Rick Beato Is Wrong 

If you look at his comments though, it's entirely in agreement. My dad told me to watch it because it's an example of why music sucks now. I love a lot of Beato's work but this video and a lot of his similar ones rub me the wrong way and do influence the way some people think. It feels like pandering

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hey emily

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@@danielprofeta "music sucks now," says people who haven't listened to new music that wasn't a top 40 hit in decades.

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who got the Tifa rule 34

Italian on Italian crime is the biggest problem in this country

He made da needle drop is what he did. He was a brave Italian music critic. And in this house, Anthony Fantano is uh hero. End of story!

If you actually compare the chart toppers now to what they were all throughout the seventies there’s no comparison which era had the more revolutionary music to the forefront

​@@wiggy009 You're still judging music from popularity; the revolutionary music that's being dropped these days doesn't have to be popular or commercially successful to be important for music history.

@@Beetlebum55 tbh I don’t like a lot of the “revolutionary” music coming out now.

@@wiggy009rym 2024 chart, look that up

@@wiggy009 rym 2024 chart, look that up

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The Jewish mafia

​​​@@Adam-bq6ic : Frank Sinatra's connections to organized crime are well known -- Sam Giancana, Charles Fischetti, Angelo Bruno, Vito Giacalone, etc. etc. -- and it is the *Italian-American* mafia specifically that he had connections to.

​​@@Adam-bq6ic Sinatra's mafia connections are well-documented and they were all Italian-Americans.

the good ole days

just imagine what we had in 2003. Music beyond what the human mind can even imagine

Ah yes, my main way of finding new and exciting music. Googling… “music.”

2002 music would literally blow your mind

in that brief golden age, the only thing anybody googled was simply... music. this is what they took from you

And in 2001, another plane hit the...

Exactly, like how could you make that argument.most people are looking that stuff up on the social media that he claims us zoomers so are interested in. And then he does the same shit with movies and video games.

I was laughing so hard at that part, he was saying it with such a straight face.

it’s crazy that he said “interest in social media is rising so no one wants to make music anymore” well yeah because the term “social media” didn’t widely exist in 2004??

I think people are less inclined to google a term like music. Why would you ever do that? I think we could use some kind of adjacent term related to music, that people would actually google. Also, I think during the early days, people would just look up "music" to find some music related thing they might be interested in. Nowadays though, we only do so to find out what music is. The only reason I'd google it is if I were a middle school student doing research for a cheesy essay. I guess "social media" is a hotter topic.

It's like the most played out piece of "data" for any "you fell off" argument at this point. I'm surprised he didn't go on to say that Music has 0 viewers on Twitch and 0 active players on Steam

Yes - in a sea of great albums.

The difference is back then...those filler songs didn't make it on to the radio or top of the charts. Now those songs do get pushed to the forefront.

@@GoemonLovesFujikoThere‘s so many amazing albums out right now. Maybe do some better digging?

@@gummypoppa clearly I was commenting on the second half of OP’s comment. Back then good music was ubiquitous. You didn’t have to dig. Maybe you should now days. But if one needs to dig to find good music then the present bears no resemblance to the past.

@@GoemonLovesFujiko in 50 years time, only the good music of today will be remembered, and will seem ubiquitous, - the awful bubblegum music of the 70s isnt remembered is it?

That's what he's referring to... modern mainstream music.

@@ThisBirdHasFlownWhich believe it or not… isn’t all pop!

⁠@@ThisBirdHasFlownI agree that most (but definitely not all) of the chart topping hit songs are bland. But there’s a huge amount of great music getting made if you dig a just little bit deeper. The problem with Rick Beato and his audience is that they don’t ACTUALLY want to discover good new music, they just want to complain. If Beato thinks that the songs on the Top 10 Singles chart suck, then he should use his channel to promote musicians who aren’t on the charts. Which he occasionally does, but not nearly as often as he posts his lazy “This Ed Sheeran song is boring, therefore good music is completely dead” videos.

He usually pulls data from top streams

Well, I've often heard some variation of, "Good music is out there, you just have to look for it." To which I think, "I didn't have to look for it before. I just had to turn on my radio."

😂🤣😂🤣💀💀

And seeing his thumbnails ig

Correct. It is annoying how people over a certain age only seem to care about bands who got signed.. And not just signed but signed in the heyday of physical albums

Seen some comments saying "grunge ruined music 😤" lmao

@@AFellowCyberman The group of stubborn annoying white males aged 55-65 who religiously believe Van Halen and Rush were the pinnacle of human achievement. I know that's an awful stereotype but as someone who is getting close to that age himself, I get a pass. Annoys the piss out of me

This is just a warm-up drill, his "Like That" before shit's about to get spicy.

@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 Can't wait for his "Meet the Grahams"

Look music, I’m sorry that beato is…..:

Certified boomer

​@@countyfacts6920 Wop wop wop wop wop, Melon fuck em up

It would be better if Rick spent more time creating things like his Beato book and less on the politics of modern music like he is currently doing.

What? That chord syllabus? Whatever.

@@mwright80it’s more than that, for sure.

