Best Amp for Nirvana Tone? Mesa Boogie Studio .22+ VS Fender Twin Reverb | Kurt Cobain Guitar Sound

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The Fender Twin Reverb and Mesa Boogie Studio .22+ are often regarded as the best amps for Nirvana tone. But which one is better?
In this video, I compare them with different guitars, pedals, and even through a Marshall 4x12. I also show the difference between a Mesa's EQ being on and off.
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro & Gear Used
2:38 MESA About A Girl
3:20 TWIN About A Girl
3:59 MESA Aneurysm
4:55 TWIN Aneurysm
5:43 MESA Drain You
6:24 TWIN Drain You
7:03 MESA Heart-Shaped Box
8:17 TWIN Heart-Shaped Box
9:33 MESA Rape Me
10:29 TWIN Rape Me
11:21 MESA EQ Comparison On VS Off
11:28 Mesa Through 4x12
11:46 Twin Through 4x12
12:27 Outro
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro & Gear Used
2:38 MESA About A Girl
3:20 TWIN About A Girl
3:59 MESA Aneurysm
4:55 TWIN Aneurysm
5:43 MESA Drain You
6:24 TWIN Drain You
7:03 MESA Heart-Shaped Box
8:17 TWIN Heart-Shaped Box
9:33 MESA Rape Me
10:29 TWIN Rape Me
11:21 MESA EQ Comparison On VS Off
11:28 Mesa Through 4x12
11:46 Twin Through 4x12
12:27 Outro

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@mirata7748 Год назад

Mesa definitely has the edge over the twin when used with some grit and distortion in some songs , but the twin is a very open, wide and clear sounding amp when used clean, both sound great in their own terms. But the EQ on the Mesa really shapes the tone of the guitar so that's why i prefer it over the twin, but at the same time i really dig the atmospheric sound of the twin.

@eliaskaff Год назад

How do u find the clean tone on the Mesa 22+ ?

@mattgilbert7347 Год назад

The only answer is both!

@1977raider Месяц назад

Great job man! I have the Fender now looking for a Boogie- thank you for making!

@Toology88 Год назад

"Kurt only used the Mesa Boogie Studio .22 Preamp Combo Amp once which was on October 24, 1991 at Off The Record, San Diego, CA where Nirvana was This was supposed to be an acoustic show, with instruments supplied by the record store, but since they didn't have any left-handed guitars, the band ended up using their own instruments and playing an electric set. So the Mesa Boogie Studio. 22 Combo Amp Belonged to the Record Store."

@bigmuffmelvin7388 Год назад

Mesa definitely hits that live tone for 91 and on. The reverb I think is better for recording and studio tones Awesome video

@Batman3AM 10 месяцев назад

same i thought the same thing

@TempleOfUtopia Год назад

Mesa sounds amazing for both clean and distorted tones, I love how saturated it sounds

@TotallyNotTony_ Год назад

Would love to see a quad reverb comparison next! The Mesa definitely sounded better to me across the board

@Disorder17 Год назад

great video, it was interesting to compare! twin reverb somehow wheezes a lot. is it his feature? I tried to wind up the sound of the Bleach in Amplitube, even with different speakers, but it turned out the same.

@jq.guitars Год назад

It seems to be a blackface twin thing. I own a silverface quad that I'll compare in a future video, but it doesn't do that wheeze sound.

@lassocock7494 Год назад

Definitely going to look for a mesa boogie 🧎🏽‍♂️

@-cobainism- 25 дней назад

did you use the eq sliders on the mesa?

@Arkaitz.M.A Год назад

It all depends on what you are looking for. We know that the mesa boogie amplifier has a very powerful working range and that it works better with distortions. It also has a good clean. The twin reverb amp has the best clean with a bright and melodic sound, but I think it overdrives with distortion or at least doesn't handle it as well as the mesa boogie. In the end you have to come to a compromise of what you want. It's like choosing a single coil or a humbucker, everything will depend on the sound because for distortion you need the humbucker. Therefore the commitment to nirvana is difficult because you need clean and dirty both powerful. I would bet on the mesa boogi because nirvana needs the most distortion possible and that it works as it should but keeping in mind that the twin reverb has a beautiful sound.

