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Ben Shapiro DESTROYS "House Of The Dragon" (Season 2) 

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Ben sets flame to House of the Dragon Season 2 in this fiery review. So, what exactly did Ben not like about the new season? Watch to find out.
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@t-roy13
@t-roy13 25 дней назад
“Why does everyone act like idiots?” It’s a common problem in several shows and movies. Writers and directors are not as smart as they think they are.
@randomdude189
@randomdude189 25 дней назад
Try watching new girl. The characters literally let things go wrong just so they have something to react and respond to. No one acts like that in real life unless they are imitating the show which people have begun basing their lives off shows and characters.
@zzhanz6912
@zzhanz6912 25 дней назад
It the arrogance and incompetence of the writers in full display.
@Oblivionsurveyor
@Oblivionsurveyor 25 дней назад
@@zzhanz6912 No, its more than that. They canceled a FANTASTIC show called "Raised by wolves" to produce The House of shit. Anything good they cancel for some reason. Trying to manipulate us through narratives.
@alientube1984
@alientube1984 25 дней назад
Trying to be woke and casting all possible race and genders will eventually influence the quality of performance!
@aligin
@aligin 25 дней назад
Every work of literature turns to shit when it turns its back on literature to embrace an agenda, any agenda. That's why the communists always made shit films and rage cultural revolution. I guess we're just following the steps.
@nikopawlowic6557
@nikopawlowic6557 25 дней назад
I didn't think it was possible to turn an entire season of a show leaving your audience blue balled, but thanks HoTD and HBO for proving me wrong.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
It ain't all their fault. Warner shorted them 50m & 2 episodes (not 100% on the episodes, but def the money.) That's when the battle was going to be.
@quack7426
@quack7426 24 дня назад
To be fair, Game of Thrones basically did the same thing and then delivered an absolutely atrocious final season that completely ruined or flat-out ignored just about every major plot line that was set up throughout the show.
@anna-tn8mg
@anna-tn8mg 24 дня назад
Well, there is always Columbo
@rileygarraway87
@rileygarraway87 23 дня назад
Don't know what you are talking about it was great season they connected Daemon Targaryens visions to Brendon Rivers witch will be in the hedge knight series that is a great way to move forward
@rileygarraway87
@rileygarraway87 23 дня назад
​@@quack7426I do not know why people are mad at finalie of season 2 because it's great to connect Daemon to Brendon Rivers with his visions
@das-9962
@das-9962 25 дней назад
They took the most interesting character and made him do Luigi’s Mansion for 6 episodes
@jhzwwe123
@jhzwwe123 25 дней назад
He wasn't ever interesting, yet somehow they made him even more boring 💀
@user-np4gr2je2q
@user-np4gr2je2q 24 дня назад
​@@jhzwwe123Daemon was the most interesting character even in s1 they put him in a haunted house for 6 episodes that really killed the season for me
@jerryvalentino1065
@jerryvalentino1065 23 дня назад
This right here is it lol, everytime they went to his storyline this season I was so pissed off and bored
@rileygarraway87
@rileygarraway87 23 дня назад
​@@jhzwwe123not true they made his story more interesting 🤔 if you don't know they are making a series about Aegon the forth and Dunkin the hedge knight and at ending in last vision it shows that Daemons vision is connected to Brendon Rivers and Daenerys Targaryen because of that I believe that when daemon supposedly disappears in last season for house of the dragon he will be the first three eyed raven that will eventually pass on what he learned to Brendon Rivers and then because of that it will make more sense for why Brendon Rivers saw visions also
@grichkatayou7558
@grichkatayou7558 23 дня назад
@@rileygarraway87 Daemon the Targaryen fanatic and adept will pass something to a bastard... ok smh these writers really writing this nonsense that doesnt track for people like you... smh even GRRM gave up and he is the originator of that whole universe...
@jessicam725
@jessicam725 25 дней назад
My main problem with HOTD is that they are trying to give urgency to Rhaenyra taking the throne based on the Song of Ice and Fire prophecy. None of this really mattered as how it played out in GoT.
@Adam-TheLiftedKing
@Adam-TheLiftedKing 25 дней назад
another review by someone who id wager was fairly progressive, did say something i found funny. "They are saying winter is coming as if winter is coming today, when winter isnt coming for a long time from now, Like you know how the world is gonna end due to the climate, but its not gonna end today? This show is treating winter like its a today problem?"
@Downtimelegion
@Downtimelegion 24 дня назад
​@@Adam-TheLiftedKing they throw out famous quotes just for the "nostalgia and cool"... "winter is coming" "winter is coming"... like ffs find something new to say ... this was a GoT and Ned's quote ...
@titosdorito9628
@titosdorito9628 22 дня назад
I believe the writers are leaning more into the books rather than the ending of GOT beCause why would they include Daemons final vision, bloodraven, dragons can’t cross the wall, and greenmen?
@fullair24
@fullair24 21 день назад
​@Downtimelegion nah bro they are the stark words , they are known for saying that tbf
@meganjk
@meganjk 21 день назад
They're going off the books, not the show. In HoTD we don't know what happens yet. (And may never as we wait for WoW😅)
@atherali3652
@atherali3652 25 дней назад
They ruined this season by straying from the original source material, focusing instead on Rhaenyra and Alicent’s friendship. They attempted to portray Rhaenyra as a good leader and person, which was a recipe for disaster. In the books, they are bitter enemies, and Rhaenyra is depicted as a terrible person. This story is about privileged kids who lack empathy for their citizens and are fighting for the throne at any cost.
@imadrzek8901
@imadrzek8901 22 дня назад
They ran out of money as the big dragons battles are the most expensive for filming, due to Warner Brothers financial issues, they refused to add more funds. they end up gluing what have been filmed and cut two episodes of this season.
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 19 дней назад
Them being besties wasnt even book canon. They werent the same age. That was added in the series to add more drama to the story.
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 19 дней назад
​​@@imadrzek8901considering theres 12 to 15 battles that are left now to squeeze into 2 seasons, and apparently more than 1 in a season is too expensive.....I think fans are in for a world of heartbreak. Get ready for 2 more seasons of a lesbian soap opera with 1 or 2 dragon battles per season. They will either completely erase alot of battles, or get quick aftershots like the burning mill or sharp point. So much for the dance of the dragons. But hey, maybe we can get more rhaenyra/mysaria makeout scenes, aemond sucking titties in the fetal position, exploding sausage dick lines, and mudfights with random characters.
@UncleRuckus2134
@UncleRuckus2134 16 дней назад
Rhaenyra and Alicent do nothing so they should’ve been put to the side and characters like Jace focused on more,we got one scene of him in the North so shambolic.
@daarom3472
@daarom3472 2 дня назад
​@@imadrzek8901you remember how in GoT Season 1 we saw a complete tally of zero battles fought in live action. Remember how Robb defeating Jaime was completely awsome while all we saw was a wolf in the woods and him then riding back to Catlyn. Shows dont need big battles to be good.
@xkcez
@xkcez 24 дня назад
I don’t like Ben Shapiro AT ALL. But I take my hats off to anyone who speaks the truth about how terrible this season was.
@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9ho
@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9ho 20 дней назад
*yarmulke
@kkit8629
@kkit8629 20 дней назад
Truth 😅, geez it's just a Tv show buddy. Not everything gonna solve one's inner 1ncel copium & Broke bro loner frustration. Seriously do viewing ben shabibo even once turns normal one's into frustrated oldies or just ben only attracts Failure buddies just like his Political viewers.
@xkcez
@xkcez 19 дней назад
@@kkit8629 men, I really don’t kn what you are babbling about. But if insulting people on the Internet helps you sleep at night go for it champ!
@MrTbob418
@MrTbob418 17 дней назад
Some of the reasons are non existent though, so you take the hat off to anyone who agrees with you, even for the wrong reasons? E.g. criticising char motivations is as if he hadn't even watched the show. But bad so ok.
@andrewramirez3998
@andrewramirez3998 7 дней назад
@@kkit8629try speaking english properly before attempting to insult people? js bud :-)
@k_vengeance3859
@k_vengeance3859 24 дня назад
The Season was great until Aegon fell off of his dragon, then the pacing slowed down too much and it became kind of meh
@teamvoldemort2145
@teamvoldemort2145 9 дней назад
Well said
@kassandramarie3789
@kassandramarie3789 25 дней назад
Yeah I’m pretty upset we waited 2 years…. For NOTHING.
@sebaocampo1061
@sebaocampo1061 24 дня назад
And now we have to wait 2 more years... one season every 2 years and they do this crap.
@EliTecapture-ru3vw
@EliTecapture-ru3vw 24 дня назад
@@sebaocampo1061 and 4 more years for the last season
@ffspolly4407
@ffspolly4407 16 дней назад
Stop watching...? Since you think it's crapolo anyways
@supercat9501
@supercat9501 25 дней назад
They turned Daemon into a whiny envious toddler who dreamt the whole season.
