Beginner Mistakes To Avoid: How To Solo Over Chords

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There is a difference between how you think about chord progressions if you are a beginner and if you are more experienced, and that is something that is probably holding you back and making your solos sound like unconnected fragments instead of a real piece of music.
In this video, I am going to talk about how to fix that!
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01:51 Learning To Think Ahead And Play Towards Chords
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@JensLarsen 3 года назад

What is your approach to nailing the changes and understanding the chord progression? How To Solo Over Chord Changes: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r_HZSUfOKwM.html

@jeffjfindley4802 3 года назад

Said it before, I'll say it again. You are a terrific teacher. :)

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you 🙂

@RC32Smiths01 3 года назад

Soloing over chords and their progression is definitely essential to composing and improvising. Awesome!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Definitely! Thansk RC

@RC32Smiths01 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen You are welcome as always!

@GreenGenesMr 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen strong beat = 1 and 3 youre saying in the video. meaning you want to more often than not land on those beats. thought 2 and 4 sould be str9ng in a swing setting. lighten my lantern Master :) Great video as always!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

@@GreenGenesMr Maybe try to analyze some solos so that you can see how people like Parker actually play. Right now you are confusing melody, harmony, and groove :)

@stephanzo1 3 года назад

Thanks for all the wisdom Jens! I just got back into my Joe Pass guitar styles book. I'm loving the minor blues examples.

@allanrussack2844 3 года назад

Really well done. We are so fortunate to have knowledge like this at our fingertips!

@ibji 3 года назад

When I first started playing, and got to the point where I wanted to 'show off' my skills, someone said to me, 'Oh, you play like Joe Pass.' So I said (to myself) 'ok, um fine...who's Joe Pass?' So I went out and got his book to see if I really did play like him. Turns out, no I don't, but at least I got his book.

@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx 3 года назад

Passanova is a great song though

@allanrussack2844 3 года назад

There’s only one Joe Pass!

@benkatof4240 3 года назад

The analogy to language is so true. I try to see where I am in those terms and progress toward telling a story. Good lesson.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you Ben! :)

@warrenwilson7836 3 года назад

Thanks again, Jens. By making the narrative on this video your own personal journey, you made it easy to connect with and it puts the idea of reharmonization in a nice context.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it, Warren!

@ainsleystones4600 3 года назад

Excellent as always. Much appreciated. :)

@chrisjowaisas95 3 года назад

Woh, I just tried playing a line with target notes and it actually sounded like jazz. First time for everything! thx man!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Great! 🙂

@MusicMakesMyDay 3 года назад

Yes! Great tip and a big help! Thanks for all your videos - help me a lot!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@rillloudmother 3 года назад

lol, i remember using F dominant b6 scale on 'well you needn't' and thinking, 'Yeah Baby, I'm Playin' Jazz Now!'

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Haha! Yeah 🙆

@pianowill01 3 года назад

Great video, Jens. As always, useful information presented in an interesting and engaging way. 👍

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you 🙂

@MatthewPapenfuss 3 года назад

Jens, this is EXACTLY where I'm at w/ guitar. I had realized that I can roll through a scale in different modes as the chords change...however there is a tremendous amount of mental gymnastics that is hard to apply in practice, at tempo. The result is disconnected lines, exactly as you describe. Thank you for the video, the idea of soloing from a different (and already seemingly easier) perspective or thinking one step ahead and knowing where I want to land is helping me. Still much to learn and practice with this approach but I notice a better melodic quality to my shitty playing.

@captainkoo 3 года назад

Brilliant lesson as usual! Clear, logical, understandable. I gotta go practice!

@richardsullivan6297 3 года назад

Thanks for this Jens. I can't believe that there are one or two picky comments about such a helpful and well-presented video. Your advice will certainly help me iron out a few problems with my own playing . This was a very useful and worth while video. Thanks again.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Glad you like it Richard, I try not to worry too much about the internet :D

@juandelacruz5247 3 года назад

Amazing as always! Thank you Jens. Been studying Jazz for years now but stii struggling so much. Your lessons help a lot! Will try this target notes in my next practice of Arpeggios.

@eddierey5202 8 месяцев назад

I feel your pain.