Who buys the Beato book these days when it takes about 20 seconds to get it free? 😂 It's literally just reference material. He took a bunch of crap on the Internet, put it all in a book with zero thought on how he put it all together, and added NOTHING. 90% of it it is BS charts and crap. There's nothing to teach you anything there. It's just a reference to look stuff up, which you can do wayyyy easier on google. Like a paper encyclopedia 🤦

@@J.C... this is why you suck at playing guitar, and not knowing what are u playing 🤣

Based Björk😊

I think this highlights why "AI music" sucks too. There's no actual artist involved so it can't have soul no matter how competent you can get it to sound. It's just flat noise with no meaning or intention.

@@WobblyBits_X on point🙌

@@WobblyBits_X Yep, exactly right. Everything AI spits out is just noise, whether it's music, images, text or videos. And I don't mean the artistic kind of noise.

@@WobblyBits_X Yeah, it's why I'm not worried about AI destroying art. At worst it will make it harder to make money from art which does suck in a capitalist society. But good human made art will exist as long as humans exist.

Didn't their albums regularly reach the top of the charts? They were an album band, not a singles band

@@soarel325 precisely! If you look at the modern ALBUM charts it’s a very different story! Rick compares an old ALBUM band like Led Zeppelin with modern SINGLES CHARTS artists. It's an unfair comparison

No to mention how much they stole creatively from other artists. They are not as inventive as he thinks they are.

@@PennyroyallBlewonly really on their debut

LZ didn’t release singles. They released albums. Those recordings were worked on by each member to make the songs and the album as perfect as they can be while also being palatable to an audience who bought more singles than albums. It’s not just apples and oranges. It’s apples and orange cake. I work in a studio around the same level as Beato’s and he’s just like my bosses who started in the 70s and 80s, except they don’t hate all recording techniques invented after 1993.

This is such a moronic counterargument... guitars, amps and pedals don't write songs for you. They don't in any sense remove the "human factor" he goes so much on about. Please explain to me how that's comparable to autotune and AI. Dumbing down his argument to "technology bad" is painfully juvenile and grossly misses the point.

​@@ThisBirdHasFlown Fretted instruments are essentially just auto-tune for instruments, but Rick's not bemoaning how rigid sounding guitars are compared to violins. Recording music literally allows for a performance of your music to be played in someone's living room on demand as often as they'd like without you being in the same continent or even holding a guitar while they listen. It's one of the most drastic removals of the "human element" in the history of music. You'd be hard-pressed to think of a music technology that doesn't automatize some aspect of music, and the entire history of music is a series of technological developments shaping the next generation of music. It's just that people often take the aspects of music they grew up with for granted.

@@DanChickHollaSaying fretted instruments serve as “auto tune” is an outrageous take, considering a fretted instrument is just an INDICATION of a certain note. This would differ inconsequentially from a piano and its keys. So according to your philosophy, that guided notes (e.g. frets) work as “auto tune” i guess Beethoven, Bach, and Chopin all used auto tune. Good luck making that argument to anyone lol

​@@ceemac9631 If you read my whole post, you shouldn't be surprised to hear me say that Bach, Beethoven and Chopin ABSOLUTELY benefited from the technological advancements of their time. If musicians of Bach's time were as crotchety as Beato, they'd be complaining that Beethoven and Chopin could just hold a key down and let it sound for a whole measure without a trill. Those lazy twats didn't even need to over-legato, they could just hold their foot down on this magical pedal and it'd sustain the tones for them! The Moonlight Sonata is just an ode to how sloppy keyboardists' fingering could be by the late classical period. Bach himself wrote a whole book of music showing off how his new-fangled well-tempered keyboard allowed him to play in different keys without manually retuning his instrument in-between. I don't wish to argue about the semantics or which innovations are the most analogous, but just to address your response on fretted instruments briefly, frets are not merely an indication of a note. You cannot make an inaccurate intonation on a fretted instrument. A guitarist's technique for achieving a finger vibrato are different for a reason; moving your finger back and forth between the frets would do nothing.

@@ceemac9631 ​ If you read my whole post, you shouldn't be surprised to hear me say that Bach, Beethoven and Chopin ABSOLUTELY benefited from the technological advancements of their time. If musicians of Bach's time were as crotchety as Beato, they'd be complaining that Beethoven and Chopin could just hold a key down and let it sound for a whole measure without a trill. Those lazy twats didn't even need to over-legato, they could just hold their foot down on this magical pedal and it'd sustain the notes for them! The Moonlight Sonata is just an ode to how sloppy keyboardists' fingering could be by the late classical period. Bach himself wrote a whole book of music showing off how his new-fangled well-tempered keyboard allowed him to play in different keys without manually retuning his instrument in-between. I don't wish to argue about the semantics or which innovations are the most analogous, but just to address your response on fretted instruments briefly, frets are not merely an indication of a note. You cannot make an inaccurate intonation on a fretted instrument. A guitarist's technique for achieving a finger vibrato are different for a reason; moving your finger back and forth between the frets would do nothing.

At a certain age, your taste in music will be if you don’t like Taylor Swift you’re generally not up on the current music. The 24 people who liked your post is a bunch of losers.