@user-np4gr2je2q
@user-np4gr2je2q 24 дня назад
They put the most interesting character in a haunted house for the whole season what a fumble man
@aaronottermann5824
@aaronottermann5824 23 дня назад
A whiny envious toddler is also what he was in the first season. He just thought it was cool back then and acted out alot but is now on a journey of introspection to find his place.
@mesa577
@mesa577 9 дней назад
He was ambitious, ruthless and independent. Now he's a puppet, they could have still made him fight for rheanyra in other ways than reminding us of season 8. ​@@aaronottermann5824
@Adarkane325xi
@Adarkane325xi 25 дней назад
Everything that happens in the entire Season could’ve been compressed into 3 or even 2 episodes. They’re falling into the Dumb and Dumber (Dan and Dave), The Walking Dead, The Boys drag-a-season-out-and-do-nothing trope.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
They did get fucked by Warner though. Lost 2eps & $50M which they would have filmed the battle with.
@mianadahlia
@mianadahlia 24 дня назад
Theyre saving major battles and plots for the next seasons bcoz of budget issues but ended up making viewers confused on characrers inner compass
@Downtimelegion
@Downtimelegion 24 дня назад
@@theminister1154 here we are telling you that the whole season could be in 3 episodes and you're trying to convince us that it's WB's fault for not giving them 2 more episodes... You want us to see 2 more episodes of useless events and characters coming and going without any meaning ?
@Adarkane325xi
@Adarkane325xi 23 дня назад
@@Downtimelegion This ^^^^^^^
@Adarkane325xi
@Adarkane325xi 23 дня назад
@@theminister1154 I didn’t hear about any of that. I know Warner Bros. is pretty schizo in their decision making. But yeah, the point i made is that if they condensed the entire season as-is down into, and i’ll be generous, 3 episodes - they’d have had more time for actual storytelling. Damon wandering around Harenhall was a complete and total waste of time. The Queen and the Queen mom (already forget their names) each take an entire episode to sneak around and visit the other. It’s absurd. If the budget’s low, you pull a Shakespearian trick of describing the action offscreen.
@dmr87
@dmr87 25 дней назад
If peak Game of Thrones is a 10/10, this series is like a 5/10. I'm done.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
come back for Dunk & Egg. that should be good, mostly because it's not some great goddamn epic all the time
@ramasodimalete2699
@ramasodimalete2699 23 дня назад
Indeed
@UncleRuckus2134
@UncleRuckus2134 16 дней назад
@@theminister1154If they mess up Dunk and Egg we must riot
@raghvendrapratapsingh2585
@raghvendrapratapsingh2585 13 дней назад
@@theminister1154 Not holding my Breath. Its getting worse and worse. Rings, Thrones. Everything is ruined.
@clightning9703
@clightning9703 2 дня назад
@@raghvendrapratapsingh2585 Woke is destroying EVERYTHING
@Broomtwo
@Broomtwo 25 дней назад
Sucks they literally missed the point that actually Aegon should have been the heir by law, the king actually doesn't have the power to unilaterally declare who his heir is. The central theme should be a conflict between the side that believes the king is subject to the laws of the realm, and the side that believes the king can rule by decree. This is why in Games of Thrones itself, Stannis says Rhaenyra was a usurper, because she was. This mirror's Stannis's own claim as the legal successor to Robert Baratheon, which he was because of Cersei's children being bastards and Renly being behind Stannis in the succession.
@haydenharris5060
@haydenharris5060 24 дня назад
“The king doesn’t have the power” - According to what? There is no constitution in Westeros, it’s a monarchy where whatever the king says goes, period.
@Broomtwo
@Broomtwo 24 дня назад
@@haydenharris5060 You don't need a constitution to have laws of succession, the council of 101 AC established male-preference primogeniture. The laws of Westeros were similar to common law, precedence is extremely important. I only say this to show why so many houses supported the Greens, they believed Aegon was indeed the legal heir, it didn't necessarily have to do with the fact that the show showed Otto simply placing Aegon on the throne. At the end of the day, this was a feudal monarchy, not an absolute one, the King does not have limitless power to do whatever he wants. In the show, it shows that Aegon was not the rightful heir and only installed because of Otto's treachery and Alicent's misunderstanding, and it is extremely biased in Rhaenyra's favor. It shows that there is no legitimate argument for Aegon to the the rightful king, other than a simple misunderstanding. The issue is that this leaves the audience to make a decision of who to support based on "vibes" rather than legal precedent, so everyone will pick the Blacks since the Blacks are portrayed as somewhat more moral than the Greens (which isn't true in the books, both are bad).
@veraciao
@veraciao 18 дней назад
​@@haydenharris5060Westeros is a feudal monarchy, not absolute monarchy. Maegor thought he could do anything. See what happened to him.
@havu-xq4ip
@havu-xq4ip 7 дней назад
Yup. Rhaenyra is indeed an usurper though not entirely by her fault since the one who gave her Dragonstone was her father - the late King Viserys. And if he really does want her to be the unquestionable heir of the Seven Kingdoms, maybe, he should not have remarried. If he has a Son and still wants his daughter to inherit, then Rhaenyra better be the greatest woman that ever graced Westeros, like a genius charismatic Queen or something. She has 10 years more to build her own faction and the result was disappointing, to say the least. Viserys was a horrible father and a horrible King who ruled his Kingdom based on whims most of the time, unwilling to sacrifice a single thing for the country. When he can't just rule based on whims, he makes the most horrible decision possible.
@joshhadley9445
@joshhadley9445 25 дней назад
The show is so boring I can't finish the cliff notes
@ce6654
@ce6654 25 дней назад
Honestly, I'm really sad because I was actually happy after Season 1. I really thought we had something good. Season 2 comes in, and apart from a couple good episodes, it was a tired trailer for Season 3 that deviated so far from the source material that GRRM does even want to be associated with it.
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
That is kinda what happens when you loose 50 mil of your budget
@ce6654
@ce6654 24 дня назад
@davidfrederiksen3185 that happened post-Season 1? I feel like dropping the budget will ultimately make people not want to return for Season 3. Also, the attempts at making the Blacks into this moral side and the Greens as the despicable ones were a bad idea because nobody in the books was a good guy. You could see the quandary in the final episode when Rhyneara is going to burn several cities and their entire population. She says she doesn't think it's a good idea, but then the White Worm in an extremely annoying accent says, "But you are just!" I'm pretty sure the population of those soon-to-be ruined cities don't see it that way, especially after Aemond burned one city and the whole episode focused on how horrible he was.
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
@@ce6654 well in the books she also gets worse and first really becomes bad when she takes kings landing. But so far they have shown that her and her sons are not morally good. Especially with how they treat the dragon seeds
@ce6654
@ce6654 24 дня назад
@davidfrederiksen3185 it's true, but it seems like the writers are desperate to turn her into some kind of moral character in the hope that you'll overlook those things.
@Mike.W.Dasher
@Mike.W.Dasher 25 дней назад
Sounds like they took inspiration from the books. 5,000 pages of reading, only for the white walkers to still not invade, the Starks to still not get any revenge, and for Daenerys to still not return to Westeros. Just characters wandering around in circles and dying before they can accomplish anything noteworthy.
@Brettyb93
@Brettyb93 25 дней назад
This here. People don’t realize that G.R.R Martins books are just 5000 pages of filler at this point. And trust me he won’t finish that last book because he wrote himself 500 different plot points that he can’t tie up.
@joeyjoey1044
@joeyjoey1044 25 дней назад
Perhaps you should read twilight, much smaller scope for you.
@NickMachado
@NickMachado 25 дней назад
If you thought the point of the books was for the starks to get "revenge" you are reading the wrong series.
@Mike.W.Dasher
@Mike.W.Dasher 25 дней назад
@@NickMachado Where did I say it was the point of the books? It's unquestionably a major plot line established in the first book, which carries on throughout the series. The Starks don't want to rule Westeros, right? Their only interest is in getting justice for the wrongs committed against them, and their people. That is their motive in this game of thrones.
@CornG4397
@CornG4397 25 дней назад
@@Mike.W.Dasher and they lost, that is the plot
@Mansini77
@Mansini77 25 дней назад
The characters and their motivations of HOTD can’t hold a candle to GOT seasons 1-4.
@wayneandcherylburrows3016
@wayneandcherylburrows3016 25 дней назад
HBO ruined a great book with woke crap.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
If you'd have read aSoIaF you'd have known that this "woke crap" was there all along. It's an unfortunate byproduct of those flashy shows, to pull in backwards thinking people, to whom the story was never intended 🤦
@PsychoSpartan7
@PsychoSpartan7 25 дней назад
​@@nimrodsangero3753that just means the book is trash too. If you support anything woke (and you know exactly what I mean by that), you are worse than backwards thinking.
@johnhatchel9681
@johnhatchel9681 25 дней назад
​@@nimrodsangero3753The author has complained about too many changes being made. Like the excessive, obnoxious wokeness.
