The minute Rick Beato said Band Maid had no dynamics was when he lost alot of credibility with me . I don't put much stock into what he says I trust Ryan way more than him
When did he say that? Not that I don't believe it, but I'd like to see the video. Band-Maid is the best thing I've found in a long time. Their outfit was for a long time a barrier to me getting to know their music (my bad), until by chance I heard a few songs live. Band-Maid is the best I know at the moment.
A comment I posted to another critique of Mr. Beato's rant(s). In my opinion (through years of intermittent 'observation/research') Mr. Beato lives is a 'bubble' that I tried to break him out of with numerous comments, DMs on several platforms & emails years ago, all before he had millions of followers. I have concluded that his "market" is people like himself who are in the same 'bubble' and not really interested in current-day talented ORIGINAL composers, arrangers & performers, studio & LIVE. He finds-fault but ignores all suggestions outside his 'dissatisfied bubble' (that disprove his consistent assertions) and therefore continues to grow his 'followers' who are in the same 'dissatisfied bubble' he chooses to remain in. He likes to complain about "copyright" too... The video being (minimally) discussed here was the first video of his I watched since his talk with Marty Friedman. A talk that, unfortunately, did not effectively introduce Mr. Beato to any of the myriad of FANTASTIC artists & bands from Japan that Marty consistently promotes on his show, Rock Fujiyama. That talk had some moments of interest, but lacked the broad spectrum of information on NEW artists & bands that can be found in any ONE of Mr. Friedman's 15-20min programs. I unsub'd Mr. Beato's channel(s?) long ago, but 'the algorithm' still suggests his content sometimes. I acknowledge that my opinion of Mr. Beato's opinion is of no interest or consequence to him (though I still believe it COULD release him from his 'dissatisfied bubble', IF he wanted to be released from it).
Beato is a narcissist. He refuses to look at Japanese bands and artists. He should be all over Wagakki Band. But nope. We don't need him. His channel has too many followers. His channel is all about "him". I don't waste my time over there.
He always goes on about how bad new music is, but he never has any young up and coming musicians on his channel. He just concentrates on mainstream, he's part of the problem.
Beato chooses to live in ignorance because the whole "Current music sucks" slogan is how he makes his living. Many of us saw Marty Friedman make a very eloquent and impassioned plea to Beato about how great Japanese music is and how it's worth his time to explore. Beato's response? "So what are you practicing now blah blah blah...? He totally blew him off. He'll never change because he chooses not to change.
I like Beato, but he lives in his bubble. I was also surprised during the Friedman interview that he didn't respond to Marty. He has definitely never heard of the Japanese music scene or looked into it. I missed commenting there. I bet he can find everything he's looking for there at the moment. I'm talking about all music styles ROCK/POP/METAL. I'm a 55-year-old German and in 2018 I was firmly of the opinion that I knew the music world very well. I knew everything about heavy metal in particular, and I was always open to other genres of music too. I even knew X-Japan and Loudness from the late 80's from bad bootlegs, but I had no idea how big they were. Then I came across Babymetal with Road of Resistance on RU-vid, that really hit me. I cried like a little child, then I went into the Japanese black hole. Everyone who comes across Lovebites and Band Maid........ probably knows what happened there. I was so arrogant before, but then I accepted it straight away, the dreary boring time was over, and the time before was really boring, my musical compass was recalibrated, all my favorites currently come from Japan and the list is long, there are always a few exceptions like The Warning from Mexico (I really agree with Rick there, the music is boring and is only sold without love, without anything, just marketing. Super gigantic superstars with some private nonsense, preferably coupled with politics, which is the end for me immediately) RICK BEATO WAKE UP, TAKE A SNIFF INTO THE JAPANESE BLACK HOLE (it's not so unknown anymore) AND MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY. For me, the Japanese music scene is the epicenter of the music world at the moment, they are simply at the forefront, they have by far the best musicians, the best ideas, and just make you extremely happy with their decent manner. I just feel good, it can always change, I'm being careful now, always keep my eyes and ears open
I saw the episode where he deliberately acted like he was clueless so he could ignore his fans asking him to listen band-maid. Haven't listened to him since.
Personally I think Japanese Vocaloid is a lot more creative and impactful than Japanese Metal. Look at Yoasobi, Ado, Kenshi Yonezu etc etc. Yoasobi got Billboard #1 in America. Even Babymetal one of their main songwriters is a Vocaloid producer. Monochrome sounds a lot like a Vocaloid from 2008. I love Atarashii Gakko. I don't know about all their songs but I saw Jon-Yakitory wrote one. He just had a hit Vocaloid song Konton Boogie. Ado apart from her actual Vocaloid covers has songs written for her by the best Vocaloid producers like Deco27, Giga and PinocchioP. Waggaki Band is great. Most of their best songs are Vocaloid covers. Where would Waggaki Band be without Senbonzakura, Phony and Roki?
Since clicking on Band-Maid's "Thrill" MV over two and a half years ago I can't stop listening to new music - sometimes to the detriment of what I should be doing, according to my wife! Chinese indie, S Korean R&B, Japanese jazz, a whole new world for me and I love it. I checked out fancam footage of The Tiger on your recent recommendation, and in turn I would love to know what you think of this: aLIEz「核爆神曲」女僕樂隊誤闖廢墟版
Until 4 years ago, when I found BAND-MAID and other Japanese bands, I had tuned out Rock and Pop almost completely. It has been mostly Classical, Jazz and Blues for me. Japanese Jazz has been part of my music library for more than 20 years now. The Japanese music scene has revived my interest in genres, even Metal, apart from those mentioned before. From there I spread out to other countries. It's definitely an enriching experience.
Everyone acts like Beato's clueless or ignorant. He's not, he's doing a bit. He picks the most popular stuff on Spotify or whatever, something that's guaranteed to pull in mainstream viewers, and then talks about how it sucks and everything sucks - because he's trolling for views. Why did he blow off Marty Friedman? Why did he play half a Band-Maid song, mention that it had some decent playing, then bitch about the compression (accurate, TBH) and then turn it off halfway through and never touch it again? Because finding good music is absolutely not his business model. He's avoiding good modern artists, not missing them. That's why no one can break him out of his "bubble" - that bubble is where his business is and he knows it. Once I realized that I refused to watch any more of his videos. I don't miss them. I don't think Beato is adding anything valuable to the world.
