Beating Range Anxiety: Mental Models (And How They Can Help You Be A More Confident EV Driver!)

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We've talked about range anxiety on this channel a lot - and offered our own take on how to combat it on long-distance trips and during daily driving.
Sadly, many people seem to think that range anxiety can be solved with ever-increasingly large battery packs and ultra-fast charging, but as many established EV owners know, a lot of range anxiety can be combated through familiarity, and some changes in mental patterns.
Now there's academic research to back that up, courtesy of Professor Frances Sprei from Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden, and Professor Willett Kempton
from the University of Delaware. Called Mental models guide, electric vehicle charging, it discusses how EV owners can combat range anxiety by changing how they think about (and carry out) charging.
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00:00 - Introduction
03:25 - How the study was carried out
05:08 - Sweden's long-history with test fleets for EVs
07:20 - The three different charging modes discovered
11:05 - "Being engaged" in charging
12:39 - Hyper-fixation on gas-station experience
14:28 - How people percieve energy - and charge
16:42 - People treating EVs like mobile phones
18:29 - What are the biggest concerns about EV charging?
21:46 - Can Governments help?
24:12 - When does a transition of experience occur?
26:26 - Dealerships need to play their part
30:19 - Thanks and Goodbye!
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Links:
- Professor Frances Sprei, Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden: research.chalmers.se/en/perso...
- Professor Willett Kempton, University of Delaware : www.udel.edu/academics/colleg...
Read their paper: Mental models, electric vehicle charging : research.chalmers.se/en/publi...
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Presenter, Script, Audio: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield
Guest: Professor Frances Sprei, Chalmers University of Technology.
Camera, Editor, Colorist: M. Horton
Art and Animation: Erin Carlie
Producer: Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield
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@Russwig 26 дней назад

Thanks Nikki and Prof. Sprei. It is nice to see this topic covered from an academic POV. Keep Evolving!!!

@crm114. 26 дней назад

It’s not range anxiety, it’s charging anxiety- will there be a queue at the charger and will it work?

@irenecheca6575 26 дней назад

@transportevolved I think you meant to reply to the comment above about the T-shirt. This comment here is spot on.

@transportevolved 26 дней назад

Thank you for letting us know. YT doesn't always attach the comment to the right one. We're trying again!

@RajGiandeep 25 дней назад

Good point. Where I recently moved to. There is only 1 level 2 charger near me & it's only 2 ports. I live in an apartment so I rely on public charging to get around. At least there is a city building that's close that offer free 110V charging, so I have to plan ahead & never "rely" on the level 2 charger. It's nice when it's open, but I can never count on it.

@cyberoptic5757 26 дней назад

thanks Nikki... I keep reminding myself that most driving is local. Local means lots of short hops. The formula that keeps me calm is local driving and a.home charger. We added some solar, so we are actually using very little petroleum.

@ouch1011 26 дней назад

Fascinating, love this video. Based off of many people that I’ve spoken to, I can make 2 generalizations. People who know a little bit about EVs are hyper-fixated on range and charging time because they don’t know how to use an EV and are unrealistic about how they actually use their vehicle. Theu ignore the fact that 95+% of their vehicle usage is short range, either in town or commuting to/from work, and that the vast majority of their charging could be done while they’re at work or at home. They always want to know how far they can drive on a single charge, where they can charge on the road and how long that will take, despite the fact that road trips make up maybe 2-5% of the annual miles the average person drives, because they imagine that a charging stop on the road means that they’re just standing there staring at the charger the entire time. These are the same type of people who will spend $70k+ on a fully loaded, full size truck because they tow their boat 50 miles to the lake once a year. This is a very common mentality in the US and holds a lot of people back. People who have done research on EVs, have a solid grasp on their actual driving habits, and actually know how they use their vehicle start to look at where they can charge their car _overnight_ , because this is actually *way* more important than charging during a road trip. For most people out there, if you can charge at home or at work, an EV would work great for you. If you really, truly can’t charge at home or work, you fall into the extremely small portion of the population that legitimately would be burdened by an EV. As far as experience and comfort level, I think that is largely determined by time *and* what kind of driving. My husband has been driving an EV exclusively for his daily commute since 2020. He drives, on average, 25k miles per year, an in an EV. Using that math, he’s probably driven about 100k miles in an EV. However, if he needed to drive on a road trip by himself, he would insist on taking our Model 3 _specifically_ because of the built-in route planning. He doesn’t want to plan the route himself or think about where he needs to charge. He has driven a non-Tesla on a short road trip (about 400 miles total) and had range anxiety-not because of the car, but because he wasn’t confident in his plan. I’ve been driving EVs slightly longer, but probably fewer actual miles than him because my commute is shorter, but I’ve driven way more road trips. I’d drive anywhere in the country in an EV, Tesla or not. So, the point at which a person transitions to an “EV power user” really depends on their experiences in an EV, not so much just how long they’ve been driving one.