@@michaelrochester48 There's more good music being made now than any time in history, but also more bad music than ever, because we have more access to artists than we ever had. If you can't find new music you like, it's a skill issue buddy. Also, your comment doesn't make any sense. Are you saying when you get old, you end up liking Taylor Swift? Maybe learn how to form a proper sentence before you call random people losers.

@@michaelrochester48you’d that that someone of your age would know how to write a comprehensible comment.

I'm like that with what they call 'melodic techno' these days, it's trance repackaged. Don't even get me started on what passes for hip-hop...

I'm approaching 50 fast, I still love todays music. My mother is 87, and still finds something to like.

Yeah.....but "Kashmir" came out in the 70's so...

@@chiefchimp2789 okay but was he old yet?

Like, progressive rock was the big viral thing at the time and so many critics were **actually** disparaging them to death despite the undeniable importance they eventually contributed for the music industry by opening up a brand new, almost alien creative possibility like nothing else before. Among the (in)famous ones was none other than the biggest Beatles' connoisseur in history and a former critic of Anthony Fantano himself, Robert Christgau.

@@chiefchimp2789 Led Zeppelin was exactly a prime example of musical group the kind of critic mentioned by Op would've despised very dearly. I mean, c'mon now 😂

@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 I'm not entirely sure about that as Zep would have been a band that was around for a decade or so by that point with multiple charting singles. I see what you're saying but I don't think Beato is as closed-minded as this narrative is (although I do agree that his recent videos were a bit jarring and came off as unhinged rants that mostly gave me a laugh).

Douglas Adams may be the most humorous and insightful authour I've ever read. Taken too soon.

Accurate af

I mean, the consequences of generative AI are starting to get worrisome for the state of culture and creativity, but hey, maybe I feel that way because I’m just about to turn 35.

​@srglzrmj as someone in their 20s, I can assure you that I am just as worried

@@srglzrmj i just think it's a scam honestly

Beato does depend on electric guitars, amplification, effects, compression, recording, etc, doesn't he?

Fair, however trap artists do not represent the breadth of music technology use in modern times. They aren’t even on the cutting edge

I think quantizing can change certain aspects of drumming. I make music on the cheap as I can't afford a drumset and I resort to chopping up drum samples, quantizingis incredibly useful and dynamic tool for the right situations. I think using quantizing on songs like Fool in the Rain is a strawman because that is not a situation in which it may belong, but for jungle and other electronic genres that rely heavily on sampling? It's incredibly useful. I think it's important here to call back to what fantano was saying that it might be a problem for rock music, but there are so many ways to use this technology that generalising it based on one usage in one genre is ridiculous

Ultimately a song is the sum of its parts. If you have an amazing live drum performance but the rest of the instruments can't support it (and vice versa), what good is it? If electronic drums can improve it, who cares?

The scary thing is everyone does this. None of us are above this. Now we may be further away from it happening, but it will happen. It’s human nature.

​@@chiarosuburekeni9325I wouldnt say everyone dose this, there are deffinqtly some very open minded people who are resistent to this way of thinking but I will agree that it is very easy to think like this.

You should hear him teaching guitar technique. He makes it sound like you need a 4 year degree to put your fingers on the strings.

​Sure not "everyone" does this, but way too many people do! What's really fucking frustrating is how each generation proclaims that "They won't do this when they get older", because they were rightly annoyed when older generations did it to them, end up turning around and doing it to the newer generations once they hit their mid 30s/early 40s. It's a result of becoming more conservative as you age, as well as getting further and further away from one's youth that it's like people forget what it was like, along with falling into the same trap of romanticizing the past that the older generations do, and just not being interested in remembering what it was really like, and just going off the vibes of nostalgia and how it makes you feel good, and basing your entire perspective off that.

Really do not think he is shitting on the new music generation. His own presentation is pretty friendly and not hostile, just sharing an opinion with his own analysis. if you disagree, that's cool. However, I think there's some truth and value in his story of being a music fan early on before streaming services. I thought there's a real point being made there that I can understand

That point is so funny, the guy claims to know what's wrong with music today but doesn't even know how we interact with it.

Yea I didn't get what he was trying to do there.

I'm honestly glad fantano supports modern music I didn't think he would before I rly started watching him

Beato comes home to his wife, dismayed, and says “honey, I went into the local community centre today and looked at the notice board. Not a single flyer made by someone looking for fellow musicians to start a band. Rock music is truly dead.”

I went into Google Trends and typed "anal sex". You wouldn't believe the dip. Seems people just aren't doing it anymore :/

Are you actually proving Rick's point... Jw.

Grifting is a kind of easy, fairly low effort way to rake in the cash. Now I’m not saying that’s all Rick does, a lot of his content is absolutely fantastic. Dude has one of the best music channels on the Internet. All I’m saying is he knows his audience 💵💰🤑💸 Give the masses a little red meat and they’ll give you enough bread to buy your summer home 💀💀

Hes literally a boomer what do you expect? He does a good job at pushing relatively talented contemporary guitar players.

