Behringer 1273: Warm Audio Gets A Taste Of It's Own Medicine 

Hahahahahaha. You know that’s coming.

lol 😂

I have a BAE 312a and it’s so dang good. I want 8 of those.

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD i dig those too

Nice! A lot of people say the b a e sounds like vintage Neve and AMS Neve sounds all right but not close enough! Good times!

@@RealHomeRecording For me, i think i could make a decent tune on any version. Some of my favorite music was recorded with way less fancy stuff. My only concern, is how happy i will be with the money i spend. And the BAE looks gorgeous, feels like weapons grade build, and i never worry about the money i spent. Id use the Warm Audio one though. Id even use the Behringer one. Nobody should feel like "less than" for using any of these. As long as its reliable, the subtle shades of sonic differences mean practically nothing to me.

@@christopherJSmokeandMirrors I had the vintage 1073, and I got a RND 5012 off reverb for 1k. I tested the preamp section of the 1073 against the 5012. When you engage the silk on the 5012, it beat the 1073 on ALL test cases. Especially for the type of music I was making.... I was mainly recording vocals and some acoustic stuffs. I sold the 1073 and kept the 5012, which was a fraction of the cost (btw, I also have a shelford channel as my main vocal preamp).

The most expensive stuff in analog electronics (apart from transformers) is mechanical stuff - pots, jacks, switches... I hate how Behringer doesn't use sturdier pots, but all the rest is more or less the same stuff you'll find anywhere. Resistors with 1% tolerance are crazy cheap (I bought 24,000 resistors for $19), and that wasn't the case in the 60's/70's. ICs (operational amplifiers, logic ICs and similar analog stuff) is usually well below $1. Thermally steady capacitors (that were expensive 40 years ago) are a few cents each. So the complete electronics besides transformers, pots, switches etc. costs probably around $50 in Behringer and around $80 in a similar Neve product. Mechanical stuff is additional $200 for Behringer and $400 for Neve. The rest is R&D, testing, production, marketing etc.

why do you need the eqp1 when you have the 1273?

@@snubdawg1386 For tracking vocals I would prefer a EQP-1 with a LA2A compressor and only use the pre-amp stage and the transformers.

@@Studio22mix thx

Yep. Ears over eyes. Sometimes clients can complicate things though when they THINK they have to have “Brand X” vs some non-descript clone … but what are ya gonna ?! That’s how we end up with so much money shelled out for cosmetics! Thanks for watching, and the comment! Appreciate it. -Marty

Was this a review?

I thought they sounded the same too

Yes or yes

Awesome… definitely interested in your experiences! Thanks! Marty

Not rocket science. People who can’t quite afford Warm products buying A Warm knockoff aren’t buying Warm. If the knock off is good… when they CAN afford a Warm, they don’t. Used 1273’s are still going to make used 273eq’s be expensive. IF the Behringer is any good, which remains to be seen. This can all be for nothing if the Behringer isn’t 95% as good as the Warm. But seriously, your point is well-taken but the reality of capitalism shows us Warm is going to lose customers until it comes up with something between the 273eq and the 1273.

Yeah I’ve had one piece suck. Out of oh, probably 50 different things. So I don’t sweat it.

The hyperfuzz copy rules, their old combinator multiband comp changed my life when I mixed into it at a real studio when I was 17, my klark pultec -ish clone has crappy knobs and tone for days, I literally use it next to a real 60s Meq 5 and they're obviously 2 different but equally useable sounds.

I've had a behringer 610 interface for 13 years now...still going!

they have some ok products,and in rare cases it happens that thewy have even a good product once in while.. but in general most of the stuff has the vanilla but slightly damaged behringer sound, except the rare food units. Behringer cuts costs in aareas that are audible..even as friend of the chnieese gouvernment them cant do magic.. Thhe low low prices come with some low quality componernts and weak poersupplies ..missing shielding..do high dc offsets..bad switches..aso aso..

Right. And these 1273’s don’t have to sound like Neve’s either… to pull Warm customers to the dark side.

Thanks! I’m just opinionated. Ahahaha!

Thanks for watching and comment! I see the Warm 273eq advertised explicitly as having an “inductor-based EQ”… where are you getting the info that it doesn’t? Is it the “based” that is the cop out here, and it’s not an actual Inductor Eq? I’ll investigate myself, I don’t own one. Thanks again. -Marty

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I opened up the 273 EQ when I had it. The HPF is inductor based but the mid control is not. Plus the treble boost/cut sounds piercing when compared to a Heritage audio 1073 that I also own. EQ section just wasn't usable for me. I actually really like Warm Audio but they can't all be winners. TB-12 is my fav preamp they make. The U47f copy they make is also my fav for my voice.