@bigtenpochet 26 дней назад

Nailed it! Range Anxiety is all about trusting what the vehicle is telling you....and that only matters on a road trip which is probably less than 10-20% of the time for most people. In a Tesla, the trip planning/navigation does all the work, no thinking, resulting in nearly zero range anxiety. The one exception to this has been dynamic weather conditions (mostly cold and windy conditions) where the you just need to add an extra 10% to the battery to eliminate the anxiety. I find that most of the people that talk about range anxiety, or talk about "needing" 400 miles of range in an EV are those that have never had any experience with an EV. I also find it interesting that the people that buy plugin hybrids so that they can avoid range anxiety, might actually have way more "range anxiety" because they only have 30-50 miles of driving in the battery, thus they are always thinking about charging. If they would have just purchased a full BEV, they would actually have LESS range anxiety.

@John.0z 26 дней назад

I agree, in fact the only reason why we do not have range anxiety for our ICE cars is the easy availability of fuelling stations all around our various countries. When I was driving up the west coast of Australia I had modest range anxiety once I got outside the built-up area centred on Perth. Outside the few towns up the coast, you are reliant on the many but still sparse, "Road Houses" that combine fuel sales, meals (and toilets!), and overnight accommodation. It was essential to plan each day - and so I see no change once there are chargers available at all the road houses. BTW I would expect all of those road houses to install extensive power generation and power storage - it would quite likely provide a more reliable source of income than the oil companies do. AND local generation will make them less reliant of transport links during times when heavy rains close the roads to big trucks.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

People should evaluate by numbers, is it is it worth $10,000 or $20,000 for you to not have to stop to charge as many with a longer range Eevee or drive gasser + gas & maintainance

@sheaashler7499 25 дней назад

for me (don't own electric car) my problem is price of car, and you for my need/price would need to charge the car every day, where it it is a ice i would need to fuel it 1 a week

@toyotaprius79 25 дней назад

It's infuriating but we resist and insist

@MarkSpohr 26 дней назад

Great information. My personal experience driving EVs for the past 10 years is that I have become a lot less anxious about range. I really don't worry about it any more... even on long distance trips. (It also has helped that EV chargers have become more available.)

@sirenbrian 26 дней назад

I've had this idea that it would help if EV charging stations had big signs showing the price, like gas stations do. Think of how many non-EV drivers would roll past them and notice the sign and realize there's EV charging available. By regularly seeing it on their usual drive, they'd get accustomed to the idea that EV charging is available in their area and maybe consider driving one instead of an ICE vehicle. (Your guest made the point about signs in the interview too.) Nice interview Nikki!

@Pottery4Life 26 дней назад

Thank you, Nikki and Prof. Sprei. I enjoyed this talked and really enjoyed the video format and quality.

@xiaowei1 26 дней назад

I have been driving EV's for about 11 years. I've never had any concerns with range anxiety. I've also only used an external charger source about 6 times, with only 2 time being necessary. The transition was eased by owning a first gen Volt to start with (as they have an internal generator when the battery is drained) before going pure electric. Modern electric cars with 400 km+ range has made a huge difference to this issue.