Thank you for the video. I empathize with you. Older generations sometimes try desperately to affirm their own generation. I was born in the 70s. And I kept searching for music and movies with limited information. It was an adventure that everyone experienced at that time. Sometimes the treasure chest I found was full of scraps. Then I learned the names of the artists I liked, started working and earning an income, and I will never forget the joy and excitement I felt when I bought their CDs. But compared to that, I don't think that the music consumption of the current generation is frivolous. I love the mountains of North America, because the beauty of the mountains remains the same whether you get there by foot or by plane. The effort you put in is a lovable struggle, but I question whether you expect the value of what you get to be equal to it. I discovered and listened to BAND-MAID myself, but I could feel but not understand why their music sounds so good. But after I came across your reaction video, I could hear their music more clearly, even the sound of each instrument. I once summited a mountain solo, and the second time I did it with the best guide. I will never forget the view I saw. This was only possible in this day and age. I love that we live in an age where we can encounter so much music from so many different countries. Respect the source of the water, and enjoy its fruits without reservation. When climbing a mountain, you need the best guide. I feel lucky that my life has been just long enough to allow BAND-MAID, so many other great music, and such great reactors as you to exist.
Well said! I will admit I held a somewhat similar outlook as Mr. Beato several years ago before I was exposed to bands like Band-Maid. I never thought in a million years that I would be mimicking vocals in a language other than my own. And who knows if not for RU-vid and other online platforms I may have never discovered a Band like Band-Maid. I agree with your commentary of being too lazy to pursue music that appeals to you. If you have a passion for music you explore all roads to find it. As someone who is in their mid fifties I could remember if it wasn't played on the radio you had to rely on word of mouth or spend hours in record stores checking out what was new in your favorite genre. Many times you took a chance on something from how you liked the album cover. Or you read an interview where your favorite band mentioned their influences and you bought an album of theirs because you assumed it would have something similar to what you liked. I found a band like Black Sabbath that way. I completely agree with the concept that nothing is completely original, everything is influenced by something. My favorite band Band-Maid has multiple influences as ingredients within their creation. It is the reason I'm drawn to it, it has familiarity. The way I see influence is like a color in a painters pallet. It is how the artist chooses to use the colors to express something from their perspective that words alone cannot. If done right this can become a style of their own. A unique signature that can be called original. I have respect for Rick Beato passing on musical knowledge and for illuminating great bands and music from the past but I'm really disappointed at his ignorance to the great music that is being produced currently around the world. You would think someone who has a passion for music would embrace this music. Especially when it falls in his lap from the countless suggestions he receives to sample it. All the hard work of seeking it out has been done for him. Could it be laziness or something else? Whatever it is it is a real shame because he has the power to illumate it amoungst his audience that comprise of music lovers and musicians.
I sympathize with Rick Beato. He is right to complain about the music industry, the streaming platforms, and so on. Just a few years ago I was feeling about the same. I had almost lost interest in music, or at least to find anything new in music. Then I discovered the Japanese music scene and it felt like a revelation. There are so many bands and artists which will give you everything you can possibly want from music, amazing talent and awesome skills, incredible energy and creativity, cool and arty and videos, inspiring and moving life performances. Frankly I think it saved my interest in music altogether. It happened in good part thanks to Ryan and other reactors. Now I have more and better music to listen to than ever before. This month I saw Hanabie in Stockholm and posted videos on RU-vid. It was the first time in many years I went to a rock concert. I know that I will have enough music to enjoy every hour all the days for the rest of my life. Maybe Rick Beato will discover this too and he will have much more positive things to talk about, endlessly.
I think this is a good summation. I agree with Beato to an extent--it's really the Western, specifically American, music industry he's ranting about and in particular, the most popular stuff. I'm a life-long musician and am always on the look-out for new music. I was never really into pop/R&B/Hip-Hop other than a few songs here and there, but as a metal fan, I could hear these bands getting worse and worse, more cookie-cutter and just very musically uninteresting. I hopped over to the J-rock/metal scene almost 20 years ago now, long before there was anyone really doing 'reactions' and found plenty of very talented, musically interesting and unique bands and haven't really looked back since. I'll even listen to some J-Pop as it's far more musically interesting. I do agree Western pop stuff is getting worse--it literally makes me nauseous sometimes when I hear it--but Beato needs to break out of the bubble.
The reason 99% of the music today is crap is like 100,000 songs are uploaded to Spotify every day. So actually that would mean a thousand good songs everyday. Is that even realistic? You have to listen to a whole lot of songs to find something that's good. It's better to find reactors that find Quality Music. Maybe not better but at least easier. I was either fortunate or lucky enough to find Band-Maid.
I teach 8th graders, have taught high school and middle school for 31 years. Kids are still in love with music just like when I was a kid growing up in the 70’s.
I used to like Beato. But I agree that he is - like others here said - stuck in the past. He has his eyes firmly shut to the things going on in music right now. I agree that when the music industy collapsed in the early 2000's it was almost impossible to find anything (that I personally liked). Yes, I agree with Beato that Popmusic has been getting so bad that you can no longer listen to it. But in terms of Rock and Underground music, a massive change has been going on. I have been listening to music for a long time, and there has never been as much good music around as now. There is an underground scene in Europe and America right now that is so good, that it actually makes me want to cry. Not since the eigthies/nineties have I seen such a push for innovation and new ideas. There is the massive wonderful amazing japanese scene, where we have bands that are so good that the make me want to burn my guitar in shame. The platforms such as itunes, spotify, youtube actually allow us to find all these things, to listen to bands from everywhere in the world instead of just the anglosaxon corner of the world. I am sixty years old, and there has never been as many ideas around as now. Rick Beato is wrong.