@@vminator Awesome. Thanks for details. I need to get one in the studio to shoot out. Appreciate ya! Marty

Exactly. It’s a good thing for everybody. But maybe Warm. And I’m NOT happy I’m just hopeful Warm will respond in a savvy way and flip The script on Behringer … with consumers being the real winner.

And you are the customer they are after

So it sounds like you may have watched the video, but missed the entire point. I didn’t compare anything. I said Behringer looks to be releasing a piece of gear that is ripping off not a 1073, but Warm’s 273EQ. In the video I also clearly said the Warm is going to have superior parts. Right? Sooooooooooo… I then went on to declare my curiosity in how close the Behringer will Sound to the Warm, and made the not-very-earth-shattering observation that if the Behringer is any good, they’re going to take a bunch of money Warm would have made, from customers who don’t care about better components when the price is right. Still with me? That took 4 minutes. You’re welcome. What people have been missing is that in every video I’m talking about Warm, I’m suggesting they should get back to WHAT THEY STARTED AS… making quality components into identifiably unique looking pieces that innovated ideas, at a great price. That was awesome wasn’t it? When they did that? I’m not saying anything they make now doesn’t sound good. I’m saying if they stopped trying to LOOK like other gear (like our pals Behringer/KT) do…. And instead put the same exact circuit in a more economical, less playing “let’s pretend I’m the real thing because I look like it a little”…. They could sell the stuff for less money and make the same profit. And they would sell more. And they wouldn’t have Behringer knocking off their stuff in a way that they can’t defend. Customers who love Warm gear win. Warm wins. But sure, let’s talk about how giving a little straight talk means Im against them. Ha. Seriously, every single person who wants to brings up owning KT. Guess what? Head to head… buying the KT is a better investment. No seriously, black and white numbers… New Warm EQP $1000 Used Reverb Ave Sale $500 For a loss of 50% New KT EQP $300 Used Reverb average sale $200 Yup. Now, which one has better parts? Exactly! And THIS is why I’m out here getting people mad at me… because I’m trying to get Warm to build them the same quality for less…. Wouldn’t you WANT a Warm EQP, same circuit… less $? I say the same about KT but KT is of course ALWAYS going to do the copycat thing because that’s the nature of the business model… and why I’m so annoyed and embarrassed for Warm. They turned themselves into a business that is essentially, at its core just a different take on the Behringer business. Did I say anything that isn’t true? -Marty Ps. I think the KT are embarrassing to look at too.

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I appreciate your detailed and condescending reply. I guess you schooled me. I won't be back.

@@mickpowell8391 Welcome to the audio industry. You won't make it that far if you can't handle some different personalities!

⁠​⁠@@SHUTUPANDRECORDyou are incorrect here. 1) Warm started that way on a couple pieces of gear (over a decade ago)…for a second and then became hugely successful doing “inspired pieces.” Now you think it would do better going into original pieces? Thats like saying you won the Super Bowl but should return to your original squad when the team was formed many years ago. 2) your comparison with the KT is not correct. That % drop is because the KT is SO cheap and contains components that can’t sink any further to deteriorate the price. And the EQP is not $1000- it’s $799. That’s a 37% drop vs 33%. 3) don’t be embarrassed for Warm. It’s two pieces of gear that are 10 years late to the game and Behringer has done a number on their channel of dealers. Plus this is loaded with cheap components, not legit transformers or builds. Nobody is fooled, but sure some people that can’t afford mid-level will buy cheap trash. This essentially elevated Warm and its value. They will sell more now.