@StephenMatrese 25 дней назад

I've used external/public "chargers" about a dozen times (~3 I found out failed- GM Bolt EUV charger failure... 33 days and since then I've had a traction control failure... likely a failure related to the 12v system). The camera have an issue and, like the 12v issue) I'm afraid to bring the car in to the dealership... how low will they have it? Oh, and the infotainment system went back and frozen a few times, It's true, never buy a car the first or last year. PA's lemon law says they get 3 attempts OR 30 days, they exceeded 30 days, so I'm likely going for a buyback and getting a new [all electric] EV. Any feedback on people's (peoples'?) experience is welcome. I'm looking for something lower cost, although I do have more than I thought due to my mom's passing in February.

@xiaowei1 24 дня назад

@@StephenMatrese Sorry to hear of your mothers passing, and of the issues with the car - more so your mother. As for your next pick, I hear the Atto 3 is pretty good, the GM4 is also fairly good too. there were massive discounts on the outgoing Peugeot 2008 in Australia, perhaps they are doing the same where you are. At the original price they did not make any sense, but they are discounting around 40%. The car itself is quite solid, just the range was not a lot at 330km as it had a fairly small battery. But for the discounted price it was pretty good value. I do note it is an outgoing model.

@smortg 26 дней назад

I realised that range anxiety turned to range hubris after the first week of using my Kia Soul with a degraded battery (probably 50 miles in winter) Once you get stoic about your limits, you get better at planning without it feeling like a chore. Ironically, in 3500 miles of driving, I've only ran out of range once - about 100 metres from my house because I didn't feel like using any of the chargers en route from my workplace to home That first week is still a real adjustment period for someone who hasn't experienced and gotten through it, which is naturally what holds people back. My next EV will likely have double, if not triple the range of my current one, which would feel like a luxury and make life easier for friends and family to use my car

@jdear97 26 дней назад

Tesla has done a really good job with the software in the car. You get reminders if you are driving too fast to make it to your destination and it will reroute if you need to charge. It is not perfect but it is better then most of the other options that are not in the vehicle.

@StephenMatrese 18 дней назад

The states must hate that, they lose more tax money, I mean "fines" for speeding In PA, our "genius" GOP thinks a $290 additional registration fee for EVs (5,034.7222 gallons of $0.576 gas tax... highest gas tax in the nation) because their fee-fees are so hurt. My Dad's 2-17 Jetta would get 41-43 MPG (he also never bought new brakes , he just drove smart), not sure about the average, but I get 4.8-5m/kWh with my Bolt EUV (I want the Bolt EV, but they had none). I'll save 40 MPG. Break-even 201,389 miles @ 40MPG 176,215.3 miles @ 35 MPG 151,042 miles @ 30 MPG PA Republicans love to tax... certain groups

@markiliff 26 дней назад

I visited my first Gridserve charging hub last month (Norwich). The biggest surprise was the large number of ICE cars parked there: if you provide an attractive environment, people just enjoy breaking their journey

@fynfynsidian1870 26 дней назад

I took a trip up into the mountains to get my stepdaughter from college, 120 miles, 6000 ft climb on a 75mph freeway, the car got 2.7mi/kWh arriving at EA charger with 37%. From 90%. Back down it was 4.6mi/kWh and arrived back with 52%. It was informative for future trips. (2024 Ioniq5 RWD 77kWh battery). The only potential anxiety was only the one 4 charger EA station location- I did plan a detour to a charger on the way home if the charger by the college was offline when I arrived. In the near future the Rivian chargers there will open up as well

@rp9674 26 дней назад

Did you even need to charge for the return question mark

@fynfynsidian1870 26 дней назад

@@rp9674 if I had charged to 100% in Anthem and not to just 90% I could have likely made with a bit to spare but leaving Flagstaff with 37% and 115 miles to go I didn't want to worry and I was doing an up/down efficiency test. I used 71.5 kWh

@rp9674 26 дней назад

@@fynfynsidian1870makes sense, I'd probably do the same

@erktrek 26 дней назад

Thanks again! Nice to see some things quantified like the importance of establishing a known charger, also thinking about battery life like a cell phone. I found that by switching my EV from remaining range to battery percent reduced a lot of the initial range anxiety and over time gave me a greater sense of what I was doing with the vehicle - very similar to the EF gauge on an ICE vehicle. It's also true that when charging at home, I now don't even think about range issues at all. One thing that got me at first was being told to only charge to 80% due to my NMC battery chemistry... Seems like a bit of a bait and switch but soon realized I could charge to 100% for longer trips if needed.