The problem might rather be that the kind of journey Band-Maid, and Kanami Tono, has been allowed to make in the Japanese music industry isn't really possible in the US - or many other place beside - not anymore it seems... The Japanese music industry is huge, and it still relies on the sale of physical copies of CD:s etc. That makes customers pay considerably more for music than in parts of the world where streaming is now the norm, like the US (or Scandinavia, or China). The corporate side might take more than the artists in that kind of situation, but it still allows young artists to get contracts where they can make a living, without having much where they will eventually go. Tono Kanami joined a project to form a professional musicians' band playing songs by professional song-writers, while exploiting niche themes the corporate side of things was promoting at the time - group of airline stewardesses (PassPo) backed by a band of "pilots", a band of models-who-can-actually-play (Silent Siren), and for god measure a band of café maids playing hard music... And now a decade plus down the line there is Band-Maid, much thanks to the sheer musical talent of Kanami and how she has used the opportunity. Because the Japanese music industry still has the money to take a punt of cultivating some new, raw, as-yet-to-be-fully-formed talent, and odd-ball ideas. There is still a kind of "pre-cultivation stage" for Japanese musical talent. Band-Maid might be a unicorn, and "miracle" (kiseki) as Kobato has put it. But if that kind of corporate structure had not been there to allow Kobato to try her potty idea of a band of café maids, then Kobato would probably never have graduated from the idol format, and Band-Maid never got s start. And Kanami could have remained a singer-songwriter of indeterminate success. It's the same kind of corporate structure we love to hate that literature now has to deal with. Once upon a time publishing houses published new poets not because they made money, but because some of this new talent would graduate to publish novels, and some of these novels would go on to have either or both critical and commercial success. These days that's no longer the case. There is no "cultivation stage" for new talent - they either break somehow fully formed, or they never take off. And the same is true for the music industry. It takes time even for talent to actually find its feet, and with the streaming situation certainly there is a "democratization" of the potential to spread your stuff, in the sense that anyone can upload stuff, and a democratization of the means of production (computers means no one needs a professional studio like it used to be) - but the time, which at some point means money, to actually cultivate talent might not be there. (If you're already rich you can do whatever of course. Problems only arise if you have to make a living on other people's money. Music like that can be a thing for rich people certainly...) And no, as Ryan Mear also correctly concluded, it was never fair, whether the new way of things or the old way of things, but there seems to be a fundamental problem with how new talent appears and the conditions for how it is formed. Someone has to pay for things, and the problem is not just corporate greed, but also general public ease of access to a vast ocean of music dirt cheap. No one is really willing to pay for a band like Band-Maid spending several years working out what they want to sound like, and learning how to not just play but also write music. And that seems the fundamental problem looming. Something like Band-Maid is still possible in Japan - there is still time and money provided by a corporate structure like there used to be also in the US record industry. But the tangent we're all on says that Japan will also switch to consumption of music mainly by streaming, and then CD-sales will crater badly. And it could happen very soon, and in a dramatic fashion. Since we have seen it happen elsewhere already. There are loads of components to any equation like this of course. The Japanese school systems emphasis on cultivating skills other than purely academic, including playing musical instruments, is a kind of pre-condition. Most of the Japanese commercial music industry is perverse - with its idol-phenomena - BUT it is big enough to allow for things like the "alternative idol" inversions of the dominant form, or even more divergent radical departures in the margins. And Band-Maid started out ALSO riding the coat-tails of the alt-idol possibility - early producers for Band-Maid came from producing BIS (Brand-new Idol Society), and Band-Maid and BIS has appeared on stage early on for the Day of Maids (2016 iirc, which is where there are pictures of Saiki stepping on the prone bodies of the members of BIS lying on stage). If the Japaense industry shrinks - due something like a shift to streaming, killing revenue - it is likely to consolidate in the middle-ground and churn out commercial schlock, like it already does, but shear off the interesting surrounding topiary that includes things like Band-Maid. It's what happened in the US music industry, and elsewhere, already. Volume matters also for quality in some ways. Streaming certainly allows massive volume in the spread and access for consumption side of things. What it doesn't seem to do so well is provide volume, and variety, in the cultivation-of-talent and production side of things.
You're giving me stuff to think about. In general I've agreed with most of what Beato says, but I've also got the impression that he's too quick to paint the whole scene with a broad brush without giving anything a real chance. If you are looking for what's wrong, you'll find it. That said, I also fear for the demise of real musicians - like you Ryan - that are capable of performing without auto-tune, etc. You've given me some good counterpoints though, and I'm agreeing with the points you're making at least where I am now in your video. For example, I always chime in when my peers - I'm older than you - claim there is no good music today. I say yes there is and I point them to bands like the maids, Gacharic Spin, Glim Spanky, Otokobe Beaver - and (gasp) even bands that are from places other than Japan (lol).
There are more people making music because there are more people and making music is easier than ever. Just like 50 years ago, most of it sucks. As you say, there are tons of great musicians - most of those can't compose good music, but many can. At least we have a lot of ways to find music and discover stuff in our wheelhouse and new stuff that we didn't know we might like.
You are so on the money Ryan. Beato, for all his musical abilities, really lost me with his wilful disdain for Japanese rock music. I mean, if he listened and didn't care for it then that would be fair enough (wrong, but fair!) but as far as I can tell he won't even give any of it a fair listen. Or to put it briefly, if he doesn't get Band Maid then he's lost!!
Every time Rick goes on one of these rants, I keep telling him to call his good friend Marty and go visit him in Japan. Marty tried to explain, but it fell on deaf (relative pitch) ears. Do I ever think he'll visit?...not really unless he's the center of attention (much like his talking tours around the US and Europe). Thanks for keeping it real.
Mr. Ryan told me everything I thought about Mr. Biato.I agree 100%. It must have taken a lot of talent and hard work to make a name for yourself in the industry and achieve a certain status.But that and human nature are separate issues. Often the case, it is very unfortunate that those who are successful become more and more arrogant, thinking that they are absolute.Perhaps I feel it even more so because I’m Japanese. I am a big fan of BAND-MAID, so let me tell you a little about them.I consider MISA&AKANE to be one of the best rhythm sections in the world.SAIKIIis a great vocalist with charisma.MIKU is a very hard worker (as are all the members) and the most adorable rock star who never forgets to smile and always tries to entertain the audience.She also plays a key role in bringing everyone together within the band, with a caring attitude toward all members.Finally, there is KANAMI. On stage, he may look dazed and silly, but I think he is actually a very smart person.AKANE also said, "I have never seen anyone practice as much as KANAMI”. They are always striving to improve. I am very sorry for the long comment. BAND-MAID is the best angels that enrich my life. Thank you for your continued support of BAND-MAID.