@DavidGiragosian 3 года назад

I really like your videos, Jens, because they compel me to be more thoughtful with the notes I play. It’s a far cry from using a single scale to solo over a rock song.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you Davide! Really glad to hear that!

@EclecticEssentric 3 года назад

Great advice, thanks Jens!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

You're welcome Timmy!

@the___dude 3 года назад

This is exactly what I need! Thank you so much for this! I've been struggling to connect solos over chord changes ❤️

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Great that you find it useful 🙂

@cankutbayhan 3 года назад

having this much experience and study on the topic, it is really refreshing to have those personal fragments, memoirs and alike in connection. it was superb fun , tell us more please.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thanks! I will keep that in mind!

@fabiobonetta5454 3 года назад

Always inspiring

@vishyoutubevideos 3 года назад

This is a good lesson for me, Jens. I've been mostly practicing written out solos for a few jazz standards. I'd like to make the jump more improvisation though. I tend to get lost in just trying to hit the key changes. I'll give this approach a try.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Great to hear VIshal!

@erfHz 3 года назад

I wish I had this six years ago but glad it exists now. Possibly the best explanation I've ever seen

@bagragaurav8 3 года назад

Thanks so so so much Jens!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Glad you like it 🙂

@khaiwest8769 3 года назад

Thank you so much! I can finally play smoother and for a more prolonged period.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Great to hear! Go for it!

@tawandamanika530 3 года назад

Thank you so much Jens for these lessons. You've inspired me to learn and inspired me to move past autodidactic thinking and look for a teacher

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

You are welcome! Realy glad you going for it and finding a teacher!

@tobyarmstrong246 3 года назад

This is a fantastic lesson...

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you, Toby 🙂

@deanc.5984 3 года назад

Jazz is hard!🤣 I've been strumming chords najor-minor chords for years. Jazz is SOOoo challenging, overwhelming, I need to find your "Day1 So you wanna play jazz" lesson.😎☕ Is there a Jazz scale? I dont read music but ill watch & practice. Thank you for your lessons. Your famous in Cincinnati Ohio!🍺👍🍻

@traindude3968 3 года назад

Superb lesson Jens. I mean they all are but this one is an A++ for applicability

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you 🙂

@souviksen7497 3 года назад

This is why Diatonic and Chromatic enclosures are so important to use to sound more Jazzy while soloing...especially Chromatic Enclosures.

@mark-ze4en 3 года назад

It has been suggested by other instructors that when one goes to learn a tune, it is useful to memories the chart/progression and be able to recite it before you play the piece or at least as a major part of the process of learning the changes. Reciting verbally the changes internalizes the chords in your brain so you are not struggling to interpret the tonal qualities coming up in the next chord when soloing on your instrument.

@grobertabidbol4005 3 года назад

Thanks Master!

@JSDJerry 3 года назад

Have you promoted your "The Jazz Guitar Roadmap" on youtube? I bought your course and am more than half way through and it's been an amazing experience. I learned to much. Now I have a complete curriculum from A to Z for beginning jazz improv. I'm even reviewing the lessons i already completed. You should share this with the world.

@redicoyote 3 года назад

Thank you for the video! I hope more people are teaching this way in schools now. The way I was taught was... not good

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

You are welcome! I do think that the methods are changing to be more like this :)

@Prince.is. 3 года назад

this is way beyond my level of understanding, yet i know everything that you say....my brain is stuck on 3 modes....i truly think many people are gifted with playing and hearing music...i struggle extremely...and I practice almost every day.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Just stick with it, remember to enjoy the journey not just look at the result

@phuxmusic7538 3 года назад

First of all: Thank you for all the amazing videos you make and share with us! I have a, maybe unrelated, question: what Strings do you play on your Semi? Is it a valid / common option to play flatwounds on a Semi or are they more often used for hollowbodies only?