@nunoharris 8 месяцев назад

Hi..Whats the year of the mesa boogie amp and fender amp ? Thanks

@Poli0619 Год назад

I am thinking on the mesa Boogie

@kakashunKi Год назад

I love how twin sounds in Heart Shaped Box, but in the others mesa is better

@Berisheet Месяц назад

What drive pedals did you use?

@joesmith908 Год назад

Great comparison man! I can’t decide which one I prefer haha. I have a boss nextone artist which I really like and I find it gets a decent nirvana tone especially with my mustang which has a hot rail in the bridge and pedals. Love your content btw 😊

@andiapriyanto1320 Год назад

do you feel mesa clean sounds like more compress than fender?

@BrunaHera 10 месяцев назад

Omg the Mesa Boogie sounds unreal, I need to buy one, fr such a fantastic tone, it's clean but distorted at the same time, exactly what I'm looking for

@brobchicken9656 Год назад

I own a fender blues deluxe and what I got out of it was kinda good I kinda recommend it but it depends

@__ic9651 Год назад

I think the Mesa sounds the best like you said it handles distortion well and imo had a good clean sound ether way good job comparing both of them.

@plutoniumzeppelin8164 10 месяцев назад

What pedal(s) did you use for this comparison? I have a 1970’s twin reverb and I reaaallly want to get that sweet Nirvana tone

@jq.guitars 10 месяцев назад

SansAmp classic for In Utero, DS1 for everything else

@ksn0p Год назад

I think Mesa Boogie better for Bleach era, and fender twin reverb for nevermind and in utero era I'm love you sound tone and you videos:)

@Maxhuertas Год назад

I want that univox so bad but my wife won’t let me buy more guitars right now, so I’ll have to be happy with the Kurt Jaguar and jagstang for now 😭

@eliaskaff Год назад

I have special request , plz i want a video of you playing RFUS Live and Loud version

@jq.guitars Год назад

I am going to make an entire Live and Loud video soon

@THE-CRT 9 месяцев назад

You should try about a girl on an SSS Strat bridge pickup maxed out tone, it sounds great and very similar to the actually version)

@user-zi9wg4tj4r Год назад

Good job mate!

@Nirvana_Replica 6 месяцев назад

Kurt used a rental Twin during Unplugged, rented from SIR New York, he did not use his 1982 Twin.

@elektrikstar_v2980 Год назад

Mesa is winner! Great video

@nbl95 5 месяцев назад

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was using both together. The Mesa has that "thrust" that I associate with Nirvana's choruses, but the fender tone just sounds so spot on too.

@watzup1013 Год назад

Great comparison! Did you use DS-2 pedal when it's distorted??

@williamcoolhat5438 5 месяцев назад

Do you still plan on comparing the 22 plus and regular studio preamp? I'm stuck between the 2 right now.

@jq.guitars 5 месяцев назад

I don't have a studio pre anymore, I sold it because the .22 sounds exactly the same when plugged into a cab

@williamcoolhat5438 5 месяцев назад

@@jq.guitars Also out of curiosity do you use this amp more than your quad? I also have a chance to get one for less than 1k but the mesa I think is the go to

@jq.guitars 5 месяцев назад

@@williamcoolhat5438 I actually use my JCM900 more than anything. But, Quad is after JCM, then Mesa.

@theDragoon007yaboiCJ Год назад

idk looking back i feel like you have used the twin better. I think it's also about how you use it

@jq.guitars Год назад

How so? They were using the same settings

@williamthomas4125 Год назад

I think the Fender sounds better clean, then the transition to distortion is not smooth or even. The Mesa transitions better, resulting in the volume maintaining an even quality. I think that makes the Mesa a better pick for this demonstration. Otherwise I think the Fender generally sounds more dynamic.

@jq.guitars Год назад

I agree, thanks for the comment!

@Henriqueleal0609 Год назад

When heartshaped box began on the mesa amo I thought I was listening to the isolated track

@edwaaard46 Год назад

I like the fender one more. When your amp hast a nice clean sound, then you can do what ever you want. It depends also on a lot other things like pedals, pick ups and so on how the the distortion is handling. I think over all you can do more with the fender amp.