Man complaining about why music keeps "getting worse" while simultaneously never using his platform responsibly to bring exposure to multitude of newer or youth artists and groups out there could never get more ironically out of touch than that. I mean, gosh! There have been waves of younger or youth artists and groups out there such as Caroline Polachek, Ginger Roots, Squid, Hakushi Hasegawa, underscores, Hiatus Kaiyote, Martha Skye Murphy, Arooj Aftab, Jockstrap, Little Simz, Amaarae, Julia Holter etc, who have been pushing new spin on creativity in such interesting ways since the past few years alone. Yet, I've never seen him giving a single shout out to one of those names in separate videos other than his regular Billboard reaction stuff..

When he analyzes individual modern songs he generally likes and praises them. He’s definitely just whining because it’s popular

Also, this is going to be my hot take as a passive subscriber of him: Him "christening" Willow Smith and her latest record as an example of his token representation on what constitutes as the ideal "good music" is so disingenuously misleading. Like, you can't be more obvious at influencing people with a narrative there. Especially when she herself has been making music partly as a coping mechanism and **in spite of** the conservative influences around her.

@@jeffbrown-hill7739 Look deeper into that. That also implies the present might not be that good if the good ol days weren't that good. I think people are just too defence and act like civilization only goes one way, Progress. Nah, we had to take a few steps back a few times before and this one of those instances.

​@@TallicaMan1986Agreed.

Right, but current music is nonsense.

@@k.s.nichols4060ALL current music? EVERYTHING made in the present day, inside and outside the mainstream, is nonsense?

​@@k.s.nichols4060Mainstream music mainly yes but there's still some great songs being written

This whole comment itself should be a bumper sticker :)

LMAO

Is that really a common bumper sticker that people have? Strange

Pathetic. You have no real taste of your own, have you? I knew a person once who, when asked what their favourite music was, said: "The radio". No knowledge of anything. Just listening to whatever is playing at the moment. The crap that's been selected for you...

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oh for sure, its the only way to find music, you wouldn't possibly use the platforms that music is hosted on, and look up specific artists' names, or specific genres, or specific time periods and instruments, rick is a true intellectual and music lover just like us you see

@@deadaccount03791 as you know, using newer technology leads to the downfall of music

Everyday I wake up, I smoke weed, fill my belly with diet soda, and play Burnout Revenge for the PS2

That's a bloody good point.

It illustrates the differing mindsets of using technology for convenience and using it to experiment and explore. Beato obviously falls into the first camp and just assumes that everyone is there, when really it shows that age seems to have dulled his curiosity and will to explore.

👏👏👏💯 well said

So… he is correct then ? 😅

@@joserodall7321he’s not correct at all. It’s just that nobody uses Google to find music these days. We have so many other avenues that we didn’t have AT ALL in 2005.

Beatony Meatano

Man, I didn’t want to like this, but you earned it.

Dick Beat Offo

me when im a chronic masturbator with a speech impediment

Low blow

Exactly look at Joe Zawinul

Bjork gettin a lot of quotes. Music IS the worst it's been. If u lived through the 90s youd know. All they go on about on the news is taylor swift. That's it... Just shows u were we are at.

@@armondtanz jUsT sHoWs YoU wHeRe We aRe aT lmfao. Bro watches the news for his daily dose of music. "Music is the worst it's been" according to whom? CEO of music or the self proclaimed RU-vid critics with no real job lmfao.

​@@armondtanz I can't imagine basing my opinion on the state of music off of watching THE NEWS of all things. Broaden your perception a bit and you'll realize music is NOT at the worst it's been.

@@Jasperr9999 it is . This comment section is 100% proof. And yes the news is an indicator of grade A musicians. There are non because no one is mentioning them in the comments. That alone speaks a 1000s words. Kids addicted to social media has killed the pool of talent. Go take a look at ispeed when he goes out. They the new rock n rollers.

Yes. Quantizing, pitch correction, auto-tune, vocoders, hell where I live there is 36 channels and nothing on. They are different but within themselves they are all the same, I cannot tell the songs apart, mostly plagiarized international hit stuff in local language for no other reason than that the people who make want to be in the business. No intent, or purpose, or idea.

I actually prefer open fire cooking to an oven cooked meal. The key here is understanding preferences are different for everyone. That’s okay.

​@@BarrackObamnathanks obama

⁠@@BarrackObamnaI read this in your voice. Thank you Barrack

@@BarrackObamna Folks, let me tell you something - this Obama guy, he really doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to cooking. I mean, open fire cooking? What is he, some kind of caveman? No, no, no, we have the best ovens, the greatest ovens, the likes of which the world has never seen before. Believe me, I know more about cooking than anyone. Just ask my beautiful wife, Melania - she'll tell you, I'm the best chef, the best cook you've ever seen. So, Barack, let me tell you something - you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to cooking. Leave it to the professionals, leave it to the experts. Because when it comes to making America's cuisine great again, there's only one person for the job - and that's Donald J. Trump. Believe me.

​@@BarrackObamnano the point is he's making an analogy, and a good one. And I'm sure you rush out to the open fire after a hard day at the office 5 days a week.