@Red137
@Red137 25 дней назад
​@@johnhatchel9681get a grip for gods sake
@johnhatchel9681
@johnhatchel9681 25 дней назад
@@Red137 I've got a grip. I'm just pointing out the authors opinion. It's irrelevant whether you like it or not.
@thevictoryoverhimself7298
@thevictoryoverhimself7298 25 дней назад
Game of thrones really speedrunning the “early seasons were good, late seasons were crap” thing. At least the original was really really really good for 3 seasons
@spOOnOrg
@spOOnOrg 25 дней назад
season 4 was the best season of Game of thrones
@Rundik
@Rundik 25 дней назад
Only if you skip the "early seasons were good" part
@-Default.
@-Default. 25 дней назад
*4 seasons
@randomdude189
@randomdude189 25 дней назад
Game of thrones was never good
@luker2693
@luker2693 25 дней назад
@@randomdude189 No, it was great
@jedlink136
@jedlink136 22 дня назад
The only redeeming quality of House of the Dragon Season 2 is that it made me really enjoy cancelling my HBO Max subscription.
@princesshyrule
@princesshyrule 23 дня назад
THANK YOU. I've been called childish for complaining that nothing happened during the entire season. That season finale was a disgrace.
@titosdorito9628
@titosdorito9628 22 дня назад
You still are. Aegon hatred for Rhaenrya worsened after blood and cheese. Rhaenys effort to protect rooks rest fails thanks to Aemonds and Cristons plan. RIP Rhaenrya is convinced to find dragons riders to face Aemond and Vhagar. Deals with the struggles of being a woman and Queen. Jace comes in clutch with securing the twins for passage for the grey beards. Aemond becomes regent after rooks rest battle. Larys manipulates Aegon during his weakened state and is scheming. Daemon raised an army and now believes in the prophecy. Criston Cole and Gwayne lead the green armies leaving them traumatized but are willing to accepted their deaths. Children: “ Nothing happened im so mad. I want fun!!!”
@titosdorito9628
@titosdorito9628 22 дня назад
Were there bad decisions and certain moment/scenes throughout the season that didn’t work or could’ve been better? Yes!!! Was it horrible season? Hell nah. Decent season with development and building.
@vovaprykhod27
@vovaprykhod27 18 дней назад
@@titosdorito9628 i'm glad, that i'm not alone
@MReidogado
@MReidogado 7 дней назад
@@titosdorito9628there s no hatred between the families bro
@titosdorito9628
@titosdorito9628 7 дней назад
@@MReidogado I think you mean there is no hatred between the women. Get it right bro.
@zerostozeros
@zerostozeros 24 дня назад
The main problem with HOTD is that you don't have creative filmmakers running the show. It's clear the executive board of HBO is calling all the shots. Season 2 was the worst, and sadly, no matter what they do, it cannot be fixed. The glory years of the first five seasons of Game of Thrones are gone forever. We'll have to wait for another sleeper series flying under the radar of the executive board to get some good story telling again. SMH
@NickMachado
@NickMachado 25 дней назад
Season 2 turned into every other woke show pushing "the message". The entire season 2 was women talking about being women and how all the men around them are evil and or incompetent. Its just the same tired feminist propaganda we've heard a million times.
@bartman231
@bartman231 25 дней назад
Ugh. Has no one learned from South Park? Everything that happens is followed by “and then”…”because”… Argh! They are squandering a truly great story-instead we get “feelings” and “angst”. And then they cut the balls off the main drivers of the story so we can have girl bosses. What. Shit.
@kaitospin3944
@kaitospin3944 24 дня назад
The dialogues in this show are painful to listen to! Absolute dog shit. Characters are inconsistent and confused nd just going in circles... Character A: we must go to war Character B: no, we must find another way next episode Character A: we need peace Character B: no, we need to go to war
@robtierney5653
@robtierney5653 24 дня назад
Matt Smith spent the entire season looking like a Final Fantasy Game villain.
@havok6280
@havok6280 25 дней назад
It's not a war between the Targaryens and the Hightowers. The Greens are also Targaryens.
@shubhojitpal5490
@shubhojitpal5490 25 дней назад
Blame the show runners, they are in your face telling you all the time that Alicent's kids are hightowers . Rhaenyra keep calling Aegon Alicent's kid instead of her half brother.
@supercat9501
@supercat9501 25 дней назад
Yea it annoyed me when he said Aemond killed the Targaryen kid 😂 like he was Velaryon that’s technically a strong
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 25 дней назад
It is one branch of Targaryens primarily backed by the Hightowers and another branch backed by the Velaryons. The former's claim comes from custom, a son inherits before a daughter, the other comes from the previous king having explicitlynamed his eldest daughter his heir.
@mohammadvahidi5483
@mohammadvahidi5483 25 дней назад
"those cucumber cunts are no dragons" -- daemon, probably
@raymondsims7042
@raymondsims7042 25 дней назад
@@shubhojitpal5490she barely knows aegon even though she’s his sister she’s way older and hasn’t interacted with him much. Aegon, aemond, haleena, Daron are Targaryens the show never changed that
@reellifeoutdoors2905
@reellifeoutdoors2905 25 дней назад
This show DOESNT HAVE TO SUCK! They made this season unbelievably woke. Its the writers who made the actual story, which is great, and made it trash. On top of that, they made a 2 season show last 4 seasons. It shouldnt and cant. Thats why we have story building. They dont want to waste all the action which would fill 2 seasons. Take the series shogun, which relied almost soley on great story telling. Rarely a whole lot of action but was still great. Writers have these "strong women" who literally do nothing. They have the men who just want to fight... they have race based characters who do not exist in the book like the Sea Snake. They have that new "female" sailor who id a RL trans individual. They had the unnecessary Daemon and mom scene. Unnecessary Rhaenyra and servent kiss. They have the unnecessary cole and alicent scenes... Its woke garbage
@tuff220
@tuff220 25 дней назад
I don’t see how it’s woke, Game of thrones had “strong women” also that’s how George wants his show to be, how is it race based when in the book I don’t think race was specifically described you may have read it and automatically assumed white, but it’s a fantasy, I love how people are perfectly fine with flying fire breathing dragons but god forbid a person with dark skin appears, or a women actually was given power and used you to her advantage. Grow up buddy
@Birdflaps20
@Birdflaps20 24 дня назад
@@tuff220 hey buddy velaryions intermarry with targs for generations, they should all be mixed or pale, if the show can’t follow basic stuff like this it’s a sign of what to come. The problem isn’t strong women, the books alicent and rherhya were strong and cunning. The show took a different approach making them innocent sad victims of bad men around them. Notice how the women are the only ones still talking about peace and the “good of the realm”. They were both power hungry ambitious women. You have no idea what your saying
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
​@@Birdflaps20the book Is written as a history book. And Targs aren't your normal humans they are special with special eyes special dreams and a lot of magic
@tyrionlannister521
@tyrionlannister521 24 дня назад
I also didn't find a lot of these "woke" writing choices to add to the story. People watch these shows as a means of escape and entertainment. Not to have the constant woke messaging we see on a daily basis shoved into our faces. I already canceled my Disney Plus account last year, I might have to cancel HBO too.
@heizeking3557
@heizeking3557 24 дня назад
true, the story and the characters are actually very interesting~ but they ruined them all
@conniptions1533
@conniptions1533 24 дня назад
It goes deeper, not only is the season just bad but they also butchered the entire plot and the characters from the book. Characters which were ruthless and flawed like alicent have been reduced to a nail biting craven who just wants to run away and is willing to give up her own child for it
@rickrhymes3423
@rickrhymes3423 25 дней назад
The show sucks and I'm thankful for you're honesty. People whining over valid criticism of this show need to go outside a bit more.
@bucks216
@bucks216 25 дней назад
Walking dead fan? Makes sense 😂😂😂
@Nobod51
@Nobod51 25 дней назад
@@bucks216 i watching season 1 of walking dead does it gets bad as it progresses?
@bucks216
@bucks216 25 дней назад
@Nobod51 Nothing changes. It's the same thing over and over. The first couple of seasons are good. When they introduced the Tiger, I gave up.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 25 дней назад
So why are you watching/paying for it? And watching him giving it more publicity? Do you not understand all of you are giving them EXACTLY what they want? Do you not understand that they don't care if you watch it because you love it or you hate it?
@randomdude189
@randomdude189 25 дней назад
Game of thrones sucked too.
@jaymelwill
@jaymelwill 23 дня назад
Yep. This season was awful. Could’ve been done in 3-4 episodes. What a joke. Terrible.
@jamiereekie9342
@jamiereekie9342 23 дня назад
My biggest issue is the showrunners and writers are clear biased to team blacks and incompetent on how to adapt a story! Rhaenyra is a terrible leader and they act like the sun shines out of her arse! Even to a point where characters have gripes or criticisms of her behaviour just to have another character randomly defend her (namely her lesbo friend) They've completely destroyed the greens character. Aemond is a cartoonishly evil villain all of a sudden and don't even get me started on alicent!.. I doubt they had the brain power to recover from this unless they fire the writers and bring back the guy from the first season that made it work.