@@benthompkins lol. I’m guessing I’m a bit older than you. You sound a bit like you’re taking this stuff personally. We are talking about inanimate objects. Toys, tools… it’s really not something to be unfriendly about. (Not that I took offense, I appreciate you watching and commenting. I love to hear your take). Here’s my feelings on your take: 1. Warm started on 1 piece. Not a few, 1. It was 100% a unicorn. I watched Warm from the beginning. It was impressive and inspiring to see how it grew. 2. You can dance around and tell yourself whatever you’d like about which piece loses more value, but none of it matters because it’s straight math and it doesn’t lie. 3. Did you just call Behringer cheap trash? That’s fine. You call and think about it whatever you need to. Again, regardless of your opinion or mine, it’s again just math. One of the funniest things in conversations like this one is to hear people talk about how “cheap” the components in a B piece is, without acknowledging that they’re cheap because B owns the entire manufacturing process. They make all the parts. They don’t pay costs that Warm (or anybody else using 3rd party components does). It’s just math. Behringer and the 1273 is probably going to siphon a big chunk of sales away from Warm… but the awesome thing is: Warm is smart and I’ll bet you $ they adjust and make some great new product BECAUSE of the pressure from Behringer. I think Warm and Warm products are an awesome thing. I KNOW that Behringer is currently out doing Warm in the “finger-on-the-pulse-of-the-market” category. I’m excited because this is good for the affordable gear universe!

Do you feel that if Warm spent less trying to make it LOOK like a neve and just made a more simple box with the same guts, that would then sell for less because the cost of cosmetics went away…you’d be more in a Warm box? I just did a vid about this and people were sort of split on the issue. I’m like “warm is leaving a huge segment of the market out” by forcing them to choose between looks and bang-for-bucks??

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD True, but I can't lie i'm a sucker for hardware or even software that looks similar to the original gear it's trying to sound like.

@@casualintrovert207 hahah. I know. So does Warm! It’s a visual world! I’ve just been laughing (and crying about!) how much we all are currently paying for the looks side of things. And as a result, there are so many examples of companies focusing on inside instead of outside who struggle… because the marketing has people sold on the idea that if it LOOKS like it, it’s worth more. At the end of the day it’s us in the marketplace that can change it. Lol. But it’s a losing argument I’m sure. I do think it’s funny that Behringer is totally knocking off Warm… love em or hate em, you can’t deny they are smart. Evil geniuses? Possibly ha. M Thanks for watching g and commenting. Really appreciate your input and viewpoint! Marty

Thanks for watching and the comment! Much appreciated! -Marty

Lmao you just like attention for unfounded opinions

@@harpoleon6806 sure you're not projecting?

Thanks for watching and commenting. Not trying to be argumentative. Sincerely asking… What I don’t get, is WHY they would do that? What sense does that make for Behringer to not have them available? Plus, no idea where you’re at or who the retailer is, but I’m guessing stores that carry brands have to keep a minimum number in stock, and if it’s a large brand that would mean a ton of items.. so maybe to keep the amount of cash on their shelves as inventory they go with a minimum and go from there? I’ve also heard of online sellers being essentially lazy and never updating the in stock/out of stock numbers… But the real question is was one available for you to buy? If they have four available… then doesn’t that mean 4 people that aren’t RU-vid shills can get them? Maybe I’ll go see if I can order one, but I am not spending my cash on one as cool as they look. Not at the moment. Microphones! And then more microphones! Anyway, love to hear more of your thoughts on this, and I’ll def see what it looks like for me finding one locally. -Marty

@@harpoleon6806 I’m interested, elaborate. Please explain which part of my opinion is unfounded? Where have I gone wrong? Surely you didn’t just come here to do a drive by snark comment right? So let’s talk about it. -Marty

@SHUTUPANDRECORD not u hal

Yep. That’s why this is so cool and funny. …and why Warm is definitely going to lose market share. Thanks for watching and commenting! -Marty

I owned those GA Premier 573’s for a minute and they were kind of insane. Really thick and almost cartoonish in color. I just for some reason didn’t bond with them enough to not shift em when I had a chance. They’re so cheap I can always grab another. I’ve never used the n sonic stuff but have a buddy who loves his. I almost snagged a Midas 500 series yesterday but man, why not just sit and wait for a Venice to pop up for a few hundred more? 16-24 channels with eq … you KNOW I’m dying for another Midas!

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD Yeah, get that Midas. I'm gonna build 8 channels of the DIYRE Neve clones and send that into my perfectly cromulent Behringer interface via ADAT. That'll give me 16 simultaneous inputs and has enough I/O left over for outboard in a mix. I'm closing in a couple weeks on a house that happens to have a perfect small studio space in it, so I'm over here mentally spending money I don't actually have yet. You know how it is. It's gonna be a great time building it out.

@@MaggieKeizai pics or it didn’t happen! Thats awesome. Good luck. This is EXACTLY the stuff that inspires me (and I’m sure a ton of other people!).

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD Hell yeah, I'll be documenting it. I'll ping you when there's pix. Maybe you'll be able to catch me making dumb mistakes and set me straight.

