was a new thing the Jews could not fathom. The Jews existed alongside the church while Paul sought to establish many churches. Thus to state that either of these entities replace the other is a failed interpretation and right division of the Scriptures. If this is the level of education which occurs at BIOLA I would not recommend it for any training of a theological nature. What I have seen is a sad example of exegesis.
Gawd is going to consign all the jews who don't covert to eternal torment? Isn't that a little bit harsh, Allen? Does your mother know that you're saying all these nasty things? Also, I have Jewish and Christian friends who would consider this notion to be very anti-semetic.
+wiskadjak John 3:18 includes Jew and non-Jew on an equal basis. ""He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God".
This guy begins with a false hermeneutic. He fiddles around with definitions to obscure the Biblical text. We know that in the present context ISRAEL IS ISRAEL. What utter obfuscation of the Biblical teaching.
@@flamingrobin5957 The meaning of Israel is not confined to the territory itself. The correct interpretation of Israel after Jesus is the chosen one who accepts Jesus as the savior. Therefore the foundation of Israel is no relevant to Christian or not biblically meaningful at all
this guy doesnt know what he's tlaking about....he's biased and uneducated about dispensationalism he's merely parroting the anti dispensationalism rhetoric. Any dispensationalist with any credibility would open the bible and show you how they derive at their beliefs
right is revealing his inner man....he wants to be "Right" which is why he teaches so wrong. the mystery of the dispensation of Grace has nothing to do with human wisdom, intellectualism, theologians or human ability. It is God's grace given to gentiles as a mystery.
I actually liked this right until the point where he talks about literal adoption. Nothing wrong with adoption at all, on the contrary. However. that has absolutely nothing to do with faith and salvation. Maybe he should search his own heart on this issue. Adoption is a very private matter and should not in a lecture on dispensationalism!?
Bad habit dude to end most of your sentences w/ the word "RIGHT". Overused & misused of it distort the meaning of your sentences. Example: "So what happens to the Jews? Right? Are the Jews out of plan now? Right? (28:05) et al... " Analyze the sentence & ask yourself if it's sensible? Overused of the word "RIGHT" in interrogative form is not only annoying , it breaks the flow of your thought. AT any rate you can always practice public speaking or enroll in Speech 101 to polish your thoughts & delivery of message. BTW never assume the audience know what you are talking about. You should have surveyed your audience in advanced & when you stand behind the podium, don't be so squeamish, grab it- it's your day to deliver your lecture & serve the Lord! Thanks for posting....
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