Behind The Servants: Explaining The Alters 

"You can't make this stuff up." Someone did. Someone literally did and we're paying for it.

Trivia: According to Da Vinci, Atalante Alter is not really an alter. Her reasoning is this: The personality of an Alter Servant is based of personality traits present in the living version of the Heroic Spirit, but never manifested outwards nor acted upon (discarded ideas or desires, so to speak). However, Atalante "Alter"'s personality and trauma were born while she was a Servant, so they weren't ever present while she was alive. In fact, her most driving force is the trauma she experienced during Apocrypha. So the Alter in Atalante is just flavour text.

Two small nitpick about Arjuna Alter. 1 The one you summon is actually a Lily Servant. 2 He didn't absorb all the gods to gain more power, just because. In the cutscenes you end up understanding that, he wanted that power to stop something like the war that took his family, in the Mahabarata, from happening again. Problem is, he ended up losing his way.

I remember in Carnival Phantasm that Saber chooses to remove her ahoge herself and promptly changes into Salter, only changing back from shame/wholesomeness when seeing Shirou. That series was my first encounter with memes before I could scroll the internet freely.

Lostbelts are tearjerkers, rest well little girl.. you've suffered enough **sobbs and summons for Godjuna, fails**

I don't think it's ever been verified, but I believe Cu Alter's appearance is at least partly based on Cu's riastrad/warp-spasm ability from legend. He'd turn into a berserking hideous monster with inverted legs, a gaping mouth you could see his organs inside, his hair became massive spikes, etc.

If you roll Atalante alter she could transform into her archer form: that would explain why i got her two forms in the same 10 pull

On Emiya-Alter, this version of Emiya was summoned to stop Kiara and her cult. A lot of the backstory of Emiya-Alter is unknown but Kiara and her cult is the main factor to his backstory. Notes: Kiara in Fate/Extra, due to a curse attracted large amounts of cultists who praise her beauty. This allows her to gains cult, wether she wants it or not Emiya-Alter's mind was more broken due to the unshakable loyalty of Kiara's cultists. Murdering a unknown amount of cultists who threw themselves Infront of Kiara. As shown with Shirou, Emiya dispises those who have a unshakable and stubborn mindset. And the cultists, every single one measuring in thousands at least, held the drive to protect Kiara. Basically: Every cultist became a mirror of Shirou that Emiya had to cut down. And at the end, he wasn't even able to kill Kiara, she killed herself as Emiya got to her. Not even granting Emiya the ability to kill her himself, killing so many cultists to not even touch the leader who he was summoned for

5:24 ah yes, the most accurate popularity measurement, the number of h-doujins.

6:31 Nope that s not what happened at all. Jeanne alter wanted to piss off altria alter by stealing her present bag and giving out all the gifts inside before altria can so altria will be pissed off and all the children who should have got their gift would cry. Also, she asked kid gille for a potion of invisiblity(of course it turn it was the potion of youth) so that it would be a substitute for her lack of presence concealment. It wasn't mentionned to whom jeanne wanted to give the gift but the way she said she was going to hand them out means its probably to anyone but those who re supposed to get them. Edit : after turning into a kid, jeanne alter lily pretty much became a separate entity from her original as she is the one who somehow want to prove she can be a better santa, refere to her grown up counterpart as a separate being and she doesn't even think like the normal jeanne alter.

There's also Marie alter but she's not playable so i don't think we have enough information about her

Honestly we never realize how wild these servants are until we hear someone explain their backstories/lore out loud

just finished LB4 few days ago Asha crying scene break me... and CE we receive break me even more... at first i was thought it's just her, her's father and dog... but that CE... damn you Arjuna!, you erase girl's entire family!?

what I love about Salter is what her description in-game tells us, that it's not necessarily just an evil alternative, but a personification of something that Arthut always longed to be, a ruthless king

Salter's sword was likely self-named, given her respect towards Morgan and Morgan's outrage over the name. Yes, I spoiled my NA ass to hell and back, why are you asking? About Saber Wars, while it's definitely a gag, it's also canon, because it's the Nasuverse we're talking about, of course it is. Is it really more outlandish than magic girls?

I think the most interesting thing about Emiya Alter is that he represents the logical progression of the Heart of Steel bad ending from the original Stay Night visual novel. In the ending Emiya kills Sakura to prevent her from harming more innocents for the sake of living up to his ideals. The reason this is a bad ending is that it would mean abandoning his own personal happiness and humanity to follow the flawed dream that Kiritsugu learned to abandon. For it had ruined him. The fact that Emiya Alter murdered innocents and thus abandoned his humanity and peace of mind for his ideals relays perfectly into one of the most interesting bad ends of the VN. The counter force even corrupts Emiya and causes his memories to fade and become twisted just to maintain the soldier that is Emiya Alter. He is brainwashed to put the Human Order before the happiness of Shirou Emiya as he crumbles for the rest of eternity. His character is a cool callback and thought experiment on the original story. Oh, and to give it even more credibility the skill that cause his brainwashing is called Derisive Heart of Steel.