@gunnarparment5050 25 дней назад

You mean your car didn't show both? My car always shows both estimated km left and percentage.

@rj7855 26 дней назад

i only got nervous once, the planned fastcharger site was closed because they were expansion it, my partner missed the exit for the next charger on route just located just before the road entered a national park that was a charger desert. In the end I had to make an detour to a small town that officially had a 7.4kW charger but no way to know if it was working and free. Lucky it was and after a 40 minute coffee break I had enough juice to reach the closest 100kW charger

@robingoergner725 26 дней назад

An interesting conservation and helpful for understanding how we can facilitate the transition to a more sustainable and accessible transportation system. Thanks.

@teardowndan5364 26 дней назад

The biggest problem with EV range is that there is a ~20% chance that when you do reach the charger on a road trip, it might not actually work. Having to find an L2 plug and wait there for 30+ minutes just to get enough range to reach the next fast-charger and wait yet another 15-40 minutes there is a major inconvenience. There is also the issue of slow fast-chargers, unpredictable charging times due to some fast-charging sites hitting their site power limit, chargers sharing power between plugs, chargers de-rating themselves for various reasons, many EVs having slow "fast" charging, etc. Then there is also the problem of grossly under-served highway stretches as most fast-charging infrastructure is near urban centers to stand the highest chance of breaking even, instead of middle-of-nowhere where they are most desperately needed to relieve range anxiety. The EV roadtrip charging experience has a severe lack of consistency. Even ICE drivers would think twice before leaving town on a 100km highway stretch that has no visible gas stations near it if the gas filling experience was as inconsistent on speed and reliability as non-Tesla fast-charging currently is.

@salibaba 26 дней назад

A very intriguing guest speaker. A very good format btw.

@matthewbaynham6286 26 дней назад

It's good to see a different format of video, I hope you have some more experts to interview.

@johntrotter8678 26 дней назад

Renting electric cars is an interesting experience in getting comfortable with charging. Generally, it is for travel where "at home" charging isn't normal. I have rented Tesla in Europe and non-Tesla (=CCS) in America. The Europe experience was OK, but US experience with a rented CCS-equipped car was terrible. I was unfamiliar with the car and the CCS world was so uncertain. I can see why rental car companies have not found it popular to offer BEVs.

@jamesphillips2285 26 дней назад

I probably count as an "early adopter", despite getting my first EV this year. One thing not mentioned yet was automation in charging. My 2011 Leaf has a charge timer programmed to avoid the high electrical demand time between 5:30PM and midnight. I also have it set to "battery preservation mode", where it only charges to 80% (unless overridden by a button left of the steering wheel). During range testing were were definitely "engaged in charging" for around 90 minutes. Don't really want to wander away during fast charging.

@chrisconklin2981 26 дней назад

Hear in the USA, I wish the rate of building charging stations was faster. One idea concerns self-driving EVs. A real drawback is street parking. With self-driving EVs, how about sending your EV our for a late night charging (or a pizza). Another idea would be a charging delivery service. Even an automated EV that delivers curbside charging, and pizzas..

@williamclark6466 14 дней назад

This is an excellent discussion around EV adoption and how people can approach their charging. I really enjoyed this. Thank you!

@toyotaprius79 25 дней назад

Love the flair in your hair with your top and specs altogether, Nikki! Excellent video, interviews or collabs included in your content are definitely a good watch and listen!

@peteowens3033 26 дней назад

Good to see studies are being done on these issues. I know in my case these are the exact reasons that I continue to also have an ICE vehicle available for the 5% or so of times range and charging anxiety prevents me from feeling comfortable in driving my LEAF on trips outside of its battery range. I have tried it several times in the last year or so but I feel it is just not worth the dollar savings weighed against the difficulties of finding working Chademo chargers on such trips. I really hate it because I would prefer to drive my LEAF. I am hopeful this will improve but in my particular case I am afraid it will require more charging stations AND the development of an AFFORDABLE and RELIABLE CCS1 to Chademo adapter.

@D0li0 26 дней назад

Really great interview.

@beanapprentice1687 18 дней назад

Wow, a very thorough and insightful interview. As someone who’s really into EVs, I learned a lot about the perspective of non-enthusiast people regarding the usage of EVs.