Rick lost a ton of credibility with me when he listened to 30 seconds of Band-Maid and dismissed them because he didn't like how compression was used in their mix. Nothing about the music. Nothing about the musicians. Nothing about the lyrics. Just wrote it all off without a second thought over compression. It was pure laziness.
My first encounter with Japanese bands was through Amy Lee's curated playlist on Spotify. She appeared on a WagakkiBand song called Sakura Rising. I was amazed at the different sounds the traditional Japanese instruments made. So I checked out more and was hooked. Went to RU-vid to see them perform live and it was even better than the studio versions. Then I saw reactors on RU-vid and checking them out to see if they would have similar reactions to the music. Of course there were these thumbnails of 5 ladies in maid outfits that were obviously a gimmick so I didn't bother with them until a saw a reactor have them on their channel (can't recall which one I saw first but I am thinking it was Champ.) Anyway, the moral of this long story is if it wasn't for Spotify and RU-vid I would not be listening to the music I love now.
It's a shame that someone with such a big YT channel and that much of an "influence" as Beato decided to just give up on modern music because he's incapable of searching outside of his bubble. But i guess in his case the whole "you stop looking for new stuff as soon as you get older" thing is definitely true... what a boring way to experience music, and life in general Ps: never heard of The Tiger, thanks for the recommendation. I'm listening to them right now and they're really freakin good. Japanese rock did it again! lol
The most important point of what you said is "people who don't care about music aren't going to care about looking for good music." There is a responsibility on the user to strive to give credit and invest in those artists/bands that make their life more entertaining or happy. There is a part of responsibility on the consumer in making an effort to know what he is consuming, what the creation of what he is consuming involves, how many people it takes to create what he consumes and what value it has. For the rest, everything that Mr. Beato tends to dedicate his time to is usually the kind of hit music that you don't even need to go looking for because they make you swallow it, like a goose its meal at the pâté factory.
I think he’s looking at the past with these idealistic rosy glasses. There’s always been good and bad music. He’s not talking about all the bad bands that existed back then; only championing the “greats” as this “better then than now” argument. Like you said, there’s just more music now. Easy also doesn’t mean less complex. Are all the tools available to me to make music? Yes. Have I made a hit song and can retire? Hell no. If I have someone let me know because I would really like to retire at 40. 😂
I once watched Rick listening to Band Maid (I don’t remember the song), but he only listened for maybe 20 seconds and all he could do was complain about the compression and then stopped it and didn’t even appreciate the musicianship! I know Band Maid’s recordings can be over compressed, but to reject them just for that, I decided to stop watching his videos and I used to like his videos. He was so closed minded 🤨
In the end, it has always been the same: there's people looking for music, searching, making efforts to find something they love, and then there's a majority of people who consume music like any other goods and don't really care for it. It was the same in the seventies when I was a teen. What Beato doesn't realise is that he's become an old guy who only really listen to what he once loved and doesn't make any effort to find something new to love. Most old people are the same, listening to the music of their youth (I can blame "old" people, at 64 I'm supposed to be one) but there's many exceptions fortunately. I'm as active as I was in my teens, discovering a new band every couple of days, and sharing my enthusiasm with music lovers friends everywhere in the world. And thx to this I'm much younger in my head than I was 20 years ago and much more active than most people my age.
Yea this video made me sad honestly.... I had a lot of respect for him but damn..... this is complete old man yelling in the clouds moment. He has some fair points through out this, but he is just stuck in the past now.
Out of morbid curiosity I watched that video last week and I actually agreed with some of the points he was making; at least in the first half. By the end of that video, he turned into the "Old Man Shouts at Cloud" meme. His whole 'Music has no value today because it's easily accessible' is a *wild* take. I'm very happy I don't have to waste $10-15 on a cassette tape or CD (back in the day) just to find out the single was the only good song on the album. I have done that sooo many times in past that I actually do regret it now. Thank god for the internet and easy access to music from all over the world. I'm listening to the best stuff I've ever heard and have never been happier about the state of music. Rick seems to have spent the last, I don't even know how many decades refining and distilling his personal tastes down to the point of absurdity. He now has the craziest, inbred, myopic view of the state of music today. His opinions are only useful in a contradictory manner; listen to what he says so that you may do the opposite. Or just try to ignore him like I do ever since his pathetic dismissal of BAND-MAID because the RU-vid video was "too compressed." Ridiculous. . .
I sign every single punch line you did spit out here 😅 I did enjoy this a lot. Rick Beato became just another ignorant and therefore irrelevant sentimental old guy fallen out of time too complacent in his narrow bubble. I can’t take he‘s ignorance serious anymore. My respect goes to people like Ryan, Marty and many others who still love music so much that they are willing to explore new musical continents with open ears even when they grow older and therefore still finding a lot of new fantastic and true artists. Thanks and hats off for that! People like Beato are part of the problem.
I don't think BAND-MAID is losing any sleep worrying about AI stealing their fans. AI is advancing fast, so who knows what it'll be capable of in the future. During the song WE LOVE SWEETS, Yukina pointed at me and I threw my strawberry hat on stage and she wore it for part of the song, that human interaction was the highlight of the concert for me and can't be duplicated by AI. Music is not created in a vacuum, early Beethoven sounds similar to Haydn and Mozart. I don't like gate keepers, classical music elitists will look down upon all of Beato's favorite rock bands as mere pop music, not serious music, the same way Beato looks down upon music he deems unworthy. Neither are right.
I completely lost any need for Rick's opinion on music the day he wouldn't even give Band Maid an entire listen to, I have heard his take on the "top ten" or whatever a few times, it's complete garbage, as far as trashing Spotify or other forms of music listening, well every day I hear new music from Japanese band's in the genres I happen to be drawn to, and I also have to pay for that privilege, I had to quit listening to the radio around 20 years ago because there was no new music being played, at least again the type of music that I like, I found Band Maid completely by mistake in 2016, and it opened up a whole new world to me musically, I listen to music from all over the world now, not just the considered western world, and I also get ideas from channels like this one, and your mutual friends, so as far as I'm concerned, Beato needs to either choose to apply himself, or suffer in his own miserable rut, the ball's in your court Rick.
