Michael Rauch and if Regina wasn’t around there’s a chance Snow wouldn’t be alive either. Even if Cora set off the horse, Regina and Snow’s lives are so intertwined I think the absence of one would certainly impact the other. Not to mention that i don’t think keeping Zelena would’ve stopped Cora from going after power.
When Emma says to Regina "i'm guessing this is where your help ends" after they say Zelena is going back to kill Snow's mother. Doesn't she know Regina doesn't want to kill Snow anymore? Though she may not know about the heart to heart they had when she was gone, Regina did put the protection spell around Snow's home to keep her and her baby safe.
This part is believable. Regina's redemption apparently mostly happened off-screen in the EF, so Emma wasn't there to see it. Her memories of Regina are still mostly bad, and Regina has a track record of treacherous, evil behavior. What was unbelievable was how fast Emma warmed to Regina afterward, it should have taken much longer.
This scene is about finding out Zelena's plan but it also shows what a good mother Regina is. She is willing to give up a chance of getting the ultimate revenge on Snow because doing that will cause Henry to not exist anymore. A mother who chooses their child like that deserves a lot more than "I'm guessing this is where your help ends".
"Think it through Miss Swan. That means you'll have never been born." *Emma's face is hopeful: Regina cares about me* "And neither will Henry." *Emma's face is sad: Regina cares about Henry, not me*
Krisstina Wilson Ur just dumb. Emma was sad because that meant she would never give birth to Henry if Zelena killed Snow White’s mom, which means Snow White, Emma and Henry will never have existed in the first place. Regina did care about Emma because she’s her step grandmother
@@elisekelley2592 I don't like being called names but you're right that was a little dumb. I was just making a joke about how Emma and Regina's friendship was building.
@@elisekelley2592 Yep. He's my beautiful turkish, all-white, one blue one yellow eyed cat. He actually died a few years back but I keep him around(RU-vid picture, photo in my wallet, keychain on my purse, etc...) so he knows that I love him.
my guess is that it was the spells that people had tried to make in order to accomplish time travel. Inventing a spell to accomplish something that had never been done would take a lot of trial and error.
Charming, don't get so high and mighty. I doubt it's 'your' baby in particular. Remember, she did try and get Aurora and Phillip's baby too. I'm sure any baby would do. you just happen to be the only ones pregnant that she can target.
Somehow I doubt Snow is the only pregnant woman in Storybrooke, now that the first Curse is broken and time is moving. But taking Snow's baby is a way to strike at the royal family, and esp. Regina.
Snow: Cora didn't want to give up Zelena, she was forced to. Me: Um... no she wasn't. Cora could've chosen to keep Zelena, be a single mother, and raise her. She had a job at the mill, she just wanted a life where she didn't do any work. She chose power over Zelena, if anything Zelena should be angry with Cora and not Regina! I mean, I know she's jeleas (which is understandable, from her pov cora chose regina over her. That's gotta sting) but Regina didn't have a sunshine-and-rainbows childhood etheir.
exactly, and if she has abandoned zelena , it was for revenge of the family of snow, and it's true that regina didn't have a life happy with cora as mother
True, but would Cora been able to take care of Zelena? Because it also makes me wonder if Cora did care about Zelena wouldn't she have taken her back with her when Regina and Zelena were kids? That could've saved a lot of trouble if Cora decided to raised Zelena and Regina together when they found out they were sisters as kids.
2:46 Something about the way Hook comments on time travel makes me think of him and Emma later when they do go time travelling, and he understands the danger of upsetting the continuum right off the top. That plus the odd way he speaks here makes me wonder if Hook knows more than he's saying about time travel. Maybe he actually knows it can be done somehow, and knows the risks...
I wouldn't be surprised if he had tried to find the spell when he was in never land bidding his time to get revenge on rumpled, to either save milah or kill rumple while he still was a man
Really? Because Cora wanted to pretend her baby was Leopold and still marry him using deception and lying. Cora was just about Cora and cared nothing for Leopold or her child. Seems to me Cora is the problem all the time.
Nanci Fenstermaker agreed, she didn't really want the child or care for it, since she let it go for her own best chance, instead of the child's. Also, doesn't this happen after Cora took her heart out? When she meets Rumple she wants to be royalty then she fell in love with him when he was teaching her. So to prevent love from getting in her way she took her heart out. So I guess these heartless actions of abandoning her child, and doing anything she can to be a queen, make sense considering.
CulbRus This was before she met Rumple. It's also why she had no problem going along with Rumple's deal. He wanted her first born, but she'd already had and given up Zelena.
So you don't think she should have told Leopold that Cora was pregnant with some other man's child? Eva did the right thing, if not quiet for the right reason.
yes Charming. "Oh, you haven't given birth yet! We still have PLENTY of time to figure this out and defeat the witch!" DOES HE NOT REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST TIME HE SAID THAT?!?! *hint, he and everyone he knew was cursed for 28 years and his child grew up alone
bg3929Z Big difference- Zelena needs the baby born to cast the time spell. Regina didn’t need Emma to be born to cast the Dark Curse or kill baby Emma.
