Benches Clear in Brewers Mets Game After Dangerous Slide 

Amen. All sports have been feminized in the name of safety and liability lawyers. Race cars have throttle plates to limit speeds, football penalties for bumping a kicker, baseball…. Well you already covered that one.

Yeah, these multi-million-dollar athletes don't get paid enough to play hardball like that. Better leave that to the kids.

My kind of coach! No nonsense! No need to have a discussion, talk feelings!

@@blahblah49000 LOL

yup. Even starting at my 10U/11U teams, I make my middle infielders learn to crow-hop at the second-base double play pivot even though they are protected with sliding rules because not all kids know how to/time their slide correctly into the bag.

Isn't that the play where Belle gives Vina a forearm shiver to him?

I guess you missed the part where they are enforcing the "cannot block the plate" rule now.

@@BlazingShackles I guess you missed the point of my comment. The game wasn't always played as it is today and home plate collisions were common. Catchers were taught to hold onto the ball like a running back and runners were taught to do everything they could to break it loose. That was many years ago when the game was a bit more rugged.

@@BlazingShackleswow you’re special ed

@@richardsmith2289 Sheesh, I caught a play at home and got bowled over when I was like 13. Did a backward somersault and was surprised that it actually happened like on TV. At that level it was actually against the rules, so the runner was called out. Anyway, I was wearing my gear and I was fine. It was just baseball.

Yep. Don’t think I could play today even if my body could handle it. They’d eject me every time. Catcher at home with the ball I’m running into him full steam. Sliding in to base you’re banned right I’m gonna make you worry about your health if you’re on the bag. Stealing a base? Ya gotta tag ma and hold on to the ball. Guess what? I’m making direct contact unless you are smart enough to be off the base far enough I can’t slide into you. And now days? I’m surprised they don’t issue bubble wrap and lollie pops.

Cry baby’s

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Throwing a ball at somebody is the poooziest move there is. If you want to fight - go fight.

​@@kurtinklern3262and sliding into a guy who isn't looking is...

@@kurtinklern3262I dunno. Hiking up your skirt and hiding behind your teammates is right up there in pooozie moves.

Where does one find adult baseball leagues to play in nowadays?

@@blahblah49000 Where are you located? Many communities have a leagues called MSBL Senior league baseball. Check for locations at their website. There is also Sandlot League Baseball which is more casual.

Yea hes gotta get that leg out of there faster imo. Legal but still dirty slide it looks like. I was never a fan of take out slides at the bases because of the defenseless fielder.

Terrible positioning by McNeil

Exactly. When I played middle I was always taught to not be directly behind the bag for this very reason. He has no reason to be mad when he’s standing on top of the bag and never moved his legs.

Just like Tejeda. Terrible positioning, but somehow they're both victims...

back in the day they played real baseball, not this chicken shit crap they play today.

Sorry...but it ain't like it was "back then"..you know, when real baseball was played and not this piece of crap baby ball that's played today. These guys are SOFT!!!.. but they are great at celebrating when they hit a homer in the first inning with nobody on. I must give them credit for that at least

@@user-ug6hv8uo1y okay boomer

at college level, that is the one area where you are not protected, so not good advice anymore

@@andrewme2245 that makes no sense, how is that the one area that isn't protected? Are you protected standing between the runner and the base?

Looked to me like he turned his arm around the fielder's leg to try to snap the knee. That makes it look like an intentional attempt at injuring him. That practically justifies a fight in self-defense, right on the spot.

Of course he is trying to contact the fielder-totally legal. In no way did he grab at the fielder. He rolled over to grab the base in order to make his slide legal (bona fide).

....yeah, good point----if you see my comment here it is basically the same thing you are saying. I am all for hard baseball, but I don't know that I could certify this as a 'clean' slide.

If by "the old days" you mean "pre-2016," and "vicinity" you mean "neighborhood," then quite literally, yes.

u sound like a hockey fan, a game where intentional injuries "are part of the game"..... Hockey fan: " if you didnt want your star player injured you shouldve dressed 20 fighters on skates, instead of your star player"

Dumb. He’s behind the bag. He was out of the way. Hoskins was clearly out, it was not bang bang- he did this intentionally. This style of play ruins careers. Hoskins needs suspension or 97 in the lower back tomorrow

@@lunardestruction and you must be a gen z softy. Not a hockey fan, but I was a catcher and more importantly, a big boy. The play was not in violation, thus, I’d not be whining like McNeil, knowing that the ones that played before me suffered much worse. Ever heard the names, Biggio, Alomar, Kent, Randolph? You ask any of them and they’d laugh at this play and wonder why it’s even a conversation.

… and all of them were on roids meaning they were psycho and could recover faster. Are you still ripping heaters in the dugout? Old man out of touch yells at the sky.

@@BoJackHorseman_eatshay your rationale is insane. So if you were on roids and your mental state was “psycho” your legs don’t break? Cmon man. These men are paid millions and are trained on conditioning and how to avoid injury. McNeil didn’t have the athleticism to get out of the way? Umps clearly didn’t find the play dirty and neither did Antonelli a former second basemen himself.

legal != clean not liking a rule != there was no rules violation

Well said. Legal by the letter of the rule but you know he tried to spike the fielders leg there. Definitely a dirty slide.

That's my take on it also. It's like Hoskins was thinking "How do I get the best chance of injuring the middle infielder while following this rule?" I still don't understand people who would rather see who's the best at taking 200 lbs at 15 mph to the shins than the best baseball players play baseball.

Y’all are soft as charmin.

That’s because you’re a soft pansy, just like McNeil. Was literally a normal slide, dude should have gotten out of the way, I guess he doesn’t know how to play second base.