And Collins pioneered famous 80s gated reverb snare sound

common Matt Colville W

@@mcolville He was also a very technically accomplished drummer himself - you only need to hear his work with Genesis and Brand X to see that he had no trouble playing the drums himself!

but isn't phil collins music literally the most soulless you can get? didn't they use his music in american psycho as an example of corporate trash?

Also Stewart Copeland mentioned how Sting wrote a song based on a Casio preset in an interview with, you guessed it, Rick Beato.

1000% agreed. Most level headed comment here, but young people won't hear any of the critical parts of what you said, they'll just hear "ha ha boomer yellong at clouds" And this is why their generation's music is crap

As a millennial musician who learned the old fashioned ways (from sitting with other people and learning from them/learning songs) and also am painfully aware I won't be anything but an intermediate player skill wise, kids really need to hear this. Especially about harmony. The struggle to learn without strict guideposts is the foundation of music. It is what folk music comes out of. Technology is giving so many options that its taking away the struggle to be unique in even a minuscule way, which leads to roads that technology simply cannot dredge up because it based on the past outcomes, not future possibilities. Its like googling an answer rather than contemplating the possibilities. Googling is going by signposted roads; contemplating is going into the wilds.

@@aristideregnier4883 And they're right considering most of you aren't even good at capturing nuance or avoiding generalization. Your own comment is an example. And don't give me this "this generation, that generation". Practically, your generation was worse in every single aspect of social & political life. Regardless, not all music from your generation is even good. Very little & only the best are remembered & celebrated. Stop taking credit like every single member of your generation was responsible for ground breaking music.

@@physicseducation69I appreciate how you accuse them for generalizing and then do the same thing. And you’re labelling their time as ‘worse in every way’ with your own myopic opinion - of course - you know best do you, simply because you’re younger? It’s the reverse probably - less wisdom and less life experience.

@@rach9466I can feel the boomer just radiating off this comment

Rick needs to pull up that Google trend data.

Pat Finnerty Show

Same

Same, I've been coming back to Fantano intermittently just to see if he has addressed it, because I thought he would. Finally.

@@FERMUSICA you should have been googling music...come on

Well said but then again, he is a pop producer which is why he only uses top X lists for his examples which is logical in context.

Elliot! When's the Ringo ranking coming out?

One of Rick's best videos that I thought was just gonna be another old man yells at cloud video is a video where he goes in on the 1996 Telecommunications act (Fuck the 1996 telecommunications act all my homies hate the 1996 telecommunications act) and how it destroyed most local radio in the US. It was like "wow a tangible reason for why popular music may not be as high quality as it used to be", never thought I'd see the day.

Corporate greed was a big thing when popular music was better as well. Think 50s-70s. It's nothing new. What changed is labels had to come up with new ways to make money once album sales declined in the 2000s. SoundCloud rap is what we got.

Good points. Some of what you say are reasons why I like an artist like Kendrick Lamar who has the freedom to take years to create his albums.

I think people have been dancing to live music for thousands of years...

And that's where disco music started. Just as shit as the BGs.

yes

Absolute magic. You win today.

Exactly. It all boils down to this.

gottem

effing destroyed beato on that one lololol

*souljaboy

best of mozart has been released posthum

since Mozart started composing*

I love Classical music and Mozart too, but I beg to differ. Since J.S. Bach die, everything has been downhill ;)

@@tiluriso hahahha i was kidding by the way

This comment is wild. It's amazing how shallow this actually is.

Actually you're wrong.

@@cjay2 Convincing argument there.

@cjay2 No, YOU'RE wrong!

This. I've actually seen more kids on RU-vid/Tik Tok doing amazing things on instruments. The other day my friend sent me a video of an 10 year old Indian girl on a talent shredding. So I don't know what Beato is talking about.

@@apoclypse that's awesome. I personally think it's still cool when someone plays, and I see it all the time

My brother and some of his friends started a band. And I know plenty of kids into playing the guitar.

@@BallMuncher555 that's awesome

@@BallMuncher555 What Beato said doesn’t even make sense. Sales of guitars has only been increasing steadily in the US. Not everyone is abandoning instruments for a laptop. He didn’t do any real research. Just your typical RU-vidr who thinks because they said something it must be true. Why would they think otherwise when you have a whole circle jerk of comments giving you affirmation.

We actually recently discussed this in class, can confirm

Couldn't this be explained with he needs to use his feet for those sustained chords? This one can be demonstrated pretty easily I think. Outside of the timbre of a harpsi. A piano does the same, but with added functions. No one complained when the whammy bar became a guitar thing because it still sounds good when used Properly.

To be fair, though, I have several friends whose favorite period is the Baroque, whereas I've never met anyone who favors the Galant, which came right after. So in this particular case, maybe the curmudgeons had a point.

that's actually an inspiring story

@@TallicaMan1986 I dunno. It's an anecdote music teachers tell their students, and for all I know they made it up. The point is that musicians have been whining about innovation "cheapening the craft" for actual centuries.

That is so on point, wow

This is a good analogy. There's nothing wrong with having something in McDonald's, it's just not the type of food that a fancy restaurant would make. It also reaches way more people...