Rick Beato es un Sr. con un componente ERNORME de nostalgia de aquellos días de los grandes conciertos de Rock q llenaban las TV del Mundo , y siempre o casi ,con perdón , del mundo Anglo-sajón , con este Sr. y en este aspecto no hay mas. "Copias" bueeno , si no se han dado cuenta la copia y posterior mejora de algo ha sido una constante en toda la historia de la humanidad , en ciencia , en cultura, RELIGION , en deportes , en la literatura , en la MÚSICA , según he leído y o escuchado , la copia es el motor de la mayoría de las innovaciones hasta el día de hoy . Toda innovación nace a partir de la copia y mejora de la innovación de otro q a su vez "copio" y mejoro esa innovación . Lo q diferencia a las "plataformas" de música de hoy y las discográficas del tiempo de Rick Beato , siendo ambas "maquinas" q se mueven por y para el beneficio , es q hoy las pequeñas bandas , los pequeños escritores, científicos , cada uno en sus plataformas correspondiente , tienen acceso a un mayor PUBLICO q antes , tanto publico como habitantes en la tierra y eso es bueno , se comparte se escucha nuevas formas de hacer músico u otros cosas , q pueden inspirar a otros artistas , enseñar a principiantes en música a escuchar cosas diferentes e incluso encontrar q lo mas extravagante q allá por ahí sea la música q le mueve , hay un mundo por descubrir por ahí . Con el modelo anterior de las discográficas siempre queda la duda de ¿Cuántas bandas , cantantes , hubo como Metallica o led zepelín , q por no poder enseñar su música desaparecieron ? Hoy esto pasa menos ,aunque sigue pasando , el ejem. está en los mismo EE.UU muchas bandas pequeñas q sobreviven por internet y las plataformas y q son muy buenas bandas , lo mismo por todo el mundo . Gracias por el video y Salud y Rock and Roll 😊.
i lived in that bubble for years, not fully, i still looked for new music and at times found some, but it became stale fast ,possibly due to over saturation or way to many copy bands (the old this band has a new sound and people like it lets make 50 more that sound the same). wich more than likely pushed me back into my music bubble. Lady Baby's Nippon Maiju was my first "modern" look into japanese music other than baby metal, it was quirky and diffent and opened me up to trying more japanese bands, fast forward 8 years later my 2 favourite all time bands are from japan, i cant listen to the radio because its borning to me but ive still managed to find a bunch of bands new and old from everywere thanks to checking out the reaction streams, so many i forget most of them until they pop up on one of my playlists. i still listen to old music some of it is timeless and a lot of what ive discovered in the last decade that is modern is proving itself to be timeless also.
"Some people need help finding those music and musicians, which is kind of what I'm trying to do." I agree with that. Some people's lives are about music, whether playing, enjoying, or whatever. I have friends who buy tons of music, go to shows all the time, and are exposed to many new artists. And some people do need help. Not everyone has time for it, even if they want to hear new music. Like me (I can admit it). I love music, but my life doesn't revolve around it. That used to be where radio and MTV (and specifically for me, skateboard videos from the 80's and 90's) came in. That has changed (except for maybe the skateboard videos part). Heck, music and MTV aren't even related anymore. SiriusXM is usually how I find new music in the genre I listen to the most. Reactors (such as yourself) have, in a sense, become the local radio program directors-the ones weeding through the haystack to find the needles. Introducing people to new music that may be of interest to them. While the reach is not the same as radio, at least it is something. Specific to Rick, I get his worries that the haystack will get so large that the average listener looking for new music may have trouble finding that needle or needles. My words, not his. That's just my interpretation of his video.
I agree with most of what you said beside your AI argument, AI doesn't "learn" music like humans do, AI doesn't spend time learning an instrument and has none of the constraint of the human existence that we humans do, and more importantly AI is a machine, it is a statistical model with a near infinite memory and a capacity to imitate any style in seconds by feeding itself your hard work you spend a lifetime developing just for to regurgitate a variation of it with no artistic or human effort behind it, as he said in the video AI is a sophisticated plagiarism tool and is actual copyright infringement because it is not inspiration (inspiration is a human concept that does not apply to machines). It is different when we as humans "copy other bands" or "get inspired by other songs" or even "literally ripoff someone's song" because we humans aren't capable of copying stuff to perfection, you should know that as a musician that just to cover a song you had to already have spent years of your life learning an instrument and hours listening to a song and figuring out how to play it, and even if you try to copy exactly the way another guitarist played it you still won't be able to do it to perfection because of your physical limitations and biases you developed throughout your life, for example I just can't physically play a song like SRV does, so in order to learn his songs I had to change and adapt my technique and play some parts differently and that allowed me to develop my own playing style which itself contributes to what kind of music I can play and write, even a composer would have biases and go-to melodies, rhythms or touches that would eventually be found in their compositions as a result of their lifetime of music making which eventually makes them unique in a way regardless of whether they were inspired by someone else or not. AI has none of that, it is simply fed songs and through deep networks and machine learning algorithms generates a songs from what it was fed, there is no learning curve, no physical constraints, no human touch and no artistic value. Led Zeppelin ripping off other songs still has the artistic value of it being played by them, Jimmy Page and John Bonham's amazing playing made the songs better, even Robert Plant's singing contributed to the uniqueness of it, any cover band has already a million more artistic value than an AI generated song.
I do agree, and that is why the human element will always be appreciated by the smaller percentage of music lovers. AI doesn't just copy, it learns and varies what it "hears" or it would be a direct copy. Greta Van Fleet may as well be an AI generated algorithm for all their originality. They took every cue from LZ, every nuance in vocal, rhythm, and tone, and made new music that sounds exactly like LZ. The fact they are humans makes it no less of a plagiarism of sound. That being said, I would still rather watch them play than watch a computer screen spit code.....BUT, I don't listen to them because it is just as unoriginal as an AI generated "new" LZ tune. I was very surprised to come to the realizations that I did and expected a lot more backlash, but honestly. Unless it is a direct copy, it isn't really plagiarism. It's "in the style of" which is what every person cuts their teeth doing at the start until we find their own sound. The only reason I don't straight up dismiss AI is because it is NOT going away and it will have to be dealt with. Real human fans of music will be responsible for keeping real human music alive......