@the54th34
@the54th34 23 дня назад
Yes it was disappointing. Daemon on shrooms for 7 1/2 episodes. Rhaenyra just flying around having meetings with her ememy. It sucked
@robertmartin995
@robertmartin995 25 дней назад
The 1st season was so promising.😢
@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9ho
@PhantomFilmmaker-jd9ho 20 дней назад
Agreed.
@AshikurRahmanRifat
@AshikurRahmanRifat 6 дней назад
I did not even watch it.
@jasondouglas152
@jasondouglas152 25 дней назад
Everyone acts like idiots because of the D.E.I. writing and directing
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
You do know that this is based on a book right
@nobodyatall781
@nobodyatall781 24 дня назад
@@davidfrederiksen3185 a book written by a feminist
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
@@nobodyatall781 and these are some of the greatest fantasy books ever written. So what does this tell you
@nobodyatall781
@nobodyatall781 24 дня назад
@@davidfrederiksen3185 They aren't and even if they are, it doesn't matter, they still remain filthy woke storytelling
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
@@nobodyatall781 doesn't surprise that you apparently don't read haha. If being woke doesn't mean bad then the word is not a negative
@AbegazNap
@AbegazNap 25 дней назад
The wife that was chaste, loyal, caring and duty bound is the one that is villainized, meanwhile the harlot that sired bastard children is the one that is deemed in the "right".
@TheBallsbreakers
@TheBallsbreakers 25 дней назад
This exactly. I can't stand Rhaenyra
@donovanhouse9584
@donovanhouse9584 25 дней назад
The entire theme of George Martin characters is being a gray character in which you can never really call them good or bad. The mere fact that so many people argue over whether they are good or bad means the character is doing exactly what George Martin wanted
@AbegazNap
@AbegazNap 25 дней назад
@@donovanhouse9584 maybe the novels are different, but the subtext from the tv series is clear in imo, that is why the consensus online seems to be Alicent is evil and Rhaneyra is sunshine and rainbows.
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 25 дней назад
In GOT there are no moral rewards that’s the entire point, being good and honorable actually makes things worse for you
@AudreyStryder222
@AudreyStryder222 25 дней назад
Cos they are. She was the heir.
@J.R.Penrice
@J.R.Penrice 25 дней назад
And yet this show is better than Rings of Power...
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
So is the Fresh Prince of BelAir. And New Girl. And Chicago Fire. You gotta go like *HALO* low to get under the Rings of Power Plus Privilege 8) *ACOLYTE* low.
@J.R.Penrice
@J.R.Penrice 25 дней назад
@@theminister1154 I try to stay within the medieval fantasy genre when comparing. HOTD is better than the Witcher, Wheel of Time, Rings of Power etc. They are shit in comparison, which doesn't make HOTD great, just tolerable in a era of lazy activist writing/casting we've been getting lately in these other shows. I also disagree with Ben that a show needs flashy battles to hold interest in a story, Game of Thrones for the first 5 seasons had good character development and court intrigue that drew people in, the battles/action scenes were just icing on the cake.
@cantfindawayout
@cantfindawayout 25 дней назад
@@J.R.Penrice Well, to be completely fair, Game of Thrones had thousands and thousands of pages to rely upon to portray those characters (as in, they had the books that very long and very detailed), the whole story was created FOR them, they just had to put it to screen. Dance of the Dragons, which is what HotD is portraying, is like what...70 pages in total? With barely any details? So they pretty much had to fill in 80% of the details. I'd say it is to be expected that they can't create as good of a story/character interactions as GRRM can. Also, to be completely fair to the creators of the show, they were fucked over by HBO in a major way, having to reduce the episode count for this season from 10 to 8 due to not having been given money for the last 2 episodes, which were supposed to be major events (Things that happen in Kings Landing and The Gullet).
@nicbahtin4774
@nicbahtin4774 24 дня назад
When you compare bad to mehh
@J.R.Penrice
@J.R.Penrice 24 дня назад
@@cantfindawayout I didn't know HBO did not give them enough funding for this season, G.R.R.M. was suppose to help with this show's development, but then again he's had writers block for over a decade now. At the very least this show doesn't piss me off and it's watchable, unlike the Witcher and Rings of Power. The first season was better, though it had it's own issues.
@davidross8233
@davidross8233 25 дней назад
The entire season could have been condensed into two episodes.
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
It really couldn't then you would have a late game of thrones problem
@melissasimmons4404
@melissasimmons4404 24 дня назад
Yeah they have no idea what they’re talking about. How could they condense the kid being killed, the blockade and the starvation of kings landing, the twins dying, garnering armies across the river lands, the battle of rooks rest, the anointing of Criston Cole as HOTK, the dragonseeds mounting the dragons etc etc like what? It would take atleast half of the season to go through this
@davidross8233
@davidross8233 24 дня назад
@@melissasimmons4404 the same way they make 2-3 hour movies that cover the entirety of a world war. Like that.
@melissasimmons4404
@melissasimmons4404 23 дня назад
Horrible analogy. Those movies usually only have a 1-3 characters with one linear storyline and one setting. You genuinely believe we would be able to get all of what I mentioned condensed in 3 episodes?! We have multiple different characters, new characters and alliances we have to introduce, with different locations, different motivations et I agree some parts were slow but a 2 seasons show would’ve been insane. They war should’ve broke out at the beginning of first episode and the killing of the kid still happens then, so cut out all the indecisiveness which could’ve save 3 episodes. Daemon capturing Harrenhal & getting alliance of river land lords in episode 2-4, the blockade also starting in episode 2 rooks rest in episode 3, and the dragon seeds should’ve been introduced around episode 5. Then we could’ve spent the rest of the season showing the battle of the gullet, falling of kings landing etc
@JaketheJust
@JaketheJust 25 дней назад
It’s not the dragon people watched the Song of Fire and Ice series. It’s the characters that they bring to the show. The best characters in HoTD were Daemon and Viserys, the rogue prince and the tragic king.
@supercat9501
@supercat9501 25 дней назад
They ruined daemon instead of a badass we got a whiny jealous man child.
@SuperMarkizas
@SuperMarkizas 25 дней назад
So true! Tyrion was my absolute favorite until last few seasons. Littlefinger was also fire
@mochalotte4702
@mochalotte4702 9 дней назад
Tragic king? Dude wasn’t tragic he was incompetent, stupid and blind. He set up the entire civil war.
@Thoseeyesozise
@Thoseeyesozise 25 дней назад
The funny thing to me is the 'queen' regent, who was ruling in the stead of the king, was replaced and removed from the council. She then proceeds to give up on life, flee to the woods and float in the lake of depression ALL because she is no longer the center of attention. If this is not a metaphor for modern women I don't know what is.
@spartanmuse
@spartanmuse 25 дней назад
She’s not the only one, there’s also Rhaena (the one who found the dragon near the end of the episode) she was told to go look after her younger family members (her cousin and her half brothers) not to pursue her dreams just because she couldn’t get over not having a dragon.
@dragosmic4903
@dragosmic4903 23 дня назад
media literacy???
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 22 дня назад
She was a badass in season 1 who did what she had to for her family. But the producers thought she was a stand in for "female Trump voter" and needed to humiliate her. Meanwhile, Rhaenyra is an insufferable narcissist in season one who has some innocent people killed so she can sleep with her uncle. And in season 2, she impulsively introduces nuclear level weaponry to a war. And she's supposed to be the benevolent hero? Donald Trump broke Hollywood, truly
@meganjk
@meganjk 21 день назад
Uh... no. It was her realization that everything she'd done was completely in vain and a massive mistake. She knows she fucked up but it's way too late and the damage irreparable. It's actually pretty fantastic character writing. I'm not sure why so many people hate it when we haven't had proper character development in years. Probably because people complain no matter what. I love the show, it actually feels like GRRM's writing again, with so many details and political back and forth. But people just want dragons and explosions I guess.
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 21 день назад
@meganjk It's not about dragons and explosions. I would love good character drama. It's just stupid that Alicent was trained by Otto for years on end and was presumably ready for this reality and yet she's surprised that people are dying? She loved her kids but was bad at showing it, and now she's okay consenting to both of their executions? It was a complete character assassination. There was the great scene with her brother where she reflects on her mistakes. But going from that to being suicidal and wanting your sons executed is ludicrous. You can't put an artsy bath scene in the middle and call that a character arc
@ragokueod
@ragokueod 23 дня назад
This is why I've tuned out to big shows like this. Rings of Power, house of the dragon, etc. They have no clear plot, they have no clear characters, they have no idea what type of show/ movie they're making other than they're making a Z rated film/show with a AAA budget.
@marandajohnson7588
@marandajohnson7588 21 день назад
I recommend reading the book if you haven’t. It’s much better.