I feel incredibly bad for Zelena. If I was on that show somehow, I would have helped her with her time travel plan, but in a way to ensure her sister and Snow still existed: -To convince her, I would use the argument that her power is fueled by envy (or ambition as she calls it). And then I would ask her if it wouldn't be more satisfying to have her sister alive and compete with her in front of Cora, always proving to be better than Regina in everything, instead of merely erasing her existance, so that she could have a mother all for herself, sure, but that would only make her a princess without teaching her about the wonders of the magic, when she could complement her power with the teachings of both Cora and Rumple, not to mention that she would probably have to hide her magic away in order not to be hated by the common people; -I would then advice her to appear a few hours before Cora arrives on the site where she was going to abandon baby Zelena, and that she should teach her mother not only the gift of magic, but also show her that the baby herself has said gift, in order to convince her that abandoning her daughter would not be such a good idea, because with their powers combined, they could accomplish great things together once the baby grew up. However, I would advice her not to teach Cora teleportation, how to rip out a heart and how to turn things into gold, because these were the things that made her need Rumple, and the lack of them was what made her meet Henry Senior. Not to mention that, reaping out her heart sooner just to ensure that she wouldn't go soft on Zelena could affect somehow her time with Rumple. However, should the fact that her baby isn't of royal blood cause problems when the time comes for Henry Senior's father forces her to choose between Rumple and the kingdom, maybe it would be a good idea to teach Cora things like memory altering or tell her that when she finds out a way to reap out hearts, she should consider that she could use them to control other people.
Yeah my feeling bad for her ended when she contributed to killing bae and controlled rumple. Not to mention her later Rape of robin. Also said time travel spell would still require baby Neal (well actually a baby period) so sorry no go and theres no guarentee the baby wouldn't be in danger with a spell like that
@@madeleine5561 this comment describes a life of manipulation for Zelena. I don't think I was very merciful. She still gets what she wants... but at the price of even worse memories. Also, Neal got out ok in the episode. And I did write this before seeing the rape scene.
is it just me still or am i the only1 still tryna figure out what happened2 zelena's dad, johnathan?!?! did cora kill him as regina got better after zelena healed her, ofc henrysnr didnt know abt zelena. so what happened2 johnathan?!?!?! bc he too, is now an untold story. cora mayhv moved on n/dUW. bc 1babydaddy has too (henrysnr, thnx2 regina) makes me wonder,where's coras first?! it was never said. not2mention, i think zelena got her magic from him. bc cora didnt learn magic until she met rumple after zelena was &b4 regina was born. wudnt b surprised if zelena did, bc that meant babyrobin will have it too in future seasons. Omfg! :D
I still think Cora had nastier goals in mind than communication. I think or suspect that she was after either Snow or Snow's baby, so she can live again. I don't think it would bother her a bit to dispossess Snow and take her body.
Why bother? Cora is intensely practical. She doesn't care about Regina, and she doesn't care about what others think of her. Even if she reveals Ava's past action...when you get right down to it, it's not that big a deal. So Ava was a spoiled brat when she was younger. So what? Cora didn't do the evil she did because of Ava, she did it because she was hungry for power and status and control. Cora was already the way she was before she and Ava ever crossed paths. So yeah, I still think Cora had in mind something like stealing Snow's body, or maybe her baby's.
@@shermanlee4037 One of the reasons Cora was so obsessed with gaining power is so that one day she'd finally be able to make Princess Eva feel just as insignificant and powerless as she had made Cora felt. Also, while for all of Regina's life Cora never really cared about her, now that she has her heart back in the land of the dead, she really does care about Regina and Zelena
@@samcochran8203 Princes Eva was an excuse, mostly. Cora was already hungry for power and position before she ever met Leopold or Cora, Eva's actions (which were mostly justified, after all) simply gave her one more excuse. Remember, the only reason she slept with Zelena's father was because he lied about being a prince, if she'd known he was a commoner she wouldn't have bothered with him. Cora was cold and calculating even when she still had her heart,, for that matter. That's part of what makes her season five redemption arc seem so hard to believe.
@@shermanlee4037 You're right for most of that, Eva was an excuse, but I'd say that Eva's actions were more or less of the time when we see her as a young girl, motivated by bad blood and arrogance, selfishness and just plain bratiness. When she learned about Cora being pregnant, she decided she was gonna do the right thing by telling him about Cora's deception, but in a totally bitch way by hiding some of the truth about why she was being forced, because she was afraid of what Leopold would say.
In the begging she was reserve about magic even feared it, but know she is playing "where is the hook" with it. And Giggling like a kid with a secret. This is not the Emma Swan we know of now. What do you think?
Not really. Up until this point (season 3), as far as Regina knows nobody has time traveled. Once Zelena showed it could be done, it's no contradiction to see it down in S7. Of course, there were lots of _other_ contradictions in S7 that really were contradictions...
Also, time probably moves differently between realms. Like The Land of Untold stories, time doesn't move so the people of that land don't reach the end of their stories. The Snow Queen was able to go to The Land without Magic to wait for Emma.
Sam Yap if someone were to figure out time travel in the future then it could exist at any point in time even if it technically remains undiscovered to the people in this time
Emma was so cute when she was successful in using her magic😁just like a little girl😍😍😍I'm glad Snow finally found out about her bitch mother's true nature!
Zelena is more Cora than Regina is. Cora let her jealousy of Ava spiral completely, to the point where Cora killed Ava so Regina would get to the throne. Zelena and Regina have the same compulsion, Regina's hatred of Snow and Zelena's jealousy of Regina are all from Cora's need to be better than a Millers Daughter. But Zelena's is fuelled by being abandoned by those she cared about, she could've gone either way when she found out about Regina. But much like her mother she decided to latch onto her jealousy.
Hannah Gleason - Same reason Regina lets power hunger corrupt her. They both take very much after Cora, just in slightly different ways. They both have their excuses, but at heart that's what it boils down to.
I think she's a good role model for when snow is younger because she probably regrets doing bad things when she was younger and wants her daughter to be better than her
I don't hate a lot of characters in OUAT but my top three characters that I hate are: Ava, Black fairy and Belle in the Hades part of season five episode 16 to be precise.
Drakness can't not go back it more dangeres for all darkness can not come back in time i never seen my pearts again or desupring i can be to it worris me most
