The irony is that the Israelis are not even the Semitic people. The Semitic people are the people of Shem/Sem, one of the sons of Noah. The children of Shem are the brown Asians. The white Israelis (and Palestinians) are children of Japheth. So they are not Semitic or not the people of Shem.
Because so many AMERICANS were kidnapped on Oct. 7 by Hamas. Did you not know that? 8 Americans are still in captivity in terror tunnels in Gaza. You think they should be left there to die or be raped and tortured? Should we do that if this ever happens to you? 😢 I would argue that we would need to rescue you. And I really hope people care about you, even though you don't care about your fellow Americans.
By calling it “occupied” territory, she implies that the land isn’t the Israeli’s and that they should leave. That’s what he meant by genocidal intent.
He implied genocidal intent, which isn't a proper way to debate truly and makes him look bad to the educated. She isn't putting words in his mouth, he shouldn't do it back. I do agree, that Jews and Muslims there will never co-habitate, in that region, but I also tend to side with the Jewish Side as they are outnumbered in that area as well.
@@GreyBeatlehe doesn’t put words in their mouths. The slogan sea to sea or whatever it is, means to wipe out all Jews in the area. This is genocidal. Hamas the government she and the others actually defend state they want to kill them all, not just send them packing. Strong words like genocidal can actually make the opponent think when accused of it. Some can have their personal beliefs questioned, doesn’t always work.
@@juniorbayano4938are u mentally stable? Have u ever communicated with someone from 🇵🇸? I have with teenage and people 20 y old. During our conversation they told me how everything is jew people fault and how they hate them for what they did. A lot of people living in Gaza are brainwashed and have a hatred. Hatred cause violence and plows hatred. My opinion - both of the sides are wrong, but everyone wants to somebody in this situation be right…
@@UGALEE1 It’s in the idea of tolerance. One day Muslims can knock ✊ them doors and say pay tax for living convert to Islam or die. It’s happening in our eyes
There are things such as crocodile tears, I'm not saying i don't sympathize with the children suffering in Palestine, but I believe Hamas is hiding behind the normal citizebs
Bruh such an idiotic statement ppl like you know think this conflict started on October 7th " if palestine didn't attack they wouldn't be crying." Firstly u used palestine instead of gaza which already shows your lack of understanding about the situation, so let me clarify there are 2 palestines Gaza and the west bank These 2 are both ruled by separate government, fatah for west Bank and khamas for gaza , we don't need to say " If palestine didn't attack they wouldn't be crying " bec the west bank has already showed us what would happen , like 90% of the west bank has been captured and illegally settled, and in the muslim areas ppl live under constant oppression , THEY DONT EVEN GET ENOUGH WATER FOR A WEEK Now did the west bank attack isreal ? No they were peaceful but isreal still attacked them , now I'd like you to plz explain how the innocent ppl of west bank are wrong and if u can that justifies hamaz's attack
@@sabeersid4645 given what happens when Islam becomes the dominant religion in a country? I'm inclined to say I'd prefer Israel to another theocratic authoritarian state that executes gays and tortures/taxes anyone of another faith
@@sabeersid4645 At this point, what Israel has is Israeli land, it’s been in Israeli hands for over 50 years, and 1-2 generations of Israelis have been born and raised there. Like sucks to suck for the Palestinian but we aren’t going to just deport every jew back to Europe at this point, they are going to have to be satisfied with the West Bank and Gaza.
I find absolutely nothing wrong with what she said. Treat people like basic humans. I honestly don’t understand how that means genocide for the Jewish people?
Nah, that is her point. He's highlighting that she's not being honest with the audience. What moron thinks that Jews would live peaceful under Hamas rule. These people are out of their minds
for real man this guy legit just talks fast and interrupts people to make it seem like he's right. would love to see him debate someone whos not in college
@@tusharsing5368 no he’s not he just talks really fast and controls the situation this is why majority of right wing influencers only debate kids bc they know they can’t beat actual leftist in actual debates
You are WRONG. How can you think killing THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Palestinians is somehow good for the region? Hamas is NOT all Palestinians! JEwish Overreaction, beyond any reasonable excuse.