@Jay-om8gr
@Jay-om8gr 23 дня назад
Biggest problem is that the source material is not long enough to stretch out for several seasons. Should have been a movie trilogy
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 19 дней назад
Considering how many battles they have left to squeeze into 2 seasons, they need more than just 2. If money was the issue that kept more dragon fights out of this season.....how are they gonna afford 15 dragon fights between the next 2? Get ready for a major letdown. I got a weird feeling they're gonna lean into the lesbian soap opera with the war just being a background setting. We might actually SEE 3 or 4 battles total, but the rest will either be shown aftermath like burning mill or just mentioned in a council meeting or something. I learned my lesson with game of thrones. When the writing goes to shit, there's no going back.
@Jay-om8gr
@Jay-om8gr 19 дней назад
@@johnwayne9828 each game of thrones season was based off roughly an entire book right? But HoD is taking one book and stretching it out over several seasons
@Jay-om8gr
@Jay-om8gr 19 дней назад
@@johnwayne9828 i honestly didn’t even finish season 2. They were doing too much. The dance is dragons is probably my favorite story from the books but theyre doing it in slow motion and making mistakes and changes. I’m not eager to watch the way i was with GoT
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 19 дней назад
@@Jay-om8gr yes. My point was that with only 2 seasons to work with, 12 or more battles left, and wb showing that they will only fund 1 or 2 battles a season, the show is going to end up cutting out ALOT of the action. My complaint is this is supposed to be the dance of the dragons, the most epic war in Westerosi history, and instead were getting a soap opera.
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 19 дней назад
@@Jay-om8gr I did finish season 2, but I wont watch anymore. Like I said, I learned my lesson with game of thrones.
@Laughy-Flaaffy
@Laughy-Flaaffy 25 дней назад
I only subscribe to Ben Shapiro specifically for his reviews in tv shows and movies, because they’re the best reviews ever. I don’t care for politics, I just love Ben’s personality. Crucify me.
@JobVanDam
@JobVanDam 25 дней назад
You pee with your pants around your ankles.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
He's not always right, but I like his approach. No frills. He's not the Critical Drinker, but who is?
@jhzwwe123
@jhzwwe123 25 дней назад
U should reallllly try out other you tubers then lol this was a very basic breakdown compared to others lmao
@Alex_H_Sol
@Alex_H_Sol 25 дней назад
He's not good
@larrynewman8861
@larrynewman8861 24 дня назад
Why crucify you? I don’t have the time,cross, or stakes. Besides it’s 102 degrees outside and that is punishment enough.As for the review yeah he is ok there is another yountuber that really goes into detail. I suppose The Boys and HOTD both dragged out their seasons this year. HOTD ends season four so I hope we don’t get a rushed season three.
@charmedprince
@charmedprince 25 дней назад
i stopped watching this show when Rhaenyra grew up into Emma D'arcy
@privard89
@privard89 25 дней назад
I think it's funny that whenever there is a RU-vid video with her in it 90% of the comment section is a battle over pronouns.
@tkmmkt6569
@tkmmkt6569 25 дней назад
The original Girl was so ridiculously hot.
@user-hg3iv5hy3s
@user-hg3iv5hy3s 25 дней назад
The first actress Milly Alcock had the right swag. Her aura was believable for the book version of Rhaenyra. Emma lacks the same effortless IDGAF energy.
@danh.5998
@danh.5998 25 дней назад
@@user-hg3iv5hy3syep. Amazed they made that time jump so quickly. She is better than the new sctress
@charmedprince
@charmedprince 24 дня назад
@@user-hg3iv5hy3s true . Milly made it enjoyable.
@user-pb9pv4iq4u
@user-pb9pv4iq4u 25 дней назад
For clarification the gay kiss was not scripted
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
But it is kinda part of the book
@tx-jc5nd
@tx-jc5nd 24 дня назад
​@@davidfrederiksen3185It is kinda like pretty much straight up heckin' NOT in the book. You clearly haven't read it and are just using the "but it's based on a book" line to defend it. I have read it. The book is not at all what you think it is. It has no details.
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
@@tx-jc5nd my guy I have the book besides me. That's why I said kinda. The book is a in universe book and in it there are rumors that they have threesomes with daemon so yeah it is kinda in the book. Just not the one on one
@richierich7229
@richierich7229 24 дня назад
​@@davidfrederiksen3185I dont remember those rumors in the books.
@lucasguinazu3980
@lucasguinazu3980 16 дней назад
Stop crying
@vertigo2894
@vertigo2894 4 дня назад
Blame Martin, in the books, it's even worse.
@jjwallnutts
@jjwallnutts 25 дней назад
The whole season was painful. If they dont pick it up for season 3, no way they make it to season 4
@xxxs8309
@xxxs8309 23 дня назад
Nothing is decent these days
@b-rock6052
@b-rock6052 25 дней назад
The show was victim to an 8-episode season. Originally it was supposed to be 10 episodes which would have helped the season feel more complete. It felt like every episode was building towards a climax that never happened
@ClareKlee
@ClareKlee 25 дней назад
100%! Episode 8 seemed like an Episode 8 in a 10 episode season!
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
2 eps, 50 million bucks. Warner's fault.
@cody1206
@cody1206 25 дней назад
My thoughts exactly. I doubt people would be complaining if we had and additional two episodes to resolve these plot threads. They cut the episodes for budgetary reasons, but now they risk losing viewership becuase of fading interest. HBO should have foot the bill.
@markekar6021
@markekar6021 25 дней назад
no, this is not it. it would have just been more crap 1ith 10 episodes. didnt solve the problem. the issue is this. season 1 should have been 2 seasons. this current season should have been shortened and added to the second part of season 1.
@markekar6021
@markekar6021 25 дней назад
@@cody1206 no. they could have cut out all the filler and added those two imaginary episodes. 8 episodes isnt the issue.
@NoOneAtAll-bz3zb
@NoOneAtAll-bz3zb 24 дня назад
They really are twisting the teat for every last penny at the expense of the story. The book HOTD is based on is literally just that, one book, that they are purposefully dragging out; kind of like how the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park had the gaps in thier DNA filled with that of a frog, the writers of HOTD are filling in the gaps of what should have been a 10 episode single Season one-shot spin off with thier incompetence and lack of talent. In the OG series GOT, they had Martin's Magnum Opus to draw back upon at an average of 1 book per season. Where they completely screwed up is after Season 1 (which was literally word for word, scene for scene the book, simply adapted on screen) once they started changing the story from the books they exponentially screwed up until we got the dumpster fire that was season 8. George R.R. Martin is a genius, the series writers are not and it shows... all they had to do was type up the novels into script form.
@petter8166
@petter8166 20 дней назад
Did you even read fire and blood?the story of hotd isnt the whole book,and the book isn't like asoiaf,it is more of a history book
@joesmith4981
@joesmith4981 24 дня назад
The whole season was like 40 pages of the book. They could of at least did 60-80 pages!
@spiderliliez
@spiderliliez 16 дней назад
You're always whining and embarrassing yourself, Ben.
@iliasiosifidis4532
@iliasiosifidis4532 25 дней назад
Last episode title The House of Blue Balls: The Epic battle that never was
@alishaperry9321
@alishaperry9321 25 дней назад
🤣😭💀
@dereka5017
@dereka5017 25 дней назад
Ha, the finale 💯 should have been called The Battle That Never Was, for sure!
@dragerdet
@dragerdet 23 дня назад
It was due to the writers strike, which is why it was only 8 episodes.
@LappsJim
@LappsJim 23 дня назад
WTF Am I agreeing with Ben Shapiro
@AshikurRahmanRifat
@AshikurRahmanRifat 6 дней назад
I used to hate him for hating Muslims but I was taught a lesson by the Muslims. They will annihilate you in name of Thier religion
@WinningWithWarchild
@WinningWithWarchild 25 дней назад
Game of Thrones blew me away when it came out. I thought the acting and dialogue was superb and they had just enough special effects to make it real for me. What I really appreciated was never knowing how things were going to turn out or end. I know a lot of folks hated the ending and I didn't care for it that much myself, but I can honestly say that it was entertaining to have it go a way that I didn't expect. The only part of the whole series that I didn't like was when the Queen burned the city for no reason - it just felt weird against everything else. But other than that, I haven't found anything remotely as entertaining as that series. And this House of Dragon series actually ruins a lot of the lore that I had in my head from GOT. These characters are bad, the dialogue and plots are bad, and things are mostly predictable - even the dragon death scenes. It's only entertaining to me because it somewhat helps me appreciate GOT a little more than I already did.