Thanks Ryan. I totally agree with you. Beato's comments made me so mad. There is so much good music out there, of all genres. Like yourself, I was listening to the same stuff all the time. I'm 54. Then 6 yrs ago Lovebites and BandMaid came into my life. Revitalized my love for hard rock and metal. But without reaction channels, RU-vid and Spotify. I would never have found them. Nowadays it seems I'm finding a good new band or artist every day. I can't keep up.
Ryan, Very well spoken. Rick only supports the music mafia with locked doors. I watched a few of his videos but not in whole. He reminds me of a old man that knows it all and says his wisdom is the rule. I am truly grateful to you and RU-vid as I would not have known of groups like Band-Maid, Nemophila as well as many others. I really enjoyed how it opened up my eyes and mind.
Early December 2021 it was YT that that threw up a Band-Maid video in my sidebar while I listened to another band. I clicked on the thumbnail and was amazed. A week of listening to everything they had on YT and a bunch of reaction videos, which I didn't even know existed, followed. Then I got serious and started getting physical copies of every release, CD, DVD, Blu-ray, they had done. Did it cost a bit? Yeah, but they are worth it. Free YT brought them into my life. Without that I'd likely never have heard of them and missed so much enjoyment. In the old days radio did that, now it's YT and their algorithms.
Nice counterpoints to Beato. I had an opportunity to go to Saudi Arabia decades ago and on a whim picked out a cassette tape to find out what kind of music was being listened to there. I bought it, listened, then shelved it, not my kind of music. You never know until you listen.
Weird. Mr. Beato has apparently decided to "die on the hill" of "all new music is bad" when that argument is as old and tired as the music he is whining about. Also weird: If music wasn't as "easy to consume" as it is now, most, if not all of the bands that we all currently love wouldn't exist, or if they did exist, it would be in almost total obscurity. It's now WAAAAY easier to find OUTSTANDING music and musicians, so his argument is mute, AT BEST. Now....GET OFF MY LAWN! 😂🕊
Beato's entire diatribe annoys the hell out of me. I found J-rock through You-Tube. BabyMetal popped up in my suggestions in early 2019. It started me. I then found Band-Maid later that year. I buy their CD's. I love waiting to get their CD's so I can hear them. I then found there were people reacting to these bands and others. Ryan, you were one of the earlest reactors I came across , as well as Chase. I then found Wave. It is because of you guys that my knowledge of music has expanded exponentially ove the past few years. I now have a collection of CD's and I have even seen Band-Maid, Hanabie and Rolling Quartz in concert, with plans to see more in the future. All of these bands I found because I was willing to open my mind and search for great music. Not because the radio fed them to me. Did RU-vid make it available to me, of course! Why wouldn't I use the media I can use, but I still had to find it. I appreciate all your efforts to open people to a greater world of music. It is out there. You just have to find it.
Hey Ryan, I agree with you. I saw the Led in Kansas City, Kansas in 1969 and it was the worst concert I have ever seen! They were drunk out of their minds and Bonham passed out on his snare drum. Before that night I really liked them, but I lost all respect.
there is too many good bands I listen almost only new bands , and I can't keep up :))) Rick beato's point is old pop/radio music was better than new radio music
Beato (who I do respect) has no interest in learning about anything new that is good. His audience loves to bitch about how everything sucks now a days and Beato is their leader. If he started exploring new music from all over the world he'd lose his audience.
I'm glad you exist. Only few people speak out about this biased nonsense. The reason why I listen to so many records from the 80s and 90s is because they are deeper implemented into my brain, into my memories. Back in the past when I was a kid, a teenager, a young adult, I simply did have more time diving deep into music. Having eight to ten hours at my leisure, it was easy to get lost in music, even the popular stuff. Today I have to be selective because I don't have the time anymore to listen to everything that is hot at any given moment. But I still find new records from artists I never heard from before. It happens. Good old Rick is a bit too tight and hung up on his own biases.
Rick has gone out of his way not to acknowledge "foreign" music. He is trapped in a past where the UK and US dominated his playlist and doesn't want anything to change.
Ryan, you are dead-on for your criticism of Rick Beato. He's freakin' xenophobic. His interview with Robbie Stenberg revealed that. I watch your channel on RU-vid and Patreon and I love the music that you introduce on it. Some I love and some I don't, but that's a personal choice. I saw, Cream, the Doors, the Byrds, and a one-hit wonder call Blue Cheer back in the late 60's live. I've seen the Allman Brothers Band and many "Southern rock bands live as a stage hand I'm agree you about Led Zeppelin and yes, I saw them live when I was young and thought they were gods. I love classical symphony music, jazz, Latin jazz, and music from Asia of all kinds, especially the J-rock groups like LoveBites, Asterism, Nemophila, Wagakiki Band, Scandal, Hanabie, Hades, Whiskey Dust, Seisega, and so forth. I have bought every Band-Maid album and Cluppo's Hatoful albums. Band-Maid has turned me on to going to live concerts again. IF YOU REALLY LOVE MUSIC do not lock yourself into one style or place of origin for the music. If you listen to music, listen to every variety. Some you will like, some you will love, and some you may dismiss as not being what you want to listen to. There is a senior high school marching band in Yokoto prefecture that is pretty famous for their live performances of American classical swing jazz, Disney songs, and even Deep Purple. The enthusiasm they have for performing the music is contagious and they put on quite a show. They have been invited to perform all over the world, for example the Rose Bowl parade and the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade. Music education is important in Japan and the students are introduced to all kinds of music. I think that love of music and the talent being developed is why there are so many new bands forming. I don't believe that music education is important to school and school boards in the U.S. so the kids aren't being exposed to different music forms and that true for rest of the West. Rick doesn't seem to get that.