@@MachinecoNY how many years has it been hamas shoot their rocket into israel? Every rocket they shoot was aiming for residential area. They are trying to kill citizen and no one cares. 7 oct is the last straw, after hamas has been cleaned up then let's talk about palestine. FYI: the UN has corrected their statements that Palestine women & children casualties reported by hamas are probably half or even less than what the true number is due to lack of evidence. They probably inflate their casualties more to induce sympathy from soyboys
What is she lying about precisely? She's asking that each human being Muslim or Jewish be considered a person and they all have the equal rights under the same law. Not a Muslim State not a Jewish Talmud State no apartheid every citizen has equal rights. I find it mind boggling since so many Jewish people hate the idea of a Christian state in western civilization they love the idea of open borders and multiculturalism but not so much for Israel.
She wanted all in the area to live together regardless of faith or ethnicity. He calls her genocidal. He can talk as fast as he likes - you cant gloss over that one.
@@Rain649 "A part of the world who constantly at war" hmmm let's see: Iraqi war was against USA a foreign country Afghanistan war same thing Lybia war against nato the army of Europe a foreign continent Palestine vs Israel war started just after the émigration of European/American jews to it and was backed up by them Every single war that happened in there was because Europe/USA aka the Democratic west
I agree her intent is actually pure and she would like to see all living together in and in unity, but unfortunately Jews will be completely WIPED or slaughtered in israel the SECOND They attempt a 1 state solution and open up their borders to any palestinian. The Jews chose life in this situation..
The usual "Apatheid" complaint against jews is your better point? Not one factual or historical argument that I have seen from pro-Palestine groups other than emotional manipulation
@@SUD7117 Nobody wants to put up with these chomos, what part of that don't u get? Invite these Israeli low lives into your house if you love them so much.
@@muhammadhussam9958Well, first of all Jews have a cultural connect with the land. Their religion (the second oldest in the world, mind you) revolves around that land, that land is an integral part of their identity. Second, Jewish people have ALWAYS lived in Israel, they never left it.
@@Nirvapit the Jewish people was expelled from the land that's a historic fact And guess what the Palestinians and arabs ancestors have nothing to do with it Do you think that's justifies having an apartheid state for almost the last century? Do you think that justifies committing war crimes against civilians ?
There is a large Muslim Arab population in Isreal, all of whom have equal rights and a better quality of life then they would in any Arab Muslim country, the same cannot be said of jews living in Muslim countries. It's hilarious that you think it's simply that Ben shapiro doesn't want Muslims and jews to live together peacefully when the only state in the middle east where they do live peacefully is within the borders of Isreal.
If you are an arab with Israeli citizenship, you have equal rights in israel. If you are an Israeli jew and just so happen to work in Gaza, I wonder what would happen?
Because they dont understand the positions of the people involed in the in this conflict. Hamas Is the most extreme stands on the Muslim religion. Not only do they want the full eradication of jews from the region but also gays, lesbians and all others who are not muslim.
@@926paaja do you not think there are certain levels to knowledge as well? A war is fought between armies and not army Vs doctors or army Vs janitors.. unless there are no army left in that country, that's when every able man is asked to join the military... He's just picking on kids and being applauded for it by likes of you.. calling my intellect sheer stupidity doesn't prove a point love
@@mohammedsadiq3319 calling someone love isn’t an act of kindness either .. bless your heart. Did I applaud war? No.. this is why people don’t engage in meaningful conversation anywhere bc people like you and the female student are so delicate as to have your opinions challenged. Then you apply some stupid label just bc a question is asked. War is a business it’s a machine… politicians and governments are getting rich off these wars. Innocents are killed on every side war doesn’t happen in a vacuum that is obtuse. And to suggest that someone can’t debate someone bc of their age is laughable. The colleges are turning out moronic socialist that have no idea why what who when or where
My men you are not in the position of understanding of what’s happening, funny thing is that Jerusalem has Muslims Christian’s and Jews presented and in Israel you can choose to have any religion or not having one at all. From other point, have you seen a lot of not Muslim people in Arab states, specifically Palestine? And if yes - do you think that they have equal rights?