@rbdogwood 26 дней назад

Having gone from a (UK) 110 mile range vehicle to a 300 mile I really don't worry about it. Even before I only considered the matter when doing long journeys, perhaps 2 or 3 times a year. The maps and apps on my phone do all the precision stuff. What I would like is a detail added to the satnav maps so that each road mile had the amount of energy required in each direction. that could be summed for predicted routes in the same way that journey time is. The actual times and consumption could easily be added if the telemetry was fed to a central 'brain' and probably already is for the more sophisticated apps. As an extra thought, the dealerships rarely knew much about the ICE cars they sold, so not much has changed.

@ojeje1 26 дней назад

This is a great interview but what is missing in the quality of the fast charging infrastructure - how many are broken and how it affects range anxiety.

@transportevolved 26 дней назад

That really *wasn't* the focus on the interview, however, - Feel free to read the paper though (it's linked in the show notes)

@WanderingCactus 24 дня назад

Honestly my rule of thumb is just remember what it was like to drive a car in the 80s and you'll be fine. Back then we didn't have pay at the pump, it wasn't uncommon for you to need a station specific card, and stations weren't 24 hours, so when traveling you never went under a quarter tank, and always have a plan b in case the station is closed when you get there.

@larrycerniglia2793 23 дня назад

A simple low-cost easy way to help ease range anxiety and get more people to consider EVS is to have EV charging available signage put up on the interstate highways. Exits have signs for food, lodging, and fuel but never for charging. I know that you can find these stations on apps, but you wouldn't look for them if you were driving an ICE car. This would boost confidence in the non-EV driver to eventually make the switch.

@ChrisBigBad 22 дня назад

human looking for charging @20:16 was very cute and also made me laugh a bit :D thanks

@barryw9473 26 дней назад

I plan ahead with my e-Golf and have no issues. Cars with built in navigation (not my car) are super easy to use on road trips and don’t need advanced planning for most trips.

@nettlesoup 26 дней назад

Good stuff, thank you! As someone without home charging, it's definitely the local public 7 or 22 kW chargers I'm going to seek out once or twice a week. Either a short 5-8 minute walk in the early morning (nice to hear the birds singing when the roads are quiet) or an on-street charger very close to where I'd normally park for my lunchtime walk to get coffee and do a food shop. I probably rely on the local Tesla Supercharger less than four times a year, and then only for a five minute splash and dash. It's cheaper than council public fast charging but not by enough of a margin to make it worth the extra few blocks to drive there. I'd rather stay local and turn it into a good excuse for a walk around my area.

@matthewknobel6954 26 дней назад

I have had my EV (ID4) now for about 3+ years. Around town where I live and where I can charge at home, I don't think about range much at all, unless I am below 20%. However, there are many rural areas of the country where the distance between chargers is still > DCFC 90 miles and you account for 400-1000' elevation changes and -15F+ temps there are true issues with range anxiety and real world range loss and how that is calculated. This is why often for long distance travel to visit relatives for thanksgiving through easter, I have to depend on an ICE car because EV just can physically make it.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

Elevation doesn't affect EVS, every building has electricity even in rural so there's potential

@Crisman111 26 дней назад

I totally agree. I look forward to the day when, like gasoline stations today, we just know there will be an appropriate charge option waiting for us when we need it. As for now, I use a hybrid when going longer distances, but love my EV for day-to-day use.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

@Crisman111 if charging was where it should be, we could go back to shorter range EVS, that could be the answer to cheap new EVS, 120 mile range with chargers everywhere

@rp9674 26 дней назад

@@Crisman111I used to use 120 volt charging at work, it was enough to get me home

@Crisman111 26 дней назад

@@rp9674 I opt to just use level 1 at home and charge to 80% every day. This is more than enough for my daily driving. There is no need for the expense of adding a level 2 charger to my home.

@muskrat3291 25 дней назад

I did a lot of research before buying my EV so I never had range anxiety. However, when I drove ICE I use to have gas price anxiety.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

California state law (Civil Code section 1947.6) requires landlords to approve tenant requests to install EV charging stations in their dedicated parking spaces so long as the tenant is willing to pay for the charging station and associated costs, including installation and utility costs.