But his entire point is literally that anyone now CAN make haute cuisine and get famous for it, without going to culinary school and going up the ladder. Almost all of the pop stars now, especially in Hip Hop, have almost zero actual musical knowledge, like which chords go with each other, how to build a song etc. Do you know how many songs nowadays are just: intro, verse, chorus, verse chorus, bridge, chorus, chorus, chorus and fade out? they're like barely 2-3 minutes long because they don't have the talent to carry a 6 minute song, and the fans also don't have the attention span to follow it, because they don't actually LISTEN to it. They'll hear the lyrics and post them on a motivational post on IG, but couldn't give a rats ass about the music behind it. Like Herbie Hancock's "Headhunters" literally only has 4 songs on the ENTIRE album, and those 4 songs possess more ideas and concepts and talent than almost every modern pop artist's entire discography combined. It's not "old man yells at cloud" to say that modern technology has enabled the entire populace with a laptop and fruity-loops to be able to "make music" and start a career out of it. That's why people make fun of soundcloud rappers and indie folk singers; they oversaturate an already completely oversaturated market and allow everyone to "have a chance". We do need to start gatekeeping music making more and only letting actual musicians become famous. It's sad how some of the best actual musicians are in non main-stream spaces and will probably never get heard because they also play with other actual musicians and it becomes a vicious cycle. Look at the Zildjian Live series here on youtube and pick any video, and just pick out a single musician, not necessarily the drummer, and go down a rabbit hole of what groups and bands they're a part of. Every single member of Snarky Puppy and the Ghost-Note band has more musical talent individually than the entire modern music industry combined......and it's not even close. But they won't ever see the main-stream because the VAST majority of people don't actually even like music, they like the artist's "brand" and only follow them because they're famous.

​@@jacksondolly3248ain't nobody reading allat

@@jacksondolly3248 dude you live in a very secluded bubble, and you preconceived notions about people not caring for musicality are so pretentious it’s actually cartoony, I suggest getting some bitches

Except music is bad because old people are picking what is played and they pick the most lifeless, repetitive, dull shit to be popular.

Good one there😂😂

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What's a 'soundcloud' heheh

GET IN THE BOOTH

I guess most average Rick's fans are just going to gloss over your reply here and look for the convenience to drop the same kind of "in defense of" refutation elsewhere lol 🤭

He also ignored the fact that search engines are almost unusable now and there's no need to even use them for anything let alone finding music.

Nobody likes you when you’re 23

I agree but then why are Millennials & Gen Z reviving Vinyl and say it “sounds” better?

@@joesmith4443 Because it sounds better.

@@Randy950 😂

@@Randy950 50% of ALL vinyl records sold are not even opened and bought by those who don’t even own a turntable. Not to mention “collectible” “variants” & virgin vinyl vs recycled then preach about climate change & pollution 🤣

Stagnant technology stifles innovation. Go ahead and tell me what technological innovations have come out in music in the past 20 years.

@@The16thninjaAutotune? DAWs? Easier access to music making, equipment getting cheaper and cheaper to the point an entire studio is just a few hundred dollars

@@s.s9221 Autotune and DAWs have been around for over 25 years at this point. The first iPhone came out in less than 25 years than when the CD player was released for reference.

​@@The16thninja Autotune and DAWs have evolved exponentially in the last 25 years, to the point that it's way easier to record music at home nowadays, which is why we got Billie Eilish. Social media is an innovation that makes it easier than back in the day for artists to find new fans which, in turn, make it easier to make more music. The equipment keeps getting better, however, that's slower than it used to be. Great music is still being made because of technology.

@@virajdeshpande3701 they really haven't evolved that much at all actually, they've just gotten a bit more intuitive and easy to use. Social media is not a musical innovation.

No, its Kai CenatvsYuno Miles

Yeah that's Rick boomer

Its so silly, doesn't he know that MY preferences are the ones that are objective?

But you do realize Deep Purple's "Pictures of Home", or Emerson Lake and Palmers "Tarkus", or Led Zeppelins, "In the Light", or Iron Maiden's "Rime of the Ancient Mariner", "Alexander the Great", "Hallowed be Thy Name" etc are all miles and miles and miles better thought out, executed, and recorded than anything produced today?

@@jacksondolly3248 oh yeah that's right I forgot. We bow down to your generation's objective superiority!! Might as well just stop making new music, amirite?

​@@jacksondolly3248No? Cause it's not true

@@jacksondolly3248listen to anything produced by thundercat please

Someone should mail that comment to him by pigeon

The point of the "new technology" is that people are skipping music theory and hard work, as well as creativity. Instead, they "sample" old music and loop everything with digital copies, throw in a few new words and claim a hit. If you want to say that is creative, go ahead, but it's not original.

It’s the lack of creativity that’s the issue, not technology advancing. Music is much ‘simpler’ now than ever before despite all of the technological advances. That’s because people are using tech to do the work for them instead of as a tool. No craftsmanship.

@@kd2mill what a tired, boring boomer take. The Beatles infamously didn't know music theory. most successful bands and artists don't know anything other than basic theory, they just make music that sounds good. also on sampling, half the songs in the charts right now are not based around samples. go listen to J Dilla or Madlib and try to pretend sampling isn't impressive. also, Prince programmed drum machines, and he absolutely had more talent than any of your favorites.