Christ is king!!!❤ I'm Hebrew Manassa tribe. What tribe are you Ben. Oh let me guess you're gonna look it up and pretend like you knew for centuries, right?😂
She said she wants the entire land that Israel rests on. Don’t twist the context. Me saying I want all of your land and sure you can stay too, is neither democracy nor equality.
@@TheSpideyman1Israel had it's chance. They chose to become judeo-fascists engaging in a massive land grab for the master race. Time to replace the occupation government under a one-state solution with "israel" being relegated to a series of provinces under a single government for all of Palestine.
Imagine saying you want a democracy.. How's that going under Gaza.. Where the leaders live in a cozy million dollar mansion and palestinians have to suffer from hunger and poverty..
No she didn't at all. It's not apartheid because in Israel Arabs have the same rights as Jews and even are working in their judicial system and many other important roles. Then you have Gaza which is separate and the west bank which is separate. It's like saying that America has been doing apartheid with Mexico. It's just stupid thing to say because they are different areas, not one state. In Israel they have 20% Arabs but in Gaza you won't find any Jews because they would be killed.
@@beydonce763he is literally accusing of her of genocidal intent. He only argues against kids hes ridiculous, she literally calling for peace and hes there accusing of her this
@@beydonce763its funny how he clqims to be jewish but ignores the rules of the torah. Maybe if hed shut his mouth and acc listened to her then hed know hes wrong as she has mentioned nothing of her supporting any part of any genocidal as she said she isnt calling for any destruction of jews. He literally makes no sense. Him tryna talk fast is him tryna cover up the fact hes wrong. He makes no sense here at all. Hes the hugest clown ever. Id love to see him talk against bassem yousuf lmfao
No, you clearly didnt watch the whole argument, and when youre saying "he only argues with kids" everyone who were in building could have argue with him. stop with the bullshit@@g3_lden
The shocking confession is her accurately describing that Israel is occupying Palestine? Calling for Israel to stop occupying Palestine isn't genocidal.
Then you are calling for your own sui.. ide. How foolish. Sahih al-Bukhari 2926 "Allah's Messenger said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him." Sahih Muslim 1767 a It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah say: "I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.""(he wants to expel people from their own homes and country) Sunan an-Nasa'i 3974 "The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight the people until they say La ilaha illallah, and whoever says it, his life and his wealth are safe from me, except for a right that is due, and his reckoning will be with Allah." Sahih al-Bukhari 2977(muhammad says "I have been made victorious with terror") so thats why islam considered to be ter.. st belief. 5: 51 "O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust." Sahih al-Bukhari 4557(the best of mankind are those who put chains on neck to embrace islam)
@@kevinforget549it hurts to see, and what makes it even worse is that its come to a point where one side has to be fully wiped out for this *if we’re calling it war* to end.
Israel fought against 7 Muslim countries at the same time? If they didn't get any help, Jews would have gone through a second genocide. Israel and Palestine has been quite chill for a while until Hamas decided to send some missiles. I'm not defending on killing innocent civilians, but just think for a second. Before you comment, I just want to clear out that my comments intention was to bring some objective views on the table. I'm not taking any sides. Many people commenting seem very biased and that's very understandable considering that innocent people die. But in history, you should always try to look at things from an objective point of view because every side thinks they're doing the right thing and the other side is evil. It's all about the view.
Ben is never a reasonable one, hes just rhetorically gifted and you get easily tricked into his bullshit. He never says anything actually, and if he does its historically incorrect
@@ardez8674 they decided to create a JEWISH state within a Muslim country where they came as refugees based on biblical claims. Their intents are genocidal and not the other way around
@@ardez8674reading your comment, you clearly don't know the full history of what has happened in the middle east. Please first check the complete timeline after ww1 when the Brits were still there
@@DontKnow-hr5my I did and anyone with brains would understand that it would lead into gnocide. You would need to have IQ less than 90 to think that group of people who have literally yelled for EXTERMINATION of group of people for 75-years wouldn't just kill all jws if they ever got into power in that region. It literally even was on their website. They aren't there for peace, they are just failed nazies.
Do you really believe Arabs would want a state for Jews and Arabs while HAMAS and many other Muslim countries openly promote complete genocide and exile for Jews?