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

The tenant moves and loses all the money paid in. A wise purchase?

@rp9674 26 дней назад

Sorry, you might need to apply some brain power to the situation, I'm out of silver platters

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

@@rp9674 You can't acknowledge what I stated is the truth, is indicative of a cretin's reply, yours.

@ab-tf5fl 26 дней назад

@@mikewallace8087 Well, the tenant is certainly no worse off have the option vs. not having it. If it doesn't make financial sense, they don't have to use it. But, yes, while "right to charge laws" do help, they are not a magic panacea.

@scottstormcarter9603 24 дня назад

Another unique topic not generally covered by EV channels on RU-vid.

@neeld.5522 26 дней назад

Do you guys get more revenue if I fully watch both 3min ads? I can't support any other way from my country.

@StephenMatrese 25 дней назад

26:00 Butts in Seats Tushies in Seats? Car dealers try to steer you away from EVs Charging stations don't have many signs in every area. They need to say plug type (NACS, CCS, J1772), speed (kWh), miles away, and miles off highway.

@ozo1010 24 дня назад

i have owned my rivian r1t for almost 2 years and 30k miles , i have arrived home with 6 miles left on my battery , not once have I ever had any anxiety 🤷🏻‍♂️

@wolfman9999999 26 дней назад

Automakers and dealers don't ignore the convenience of charging. EVs go against their model of continued profits from servicing the ICE car. They don't want to lose the thousands upon thousands of dollars of profit that come from this.

@aramide2980 26 дней назад

They need those profits to throw them into their EV model line money pit.

@wolfman9999999 26 дней назад

@aramide2980 EV money pit? You have obviously never owned one. The cost of operation of our two EVs are a tiny fraction of the ICE cars they replaced. I'm never going back to ICE cars. I resent the remaining ones in my fleet more every year. ICE cars are obsolete.

@aramide2980 25 дней назад

@@wolfman9999999 I meant the cost for the manufacturers. Sure the cost of running evs for the user is low, also thanks to the hefty subsidies (low taxation).

@cristianseres1353 26 дней назад

It's not that easy with petrol/gas engine gauges either. I was driving with my 1966 Toyota Corona when the fuel gage started to sink towards zero quickly on a motorway a few days ago. It was a false reading, but still scary to see the needle go below zero. And my other classic car, a British Daimler, you can't make any sense of its fuel gage readings, you just want to keep at least one of the tanks always full as the gauge will plummet a lot faster than the range in my 60 Ah BMW i3.

@mnorma12 26 дней назад

The best remedy is exposure. Get out and use an EV and you quickly switch your mental model of using a car. After over 100k miles, I never even think about range anymore and will never drive ICE again.

@WestOfEarth 26 дней назад

In the early days of the automobile, was 'fuel anxiety' a thing? Range anxiety feels like a concept invented by oil companies.

@ronaldking1054 26 дней назад

The first gasoline cars had 2 gallons and 20 mpg because they were light. There also were not gas stations. Horse and wagon would have been more reliable over large distances as it is easier to get feed and water than gasoline, but for some reason, we are no longer using horse and wagons.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

I'm doubt I'm the only one who ran their gas tank to the bottom. I think that term range anxiety is poisonous because some people think it's a disease you catch from EVs

@lenkuffert7428 26 дней назад

Absolutely they did. We’ve had at least ninety years of building up gasoline infrastructure to make ICE fuelling seem routine, “natural” and part of any longer trip. If you are in a reasonably populated area, you are probably not more than 10 or 20 km from a place to buy fuel, and the oil companies love to remind you of it. Once a year we drive to see our parents and there’s part of that drive where no gas stations exist for about 150 km, so we have a bit of tank anxiety coming up on that stretch. That drive is more or less the only time we use our gas car. If that drive wasn’t through two of the most EV resistant provinces in Canada (SK and AB) there would probably be more EV charging opportunities on the way, and we’d just take the EV. Moral of the story is that ICE infrastructure is way ahead, yet those decades of shitting carbon into the air are portrayed as an advantage for the way things are.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