@ClareKlee
@ClareKlee 25 дней назад
My big WTF was Bran being crowned King 🤷‍♀🤪
@WinningWithWarchild
@WinningWithWarchild 25 дней назад
@@ClareKlee Exactly! I never saw that coming and that's what I liked about it. Of course, I wanted King Snow but having it go a different way had some value to it. For me, it all started with Ned getting killed - never seen such a prominent, likeable figure getting killed so early in a show. Snow getting stabbed, the Red Wedding, Ice Wall coming down, etc. They ended each season with a gasper and I rarely gasp. I know there's a lot of hate out there for those 2 guys but I've never been on the edge of my seat for so many years. Now, they can just come out with a follow up with Snow, his sisters, etc., my life
@osas2kul
@osas2kul 23 дня назад
Daemon lost his aura😭...don't see him the same anymore 😒 HBO has a PhD in how to butcher characters fr fr
@user-np4gr2je2q
@user-np4gr2je2q 23 дня назад
Nah Daemon will always have aura the problem is that They took their most interesting tb character and put him in a haunted house the whole season wtf were they thinking 🤦‍♂️
@petter8166
@petter8166 20 дней назад
He will regain his aura,trust me
@AshikurRahmanRifat
@AshikurRahmanRifat 6 дней назад
Daemon should have played a bigger role,he should have prevented the war his inability to take harsh decisions and further escalating the war results in dragons dead and kingdom in ruins eventually leading to Robert baratheon and Ned stark absolutely fking the targaryens
@astang1072
@astang1072 25 дней назад
I tried caring about Porn of Thrones and all the spinoffs, but then I remembered I have a life
@taylorlibby7642
@taylorlibby7642 25 дней назад
Gonna sound like I'm picking nits here but I come from a family of platinum/white blonds and it's always sorta bugged me that the Targaryeans in GoT and HotD don't have blond eyebrows.
@SuperMarkizas
@SuperMarkizas 25 дней назад
Would look too albino perhaps. Eyebrows are key feature of face, best portraying feelings.
@taylorlibby7642
@taylorlibby7642 25 дней назад
Maybe. Takes away from "realism" and makes it look very much like all the actors are either wearing wigs or have had a bad dye job though imo. ​
@tyrionlannister521
@tyrionlannister521 24 дня назад
I thought about that too. If you notice in GOT season 1 and (I believe) 2, the makeup team powdered Emilia Clarke's eyebrows because she naturally has very dark brows, which made it look more believable. Emma D'arcy doesn't have as thick or dark brows as Emilia, so the look was more believable, but in GOT season 3-8 they didn't powder Emilia's brows so there was a noticeable contrast. Plus her hair in seasons 7 and 8 was WAY too large and elaborate. No living human has enough hair on their head to make braids that large and stacked.
@josephnjuguna1986
@josephnjuguna1986 24 дня назад
Indeed
@johnwayne9828
@johnwayne9828 19 дней назад
Or purple eyes
@ThePrevo02
@ThePrevo02 25 дней назад
Oddly accurate review. I binged watched the series yesterday and the comment about not caring if any of these characters died is true. The series really went nowhere for 8 episodes, adding 2 eps to ten would've just prolonged the misery.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
The 2 eps were the big battle. Warner had some need to make the books look good & shorted them a big chunk of the budget. What they should have done is shorted them half & had 'em pare it down to 8 episodes _with_ the battle.
@havok6280
@havok6280 25 дней назад
At this point of the book, Rhaenyra is MIA. She's mourning Luke and recovering from her stillbirth. So the show had to find things for her to do.
@heizeking3557
@heizeking3557 24 дня назад
they could've just fast forward some events
@havok6280
@havok6280 19 дней назад
​@heizeking3557 not really. For example Rhaenrya was not involved with the Dragon seeds in the book. That was all Jace. They couldn't exactly skip over that.
@heizeking3557
@heizeking3557 19 дней назад
@@havok6280 they could've at least made it more interesting~ however it is, it doesn't change the fact that it was boring, and many people think so, if you like it, that's fine
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
Jaehaerys is NOT a waste of space. His character arc about wanting to contribute to the war effort, but not being able to because of his key position and dominiring mother, is relatable and logical I think. And he raised some very valid concerns about thinking twice before opening dragon riding to the common folk, to secure their exclusivity to the throne. It also tied neatly to the father complex imposed upon him, which I found to be very good writing.
@barryallen119
@barryallen119 24 дня назад
*Jacaerys. He secured the North and the Twins this season. He was far more useful than his mother and her council.
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 24 дня назад
​@@barryallen119 The show didn't do a good job of showing though. It's mostly telling which is not good TV
@Hiaki1000
@Hiaki1000 23 дня назад
You gotta admit though that his whining is annoying af. Plus it's not opening dragon riding to all comon folk - just Targaryen bastards which he himself is one and he knows about it so not really a valid point. That was actually one of the things I liked about the season since they actually gave a lot of foreshadowing for that
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 23 дня назад
@@Hiaki1000 Didn't come across as whining to me, just frustrated. The difference is him mostly suggesting alternative courses of actions, not just criticism of his mother. As for opening up dragon riding - I think they made it pretty clear that the issue is not that literally everyone could now come and steal their dragons, but rather that bastards count as low-born in the eyes of the common folk. If they see bastards as dragon riders they can come to the conclusion that the Targaryen claim to rule is only a technical function of Valyrian blood, not an endorsement of their lineage by the gods. Jace is not just worried about his personal claim getting weakened, but for the very continuation of Targaryen rule. So the point still stands. Jace being a bastard himself makes no difference here, because most of the small folk probably don't actually think he is one. We never saw the greens making official accusations the way we saw with Stannis and Joffrey in GoT. So even if there are whispers it does not affect public perception as much. Indeed, letting Targaryen bastards become riders might be the very thing that would convince the common folk that Jace is a bastard, since prior they would have believed that it is impossible for bastards to be a rider, which everyone knows Jace to be. So if anything that strengthens my point.
@Hiaki1000
@Hiaki1000 23 дня назад
@@nimrodsangero3753 I feel like everyone knows they are bastards - Ulf even hinted to that by joking about his hair. And as for the whole weakening of their claim: 1. They have dragons - who cares what people think 2. The throne is theirs anyways by blood - they don't to be "true dragon riders" i don't think the common folk care about that. It was pure selfishness of Jace to not want that to happen imo
@bbbtollway
@bbbtollway 23 дня назад
Don't know if you've seen Peaky Blinders but that's one of the ONLY shows where the smart character remains smart and makes smart decisions the entire time. Is he a good person? Nope. Does he outsmart every plot against him and continually be 5 steps ahead? Absolutely. Hands down one of the best TV characters.
@Bamgeutcutiepie
@Bamgeutcutiepie 25 дней назад
if this is the worst finale you've ever seen... you should have watched umbrella academy 😭
@randomdude189
@randomdude189 25 дней назад
Why would anyone watch that?
@Bamgeutcutiepie
@Bamgeutcutiepie 25 дней назад
@@randomdude189 because it used to be a good show, and now we just want to know how it ended 😄 and boy was it horrible
@scott8934
@scott8934 25 дней назад
I couldn’t get through 3 episodes of that show. It’s so corny.
@DarkPassenger
@DarkPassenger 25 дней назад
Or season 8 of the first GOT series....
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
@@randomdude189 First season was pretty good actually.
@Wrath-Of-Storms
@Wrath-Of-Storms 11 дней назад
This season was a hot pile of garbage.
@brianbauer8761
@brianbauer8761 24 дня назад
They even tried to follow Disneys lead. As eric cartman would say "they put a chick in it and made it gay and lame"
@Peridactyloptrix
@Peridactyloptrix 22 дня назад
The right when a show has one single lesbian kiss: “OMG, I CANT BELIEVE THEY RUINED THE SHOW WITH THEIR WICKED IMMORAL WOKE AGENDA” The right when that same show features an adult man having an ongoing sexual relationship with his underage niece: “….” Not a great look to be so openly pro-incest and grooming….
@lisavankoevering6212
@lisavankoevering6212 23 дня назад
Nailed it! You summed it all up perfectly! Awful show so far
@gregoryfloriolli9031
@gregoryfloriolli9031 25 дней назад
Here’s my theory. Viscerys died last season. They got rid of Otto this season. They’ve heavily foreshadowed that Daemon is going to die. Aemond’s sister basically came out and told him he is going to die. They didn’t want to go into season 3 with all of those characters dead. Who would watch? This whole season ended up being filler.
@TheXantaur
@TheXantaur 25 дней назад
Yeah Helena spoiled the entire plot, no cap, just re-listen to her line and you'll know what happens.
@LWolf94
@LWolf94 25 дней назад
But everyone already knows that they are ALL going to die. There's no point in foreshadowing and dragging it on for long, when even people who didn't read the books know what's going to happen in the long-run. From my point of view, directors are just terribly scared of having short shows these days. This entire show could have been made in two seasons of 10 episodes and be done. There's not that much material to make it into something as long as GoT was.
@Brettyb93
@Brettyb93 25 дней назад
Besides the fluffy extra crap, they are flying point by point from the books. So if you want to know why they drug it out you can read the foot notes
@TheKilopoo
@TheKilopoo 25 дней назад
@@Brettyb93Nah Season 1 covered about 80 pages of the book. Season 2 covered about 18 pages. The pacing is not charting along with the book.