Ah yes Salter Lalter Jalter Janta Cuzilla Edgemiya Ecchan Nyalter Okitan aaand Nyarjuna Oh, by the way Ecchan dies in the servantverse and somehow manifests again in proper human history as a pop idol where her sheer power of cuteness ends a singularity. No, not kidding.

Lalter(The shortened version of Lancer Artoria Alter), is also an incarnation of the Wild Hunt, a group of roaming beasts, hunters, and spirits, that would show up and wreak havoc across the land, and anyone caught in its range would never come back. The Wild Hunt was a way, in older times, to explain Tornados, Hurricanes, and other similar phenomenon.

personally i want most alters that explore usually joke characters, like an astolfo alter who was never turned back into a person and is a tree person only able to move when summoned, or even having charlemagne be rex magnus karl alter so we can have both instead of only one

A small correction. The counter force and Gaia arent the same anymore. Sometimes the counter force goals may actually go against Gaias goal and vice versa

I finished LB4 a few days ago (I put off progressing thru the story because of events and procrastination) and can't help but see Arjuna alter as a computer or skynet achieved godhood.

Arjuna alter is one of my favorite servants because I find his alignment quite interesting as well as his third ascension.

One thing to add to Cu alter, that i think was a missed opportunity in his creation is that Cu often went berserk in battle (called a "war span" I believe) in the myth his feet bent backwards, one of his eyes popped out of it's socket and streams of blood spewed from his body.

Nyalter has a special kind of Madness Enhancement passive skill, showing she is different than other mad enhanced servants.

I'm glad that you covered Okitan because I had no clue about her, same thing with Lancer Alter. Also can you cover the Grand Servants and the beasts.

The background usually describe the Servant's mind or places they often be. And Emiya Alter's is a Prison Emiya Alter was made when the police finally tried to do something.

I remember some people talking about the possibility of an Boudica Avenger or Lancer Alter once, that would be pretty cool.

I love arjuna alter! He's actually pretty sweet once you bond with him. He's just very... distant. Well... at least from someone who didn't get to play that lost belt yet. I'm still I seventh singularity and sobbing.

Overall great video. Some inaccuracies or outright misrememberings, though. I'd go into detail, but alot of people have already brought them up. Fun fact: Artoria Lancer Alter is NOT evil but Lawful Good. She maintains her alignment, despite becoming a tyrant. Remember, people, Fate alignments aren't the same as Dungeons and Dragons alignments... Gilgamesh is Chaotic Good, afterall.

ME DESCRIBING THE ALTER SERVANTS IN THREE WORDS OR LESS: Salter: Junk food Lalter: More junk food Jalter: OVERRATED Jalter Lily: Needs warm clothes Cu Alter: Thot's wet dream EMIYA ALTER: EDGELORD Ecchan: Loves sweets Nyalter: Angry cat girl Okita Alter: Needs some sleep Arjuna Alter: Few Rate-Ups

I kind of assumed that Cú alter was less of an expression of the blackening and more just Cú being summoned in his "warp spasm" state like in his original legend where he literally transforms into a grotesque monster of a man in his battle fury. The way he transforms in his NP also matches up pretty well with a lot of descriptions I've read from the legend.

fun little fact: Artoria Lancer alter could just be Artoria as the leader of the Wild Hunt, seeing as King Arthur is listed as one of the leaders of the Wild Hunt.

2:48 Now do I think about It I am surprised Ushiwakamaru didn’t get a alter because her situation was similar

The way you explain fate lore is really cool. Would love to see a video about Grand Servants like this.

amazing video, it got me thinking about a similar video idea and it's about covering the beasts of calamity, would be cool if you covered a topic like that

Cú Alter was my first SSR and is my favorite servant, so I felt some genuine joy to hear you went through almost the same thing with him, even though I just discovered your channel

Can't forget that Okita Alter also loves Oden and will use the grail to have an endless supply of Oden

Nice! More of my favourite servants! Jalter is my pride and joy of my Chaldea, but I love all the alters. I think I'd struggle to make a tier list of my favs even. Thanks for another great vid! Never knew Cu and his cos were originally naked and that's where the suits come from. Interesting haha.