Canada has some less desirable heavy sour crude oil, they're desperate to unload it, probably don't care for any competition [Michael Bernard (electrify everything)]

@wewk584 16 дней назад

Even though one can argue this should have happened 15 years ago, phevs will have to be the bridge for many people to EVs. It’s really more about it being different than gas cars. And there’s no FUD about that. It is different. Whether it’s worse or better is where arguments come in. But people are leery of change. Once they realize the benefits of the EV side of the car , going full electric will be a more natural switch. But hopefully all or most the incentives will be for phev not hybrid. Hybrids are just efficient gas cars to most owners if there is no charging port. (And possibly if there is one) but at least the opportunity is there . Education in the traditional sense won’t work for the most resistant to EVs. But it could work on people sort of on the edge that just need a push. The switch is inevitable, even if republicans win, although it will be slower. The more people driving them the more people will accept them.

@contraplano3157 26 дней назад

With my 130km of range, i do not have that problem... For 6 years

@benjamindbarr 23 дня назад

I think it is about momentum, we are moving in the right direction, it just take time for a glacier to get where it is going, but when it does there is no stopping it (expect for global warming i suppose, that seems to stop glaciers pretty good... hopefully not in the metaphor, though).... my dad would have a tesla, he has seen several of us boys drive everywhere in a Tesla without an issue, his wife... well, she is still influenced by her family that seems to be very anti EV. But she is nuetral to EVs now and even would consider one if my dad didn't have a company truck, so there is no need for a second personal car.... my neighbor finally bought an EV to commute in as his truck cost a small fortune to commute in (he still has the truck). But all those people are influenced by EV drivers they see on a daily basis... as more people get into EVs more people will get acquainted with the advantages of EVs. The more people travel to see anti EV people without an issue, the more they will see that maybe everything they have heard isn't true. And of course figuring out how to get everyone easy nightly charging, that is going to be needed unless super fast charging becomes a thing i suppose.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

2023 Bolt EV has more range than I need now I have range apathy. Remember we have gas everywhere because it's driven there in trucks, not as practical as wiring, which is in EVERY building.

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

badskpr you wear an Amsoil Tee Shirt . That is really funny.

@waynerickard4027 23 дня назад

i just brought an electric van in Australia I think I'm the first got edel7 there not out for another 3 MThs they got 2 for promotion they used 1 I got the other I'm a plumber does up 1000 km a month my work Ute ways 3 ton metric cost $800 to $1000 a month I charge with 2k/w granny leed witch is fine I have 25k/w of grid bat with 3 k/w solar need to up it to 6 k/w solar its coming into winter now i done about 150 k/w off grid last billing month 40 with fast charger my electric bill come in at 234 ($120 is house ) $114 plus $40 $154 to run for 1 month (2000 k/m)done All this charging debate is a joke for most people I charge around 20 k/w a night and it does the job for 600 k/m a week

@darthsirrius 26 дней назад

I WISH my 2017 Nissan Leaf got 70 miles still rofl.

@timothykeith1367 26 дней назад

The problem with range is after ten years - few EV will get new batteries. Many 10-year old gasoline cars have another decade of life and extending that life beyond 20 years is a DIY effort. Only relatively wealthy households own EVs. They don't think past five years.

@rp9674 26 дней назад

Look at used EV prices, also consider the cost of keeping a Gasser running long-term including fuel

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

@@rp9674 And your opinion conclusion is ?

@rp9674 26 дней назад

@@mikewallace8087figure it out, I only have two hands can't hold everybody's

@timothykeith1367 17 дней назад

@rp9674 Yesterday I saw a nice looking AE92 Corolla - the driver looked like another grandpa. The cost to maintain a 35-year old Corolla is minimal , but most got trashed due to severe neglect. The '90s to mid 2000s was peak-Toyota, but especially the 4AFE/7AFE era. Underpowered by 2024 standards, but a 400,000+ mile car with basic attention. Emissions and CAFE regs cause manufacturers to get too edgy with tech and very costly to repair. I look forward to a too-slow developing open source EV hobby to economically extend EV life as manufacturers aren't interested in older EVs as new tech obsoletes the old.

@mikewallace8087 17 дней назад

@@timothykeith1367 Are mid 2,000's 2,500?