They may be about to own them. Lol. Although Warm sounds pretty convinced they have something up their sleeve out in a month or two. We. Shall. See.

I certainly don’t hate warm. If I did I wouldn’t be working so hard to convince them to abandon the Behringer/Klark Teknik model of making people pay for cosmetics instead of delivering the same circuits in unique to Warm designs like the original days of the company. Then again, when you talk about the 8000 as an example… many artists will want the one that LOOKs like the real thing vs. the same mic in a different housing. No argument. And why Warm switched their business model I’m sure.

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD it's a business. Part of the marketing is getting the "look" of the product right so it appeals to more people. TBH using the same example, wa8000, it doesn't look that much like the original. The heat sync is not the same and it's less sleek. But the top end is smooth and crystal clear as you'd expect. The reason I modded it is because the low end could have been more pronounced and I could have eq'd it in but I'd rather capture it coming in. Now that I have the wa1b I probably didn't "need" to mod the mic. From what I see those people hand wire their gear and use good components where it's critical and could charge more for their gear but don't so they can keep it affordable and sell more. If I get One of their items and I feel something is lacking, I'd rather spend a few hundred dollars to have it modded to 95% of what the original does then spend three times more for the original. Behringer is not bad either but they didn't go for "affordable" in the past, they went for the "cheap" market. And even if they make better gear they'll need to spend big money on marketing to escape that reputation going forward.

@@apextraxx2903 yep yep and yep! The only thing I’d add is that one person’s cheap is another’s affordable. People don’t get that when I say guys who CAN afford to have the real stuff do, and don’t mess with Warm “recreations” it’s not me saying Warm isn’t capable of achieving results… it’s for the same reason we talked about above. It’s a business, and their clients generally DO know the difference and are going to consider the Warm piece “cheap” and not appreciate it’s “affordable”! Thanks for the view and the insightful comment! -Marty

Cl1b insane wa251 my vocals beast!

@@DeRaNgEdOfficial I do really want to try the Warm 251! I was just looking for deals this morning on Reverb.

You just said everything I tried to say better than I did, in less time! Bravo! Ha is for the view and comment! -Marty

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD salute… I’m shocked. Thanks for covering this because I would have never known. I know Behringer dropped the 33609 and that was wild but THIS is crazy especially if it’s on par with Warm, Bae, Heritage and the other clones

Thanks for the view and the comment… I think most people watching are aware of the marketplace, who makes what etc… but Behringer is definitely NOT attempting to compete against the Neve product. They don’t have to. They’re planning to pick off customers who want the Warm but find it out of their budgets. I have NO problem with Behringer knocking off the Warm that was attempting to compete with the Neve. This is the world. It’s all Good. I stand by it though, Behringer just needs to be a more affordable option than the 273EQ. Zero. ZERO purchasers are going to be deciding between the Neve and the 1273! Thanks again for watching and commenting. Really appreciated. Convo and discussion about the world of affordable quality gear is the goal! You’ve helped in that goal. -Marty

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD They are targeting customers that want the Neve, or the Warm, or the Stam, or the BAE or the Heritage Audio, but can't afford either of them. But I agree, it won't affect Neve negatively. I'm not sure it will affect the other companies either, to any significant extent, but maybe. The Behringer 1273 will mostly be bought by the home studio people, but I doubt any professional studio will get them.

Thanks for contributing. Theres certainly corners getting cut and compromises being made.. they’ll have to show up somewhere!

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I think internal power supplies are not necessarily a major cost-savings, it's more an issue of the electronic engineering design philosophy. There's high spec medical grade linear power supply wall-warts available from China for cheap -- that's what Heritage and Daking are using. The original orange version of the Warm Audio TB12 used to have external power supplies, then they switched to internal for customer convenience because customers actually complained about the wall-warts. At least that's what WARM told me when I asked about it.

