Being Aware of Being Aware in the Midst of Experience 

Yes thought may be made out of awareness, but misidentifying with thought as who we ARE is the very definition of unconsciousness which is the entire basis for teachings from Eckhart Tolle, A Course in Miracles, & the biggest reason to take up a dedicated meditation practice since peace is our very nature, all 3 teachings/practice are for the same primary goal: consistent peace of mind. So it's not that either the lady or Rupert are "wrong". I sense rather that they're both just correctly reporting from their direct experiences. She's in the middle of undoing the painful ego thought system (labeling everything) of separation, & Rupert I sense might not have adopted it so much when he was younger at least to the point where suffering from identifying with thibking was a painful enough problem where it had to be addressed (I could be wrong don't know enough about his past. I'm happy to be proven wrong. Just can't think of any other viable reason. Other explanations?). That's likely why he senses she's unhappy with his answer. It took me years to see this about Rupert's teaching, if my observation is accurate. I think it's more about his past experiences. t's true yes there's nothing "wrong" with thinking. Although in my experience at least, it can be inaccurate for someone who is at the stage where they're suffering a lot BECAUSE of IDENTIFYING with thoughts made out of awareness all day long & they are now actually wanting the Peace of God(Love) instead. This is the very definition of the sleeping mind according to Echart/ACIM and is in fact basically a total mental/spiritual coma in my direct experience. But yes once enough sanity/peace is restored deep deep into mind training (guessing probably necessary for the large majority of the population were they to suddenly all want peace, & why Power of Now for example is so popular/helpful) undoing the completely insane ego thought system to at least where someone is back into like 90-100% intuitive mind (ACIM calls this thinking with our right mind, which means of course we also have a wrong mind), so yes then AT THAT POINT nothing wrong with thinking as much as we feel like, it's safe then we're not reacting to our thoughts by then, & the purity/quality/Holiness of thinking goes way up into only Loving thoughts. 💚Some people apparently don't need Eckharts teaching or ACIM to find true consistent peace & can just use say Ruperts' for example, so all true Spiritual teachings like these are Blessings for whoever makes an effort to discern them. It's all truly helpful. Gratitude 💚🕊🦢🐶🐥🐳🎈🌈

​Brother can you eloborate in simpler.term?@@michaelphillips5302

This is not mindfulness but rather choices awareness.

That's really helpful!

Beautiful. ..helped me realize my own predicament intuitively, thank you.

I can totally relate to this as well... this helped me so much. Take care!

Same here. Did that distinction collapse now or still fluctuating ?

@@abhijithnandigama2562 still fluctuating, which I think is natural given what the act of focusing is. To focus is to concentrate on one thing at a time.

Hey! Curious, how should we react to this?

Exactly. Attention rises from Awareness (source) to the object (say thought). It can either be on the object or back home. How can it co exist at both places? I understand her question so well. Like if I pay attention to the thought, it would disappear. Thought and awareness does not seem to co exist. But a sensation and awareness does. I can be totally aware and feel the sensations. But with thought it's not possible. Only after thought has passed.

Thanks for writing. You have a nice way with words.

It’s so “Unchallenging” to the mind that makes it so challenging 😆😆😆

I am going to send a pic of what you just wrote to my friend bc I just got off the phone sharing a very similar perspective. . But as far as Being aware of being aware is challenging ....I would add it is if you say it is.

Speaking from experience and what I have understood from other teachers is that we abide in the space of awareness and the more we do this the less important thought becomes.

there is no trick needed for an "I" to stay in that space, because you ARE that space in which the "I" appears. It is rather a matter of taking a good look and coming to see that a busy workweek is just an apparent appearance in that which you already are, as what you are, which is all awareness.

Nnn

​@@michaclaessen1265 yes micha truly, a good look ,may be over and over until you really see it, longchenpa seems to be humours when he uttered the following words, "If something is not so trying will not make it so while if it is so there is no need to make it so though effort and achievement pretain to a relative perspective from the ultimate perspective of mind itself nothing whatsoever need be done"

Hari OM ॐ ॐ ❤

True but that's true for virtually everybody in attendance at the retreat who might just hopefully come to realize the fallacy of that.

How does one identify the sound of particular beings as God but not others? Isn't this just mind identification?

Literally everything is God

I knew god was a woman 😆

@@jgarciajr82 careful now, Jesus only had old testament language to explain what he'd found and ultimately it was his proclamation that he was God's son that got him killed. If you're going to say you're the bosses son you must also allow this for everyone else lol, or even better know that you are that but keep it to yourself.

@@TaxemicFanatic So serious. I was joking. Egos don't see jokes do they? You didn't see your like from me? 😆. Have fun with life this is god speaking wisdom.

🤣 ‘ you’re Beautiful

Situations don't matter. Life is just a dream. 😂 😍 ❤️

It is the ego that plays the role of the victim of a life situation.

@@TaxemicFanatic exactly

What can you say about the nature of the one who is aware?

huh, somehow I was so in my head that I literally was zoned out alar 9:43 and misses what he said make the effort until it's no longer an effort sounds good

The screen vs movie analogy is better because it can teach us that the screen (awareness) can still exist without the movie (objects). Many Vedanta teachers use this analogy too. With the projector light vs movie analogy, when light is off, the movie is off too!

„The highest meditation“ from rupert spira explains this topic she is asking also very well. Maybe this helps

„The three stages of understanding „ is one you might be looking for and also „are there stages“ have fun🤗

because its the most beautiful thing to experience

Cause that's your true nature

That's one way that people pose the question but the "problem" is really more about identity. Most people's seat of identity is in their thoughts and bodily sensations. They think that who and what they are is their thoughts and body (or as I say, bodily sensations, since the evidence of a body equates to sensations and perceptions of/from a body). After some investigation some people realize that since thoughts, ideas, beliefs, wordviews, sights, sounds, feelings, body shape, size, appearance, etc. are always changing - but still there is a Self that has been an unchanging witness to all of these changes, that it has been a mistake to think of the seat of identity as lying within those ephemeral things especially since there has been something more concrete underneath. That "more concrete" thing is the unchanging awareness itself. The goal of this practice is to readjust the seat of one's identity from the thoughts and bodily sensations (sometimes also encapsulated by the term body-mind) to the awareness itself. That's why she is asking about that. She means to "distill" the awareness from the objects within it. It is also impossible, since that Awareness is only the subject and cannot be made an object no matter what the practice. But this line of questioning is a natural result in the transition of identity from the former to the latter.

@@oneofthepeoplehere goode one

My humble understanding of late, there is no need to be aware of awareness. What ever is happening you do not have control of. It is simply arising in awareness. Whether that is being lost in thought and the suffering that can bring or being aware of being lost in thought. There are not two. The whole point of non-duality. Just be lost in thought and embody the feeling it invokes. You are being lived by awareness, not the other way around.

@the12eternals good point!