@badskpr 26 дней назад

Mega people say they drive 600 miles a day and Electric semis are more expensive. Truth is a semi class A gets 6 miles per gallon of diesel fuel. With a trip from Los Angelles to Galveston Texas 1200 miles require 1500 gallons of diesel plus two quarts of diesel additive(fungicide). Oil analysis per six trips filter exchange $110 per Bypass filter plus #40 analysis. Carbon trap needs to be cleaned every six trips, cost $110. Diesels can only smoke ten seconds under law(EPA). Cost of Diesel is $5.50 per gallon and the engine life is usually five years.

@badskpr 26 дней назад

Cost of Diesel fuel additive for trucks is $12 a quart takes two per fill up cost of Diesel 1275 US dollars per 78,000 lb load.

@peter-hr1gl 26 дней назад

buy a Hybrid. No range anxiety. When EV charger network meets your needs and/or fast charging reaches your desired timeframe, then move from hybrid to full EV. Not that difficult to figure out really. Some people are not yet ready to totally change their behaviors surrounding filling up at the pump/convenience store during longer trips so why put yourself through that right now. Hybrids offer you the best of both worlds. PHEV's can even do it more for in-town driving to run on battery only and use level 1 home charging effectively for many people.

@jamesphillips2285 26 дней назад

Hybrids also have the worst of both worlds; more complexity. Also: if you use the gasoline engine to relieve range anxiety: you are not as diligent making sure that the battery is charged enough for your trip. Relying on only the battery changes your mindset.

@cristianseres1353 26 дней назад

Worst of both worlds: oil changes, catalytic converters, coolant, air filters, exhaust pipes, lots of parts that need yearly maintenance and will wear out. And too short a range for usable electric range. You can't fill gas at home or from your solar panels.

@ab-tf5fl 26 дней назад

If everybody follows that logic, then EV charging will never improve, as they would have no revenue and no customers. But, the truth is, public charging is not nearly as bad as the media makes it out to be. Do your homework, plan ahead, check reviews, leave yourself enough range buffer to be able to find another charger, just in case. But, if you know what you are doing, you are not going to end up stuck.

@gsilva220 26 дней назад

There is no range anxiety. The true anxiety is about the charging time.

@buzzofftoxicblog791 25 дней назад

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@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

Transport you removed two of my reply comments . Do you have any courage to tell me why ?

@transportevolved 26 дней назад

You were attacking someone in the comments. Please stop.

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

@@transportevolved I am attacked in the comments too. Please stop them or are you biased . You are prejudiced in my opinion.

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

Mega People ? and question his math plus asking if he eats acorns is an attack ?

@draiverx 26 дней назад

Ahh, so after over a decade of bullshit propaganda how wonderful electric cars are, now the problem is my brain? This kind of approaches is called brainwashing. I had a gas car with poor fuel economy and a small tank. I had range anxiety with that car in some particular scenarios. Was there any problem with my brain? NO. It was a car with poor range.

@jamesphillips2285 26 дней назад

They mentioned that range anxiety can happen regardless of range. What is important to avoid range anxiety is: 1. Enough range for your typical trips 2. Ability to recharge between trips. An apartment dweller may need a much larger battery if they are only able to fast charge on the weekend, for example.

@markmiller8903 26 дней назад

Buy an ICE car!!

@cyberoptic5757 26 дней назад

it's too warm here; ice cars just melt. Maybe in Alaska?

@jdear97 26 дней назад

They will disappear faster then you expect. I worked in the oil industry. Once the demand falls by 20 or 30%, there will be a massive disruption because of how expensive it is to run the infrastructure. You will be at an advantage if you figure out EV's before you must figure one out.

@mikewallace8087 26 дней назад

@@jdear97 at present your EV country fantasy is not possible . The supply infrastructure is not there and green electric production is not doable.

@Pottery4Life 26 дней назад

You should. Because SOMEONE going to be paying $10 - 15 per gallon in about 10 years and it's not gonna be me.

@ronaldking1054 26 дней назад

@@mikewallace8087 At current rates, your energy solution is more expensive. If someone can buy 25-years' worth of energy for your 11-years cost, then yours is the problem. You've just convinced people that yours is cheaper. It is not.