@@zyxyuv1650 yeah I’ve always chuckled at people complaining about wall warts… they make so much sense in a lot of cases. I get it though, it’s hard to organize a dozen wall warts in a rock. But I mean, better performance? I’ll take it. Probably one of those complaints that arise from old school guys who never had to deal with wall warts when pro-sumer gear wasn’t a thing… and then new generation who’ve conflated wall warts with cheap/bad because of the disdain the old guys have for them?? I just find the whole topic of pro audio myth and practices fascinating. Thanks again for truly useful input here! Marty

Seem to. Dont though. In every video I make sure to stress the opposite. What I DO, is think Warm is blowing it. Forcing people to pay for cosmetics worked to a great degree for them… but it ultimately is going to be why Behringer eats a ton of their market share shortly. I’m really interested in the history of gear… I’ve been alive and buying gear since wayyyyy before the boom of affordable truly great gear happened. I’ve seen companies come and go and boom and explode and disappear. Warm should be offering THE SAME circuits in boxes that are simple, economical and identifiable. (Please see their ORIGINAL business model). Those orange pieces stood out, you instantly understood which company made it, and that it was DIFFERENT, high quality and freshly thought… and in your budget! Do they do that now? Does pointing that out make me a hater? If they wake up and get back to their roots, doesn’t everybody benefit from that? Same Warm circuits at a lower price point? If that’s hating then yup. But it’s not. I’m happy to see a list of, and would be THRILLED to talk to guys making “billboard 100 number 1’s” with Warm. Awesome. Do you remember the last thing I said in this video? Because one of the main points in any video I make is that GEAR doesn’t matter. You do. I love budget gear. You seem to have noticed the KT stuff, but somehow not put that together ! lol. Settle down and really listen to what I’m saying. Behringer is coming after Warm… Warm is going to either keep swimming around in this middle area trying to get people to pay extra for cosmetics, and losing sales to Behringer… or they’re going to realize the segment of the market begging them to make the same circuits without the added costs of cheeseball copy cat cosmetics. I really appreciate you commenting. I really do want to try to compile a list of people making records that could use any mic preamp/microphone/compressor… but choose Warm gear instead! That’s awesome if they do. I’d like to know which and who. Plenty of people make cool records with Warm gear. I know lots of them. I’ve owned Warm gear myself. I’ll probably own it in the future. Is that clear enough for you?! -Marty

@@SHUTUPANDRECORDit’s not clear what you are arguing and much of this is false. Look at the WA transformers compared to the Midas ones in this. Give me a break man…

I luv thiss fer u.

All kidding aside, I’m not sure if you watched the video or just picked up on the typo but I sincerely appreciate the comment! Keep ‘em honest! Me included! Spelling and punctuation are critical to communication, keep doing your thing ! Cheers! -Marty

Right. But to be fair, we’re talking two different things here… components are not build quality. You can have two different people build two different (but identical) CAPI kits and end up with two different levels of build quality. In 32 years of owning recording gear I’ve had one Behringer piece ACTUALLY be bad like you read people talking about on the internet. Out of a huge number of pieces. Like probably 50 different pieces of cheapo Behringer stuff. So my real, actual, indisputable personal experience is that Behringer breaks less than the like let’s see… Tascam, Roland, Sony, AKG, API, Fredenstein, Akai… gear that I’ve owned. I never thought of it like that until now. But that’s true. The real point though, and the reason I think Warm is def going to have to respond to this Behringer piece… is that if Warm’s bread and butter customer base going to be able to buy 4-6 channels of a B piece that is 93% as good as the WA-273EQ.. they’re going to. My advice (and hope) is that Warm would recognize the copy cat cosmetics era is over now that Behringer has entered the conversation like this. (I think it was genius to rip the 273 rather than anything else). Warm should go back to building unique looking gear that is way more cost effective to their bottom line… allowing them to allow these wayyyyy better components to be the show and not trying to make prop pieces for social media (oh and people who are tying to find great bang for the buck gear!). Warm gear will retain a better resale value (currently wayyyy behind for instance the Klark Teknik stuff in that department!). Gotta make themselves ACTUAL sleeper/bang for the buck when up against the low end attacks from the gigantic, very profitable Behringer monster. Thanks for watching and commenting! -Marty

If you want to know if equipment is really so much better then you need to check the repair guys. Most components and most schematics are the same. The live guys were sure that the Midas digital mixer were way better than the Behringer but it turned out that only the casing and the knobs were different, same boards, same parts 😂

Wouldnt say that. Had the Warm Neve Pre and sold it due to bad manufacturing. Even the red button had some scratches on it from the manufacturing (it was a new one from a retailer)

@@hinky7729 Yeah. It happens to everybody. I have a Lindell 510 power supply with the logo on UPSIDE DOWN.

About what? I couldn’t be happier! What an incredible era?! Do you watch the videos or just type comments?! Haahahahahah!