Not just lying, but he's so desperate to catch her in a "gotcha" moment. He keeps trying to put words in her mouth and twist everything she is saying because he has no valid points to offer. All of Palestine is occupied. How is it "genocidal" to say that? That's like calling someone genocidal because they stated that Americans are on Native American land or Mexicans are on native Aztec land. You know what is genocidal? Bombing Gaza without any concern for the lives of innocent people, including children.
He isn't lying, just distorting facts to fit his narrative. "Zero" jews live in the Gaza strip for the very obvious reason that it's the worlds largest open air prison and everyone in there resents Israel for it, not to mention the lack of jobs and total dependency on imported goods and materials through Israeli checkpoints (or through Hamas controlled black market).
@@dadaeverydays3968he's talking over the explanation of the women, she's educated and lets him talk. It's actually "she gets interrupted during the explanation"
@@cheeznipz8891 how? Please explain this to me; of course, using the definition of *genocide* under United Nations & ICC regulations created as due to the atrocities committed during WWII as your baseline.
Well this girl is suggesting that Israelis should peacefully live under a Palestinian government that has openly said they want to exterminate the Jewish people... so she's not too bright either...
There are zero Israelis in Gaza. So according to her claims, Gaza is not Palestine? There are 2 million Arab Muslims living peacefully in Israel. They serve on the Supreme Court and the Israeli parliament. What definition of apartheid would explain this?
@@user-jw2fy5nw6t They don't. I get that you don't know shit, but it's so annoying when you guys support religious wars and violence where you will never be in danger.
Put him with actual scholars and they will all agree and side with Israel. Isrsel or Eretz Yisrael (the land of Israel) was renamed by the Romans as Syria-Palaestina, so the original people of Palestine were Jews.
@@almightyatomic if we are going back to the era of romans then Spain was an islamic country as well so should a the Muslims start colonizing Spain? Palestine existed even in the books of Shakespeare he wrote during his time. It exists in the bible as well. Jews can go back to Germany where they came from
Oh really because every time anybody has debated him they have lost. What is there to be debated anyway Hamas want Israel wiped off the face of the earth and that is the only thing that will satisfy them so the only question is who will be able to drive the other out of the region and it seems to be the Israeli to have the upper hand at this point so I think the Palestinians have shot themselves in the foot on this one because Gaza will soon be Israel
@@almightyatomicand the USA wasnt always called the USA we should now evacuate everyone and give back the land of the US to the natives?😂😂😂 You people are so stupid its funny
He must feel really powerful debating against college kids instead of debating people at his level! Oxford isn’t embarrassing, Shapiro is just a coward. He was called upon to debate plenty of scholars at is level, but he’s just a pu$$y
Not really. At least they facilitated a good back and forth. These are university kids, Ben is Harvard grad whose job is to have strong political positions
I mean it is logical, is it not? In Israel, there are many Muslims. In Gaza, there are no jews. Would Gaza extend over to the golan heights, there would also be no more jews.
No one seems to understand what it's supposed to happen, which is a lowering of the Flag of israel and a timed mass exodus back to their forefathers homeland in Spain and Germany, where they came from in forty eight.... Any child can understand this but evidently their thirst for power blurs their vision..
@@oplars6487maybe because nobody wants to live in the place nicknamed the literal LIVING PRISON OF LAND. They already had it bad before this and it just got worse for them now
Yup this guys an actor and gets paid millions of dollars to be an actor. Someone who gets paid massive amounts of money to speak surely there can’t an agenda there
@@iluvmantu y’all do understand is not about Jews against Palestinians ? Palestinians are a different thing from hamas and they don’t support the terrorist group of Hamas since it terrorizes them as well, that is why Israel must win otherwise Palestine and Israel are both dead, Palestine is dead no matter what, Hamas will make sure of it.
Which seems to be muslims lately. Lots of antisemetic comments. Not many people commenting on the fact israel has missiles fired at it every single day by terrorists for decades now.
Trans people? Blacks? Gays? Women? Are you really saying all the people youre not allowed to criticise (non whites) are 'in control'? What a poor argument.
This is pretty misleading? Cause we cant criticize Palastine, or Israel. It's always a debate. The problem here, is that the whole debate is misleading. It's not about israel, and its not about the palastinians. It's about Hamas, who wont let palastinians know peace.