My take on what makes an alter is somewhat simpler. I find that depending on the specific servant, certain aspects of character traits witnessed and attested by their lessers are magnified, this magnification being the focal point of the corruption. Artoria, as both Salter and Lalter, was a king of some repute and all kings have power and enemies. Both the Picts and the Saxons, and maybe disenfranchised elements in Camelot, namely Mordred who united them under rebellion, accepted a tainted view of Artoria. This tainted ruler uses authority indiscriminately and does as they please. This trait is even stronger in Jeanne D'Arc Alter, who was defamed and burned as a hateful witch, despite having no such quality about her character. While the were no truths to these crimes, there were still believers in these lies, thus I believe this is how the Grail was able to manifest such a perversion. Cù Chullain Alter is an over simplification of how ruthless he was on the field of battle, even when gravely injured. Nothing less than a raging monster. In fact, his altered form is a technically more accurate representation of his legend than how he is as the beloved Blue Lancer. Even with retcon, Okita Alter further reinforces the notion as Okita was a prodigy. In no time in her incarnation as part of the counter force, knowing nothing, she quickly adapted and overcame the situation. Atalante alter is a strange one as she doesn't fit into that argument. All I can say is that regardless of which class, she is a cat girl because she and her lover were turned into lions and alter is just more lion like, more bestial, than her Archer form. Emiya alter is where it gets really nutty. The red Archer we know comes from the achievement of the dream of the f/sn protagonist becoming a hero of justice by becoming an agent of the counter force. More to the point, alter is the product of Archer's whole twisted ideal in the ubw chapter, crystallized and personified. It's easier to pursue an ideal under an employer who shares in it, even in a more corrupt fashion (read, Kiara) than to do so to a seemingly intangible construct as "the world", because to over simplify the both of them, they're both mercenaries, only Alter is actually getting some payment in exchange, while the red Archer just kinda sits around making swords in his weird workshop. Finally, Arjuna alter is just an ass in a bunny suit.

Arjuna alter we summon in the chaldea is the same we fought in LB4 except he is now less powerful and restricted by servant container like all other lb kings

Love these videos

7:58 that "hot" made me howl in laughter.

3:17 Oh my god! I have been wondering about this for the longest time!

Awesome video! Thank you, man! ^~^

I love how you used magic cards in the video I love some of the lore of the alters I only own the summer event jeanne alter and atalante alter

The second you showed the CE made me cry instantly

Cu alter is also definitely based off Riastrad, the canonical celtic monster form he takes on at various points in the myth, which explains why he physically mutates into a beast in a similar way to Atalanta’s boar form.

Brother I love your videos

Day 1 player here. A huge thank you. Since London's release when I first saw Alter Artoria Lancer, I just couldn't find anywhere how she came to be. Lore was non existant, google's results were scarce beside some japanese sites and translating them didn't help. . When Camelot got released I got even more confused thinking what could've happened for the embodiment of Goddess Rhongomyniad to get corrupted/altered like that. . It never crossed my mind that her Alter Lancer wasn't the Spear Goddess at all but Artoria herself umtil now. Google didn't really helped me here so, again, from the me back in 2017: thank you.

How would a Siegfried or Karna Alter would look like? I bet Siegfried Alter's basically Fafnir in Human form and Karna Alter resembles Super Karna.

What i think happened to emiya is a version who became corrupted by the grail which festered and grew within him slowly and when he joined counterforce it corrupted him or just before and it lead to emiya alters creation

Arjuna Alter.... Or Sana's edgier brother.

Carnival Phantasm made the Saber to Salter transform via ahoge removal canon.

I'm guessing Mysterious Idol X Alter was excluded for both being rather standalone in lore and for not being in NA yet.

"Perhaps the most popular according to nhentai" Lmao you slipped that in there, the delivery was smooth

I only need okitan in my life. Took a lot to raise her to 120 but it's very worth it. Especially when you get her bond CE. I'll gladly feed other SSR to her if need be.

Alters When DW, Aniplex and Ufotable want to make some money by turning waifus and husbandos edgy Unless it’s Arjuna, because he was already an edgy fuck

1:52 Lol that caught me off guard lol

I know nothing about Fate besides the original visual novel, I'm just here because I enjoy seeing the insanity of wider nasuverse from a safe distance.

whould be interesting if in the future they add a beast alter servant boss.

Can't wait for heracles alter to get announced

15:33 I'm so trash that everytime I hear "Everywhere at the End of Time", I start laughing. I'm just coping from listening to 6 hours of dementia.

Little harsh on Arjuna there. If he hadn't done what he did we would have ended them. I wonder how many other wonderful families have ceased to exist due to our collapsing lost belts?

It's weird just how much of a difference a summoned servant had vs the ones we fight in story. I just killed the Dioscuri in Olympus and I HATE them so much for their arrogance, pettiness, and Pollux lack of ability to think of anything beyond "Big Bro is so cool!". Yet the one I summoned is just tame enough that I enjoy them. Same with Chiron and Odysseus.

thanks

fun vid!