When I was a schoolboy in France, music teaching was done with a plastic pipe. I won't tell you about the cacophony in the classes. And music lessons were boring as hell. But the teachers made us listen to symphonies by great composers such as Beethoven, Grieg, Tchaikovsky etc. And that made me love classical music. I didn't become a musician but I like a lot of musical genres.
All of this bullshit always comes down to one thing. These guys always just hate when there's more seats at the table. I hate generative AI as much as anyone though
Rick Beato suffers from severe Japanophobia, like seriously. A couple years ago he "reacted" (If you wanna call it that) to Band-Maid, where he basically said it was crap, only after having listened to LITTERALY 10 seconds from two of their songs; he also bragged at the beginning of the video that he could tell if a song is good or bad, just from listening to 10 seconds of it (Does this guy's head fit in ANY doorway?). He kept saying "iT tOo LOuD iN Mah EarPhOnEs" throughout this "lengthy" listen, which is totally the band members fault btw, oh yeah definitely. He later interviewed Marty Friedman, who lives in Japan now, BECAUSE OF HOW AMAZING THE ROCK/METAL MUSIC SCENE IS OUT THERE and while Friedman was telling him just how amazing the rock music scene is in Japan, Beato was almost laughing and seemed completely zoned out and just preparing for his next question. It really seems as if, that as soon as Beato hears the word "Japan" he completely zones out and just doesn't want to hear any of what is being said.
I've tried listening to Beato but he's like my father's generation, unless it falls into a certain time frame it just isn't any good. I watched him do a Band Maid reaction and he listened to just a minute or so, pronounced it over compressed and that was the end of it. He condemned Band Maid on that minute or so listen and that was the end of it. He only talks to musicians of a certain age and ilk and promotes just his prejudices about the music he thinks is good which falls into that category of age and type. Sure, he knows a lot but to me he sounds a lot like a prog Nazi or a classical snob who really doesn't want to give anything a chance that doesn't conform to his preconceived ideas. Both my parents had music degrees and I grew up playing instruments, I'm very familiar with classical music and traditional jazz so I do have a bit of a background with it. I'm an old guy, I would venture to guess quite a bit older than Beato, but I refuse to be static in my musical listening habits and just keep listening to the same old stuff over and over. There's a lot of fresh air out there, you just have to breathe it.
Well said Ryan! Beato is an egocentric, misogynistic guy lost in the past. Thanks for helping bring so many good artist to light and for shining a light on how clueless Beato is.
Agree with you Ryan. No, music wasn't better 50 years ago. I thought the opposite not so long ago but thanks to RU-vid I found non-English speaking bands who make rock or any genre of music as good or better than my favorite bands from my adolescence. Band-Maid is one of them. Rick Beato's arguments are baseless.
Since the beginning of recording there has been studio only people and those who perform. If someone doesn't do live then i only listen to it in an elevator.
My major problem with Rick, is that he complains about there being no new great original music, but keeps bringing on his channel old decrepit artists that have done nothing of interest in decades and nobody cares about anymore and will highlight and interview them, but will not listen to J-Rock, The Warning, Plush, etc., talk about them, invite them for interviews or promote them. He has one of the biggest RU-vid channel for music and does not use it to find great new music and promote it. And I know that he actively refuses to do so, because he had David Bendeth on for an in-depth interview, where David brought up The Warning and lauded on them, but Rick just brushed that aside and never followed-up on them. Same with another episode where he interviewed Marty Friedman who has been living in Japan for a long time and Marty brought up J-Rock, but Rick just changed the subject. So basically his channel is just a musical nostalgia channel and that is fine, but then he should not promote it as a way to discover great new music.
I'm 64 and he sounds like the older musos when I was 20, your music's crap, you've got it so easy, it was tough in my day blah, blah. It's fantastic that anyone (and that's how it should be) can create music today. Music is dynamic and progressive as is technology but there will always be talent and creativity such as BAND-MAID. I have issues with You Tube but without that technology B-M and other amazing bands would have less of a platform as they don't slot into mainstream western radio. No blues no rock and roll, bye bye Elvis, the Stones, Zepp etc, etc. For fck sake the classical composers ripped off each other and that flows on to individual musicians, my favourite rock keyboard player was Jon Lord from Deep Purple and he openly admitted to the direct influences of Baroque music and the band Vanilla Fudge. Akane Hirose my goddess of the drums cites Ian Paice as an influence (and you can hear it at times), Ian Paice cites Gene Krupa, Krupa cites Roy Knapp and Tubby Hall, it's all a fcken continuum. And yes If there's money to be made some people will always rip off others. Beato sounds like an elite, the same types who shat their pants when Punk arrived Anyway forgive the ramble well done Ryan. 👍🍻
I sort of agree with him on the AI takes just because a) the difference is the *scale* and b) new artists are gonna get opted-in to agreeing without knowing and c) there's no artistic intent in the creation which... to be fair to your point, really isn't that different from the problems with mainstream pop. 😂 But, man, the faucet metaphor was pure cringe. It was like he was trying to do science RU-vidr cosplay. To the extent he needed to explain what a stream is *to an audience mostly younger and hipper than him* at all, the AI-rendered faucet did the trick, he didn't need anything else.
There is a lot of good music, but you have to step outside your backyard to find it. And you should be open-minded. I have noticed some time ago that RB has some problems in these areas.