@stevenb.9839 3 года назад

Thx Mr. Larsen 👍👏

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

You're very welcome! I am glad you like it! 🙂

@santiagoestebanherrera1446 3 года назад

Some comments: First of all, the work done in your videos is amazing. The lesson scheme, dynamics and graphic effects combined are really something. Also i want to thank you for sharing all your expertise to the world wide jazz guitar players community (writing from argentina). Right now I'm stuck on how to play over a chord progression. The problem is that scales are not flowing through my veins. So, I can't think of connecting chords without having practiced scales on each one previously (and that is exactly that you dont recommend to do). It's kind of a paradox. What should i do? Thanks for all! Really appreciate your hard work!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Maybe try this : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2Ze22BNftAA.html

@jezudykw 3 года назад

gavin harrison said, that when he got the gig with king crimson, robert fripp sat him down and told him "don't end your breaks on the 1st beat. i know where the 1st is." that's what I keep in mind, when I create lines/licks: robert fripp telling me how not to do it :)

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

You need to know the rules to break them. If Gavin didn't know where the one was, he probably would not get the gig...

@zorranism 3 года назад

David Baker's method on creating be bop lines by choosing target notes on up and down beats was very helpful to me in this matter.

@cjgreen4331 3 года назад

So his book was good? Because I've heard negative things about it too, do you mind explaining what you mean too?

@RDYC 3 года назад

The Pillsbury ad was okay. The indeed ad rocked.

@chrissguitarshow206 3 года назад

Hello jens great video

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you 🙂

@Ed-Topo-108 3 года назад

A common issue on these type of changes is leading a line on the 1 (of the new chord). I wasn’t aware how much I did it until recording my soloing.

@dieterdebusschere8926 3 года назад

Thank you so much Jens for again a very valuable and clearly explained lesson! Now in order to practice the "think ahead, lock on your next target note and guide your phrase to that note" routine, would it be possible to recommend some less complex songs that are in reach of a classic and reasonably proficient (Bb brass) musician, but an absolute novice in jazz improvisation? Such guidance would be really appreciated. Thanks!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Glad you like the video! Maybe check out some of these videos with recommendaitons: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1q0BrTKK6gk.html

@dieterdebusschere8926 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen I would not be surprised if doctors would find a jazz rhythm instead of a normal heartbeat when examining you Jens... your devotion to learn, explain and teach jazz is just astonishing! Thanks again for all your time and effort to get us on the right track, it is really appreciated! Now let's prepare for some serious woodshedding to do 😊!

@sclogse1 3 года назад

I'm learning to play Nature Boy by ear, no chords. I find that I can segue into Buddy Can You Spare A Dime (also single notes) and you can't even notice the transition. It's fun, of course, but it also opens up notes for soloing you may not have thought of. And of course it works both ways. I see nothing wrong with a harmonic solo that is melodic at the same time.

@mark-ze4en 3 года назад

Occurred to me. Are you talking about "key of the Moment" playing",, this term always kinda bothered me until I started thinking more modally at my guitar and piano. The 'key of the moment " is a term I heard studying Dave Frank improvisation. Can you elucidate/ compare or differentiate these concepts? Thanks Jens!! Love your videos!!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Key of the moment? Never heard that. I am just looking at the key of the song. I have a few videos where I discuss the obvious problems with thinking in modes and playing Jazz. You can look them up on my channel.

@markusrukkila4348 2 года назад

Thanks Jens for the lesson. Wonderful and very helpful, thanks. I listened a few times and tried to read some of the comments but couldn't find an answer and figured I'd ask: most of the target notes you show at about the 4:15 mark are chord tones except for the Ab on the G7 (a flat 9th) and the Db on the F7 (a #5/b6), is this a way in which you are trying to bring out the altered chord tones in the solo or are your targeting passing notes because they are close to the next chords chord tones? Or is there some particular reason why you chose the target notes that you did? Sorry for my inability to really articulate the question well and thanks again for these helpful videos.

@JensLarsen 2 года назад

A target note has to be clear in the context and sound like the chord, and the Ab (b9) on the G7 is a very distinct and clear sound in the context of Bb major similar to how a b13 is very much a clear sound for an F7alt. I guess if you play the lines slowly and pause on the target note you should be able to hear that the chord is changing. hope that helps explain it :)

@Jeppeklh 3 года назад

Hey! Will you be doing a video on what to practice on a minor 2 - 5 - 1 progression?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Maybe one of these? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xZxwX6YAJ48.html

@Jeppeklh 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen Thank you! This was exactly what i was looking for :)

@swiftla 3 года назад

2nd. Great vid thanks

@jasonmudgarde286 3 года назад

Joe Pass said he forgot about II m7 chord, was same notes as V7, thinking ahead like you said.