@Brettyb93
@Brettyb93 25 дней назад
@@TheKilopoo I know, I’m saying they are dragging it out and it’s dull as shit
@haze1123
@haze1123 2 дня назад
Writing is hard. Few can do it well.
@dee-taylor
@dee-taylor 25 дней назад
Episode 2 was really good. Half of episode 4 was good. The rest? Woman good, man bad. Aemond's ball bag. Alicent is just a misunderstood girlboss.
@cryptopunk6336
@cryptopunk6336 25 дней назад
A lot of the women in this show are weak, conflicted, scared to show strength and scared to go to war. I wouldn’t say women are portrayed as only good in this show
@dee-taylor
@dee-taylor 24 дня назад
@@cryptopunk6336 That's not how they're portrayed at all. Maybe YOU felt like they are weak and conflicted. To me it is clear as day they were portrayed as having restraint, cautious, patient, and slow to kill others. The men were all blood thirsty and impatient. Eager to kill.
@cryptopunk6336
@cryptopunk6336 24 дня назад
@@dee-taylor The men understood that the other side had dragons and one had to act with haste to secure claims around the kingdom. But each opinion to their own.
@Twitchingeagle
@Twitchingeagle 25 дней назад
The problem is Raenyra does want to do everything herself but she's a monarch that's just not her job. Then she bitches and moans about not being able to do anything when she has a military she can order to do things for her.
@barbeeska
@barbeeska 21 день назад
Yes. It was kinda like, if you're so powerless and unable to do anything... why are we spending so much time on you 😂
@MrGforce52
@MrGforce52 24 дня назад
Another issue is that the paint the blacs as the good guys when the greens are objectively the good guys. Not perfect, but by far the better of the 2.
@noneofyourbiznis
@noneofyourbiznis 23 дня назад
You're joking, right?! 🤨
@melissasimmons4404
@melissasimmons4404 23 дня назад
Uhm, no they aren’t. In the books Aegon admits that he’s usurping his own sisters throne. Aemond kills his own nephew as well what?
@ronyahav2
@ronyahav2 22 дня назад
So you liked season 8 finale more than season 2? wth
@bospring5779
@bospring5779 24 дня назад
Waaaaay overhated. Yeah the finale felt more like a preseason finale, but that doesn’t mean the story isn’t good. The build up was amazing
@handonstark
@handonstark 23 дня назад
As a book fan this season was disappointing. Like even GOT worst season had action
@petter8166
@petter8166 20 дней назад
Do you would rather have a bad season with action than a 7/10 season without much action?
@handonstark
@handonstark 20 дней назад
@@petter8166 don’t get me wrong. I do not love the last season of Game of Thrones but I get it. The books about that story are not done. But we have the books of House of the Dragon done, so yes I would prefer a 7/10 season then a season literally nothing happened. Where every character is not like in the books where the story it’s so boring. The books make you understand the characters and hate them and love them. I’m just like they’re boring in this tv show. They have the books done is not that hard to follow the plot and do the characters personally as it is.
@NobleKnight9
@NobleKnight9 25 дней назад
Cutting episodes 9 and 10 was a huge mistake. Rook’s Rest was really well done and I think if we got the battle of the gullet it would have saved this season.
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
Well yeah but they got fucket over by hbo
@paulevans4905
@paulevans4905 23 дня назад
I approve this message....nothing happened.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
Although the critic of the season being too slow and leading nowhere, ending pretty much where the last season ended, is a valid one, I think saying that "nothing happened" is way too harsh. Daemon's stoyline was almost completely pointless, it is true, but the interactions between team green were so dramatic, complex and human - you simply can't look away! And if you truly believe that the 20 minutes battle was the best thing by far - and not for example Alicent trying to reach out to Aemond/ Otto realizing the mistakes he had made, and what he lost but never truly appreciated in Viserys, who ruled with wisdom/ Rhaenyra making Alicent face an impossible choice, and to realize she was also responsible for it - if that was "nothing" then I'm sorry to say Ben, but I don't think you were ever the fan Martin had in mind. I think seasons 7 and 8 of GoT might be more to your liking. Bookreaders know what I mean.
@zzhanz6912
@zzhanz6912 25 дней назад
I don't think the logic behind the storyline and charac. arc are all bad, but they took waaaaaay to many episode to bring them out. All eight eps could have been three and no one would find the pacing awkward.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
​@@zzhanz6912I would definitely agree that it could be shorter (or preferably longer, with a better climax and pacing). But what we ended up getting was very very good mostly. And I can't but focus on that in this case.
@spartanmuse
@spartanmuse 25 дней назад
Otto and Alicent supposedly highlighted the importance of Aegon and Aemond bonding together because, despite not liking each other, their family ties were stronger. What happened here? It was obvious to anyone with functioning eyes that they hated each other’s guts: Aegon kept on bullying a dragon, like that scene on the pleasure house and Aemond returned the favor by trying to commit regicide. Besides, the ending alone makes a disservice to the Greens: it has Alicent, who won’t be getting any Mom of the year awards anytime soon, basically allowing her friend to murder her sons because it goes without saying that any male offspring of Viserys and Alicent presents a threat to Rhaenyra’s claim. That was BS.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
@@spartanmuse I don't think that there was ever a point in which the show telegraphed anything different other than them hating each other, so I really don't get this criticism. Alicent deciding to sacrifice her son to end this madness was very well done and heartfelt, and played out extremely believable to me in those circumstances (for me at least). Why are you all so confident that you understand each and every character ever written so much better than its original creators? The word hubris does not begin to cover it, in my opinion
@Birdflaps20
@Birdflaps20 24 дня назад
Book readers are not happy with what’s happening, they changed so many things negatively. Daemon, alicent and rherya go through the same thing every episode, one had dreams and the other two talk about peace when everyone know it’s too late. Boring
@wrymehexin3885
@wrymehexin3885 24 дня назад
He may a bit harsher but that is the jist of it and Ben here is the only person I’ve seen who just like me can tell that Rhaenyra is a terrible person but no the season 8 finale is GARBAGE
@jamesthomas9005
@jamesthomas9005 23 дня назад
Watching Ben Shapiro talk about HOTD is infinitely better then watching the actual show.
@Peridactyloptrix
@Peridactyloptrix 23 дня назад
False
@finikama
@finikama 24 дня назад
Fun fact, it isn't the Hightowers vs the Targaryens but the one half of the Targaryens vs the other half. It's a civil war. Aegon and his siblings are full blooded Targaryens, not Hightowers.
@saoirserubio536
@saoirserubio536 23 дня назад
Yes, Aegon, Aemond and Helaena are fully Targaryens by name... but by blood they are half Targaryen through Viserys, and half Hightower through Alicent, no?
@collinmcgovern1017
@collinmcgovern1017 25 дней назад
Are you kidding? Calling Alicent more responsible is really dumb. She took her husband's confusing last words as something she wanted to hear. Deep down, she knew Viserys didn't want Aegon as king.
@noneofyourbiznis
@noneofyourbiznis 23 дня назад
👊
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 24 дня назад
This season was affected badly by a) HBO stupidly cutting two episodes at the last minute, and b) the writers' strike, which limited their ability to rewrite around the lost episodes. They are sticking pretty much to the chronology of events in the book, but the book is an in-universe history book (and a biased, unreliable one at that), _not_ a novel, so all the emotional personal drama stuff has to be made up for the show. The next season should kick off with an epic battle that would have been the big finish to this one, and there should be a lot more action generally. Remember, it takes TIME to muster medieval armies and march them anywhere: you can't just call them up with a mass text message and fly them to the other side of a the world in a C-17 in 24 hours. If HOTD (both seasons) are guilty of a generic fault, it's "femwashing", i.e. they're trying to paint all the men as evil warmongers and all the women as innocent victims of the mens' plots and would-be peacemakers to a ridiculous level. In the book, both Rhaenyra and Alicent are far more proactive in both plotting and warmaking and significantly more culpable for what happens. There are three books in the Dunc and Egg series, so no, A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms will not have to be padded out to three seasons: it's likely they'll do one book per season, since they're written to be stand-alones with recurring characters, rather than one epic story. They are, however, written as young-adult fiction, so if the show sticks to that, expect the sex and violence to be significantly dialled back by Game Of Thrones standards.
@ralphmtsu
@ralphmtsu 24 дня назад
If you asked me, they could have made 6 episodes given the material presented in the 8 given ones. HBO's mistake is not producing the full 10 episodes and then wrapping things up in a final season 3 with 10 episodes. There isn't much book material more they can do given where HBO has taken us so far.