He didn't say old tech is better or that new tech is bad, moreso that the new tech is allowing music to get worse. This is a misrepresentation of his point.

Hahaha

Seal also says, in the same interview, that he didn't know how to play an instrument when he wrote that song. Genius just kinda finds a way within it's own context.

On the grave tho?!?!?!? 🔥

@@AvenEngineer I don't entirely believe that, I'm sure there was a lot of instinct going on though and people don't use that enough these days, sometimes it's better to feel than think

@@NickSBailey I may not have expressed my point clearly, because I completely agree with you. It's often better to feel than think. I'm not a musician, but I have read the Tascam 244 manual. It didn't inspire me to create a masterpiece. Musical genius existed inside Seal's head, that even he was unaware of in the moment. The tools at his disposal are just a conduit through which his genius expressed itself. This song specifically is the expression of an artist experimenting with new technology, not technical mastery of that technology. I find new artists online that blow my mind virtually everyday. They're making completely new sounds with new gear. In my view, there has never been more technical mastery of traditional musical instruments. The kids graduating from Berkley, Juilliard, or 100 other art programs around the world, by the thousands, are unbelievably good.

It's like the "would we be better off without technology" debate except applied to music, something much more low-stakes. People are always going to be able to make low-quality music and high-quality music, more tools are available now to do both more effectively.

Exactly, at one point he was describing how difficult it used to be to make music and how that somehow made the music better but all I could hear was that access to money and industry connections used to be essential to being successful in music and now it's not. His arguments are so unbalanced and unnuanced that he doesn't even mention any counterpoints to his own arguments or any potential benefits of the things he doesn't like, he just says they're bad. Boomers gonna boomer

Music is definitely easier to make. Even from scratch. There is so much free information to learn an instrument online.

Music is absolutely easier to make than ever, I say that as a musician. It’s still hard to make great music, but most music listeners don’t care about the actual quality of it. That being said it’s still hard to make music and good that more people are able to now

its the new wave of the future!

Because he's a boomer

I almost can’t take people’s criticisms on “modern music” seriously anymore if they haven’t listened to SOPHIE or formed an opinion on PC Music… which is probably a bit pretentious and wrong of me, but it’s become so ingrained in my musical “worldview” that I really can’t help it.

@@drummerAVA Not even PC Music, just ask for their opinion on Björk. Watch them try to box her capability/proficiency in music by which song they bring up.

Terrible take. The man is aware there’s good music out there. Just not in the mainstream. Lol

@@blakeunderwood1075 he chooses to ignore good new music and thinks that bad music is now all music which it definitely isn't

@@blakeunderwood1075 also the music he likes is somewhat dated, there is nothing wrong with liking 80s-00s rock, but its been a minimum of 25 years

It's not. There are all kinds of studies on lyrics, chord and rhythm changes, melodies and counter melodies, etc. Music today is way dumbed down. Where are the anthems and ear worms that will stand the test of time?

Listen to more music

Still, most people aren’t googling music or related topics to find music they like.

@@BallMuncher555 You are missing my point though, you don't have to google anything, The API is tracking what you are doing on the internet. Rick is pulling "Topic" results not just search results. In a sense, it is spying on you doing the search results for you. Google Topic is borderline spyware. It was Google FloC and cookies before then. Most of Google's business revenue is still from their ad business after the EU ruling years ago to allow the client to control what cookies are stored on your computer (all the popups on websites now), plus adblock use, the rise of mobile, and some social media restricting Google's access they had to find new ways to serve targeted ads. So just by watching this video you will be in the search for Pop, Rap, Music, etc. Topic also auto-generates RU-vid channels based off interest for obscure topics now, and they will take priority in many cases. Anthony and Rick are both hyperbolic but more out of ignorance. Both Rick is pulling up more than just "search" results, and Anthony is correct nobody uses search as much anymore. TLDR: More people would rather watch the new video from their fav RU-vidr/Twitch/TikTok influencer than watching or listen to something music related even though music is listened to now more than ever because of ease of access. Social media has done this to literally every other entertainment medium because it is entertainment as well.

Sorry for the wall of text, but the "Google Topic" is insane and not enough people understand it.

lol

Cringe

Fantaner sux but at least he means well and tries to be a nice enough guy and beato like REALLY sucks azz lololol. And you love them both which means you suck the hardest jfc lolz.

Stop watching Fantano and reconcile them

I know right it just annoys me that he bases his whole argument on that after claiming he's good at understanding technology. Like no not at all

interest in playboi carti’s upcoming album “MUSIC” has been declining since 2004. face it, pop music is dead

It's like realizing your grandpa is suffering from Alzheimer's

I knew his sister, she didn't even want to talk about him.

Rick's or aphex's? ​@@huwmorgan74

​@@huwmorgan74rick's sister or Aphex Twin's twin?

@@ShirubaGin probably Aphex twin. Rick's Sister randomly appearson stream sometimes in the comments.