@swiftla 3 года назад

Should bar 3 and 4 be Eb Dorian ? I'm not used to hearing lydian over a m7 chord

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Yes, that is a mistake for sure, but maybe it is pretty accurate for how I sounded at the time 😂

@swiftla 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen phew! Haha thanks again, I got alot from this video

@golds04 3 года назад

Just from a different perspective- does one think the father of modern jazz guitar- thought “ where should put a Dorian or Lydian scale “ during solo flight. ? Different strokes ... in my mind time spent finding what you hear is at least as important. The scales will have to just go and figure out how to make sense of what sounds pretty.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

I doubt that Charlie Christian was thinking in modes :D But, being aware of scales does not exclude playing what you hear, in fact it helps most people to do so. That is about how you work with it. I think we can agree that Shakespeare probably knew the alphabet or grammar even if he did not think about it when writing.

@laureanoahmad7495 3 года назад

Great video. One question. Which is the tempo you use on your metronome?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

That depends on what I am doing?

@laureanoahmad7495 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen just a piece of advice...?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

@@laureanoahmad7495 ok! 111 bpm

@swiftla 3 года назад

What a strange question my dude

@cjgreen4331 3 года назад

@@swiftla he's gonna start playing everything from donna lee to misty at 111bpm now

@eddierey5202 8 месяцев назад

"It is as if, when the chord changes, you might as well just be playing a different song." BINGO!!

@rockstarjazzcat 3 года назад

👍🏼

@NeoGodHand 3 года назад

First off, thanks for the lesson! I'm bad at theory and I have a question: Are the often played lines of John Scofield and Allan Holdsworth considered diminished lines? Conventional jazz playing is relatively easy to receive, because you can clearly hear a prudent soloist weaving their lines with the changes/modes. However, with the two guys I mentioned earlier, among many others like Pharaoh Sanders, they play what sounds like consistent diminished sounds, constantly tensing and resolving over and over. Now, most soloists use dissonance in nearly all of their lines, but particular players have a way of making that fictitious, retrofuturistic computer sound that I actually like to hear a lot.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you! It is more complicated than just using diminished scale 🙂

@NeoGodHand 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen Think any of that styling is something you'll go over someday?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

@@NeoGodHand I have videos analyzing both artists on the channel, try going there and search :)

@NeoGodHand 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen Blegh, I took the ignoramus approach and didn't search beforehand 😥 I should know better. Thanks for taking the time to reply. You're a great teacher and a great player. Take care!

@jelmarmanuel974 3 года назад

Why is Db a target note in F7? (schedule at 4:17). I mean it is not in the chord. All the other target notes are chord tones.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

If you play the examples slowly you can hear that the b13 is a very clear note to suggest an F7 altered :)

@1on95 3 года назад

The two links to other videos in the description link to the same video..

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Fixed! Now it is the right link for the second one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GXIJdBWNyVQ.html

@joaquincalcetin 3 года назад

how to choose good target notes?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Maybe check out this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-q6TRWFf_WQo.html

@KevinToine 3 года назад

But there are so many possible option to play over chords. How do you decide what to choose?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

How about practicing some basic things and see if you can make it into music?

@JAYDUBYAH29 3 года назад

Arpeggios!

@mr.kilpatrick2991 3 года назад

Jens at 4:21 I am not understanding why you are considering Ab to start a G7 chord or a Db to start a F7 chord are good target notes. What is your logic for selecting notes that are not in the chord - wouldnt you want to target a note in G7 or F7?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

You can do that as well, but in this context the altered extensions are really clear and easy to hear.

@KamilKisiel 3 года назад

0:23 - Switching to the strat... ouch

@GaryMcNeill 3 года назад

Oh man, the shameful memories of me doing this when I was learning! It sounds like you stole my "lines" from 4 years ago :P

@joselekiwi5695 3 года назад

Im dealing with this.

@dacosnama 3 года назад

Man music is fun

@ChristianWilliamsYachting 3 года назад

More secrets revealed with the usual clarity. But as you must have heard by now, hard to concentrate with the competing track in the background.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Thank you! No, I don't think any of the other 25K viewers mentioned the background music 🙂

@christiankraut6554 3 года назад

So here's 25K minus 2 for you: I also strongly feel, that your videos tend to be overproduced, although beautifully rich in content. Also you talk very fast - almost a little breathless -, so my old brain demands me to stop and reverse all the time. Please regard this criticism as constructive - I really do appreciate your work!