@ozzy9117 Год назад

Fender has good cleans, but I like the characteristic tone of distorted Mesa

@indifferentuniverse3991 Год назад

Kurt Cobain is worth tone chasing. Thanks

@BradleyMcTaggart Год назад

I had a Mesa Boogie Studio .22+ and I never could bond with it. Twin Reverb wins for me.

@HukkitukkiUK Год назад

I’ve been trying to find a fender quad reverb here in the UK…may as well be looking for pixie farts

@williamdickson6485 Год назад

The twin going into a 4x12 is a tone i didn't know i needed

@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 Год назад

I go with the twin reverb all day

@douglasvaughn9349 Год назад

Mesa Boogie for sure

@PalmettoStateSirens Год назад

Clean Heart shaped box on the mesa sounded EXACTLY like the studio! I gotta get one of those.

@miseryparty3726 11 месяцев назад

Love your dedication to Kurt’s tone!! Wanna do this with Green Day!

@JR_Taylor Год назад

i like to boogie

@robotgoose225 Год назад

I just watchin how you doin that 😉

@michaelmcgill8104 Год назад

How come no one ever talks about the Fender Princeton or 57' Champ instead of the Twin Reverb?

@jq.guitars Год назад

Maybe because Kurt used the Twin, and not those other amps. I have heard a bit about the Princeton being used in numerous studios, I'm interested in getting one one of these days.

@baskah Год назад

Very interesting. I must say that the Mesa sounded best in most scenarios. Bleach with Univox: Mesa wins by a mile Nevermind w Jag: Slight advantage for Mesa In Utero w Mustang: Equally good or maybe 1 point more for the twin (10/10 vs 9/10) That would be my personal opinion. Awesome video, I would like to see more of those especially with the Quad

@user-zi9wg4tj4r Год назад

I believe that most of us agree.

@DaNooch669 11 месяцев назад

What I took from this video is that I really like the way you cover Nirvana.

@meckbetson Год назад

You want a good Nirvana tone?, you have to run both, Fender for the cleans and the mesa/boogie for the dirty = Heaven, or what's the other word?

@jq.guitars Год назад

This video is for people who are deciding on one amp or the other

@meckbetson Год назад

For sure, eyeing a Studio .22+ at the moment myself, would be very interesting to hear the comparison between the Studio Preamp and the Studio .22+

@jq.guitars Год назад

I had both, they sound the exact same. Matter of fact, I sold my studio pre because of that. The .22+ is just a combo version, so it's a better value to just use the .22+ into a cab

@luisr.c7099 Год назад

The Mesa sounds better and it is a great amp punches way above its weight class i will say a deluxe reverb is more similar to the mesa in terms of wattage and it only has one speaker so maybe that ,might be kind of a blend of both especially since the deluxe is known for having better dirty tones than the twin? Also the twin really nails that bleach tone

@robotgoose225 Год назад

Nevermind eh...I didn't think I could like the 22+ anymore but, I just did a little 🤷‍♂️😊

@kml_arf Год назад

Tbh there's something that makes them better han each other, I can't tell what is it but twin reverb sounds better to my ears tho

@jsullivan2112 Год назад

This was probably pointed out already but if not, Kurt used a rack Boogie, so the speaker in the combo is irrelevant, because he didn't have a combo, and the speaker makes up the bulk of the tone.

@jq.guitars Год назад

He did have the combo also. Check out the Off The Record show. I also compared this amp through a Marshall 4x12 in this video

@jsullivan2112 Год назад

@@jq.guitars Oh interesting! Thanks! Do you know if he left the stock speaker in it?

@jq.guitars Год назад

@@jsullivan2112 Probably, there isn't any documentation of Kurt ever changing stock speakers out of any amp.

@yaroslavgolub9475 Год назад

What is the intro song?

@jq.guitars Год назад

It's just a riff I came up with

@yaroslavgolub9475 Год назад

@@jq.guitars sounds awesome, is the tuning e flat?

@jq.guitars Год назад

@@yaroslavgolub9475 Thanks! It is in E flat

@namanable Год назад

which song it is at 11.30 ?