Aphex twin also has some of the most random pieces of software used in his music so I think anyone would loose their mind at looking at his production

I don’t think my generation have it easy especially what is happening today because of the government after the pandemic. Out of respect, just because you didn’t have it “easy” doesn’t mean everyone should have the same experience you had. The main issue is we don’t have opportunities because no one even guided our generation the right way.

​@@christiansoto1367 You realize the original comment is satire, right?

Did you actually read the comment you replied to? ​@@christiansoto1367

Rick Beato did make a very good point here but didn't connect it right. I think, because it's so easy to listen to music, people do so without actually properly getting into it. Guess what they listen to? Bland pop. (back in the day, these people would not buy records or actively make radio requests; they wouldn't show up) Also, because it's so easy to listen to bland pop, people properly into music also run across it, when in the past, who could imagine wasting _money_ on such a thing? The Least Common Denominator Music appears more popular nowadays because of how people consume music these days. I genuinely think good music acts are less likely to become among the most world renowned these days. But that's not a big deal because it's not real popularity; it's just apparent. TikTokification, is, IMO a real thing, however. It discourages emotional depth. How can you, if you only have 15 seconds?

⁠@@shambhav9534this is just not true, ask any person older than 35 and you’ll se how most of them like regular pop or the traditional stuff people like on your country, just from their time, and even some current day pop, and it’s not like tik tok is the way people listen to music, tv shows, ads and movies also aren’t good ways to listen to music (you can discover music on all of these tho)

well, who wouldn’t?

​@@outlavv9892what he meant was that rick only listens to the surface level of modern music and gets all angry and upset .but ignores the modern gems that are not so popular

@fartingmantis I made this comment before he brought that up in my watch through of the video but I think it still stands. I think he's on tiktok probably has a lot of exposure to that realm of music, much of which can be absolute garbage

​@@fartingmantisyes he need to replace spotify top 10 with some other top 10 music.

I'd be upset if I had to use tiktok, too

Mikes and miles ? lol

Your recommendation was fkng trash lol. And you saved for a tascam ? You're as old as Rick lol

But they MADE that "trash". Now, because of shitty tech, 90% of music is trash

I’m sure he grieves that every day.

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​@@ShigesatoItoi 😭😭😭

gottem

​@@miimasterCharliehes actually refrencing the actual samples jpeg used in a song

THEY BALD LIKE US THEY BALD LIKE US THEY BALD LIKE US

I hope we get another Cal Chuchesta track out of this

i think hes saying the trash then is better than the trash now EXCPET theres now far more trash than in all the eras combined or at least will soon be

@@username.exenotfound2943 trash then was honestly just as/if not more abysmal than it is now. But like Fantano said, it’s a matter of tastes not an objective measure of what’s happening in music. I feel like games discourse devolves into the same logic. People often can’t separate their taste from the real, historical banality of the current gen. There’s good and bad across all decades.

@@username.exenotfound2943 more trash, more good stuff, more of everything - acting like the only thing there is more of is trash means you're just doing what the old man is doing - editing. Going into a store stuffed with CD's back in the 90's = most of it was trash. You just want to focus on the non-trash. Anyway, there is some great music from people with low follows. Just like you needed to leave the top ten 30 years ago for a ton of great stuff, you have to do it now, just differently.

Exactly this! People tend to forget it and only remember the highlights. Which is understandable, that's how the human brain works. However, take a look at a random top 40 hit chart from the 60's and chances are you'll know only 1 or 2 songs.

Games from the 80's are generally bad and incredibly "small" compared to modern standards. Of course there's a fair amount of genuinely great games, but by and large the medium in the 80's was held back immensely by limited technology and low budgets.

No. Rick gets a glass of water from the ocean handed to him. He takes a nip and bases his opinion of the whole ocean on that one nip. But he's not alone in that, a lot of people do. While most people don't even take a nip but just look at the glass.

@@fortheloveofmusic860*sip

Beautiful analogy

This is a dumb comment. Spotify top 10 tells you what most average people like... It's called extrapolation lmao. If 99% of music is bad, and I have to go searching for the 1% that is good, unique, and actually quality. Then I can confidently say "most modern music is bad", is that wrong?

@@OArchivesX no, not logic. These kids are too emotional they can't handle it. The majority of these kids commenting are born after the 2000s. Literally born to hear the music of today with very little reference and live reference of the music that came before it. The ocean wasn't a polluted hell hole back then.

At least he's self-aware.

@@gclip9883 Awareness isn't a redeeming trait, Bojack.

Rap sucks. You're just too afraid to say it

r/ShitAmericansSay

Obviously, but so did so many other producers, even many that came before her?

most people don't realize how incredibly influential SOPHIE was

I absolutely couldn't agree more

She didn't however understand gravity.... 😂😂😂😂

I still miss her everyday damn it😔

​​@@nickl2854Rick needs to listen to some Knocked Loose at the mosh pits and King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard. It will change his life.

lol

​@@nickl2854That's what I Teel to my 80 year old Grandpa. "Stop being lazy and just listen 100 gecs."

There really isn't. I suggest you go listen to the 60's-90's

@@AFellowCyberman Lol he definitely knows that stuff.