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

@@christiankraut6554 That's fair even if it is now 33K - 2 :) I try to make videos that most people appreciate (which on YT means click and watch long), and "over-production" has not been bad in that regard. The older videos can not compete with that at all. I try other formats as well once in a while to test, but it is usually pretty clear. If I didn't, then you would never have found my videos in the first place. Two people mentioning background music in a few weeks come close to something I can write off as bad laptop speakers, language problems, general level of the people watching and other stuff like that. Things I can't really do anything about anyway. It's a little like the jump-cuts: Some people find that annoying and complain, but if retention on the video is up 20-30% then all the other people who didn't complain but just watched longer also gave their opinion. This video is a good example of that.

@ChristianWilliamsYachting 3 года назад

@@JensLarsen "I can write off as bad laptop speakers, language problems, general level of the people watching and other stuff like that." Native English speaker here, and 30 years as television producer in Los Angeles.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

@@ChristianWilliamsYachting Surely, with your background, you understand why the data from YT tells a different story than a few comments? There is background music on all my videos for about 2 months now, and I don't even get one comment on it on every video, I think I have had between 5 and 10 in total, and two of them are you guys. That is not a lot compared to how many comments I get telling me that I talk too much, that I can't play guitar or that I am ugly, or more importantly the 95% of the comments who are happy with the content. I only answer this because I think it makes sense to explain it, that not everyone in who watches the video is exactly like you two, and that makes a difference.

@100marmoo 3 года назад

I am a singer first, and have been studying jazz guitar for several years. As a vocalist well practiced in singing jazz harmonies, classical harmonies etc, I can hear the notes I want to hit. I would love to see an exploration of hearing better. I recommend guitarists try to sing/scat over a tune to explore possibilities. What do you think?

@adamburger5761 3 года назад

I saw the thumbnail, Jens looked at me with such disapproval I quit guitar all together. Thanks Jens, 25 years down the drain. Oh well, back to the recorder.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Haha! Don't lose faith :)

@cjgreen4331 3 года назад

You're right, the thumbnail is hilarious

@sherlanmamaril7368 3 года назад

It's hard

@ilyan.v.371 3 года назад

I'm not sure to understand why we would play a Db on the F7 chord.. isn't this F7 the V7 of Bb major? Why would the 6 of F be minor?

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

F7 altered it is a b13 :)

@josh_nj 3 года назад

First😅

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Well done :)

@fredflander4505 3 года назад

He talks toooo much .....

@tradbowseven 3 года назад

No problem, just play in a different key😂

@HarryGuit 3 года назад

Oh, these Jazzers: Theory on theory about everything. Analyses of music destroy music. Don‘t think about the next note, rather listen to your heart. If the note you hear there doesn‘t fit, it is the wrong piece. That‘s how you develop your own music. Forget about styles.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

Do you mean "Analysis of music destroys music" or are you developing you own language as well as your own music?

@jaysteels 3 года назад

Harry, analysis is descriptive, not prescriptive. What you call "listening to your heart" is following an impulse and following through on it using internalized knowledge. If I'm soloing, and I play what would be say, a minor 6th from the preceding note, I don' think "next, I will play a b6 interval from the current note", I just play it - because years of study and work make the impulse, and the playing of it, shorter than the actual thought process. That's why people practice and study...

@HarryGuit 3 года назад

@Jens Larsen Analyses is the plural of analysis. And that‘s not what I commented on. Look for a typo to talk about something else.

@HarryGuit 3 года назад

@Marwin Moody I know what you are talking about because I went through it. I now regard it as a loss of time.

@JensLarsen 3 года назад

@@HarryGuit You clearly have no idea about how knowing music theory influences your playing or how it can help you make music with other people in Jazz. Your problem is that you think music theory is a set of rules that stops you from playing something, or forces you to play something else, when it is actually a way to describe how the notes you play sound. Go check out that interview with David Gilmour where he talks about how playing changes and following chords is a huge help and a basic part of making music.