The palestinians are just as bad. Look up the videos of people asking if they are okay with Hamas hiding behind their chidlren. They are fine with it. The videos of people asking if they want jews dead, yes they want jews all dead. The videos of them asking palestinians if they want israel gone, yes they do. They do no accept a 2 state solution. It has been offered 5 times. The last offer included israel offering to basically build them an entire city at Israels expense. Denied. They just want the jews dead man. @@natakug1
How exactly? She's saying that all of Israel is actually occupied Palestinian territory, which means she's calling for the state of Israel to be subsumed into a Palestinian state and for the Israelis to lose their right to self determination.
@@francois853 Because the Jewish community who currently occupy Israel were given the land by the United Nations in 1948. Jews hadn't owned Israel for 3400 years prior to that. They were pushed out of the land by the Assyrians, who in turn had the land taken from them by the Arab Muslims. The Arab Muslims became the modern Palestinians. Israel was taken from those who had lived there for centuries, against their will, and given back to the Jews, who have subsequently treated anyone but Jews like complete shit since. They literally just became a Jewish Ethnostate who put Palestinians in a country sized Ghetto, which is bitterly and depressingly sad and ironic considering what Nazi Germany did to the Jews that led to this mess. Literally all these problems could have been solved in the UN in 1948 just said - no, you can't have Israel back. You can instead have some land in America, we have plenty of it. But god forbid the Human race make a collectively good decision in moments of humanitarian crisis.
❤️God promised that land to Abraham whose son is Ishmael and Ishaac, whose descendents are the arabs and the jews. 📖Proofs from Bible and Torah 🖌Suggested watch: "Arabs and Israel-Conflict or Conciliation?" by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat 💜All live together in harmony 💙Peace🌿
@@darkrain491 there were jews there before 1948, and although a majority arabs, not that many and they were also partly immigrants. What was said was essentially that muslims could have Jordan and jews could have Israel, much like India was partitioned. I think it's fine. Jews have been persecuted and pushed out of two dozen arab countries and Israel is 0.2% of that land mass, which is a smaller proportion than their numbers versus the arab muslim numbers. The palestinians will just have to move over and join their muslim arab brothers in the arab world. It's not ideal, but the world isn't ideal.
The Gaza strip belongs to Israel. There was no people in Israel until GOD brought the Jewish people back and made the ground fertile. Then the nomadic Palestine people came.
you are tick as fuck. Ok she wants a land where both jews and palastinians live... now who do the arab nations including palastine kill on site? oh yeah jews. So yes it would literally be a genocide and every pro palastinian would have a different view but i digress. She wants a fantasy land where religions dont exist and everyone loves each other and there is no greed. (its never gonna happen).
@@sirjacobsofunitedkingdom6845that's a shit ton of civilian casualties then🤣, if they civilians just because Hamas uses them as human shields, why are Palestinians in the West Bank, a region Hamas doesn't control, still dying to Israeli attacks? They just kill Palestinians because they want to eradicate them and get them to fully leave their land.
That's the art of debate, he doesn't want to get framed as stoobid.. so for instance instead of answering complex question he ask the most basic question to justify his point and run
First of all this isnt a debate but a Q&A. The questioner will have a chance to ask a question and the remaining time will be given to the presenter to answer it. A back and forth conversation shouldn't even be happening, so what you said is actually the opposite of what happened here. If she wants to speak unimpeded then she should have her own event.
You can't have it both ways. Ben was correct in his response regardless of your opinion of his tone. When the events described happen time after time, you hide behind the idea that its ok to do bad things if its for a "good" reason.
Palestine will never be free just for the fact that Hamas exist. They treat their own people like meat shields. Stole materials for infrastructure to make weapons. If you think Hamas is in the right I'm sure they are holding open tryouts as we speak I'm sure they'll accept you all.
Not really, she was implying that the entirety of Israel and jew population needs to be eliminated... or she wanted hamas to rule the entirety of Israel? U think hamas would allow jews to live under their government?