Hi. Thanks for commenting! Sorry to disappoint you that this wasn’t a comparison or review. There are a bunch of them online from people paid to do them for you. As far as prejudiced, gotta laugh a touch in that one. But appreciate your viewpoint nonetheless. There was no opinion given at all on the merits of the Behringer though. In fact, I specifically mentioned the need to wait and see how the Behringer held up against the Warm piece it’s copying. Would totally appreciate your opinion on if you think this Behringer device has potential to peel away Warm customers? Thanks! -Marty

Written on an smartphone made in china 😂

@@ToniJXN Ok Gangster.

Love hear what you’re talking about?

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD I just simply don't agree with professionals not using Warm. It leaves the impression that you have to have an expensive piece of gear to get a good sound, which I don't think is true. If I was misinterpreting that part, my apologies but I know a few professionals who use whatever they see fit. It isn't a Neve, it's a Warm. It has its own sound just like anything else, I do agree that the marketing behind it is what people go for and that could be a whole discussion in itself, but I don't agree that any "real professional engineer" wouldn't use Warm or Behringer even... if it ain't broke... right? If you can afford something better by all means but a "professional" gets it done no matter the tools. That should be taught over anything else. Especially to someone who might just be stumbling upon the video.

@@ocularrecords thanks for the clarification!! Happily, I see we do agree on a lot of things. We actually agree that people use the Warm to make records all the time. (Because like I said at the end… it’s not the tool, it’s the person using it that really matters in all this. ) I made a distinction, or attempted to… that the engineers who wouldn’t use the Behringer, also wouldn’t use Warm. NOT that you couldn’t use either to make cool records! I WANT people to use affordable gear, I HATE that people get beaten over the head on RU-vid and Gearspace, Reddit, etc… with gear brand bashing…. In this video, I’m just saying my experience. Guys who don’t have to use budget brands, don’t. The rest of us? The Warm d19 microphone will be a great example of this idea…. We’re starting to see and more importantly HEAR examples and comparisons now… like all the Warm products, the new mic is way in the ballpark sound wise. (Which is cool)! But is it going to make the guys who own (working!) d19’s sell them and only use the Warm? Did they with the 87’s? Or the 47’s? Or the 414’s? Or the 4 channel API-esque preamps?, or (now to this video’s topic) the 73 preamps? This is not to say many many many many many many people working today aren’t using them. I am definitely saying Warm is a stop on the way in most peoples gear journey. Have you ever been to Epcot center? When I was a kid I went, it was amazing and fun and worth doing… but did it cure my desire to ACTUALLY visit the real places that inspired the Epcot attractions? On another point, I totally agree when you said “It isn’t a Neve, it’s a Warm. It has its own sound just like anything else”. Which is why I’m so hard on them… I think it’s cynical and shameless marketing that convinced Warm to abandon having a unique looking product… which said “we are different and that’s why you should give us a listen!” They went 180 degrees the other way and say “we are the same… just LOOK at our products”. I stress look of course because I think the effort and money spent to LOOK like other gear is what keeps them from becoming truly accepted as a real alternative, as something more than a slightly different angle than the Behringer model. Warm made their name by standing out, unique looks… unique features. Now, and make no mistake it’s definitely a sign of having “made it” to some degree… Warm looks just like the Behringer… and the “affordable” “entry-level” gear buying customer base they helped develop and brainwash into buying gear with their eyes… is going to to buy gear with their eyes… that is affordable in their budget. I think it’s great. Can you imagine if Warm woke up and went back to its roots? Stopped worrying about making stuff that looks like other stuff and made (and then were able to sell) the same circuits for a big chunk less because the design focus was on offering the BEST bang for the buck?! (Which if you’re keeping score means NOT adding the costs of bespoke knock off knobs and buttons to the cost of the gear). Anyway, I really appreciate you watching and offering a thoughtful commentary! I just want to get people thinking about gear in different ways than we have been the past decade or so! Let the era of the market demanding the good components without the cheeseball costume look … begin! -Marty

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD This is the best response I could've hoped for. I agree 1000% Thank you for clearing that Up Marty. Just subscribed.

@@SHUTUPANDRECORD There are so many great points in this reply it should be a video all in itself. Thank you again.

It being a commentary, other than sign language or flash cards… do you have a suggestion on a solution to your complaint? Lol! Also, did you have any opinion on the topic discussed. All kidding aside, I’d love to hear what you think of the points made with all the talking? Marty

Can we quote you on that? No thoughts on if this will put pressure on Warm if the Behringer is good?