@jq.guitars Год назад

Own original riff

@namanable Год назад

@@jq.guitars REALLY COZ I HAVE HEARD IT 15 YRS BACK...SO I JUST WANNA KNOW THE SONG... :)

@jq.guitars Год назад

@Namanable I must've came up with a riff that sounds like an existing song. Not sure what the song you're referring to is though.

@jessielike2 Год назад

It all depends on the speakers and other little things. It's no surprise that Cobain used Twin to record Bleach. But in your case, Mesa sounds better due to a lot of different things

@jq.guitars Год назад

I compared both amps through the exact same speaker and cabinet with the same settings in this video, and they sound pretty different

@jessielike2 Год назад

@@jq.guitars Definitely. I'm not just talking about speakers but it depends on electronics and power tubes too. For example, I had an old twin silverface from the 70s and almost every month it sounded different, so I had to constantly repair it and change electronics inside🥲

@tomjoad8939 15 дней назад

I wonder how the amps sound not going through the Marshall. I think the Mesa sounds better, but maybe not without the Marshall cabinet

@jq.guitars 15 дней назад

they aren't going through the marshall for the entire video besides the segment labelled "through the 4x12"

@tomjoad8939 15 дней назад

Ty. Missed that. Awesome video and great wrk!

@tomjoad8939 7 дней назад

I was looking at a mesa without EQ. Do you think I'll still get that nirvana sound? Your channel has been a big help! Ty

@schpeidermann 5 месяцев назад

Check out Aaron Rash if you haven't already. He pretty much got Kurt's sound to an amazing detail!!

@jq.guitars 5 месяцев назад

He's been my friend before he even started making videos

@mariusroaldsen9834 Год назад

me using randall rg100

@user-wu5so9gu6e Год назад

It seems to me that Fender is more suitable for clean parts, and Mesa is more suitable for dirty ones. Mesa is suitable for Bleach, and Fender is suitable for Nevermind and In Utero.

@wardedrumble1375 Год назад

I feel like mesa is live tone and the twin is studio tone

@javiparis04 Год назад

Mesa all the way

@fastfrankblack Год назад

Does seem a bit funny fixating on Nirvana’s tone when he once just plugged his cheap dist. pedal into the desk.

@UltraZombie 3 месяца назад

That cheap pedal was aunivox super fuzz they go for a lot nowadays

@OwenInNirvana Год назад

The answer is the fender bassman

@taxationistheft2.0 10 месяцев назад

Mesa sounds muffled. Twin sounds great

@mattgilbert7347 Год назад

The Mesa wins with the distortion. No contest.

@theearthisflat21 Год назад

He only used that mesa boogie amp once

@jq.guitars Год назад

It was apparently used in the studio as well

@theearthisflat21 Год назад

@@jq.guitars Never was. He used a mesa boogie preamp but never a combo. He used a quad reverb with 1 power tube on in utero and this is coming from a Steve albini interview

@jq.guitars Год назад

@@theearthisflat21 I knew about the quad thing

@theearthisflat21 Год назад

@@jq.guitars Yeah. He used a mesa preamp for most of his after bleach career, (and courtney took Kurt's rig for hole after he died) He used a twin on unplugged also, and a plethora of amps that belonged to butch vig on nevermind

@jq.guitars Год назад

@@theearthisflat21 Actually a good number of those Nevermind studio amps were rentals. The Vox AC30 and Bassman weren't Vigs, but were rented.

@robotgoose225 Год назад

Basically any amp taken within an inch of its life, is the best Nirvana amp.. lol. Besides, should it really not be 'Solid State' for 'Punk'...🧷🤔😊

@XD-zl6hu Год назад

Smells:(

@JonDeth 3 месяца назад

Extremely well done. Even though I'm a shred, sweep and instrumentalist/metal player, the attitudes and life within the amps and pedals themselves was more than apparent. It makes more sense to use solid state for the punk/grunge genre for a few reasons, but in the video we can hear why many don't. You could have played just about any guitar without severely straying away from those tones and textures, but you definitely could not have used modelers and the wrong pedals.

@j_c_93 Год назад

Believe it or not, the clean channel of the Mesa Mark series is that same exact circuit as a blackface fender. The only difference is the addition of the EQ.