@@dimjabro people just make shit up as they go along , all fkn 🤡. What they are doing is fkd and they know it deep down. When they want something they will kill and steal for it . If that land was promised , im sure bombing and killing civilians was not part of the equation. Make it make sense 🤷🏻♂️ arabs were there first
You don’t see the irony and hypocrisy is you talking about a “victim” card do you? That’s tragic that’s what both sides are going to do, just like in any conflict the difference is one side is a terrorist organization and has been classified as such by more than just the “mean scary Jews” they literally say their intent is to cleanse Jews from this planet but look you wanna go live under sharia law? This is the problem with idiots like you, you have no fucking clue what you’re even defending, you just do it because it’s what your echo chamber tells you to do, you know why they literally only every talk about Palestinians in terms of civilians?(whom are given ample warning when there’s going to be middle/artillery strikes) they do it to shift away from Hamas who Israel is actually fighting you know the Hamas that hides behind innocent civilians(which is a common terrorist tactic so when they get attacked back and there is inevitably casualties, they play the VICTIM). I’d Implore you to actually educate yourself on a topic before taking a stance on it, you just look like a follower who needs so badly to be accepted you’d say whatever your peers want you to say, do you have any original thoughts for yourself or is your life all talking points?
Jewish used to live in peace with Arabs for centuries until the Zions came from Europe and the whole place ruined… don’t let this fool get you, and don’t be a sheep.
I swear this conflict has spiral out into a dumb war with ignorant people not realizing the full scale sadness that has transpired there. Neither side is better than the other.
Same here please. I've been hearing peace and plans to give (important) land to Palestine was attempted several times but denied.... I don't support Palestine because they want Americans dead.
I mean in UK universities everyone specialises in one subject so it could be the case she’s like a physics student who hasn’t done any history whatsoever since 14
@@krishvids608so she’s incapable of educating herself on the most devastating war in human history? I cannot believe you just made that excuse on her behalf 😂. And you gave the example of her being 14 the last time she studied history, let’s say she’s 22 now that means she’s had almost a DECADE to learn I mean she has google, she has libraries, she has friends and family so really you should keep your mouth closed okay my friend.
The Zionist reject the 2 state solution.if this war continue that offer would be out of the window . I also believe that the Palestines will win .because they have more will and less to lose
Which ideology? The one that puts gun emplacements next to kindergarten schools and churches, stores weapons/munitions/ammunition in/under hospitals, uses innocent people for cover, pushes gay people off buildings after blindfolding them and duct-taping them to chairs, kidnaps and rapes women, tortures children, and kills Jews indiscriminately? That one?? You should stop believing everything you read online, because you are being fed dog-shit.
Which facts would those be exactly? She's basically claiming that Israel is part of Palestine when the state of Israel predates the State of Palestine by 40 years.
@@francois853 some facts ben wouldn't like? Israel funded Hamas to split the Palestinian people. Jews don't have a birthright to expel people from Palestine, they aren't the chosen people. The entire world is seeing how much Israel lies and commits crimes towards humanity.
Palestine was named palestines by the Roman’s to lick the Jews that resides within ISRAEL, the county Jacob made , by trying to rename it something to reflect the Phillistines. Hamas and Hasbullah are TERRORISTS. If they weren’t genocidal towards Jews there would be some in Palestine, there are more Palestinians alive in Israel than Jews in Palestine under Hamas rule for damn sure
I think a lot of people forgot Ben is Jewish lol. His minds never going to change on this one. Personally I think we should kick both the Jews/Muslims out and Israel/Palestine and give it to the Christian’s 🤷♂️
Nah, he's pretty spot on. Hating Jews is baked in to Islam. There couldn't be a peacful "Palestine" to replace "Israel". Check out how the Palestinian Islamists indoctrinate children with their TV shows.
@@AkexAlvarezliterally all of his arguments are bs the only reason most people follow him is bc he was a meme, then he was the funny sounding guy who said stupid shit, then he started acting like he knew what he was yalking about so people just believe him as a refutable source, he literallh said the barbie movie making a joke about saying barbie is ugky now and how using margot robby was a bad example, he got nad and said "then why did you even write it in" bc bro cannot understand a ioke or any sort of nuance, he is legitimately stupid, the only thing he knows how to do is consistently talk over people so they cant get their point out so he sounds right.