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 24 дня назад
@@ralphmtsu Yeah, but marketing: the audience might have tolerated 8 episodes but 6 would have provoked an outcry before anyone had even seen any. As for when to stop, it depends how far after the end of the main fighting they want to go. Do they stop at the death of the last claimant or do they do The Hour Of The Wolf? They were talking about four seasons. It's worth remembering that these are VERY expensive to produce too, so there might be an economic argument for spreading out the expensive SFX-heavy events over more seasons and filling in with cheaper "interpersonal drama" and "new lore" episodes. If season 3 is also only 8 episodes, then it will pretty much have to go to 4 seasons. On the other hand, they could decide to quite while they're ahead, do a 12-episode season 3, and wrap it up with a short ending.
@ralphmtsu
@ralphmtsu 24 дня назад
@@MrHws5mp They have already hinted season 3 will be 8 episodes. They are committed to 4 seasons. I just hope they don't make the mistake of GoT with the last season being really bad.
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 23 дня назад
@@ralphmtsu 8 episode seasons 3 & 4 should finish it off nicely. Someone made the point in another video that they probably want Matt Smith in the final season, which means a certain event will have to be in season 4.
@Antoinebrownn
@Antoinebrownn 25 дней назад
The show is horrible!!
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
Horrible is definitely a extreme case
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
It's a kinda mid season but definitely not bad
@Antoinebrownn
@Antoinebrownn 24 дня назад
@@davidfrederiksen3185 did you watch the original Game of Thrones while it was still airing?
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
@@Antoinebrownn yeah and I have watched it many times I have also read the all of Georges books can you say the same
@Antoinebrownn
@Antoinebrownn 24 дня назад
@@davidfrederiksen3185 whoa whoa! I’m glad you enjoy the show more than I do. But I don’t know why you’re taking it so far. No I haven’t read all the books. I don’t think that is a requirement to have an opinion on this show. The reason why I was asking is because it seems that a lot of people who are defending house of dragons seem to be the younger crowd in women compared to Game of Thrones.. to me it just doesn’t compare to the quality of writing. The dialogue everything. The biggest part I agree on with Ben is about the characters. I do not care about any of the characters in the show. That’s due to the writing. Game of Thrones characters were so well written, I could name 20 characters from Game of Thrones who are my favorite characters in any show or moviewatching the hound and aria travel across West roast was more interesting than anything. I’ve seen in house of dragons yet.
@tmg7476
@tmg7476 24 дня назад
I believe Rhaenyra was miscast. Alicent is much more watchable and enjoyable. But the producers seem to have lost their way, and The House That Dragons Built behind the scenes series show me that their priorities are wrong. They are focusing on things, not characters, not stories.
@barbeeska
@barbeeska 21 день назад
As the older Rhaenyra she's boring I'm not sure if it's bad casting when the writing and dialogue is so dull
@KingSlayer_.
@KingSlayer_. 25 дней назад
I think they should have had 9 to 10 episodes and had the battle of the gullet as the finale.
@theminister1154
@theminister1154 25 дней назад
they wanted to. Warner fucked em raw on it. 2 eps, 50M.
@Robert-fx3ng
@Robert-fx3ng 25 дней назад
This was originally planned to be a 10 episode season.
@thomasseptimius
@thomasseptimius 23 дня назад
I called the first season "House of the Midwifes" and this season "House of Bridgeton" it's a show made for women.
@Peridactyloptrix
@Peridactyloptrix 23 дня назад
Someone really needs to explain to Ben and his team that “whines about for several minutes” does not mean the same as “destroys”
@alfonsovallejo2665
@alfonsovallejo2665 10 дней назад
I fucking loved HotD season 1, it was perfect in my eyes; but season 2... it was slow, it was dull and worst of all... it was stupid.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
SIGH... BOTH Alicent AND Rhaenyra aren't villains or heroes, Ben. Martin is always making the point that he is trying to represent the human heart's struggle with itself. To show the good and the bad in people, and the resulting chaos of their character. Both these women did some very objectionable things to each other, and yet neither of them is beyond redemption. Why are you treating this adult story like a Marvel plot? Is this truly the highest level of interaction with stories that the all-intelligent Ben Shapiro is capable of??
@ClareKlee
@ClareKlee 25 дней назад
I get what you're saying, and I can appreciate the character building, but I think we all really wanted more dragons! 🐲
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
Yes, completely. But if I have to choose between Dragons and between top tier fantasy political drama, brought to life by beautiful sets and props, tremendous acting and moral complexity - well I think that would be no choice at all
@Ahnjay_2k
@Ahnjay_2k 25 дней назад
This is not an adult story. This is a marvel plot masquerading as an adult story and hes rightfully calling it out for that.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
​@@Ahnjay_2k As a decades-long fan of the books and as someone who absolutely hates Marvel, I'd have to respectfully disagree 🤷
@KnowonKairz
@KnowonKairz 5 дней назад
You Know Nothing BEN SHAPRIO.
@AbegazNap
@AbegazNap 25 дней назад
Alicent is honorable, duty bound... shame those qualities are not appreciated either by GRRM or the show writers, but these are lefties we are talking about and they have no appreciation for these qualities.
@archangel3591
@archangel3591 25 дней назад
No. In the books she is ruthless. You haven't read one passage it seems.
@AbegazNap
@AbegazNap 25 дней назад
@@archangel3591 I admit my knowledge of her character is limited to the tv series, is my assessment invalid based on the tv series?
@danijeljovic140
@danijeljovic140 25 дней назад
​@@AbegazNapyou shouldn't judge it by the show, books are the source material, GoT was ruined because people stopped adapting book and went to make the story up on their own, thats why it was disney based tragedies later on
@archangel3591
@archangel3591 25 дней назад
@@AbegazNap Because of the lefties Alicent is this way in the series.
@nimrodsangero3753
@nimrodsangero3753 25 дней назад
Honorable? She is so bitter and petty that she clings to her mistaken societal norms to fuel her growing resentment towards her childhood's best friend (whatever justifiable reasons she might have had to an extent). I can only assume you are a Christian making this statement, and so I ask you - is your venom truly aligned with the spirit of Jesus' teachings? And don't you think calling a woman that was cornered into marriage with someone who can't love her, and who tries to find love and happiness in spite of that, bearing the children of a man she actually loves, if not necessarily moral in this situation (I think it is) - at the very least relatable? Is it not your professed ideal to honour the sanctity of human freedom and happiness? Where does all this hatred towards people who have different values to yours come from?
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 20 дней назад
Literally disagree with you on everything, except this. What a terrible season of tv.
@_Trojo
@_Trojo 25 дней назад
It follows the book.
@davidfrederiksen3185
@davidfrederiksen3185 24 дня назад
It doesn't entirely. But I'm pretty sure Ben doesn't really read fantasy besides lotr
@heizeking3557
@heizeking3557 24 дня назад
not really, they changed a lot of things, and they could've still made it more interesting whether they followed the books more or less
@crazyfx5242
@crazyfx5242 23 дня назад
The writers completely ruined a good series.. Also, they ignored many parts of what was in the book. Good Job HBO.
@ryankurtz5144
@ryankurtz5144 25 дней назад
Watching an ad for HOD Season 2 before Shapiro destroys it. Classic.
@shalim4076
@shalim4076 22 дня назад
If we remove half of characters nothing will change.
@Nobod51
@Nobod51 25 дней назад
Worth season finale 😂 looks like you haven't seen season 8 finale
@matrixmdog
@matrixmdog 25 дней назад
I would say this was a worst season finally than season 8 simply because things happened in the season 8 finally good or bad, absolutely nothing happens in the season finally of season 2 for HOD
@Nobod51
@Nobod51 25 дней назад
@@matrixmdog how in the world nothing happening is better that worst happening and the only thing that did happen in this season was blacks now have clear advantage over greens because of newly acquired dragons
@davidhaddad9022
@davidhaddad9022 25 дней назад
@@matrixmdog I would legitimately prefer nothing at all to have happened in season 8 to what we were given. Jon snow knitting for 12 episodes while Danaerys scrolls away on her iphone 15 pro max would've been better.
@joesmith4981
@joesmith4981 24 дня назад
Aegon did more then drink. He got crippled!
@christianbaker3564
@christianbaker3564 25 дней назад
Why people are still giving anything grrm touches a chance is beyond me.
@wKFaded
@wKFaded 25 дней назад
This show is far and beyond better than any other fantasy show right now and it isn't close. The show has its flaws really the last 4 episodes but the previous 14 where great. It is still the number one show on TV 9 million a episode
@christianbaker3564
@christianbaker3564 25 дней назад
@wKFaded Being the best show out of trash isn't a brag 🤣. Means you're the coolest kid at the Renaissance fair lol. Plus GOT season 8 got views too, and it was by far the worst part of the story.
@zzhanz6912
@zzhanz6912 25 дней назад
lol how is it grrm's fault the writers are trash?
@christianbaker3564
@christianbaker3564 24 дня назад
@zzhanz6912 everything that dude has created has ended up trash 🤣.
@eddiec2334
@eddiec2334 25 дней назад
I think that was a little harsh. A lot more happened than most episodes in GoT! It's building nicely. Stop complaining, Ben.
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