I wish we could get more anything for emiya alter

i wonder what a proper EMIYA Alter from Fuyuki would look like

6:18 Arthur: sweats nervously

Angry Mango, I like it.

Oh, yea.... Jzerk is a wrong description. Somehow, the following is the true explanation. To solve a Hawaiian singularity, Master and Jeanne alter fly to hawaii, and she's a massive tourist about it. So she changes to a swimsuit. The reason why she's easier to get along with, is coz BB trapped her and our crew in a Groundhog Day simulation, until we won a Doujin(SFW ones) competition. So her energy gets put into making doujins, making her an overworked, hence nicer servant. Yes this is the story where Jeanne og has a dolphin DONT ASK DONT ASK DONT ASK.

I mean if you have him he does go through sorta character arc in his Ascension and bond lines. But yay he was a dick

I think emiya alter is really interesting because he's basically just emiya but fully played out to his natural conclusion. After shirou becomes a counter force guardian he's basically already an alter, that's why emiya and emiya alter have some similarities between them. Emiya archer is basically shirou's alter version in terms of personality and appearance. Where emiya alter comes in is that regular emiya might have given up his dream and became cold, he never got rid of his humanity which allowed him to keep pieces of his original personality like some slight compassion and a small tendency to save people or not liking collateral damage. Basically shirou is still in there he's just not as idealistic as he once was. Emiya alter on the other hand has given up everything that made him who he was just to make sure that the mission of keeping all humanity alive is a success. While emiya with try to keep casualties to a minimum alter will do anything and everything no matter the cost. Saving everyone by sacrificing everyone, in all essence what regular emiya would have become if he didn't retain his humanity.

5:25 Very true because I read those lol

And now,as of Lostbelt 7 we have Beni-Enma Alter and Kingproteia Alter

I am guessing either a gatcha disaster or using too much sq to revive in lb4

i m kind of new to fate and i realized Emiya didnt died when he was killed by Gaebolg in staynight so what happened?

Where does Lancelot berserker fall in this because he doesn’t have the alter title but he seems to like he should. Lancelot saber looks to be the normal or original version and the beakers form is different version of him. Also similar to artoria alter he has that dark purple armor with red veins. Lancelot berserker is an odd ball.

It is a good thing I already completed lostbelt 4

Rip Vilhan 🙏🙏😭😭

2:42 😂😂😂😂😂 Angry Mango??

Btw for Edgemiya he also killed Taiga and her child/children + he didn't even manage to kill Kiara, she killed herself in front of him to spite him.

Can you do grand servants

As someone who speaks or learned Irish/Gaelige (Gae-li-gah) I have to correct you that Cu Chulainn is pronounced (Coo Cull-in) no offence I know Gaelige pronunciations are difficult but I thought this might help 😅 Also is it pronounced Jean or je-an d'arc? Also you can pick whatever pronunciations you want I just wanted to drop a knowledge quartz on ya lol XD On a side note Pruning phenomenon is like DC Dark Multiverse too btw. Very similar except its thst if the universe is to volatile and dangerous it is snipped off into the leaf litter debris thst is the dark multiverse

Okay, let me finish LB4 real quick so i can finish the video 😂 good thing i make a lot of progress in the story

3:16. Excalibur being good or evil has nothing to do with being fey. After all, the fey are split into seelie and unseelie courts(dawn and dusk courts) dawn is considered "good", while dusk is "bad" the reality is that both are filled with self serving manipulative fey, and the courts just indicate a tendency towards the effects of their meddling in mortal affairs. A weapon of fey orgin could just as well be evil as good.

would ya care to try and do a video on all the grand servants we are aware of rn?

Silly Jalter and Salter fighting for best best alter clearly it is okita alter.

15:00 my wife sephiroth!!

Probably a dumb question but what's the difference between alters and alteregos?

Fun fact in the fate/world/fate/conquer Adolfo hitler is a counter guardian

Now do one on lilys

well looks like your gonna have to add nitocris alter

Hello I'm looking forward to banna oni

Ah i just found you researching Fate context, before i get into fate for real So uh, do you support an endo system like me? And uh, we see ourselves as an astolfo type. He/him, extremely girly, and very talkative

JEAN?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Edgemiya seems the kind of guy that will reset the universe

I understand and I know that the Altjuna we summoned is differ from the Lost Belt king.... but man, everytime I look at the Family Portrait CE, I just can't help but have a bit of distaste towards him.

8:10 that's not a tail, wink wink😋🍹

So Emiya alter is basically just future Shirou with the philosophy of his father Kiritsugu from Fate Zero?