Rich Beato used to be a good music teacher some years ago, that's why I subscribed to his channel at the time. Today his bitching and moning about all and nothing. I don't care if it's 10 times more music out, it's cool, you may find something you like. I'm happy that the days of gatekeeping by the record labels are over, and that everyone that wants to can publish their music. Beato does not dare to look into music he do not understand, aka the Japanese rock scene 🙂
Yeah, one who only listens to music on the radio, follows the charts, puts stock in music awards shows, follows trends, and think artists playing SNL, Coachella, or your local stadium are “the best” because they’re the most “successful,” AND people who think their nostalgia is an actual musicological factor for what makes music “good,” yeah, those folks might think music is getting worse. But if you’re one of the aforementioned then you don’t really know or care about what good, relevant, artistic, creative music is anyway; so your opinion or perspective on the state or validity of “good music” isn’t truly relevant or meaningful to the discussion about it. And no amount of experience, talent, or success in the industry itself excludes anyone from being part of that lame, commercial, mass-market that is that monolith of shallow music listeners (looking right at you, Beato). People who care about good music can always find UNENDING, OVERWHELMING amounts of it; because we’re not expecting and waiting for it to be marketed to us, and we don’t care who thinks it’s cool or whether it generates memes, tik tok challenges, or goes viral. Want to complain and call me an arrogant music snob? Go ahead. Thank you! And you’re welcome. Go ahead, enjoy your Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Linkin Park, Bon Jovi, Green Day, Lady Gaga, Ed Sheeran, Sabrina Carpenter, Laney Wilson, Dua Lipa, Coldplay, Ghost, FFDP, Morgan Wallen, Florida Georgia Line, Miley Cyrus, Metallica (we know since when), Pitbull, DJ Khaled, Drake, Motley Crue, 21 Pilots, Imagine Dragons, etc…just don’t get in the conversation with the grown ups about good music. Stay out of the way and take Beato with you. You’ll be impressed by his name dropping.
@@Grum-monkey Absolutely, something that isn't mentioned often enough in these type of discussions. Much of the music back then wasn't all that great; the really good stuff always took some effort to find.
I'm 58 and never wanted to be that guy stuck on the same shit I grew up on . Today's musicians are so much better than back then. Yes they are standing on the shoulders of giants. Today most of the stuff I listen to seems strange to those stuck in the 70s.
Yep. Exactly. The difference between then and now is that more music is recorded and accessible. The only difference is the artist's barriers to entry have been dramatically lowered. Now if he wants to argue mainstream music has gotten worse because of X, Y or Z and society has gotten dumber, that's a different argument, but that's not the argument he makes....And now he's complaining that there isn't a wealth barrier keeping people from finding new music. Insane. Honestly, it's just not an old man recording himself yelling at the sky because things aren't quite the exact same as they used to be.
Hate Beato - he is to busy finding whats wrong than finding Miyakos , Kanamis ,Paulinas ,Britney Slays - he is like a fucking bot trying to breaking down music .
Back in the day, so to speak, you didn't have to search/work for music at all. It was all over Rock Radio, no searching required. Even today, where I live (deep in the Ozark hills), it still is. There are five pure Rock (no Fallout Boy, Paramore or any similar kind of soft stuff) FM radio stations plus satellite radio (Octane, etc.). No need to WORK for any thing. I've been in-to all of the current heavy Japanese female stuff, longer than most. Unfortunately, BABYMETAL and now NEMOPHILA have dropped way down in the "heavy" dept. but HAGANE seems to be roaring to life with the very guitarist that I was wanting to replace Saki with, Sakura Yoshida (plus JUNNA!!!). No work or job required. There's newer hair-metal style Rock, classic Rock , alternative Rock, etc. out there that's very easy to find with little effort required.
My current Top 5 bands would be: 95% of MAXIMUM THE HORMONE, 95% of HANABIE, 70% of NEMOPHILA (if they get their sound back in order), 50% of LOVEBITES, pre-2018 BABYMETAL.
Glad u commented on this Ryan. Beato is frustrated with the American music scene primarily...so yeh he needs to broaden his horizons for sure! But the ai thing is still a problem in its intended application, I don't agree that it's the same a an actual musician learning another musicians stuff...ai is being used to replace musicians not develop musicians...big difference...but otherwise, yeah , it's on the individual to find great music and as we in this community we'll know there is certainly no shortage of it.
Sure you can listen to almost anything on Spotify. But you still have to have a job to get money to pay them a monthly fee to listen to music. Me personally I don't waste my money on music streaming services. I buy Cd's just like I have since they first cam out. I go out of my way to look for music. That's how I found all these fantastic bands from Japan. No laziness here. So as far as I'm concerned Rick Beato can suck it.
I think Rick is more clever than you give him credit for; to me that title was clickbait! Anyone reacting to it and commenting or watching it and commenting is basically giving him an income! Much as I enjoyed your remarks and comments I just wonder how many of your followers have gone to look what you’re commenting about? He doesn’t need to work due to the success of his channel, and it’s things like this that promote a big response. I have been someone who has liked and commented, but have not for quite some time now, it became clear to me what he was up to, if he has had a period where his content wasn’t getting enough attention he puts a controversial one out - nothing like controversy for getting attention!
There are four decent songs in Schubert Dip. You shouldn’t feel so sore about that album, it’s not as bad as you’re painting it here! I liked it, but it was very English and very “of a time”, which just happened to be my time. Which track DID you like?! Anyway, Beato is one arrogant blowhard that struggles to survive in the digital age, as does the entire rest of the western music industry. It’s all about money and they haven’t found a good way of making large amounts while still delivering new artists and genres - or even just new artists in old spaces. This stops investment. This stops the industry.
It's funny, I've watched a lot of these "music sucks now" videos. Everyone gets instantly defensive about it, defending music now. The problem is, he's a lot more right than he is wrong. I love band maid, but in the last 25 yrs or so, there ain't many others that will be remembered in 10, 20, 50 yrs from now. Sorry but that's true and all the excuse making in the world won't change that. Individual musicians are probably at an all time high, in talent now, but BANDS that write and play there own stuff that are making SONGS and ALBUMS that will impact ppl through their lives, is at an all time low. I can name 20+ bands from every decade 60s-90s that made music that is going to live well past the ppl that wrote it. And although I hated disco as a kid, I'd rather hear disco than anything in the top 100 now. I'm mostly a rock guy, but I like all sorts of different genres. It USED to be, that rock sounded different than, pop, which was different from dance, which was different from folk, which was different than country. Now it's all 1 big blur, that all sounds the same. I absolutely agree with beato that musicians are indeed lazier now than ever. Music used to be prime rib, and now it's all McDonald's (almost all).
I agree, it is too easy to listen to music. Back in the days, you couldn't just go and buy music on a disc and play it whenever. You had to wait until some traveling musicians deigned to play in your backwater village, or if you're lucky, there were some who lived there and had one instrument they could play. Big musical plays? That was for the rich people. Beato was spoiled as a kid.