@@stich21 I just want to watch good baseball. If that's too soft for you, why stop at taking out the fielders with slides? You might as well try a new variant where the hitter carries the bat while running the bases, and is allowed to use it to hit the ball out of the defender's glove to avoid the tag.

he did spike him

​@andrewme2245 runner kept his foot down the whole time. Made contact with the fielders foot. What he's supposed to do. It's dirty if you bring your cleats up to the less protected ankle/leg/knee.

@@jeff3388 runners foot bounces up above the ankle during the slide. I mean, it's a normal thing during a slide, but he does spike him.

Legal but the runner didn't give an inch on that foot contact with the ankle. Didn't affect the play, and it's a good no call. But if a high-school player thinks he can get away with it he's gonna get punched

He rolled over to grab the base and hang on to it. This is not even close to a roll-block. Contact is just the runner’s cleat hitting the fielder’s ankle.

The slide was 100% legal even *with* all the new rules they've put in. 2B has to get his leg out of there after he drops (or throws) the ball.

@@dentonyoung4314 you either support a deliberate attempt at injury, or you don’t. Nothing else to say…

​@@rxw5520 But do you support McNeil making illegal slides directly into defenders? He's got no room to complain... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-04Sj-W_oAkU.htmlsi=gflVFXO0Gj3Qz9Vl

Nah, these guys don't get paid enough to play hardball anymore.

No. We enjoy seeing the best players in the world hit, throw, catch, and run. Blasting into another player (and I'm not saying that's what happened here) means injuries and missed time for the players we want to watch. Changes for player safety are changes for the better.

That's easy to say when you aren't the one on the field.

@@beaneater2152 "Changes for player safety are changes for the better." Okay, so let's have them start wearing the padding hockey players do. Hey, it would be a change for player safety, so it would be better--you said so yourself. Here's another idea: replace bases with "base circles" that are 5 feet in diameter. No need to touch a base and actually risk contact with another player, just be in the circle. No more pesky "contact sports", just throwing and catching and running. Heck, forget baseball, let's just have individual throwing and catching and running skills competitions. If that's what you really want to see, then forget the game! Hey, it's what you said you wanted! And it's exactly that kind of nonsensical, no-limiting-factor nonsense that produces stupid changes like these. There is no such thing as sports without risk. Baseball is already one of the least risky team sports. But that's not good enough. Players are getting paid enough money for a single game to live on for a whole year, and modern medicine can repair injuries like we can barely imagine. But that's not good enough either. Really, this is the obvious culmination of absurd salaries: teams invest these ludicrous amounts of money into players so that they treat them as fragile works of art, only to be brought out of the garage when it's sure to be a sunny day with no traffic. Nobody remembers players like Cal Ripken, Jr. anymore. He played a different game--a better one.

@@blahblah49000 Should I even respond to your ridiculous straw-manning? Sure, why not... You fundamentally don't seem to understand how human language works. If you tell me, "I like ham sandwiches," it doesn't mean you always want a ham sandwich in all contexts. You don't want a ham sandwich stuffed in your morning coffee. You don't want to replace your hard drive with a ham sandwich. You like ham sandwiches at appropriate times and places. Likewise, I stated (perfectly reasonably) that changes for player safety are changes for the better. That doesn't mean *all possible changes*. The safest thing of all would be to not play the game, and obviously I'm not in favor of that. So instead of aggressively and ignorantly jumping on my perfectly reasonable statement, you could have started a useful conversation by asking something like, "So what are the limits of your statement? When does safety-ism go overboard?" That would have been a lot more fruitful.

I overeat whether I drop the ball or not! 😂

Players are soft, and so are most of the people saying it's a dirty play. What a bunch of cry babies.

Yeah because he should have gone toe-to-toe with McNeil and gotten tossed, right? The next game Hoskins went 4 for 4 with a homer and 4 rbis. Hoskins did the correct thing and let his play/stats do the talking for him. Hoskins won the battle and the war.

⁠@@XF3693don’t give a crap about either team Or predicting the future game just pointing out what actually happened.

@@Usmcwing here's what actually should have happened.... McNeil needs to get out of the area. That's on him for not leaping over Hoskins

Dummy wake up and understand it is NOT 40 years ago.

It didn't.

And a Mets pitcher DID throw behind him today, and got immediately ejected.

Because pitching at the batter is illegal. A hard slide in an attempt to prevent a double play is simply part of the game. He is supposed to do that (as long as he slides legally). There is nothing in regards to swinging his arm at the fielder’s leg. He does not make contact. He is just turning to grab the base (so he can maintain contact in order to make it a legal slide).

the intent is to break up the DP, not to injure anyone. McNeil made ZERO attempt to vacate the area/leap/get out of the way. If he had "multiple examples of Hoskins sliding dirty" he should have anticipated it knowing Hoskins was at first before the play. In the end Hoskins made a slide within the guidelines of the rules and was clean. Was it later than usual? Yes, but clean. McNeil should have anticipated it and made a better attempt to get out of the way.

If he was trying to take him out, then it wasn’t clean by definition lol.

​@@matrixphijr Umpire clarified to the crowd after the play that it was a legal slide...

@@positively_broad_st3780 legal =/= clean

Agreed! You have to be made at yourself, though! If runner didn't do anything illegal, then it's up to you to get out of the way!

@@matrixphijrumpires don’t interpret intent, it was clean by rule and letter of the law. I’m just saying there’s definitely some grey area there and McNeil has been known to use it himself before (at least against ATL)

McNeil wasn't spiked...

@@positively_broad_st3780 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