BEST and WORST Chaos Discount Sets - I Asked Chaos Marine Collectors About the New Release!

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Let's talk through the discount box sets and other chaos releases and a few other questions, and see what chaos collectors are making of the new release wave...
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0:00 Intro
0:32 Release Wave and Pre Order Times
3:19 Chaos Releases in Brief
5:57 Chaos Collectors and Legions
7:33 Best Discount Sets
10:05 Combat Patrol Rating
12:33 Did Magnus Do Anything Wrong?
13:28 Outro

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@nocturnal8171 21 день назад

I'm sure the 5 copies that GW print will be available for more than 3 seconds.

@Azhalan 21 день назад

You're the 'the glass is half full' kind of guy, I like that 😂

@margaretwood152 21 день назад

@actinium2754 21 день назад

A whole 5? That's GW in war economy levels of production!

@Grooviebones 21 день назад

I come from the future. They lasted a whole 10 minutes

@Swampert919 21 день назад

@@Groovieboneswasn’t even that, they ran out while I was checking out (which apparently crashes the page)… it was closer to 3 mins

@quahodron2756 21 день назад

The "a little bit wrong" part was really worth watching this. :DDD

@thefloatingcontinent9897 21 день назад

Damn I’ve never heard Auspex sound so pissed off

@auspextactics 21 день назад

Haha, maybe just a little jaded that this seems to be about to go like several ones before with sell outs and a few disappointed folks. Guess we'll see though!

@sleepiestagent 21 день назад

Maybe auspex being mad will be gws sign that they need to step it up I'd be terrified personally

@austinseneca2661 20 дней назад

@@auspextactics this is the straw that broke the camel's back, I knew it would be difficult to get a copy of the veterans box. I wanted a set, haven't bought models in quite some time. This is all the catalyst I needed to fully commit to 3D printing. 12k printer purchased as an upgrade for my current printing set up. I'm done. It's going to have to be an impressive scuplt that is impractical in resin for me to even consider purchasing from GW moving forward. They knew the demand was going to nuclear. But they are pulling a classic bait and switch to get people to buy individual kits. I'm not participating in the constant FOMO farming. Printer go Brrrrrr

@jacobramp3854 21 день назад

I play Night Lords and like the idea of the dread talons a lot. However, I like the traitor marine side of the army way more than the cursed/corrupted side, so I like the units in the other one way more.

@balambgarden1349 21 день назад

night Lords are Not just raptor Guys with claws. they also have the atramentar (terminators) and mostly legionnaires. so the veterans Box works too.

@jacobdominguez916 21 день назад

Vets of the long war for me, I never picked up termies or possessed, the lord is cool as well. I’ll probably sell the chosen and legionnaires, but they honestly have good bits for customization too

@Gurutronic 21 день назад

If in Oz, Combat Company still have the dread talons battleforce. Managed to get the VotLW box from gapgames right on midday! So glad Auspex gave the heads up on the time is AEST. Cheers mate!

@thebaldorc 21 день назад

Getting both battleforces but not the new CP. I did however manage to grab a copy of the old 9th edition CP the other day.

@bigjulie8820 21 день назад

I'm doing the same. I already have some possessed and plenty of legionnaires. I'll get a master of possession and another squad of cultists sometime in the future.

@Vortenger 21 день назад

Started playing The Purge alongside DG in 8th edition. I've added other gods under the banner and I'm absolutely grabbing a Dread Talons box.

@aaronsomerville2124 21 день назад

I wanted a battleforce but not at $230. That’s insane.

@EVER_PRINCE 21 день назад

I live in Canada, ours are usually 240$ with sales lmao

@Emann-yc7cv 21 день назад

That's normal price.

@Apex_Yonko 21 день назад

Paying retail or above during the release window is insane

@StigPrice 14 дней назад

Well, if you think the battleboxes are expensive. Wait till you buy their contents individually.

@chaosheaven23 21 день назад

Plan is to get both, but we'll see how that goes, lol. Ideally Ill pick up these, Abaddon, Vashtoor later, and big models here n there to fill out the army.

@deepfryergaming5690 21 день назад

Grabbing the Codex and the Dread Talons box, it has a bunch of units I don’t currently own. I was planning on potentially grabbing the Vets box as well, but then remembered price conversion to AUD is not a direct conversion with the current rates and can’t afford that 😢

@LordCrate-du8zm 21 день назад

I love how “something else more edgy” is a direct call out of the Malal fans.

@keyanklupacs6333 21 день назад

After finding out the jumplord can't join warptalons I won't be grabbing the dreadtalons box.

@Admiralkirk95 21 день назад

I was told that he can, but you might have to use warp talon loadout. idk

@EP1TAPH90 21 день назад

Id wait for the app update, remember the books are made way before so its possible warp talons get added to attachable unit roster

@TheCommunistColin 21 день назад

@@Admiralkirk95 According to the codex leak he cannot. But I hope they change that in a future rule patch

@Admiralkirk95 21 день назад

@@TheCommunistColin Both Haarkon and him can't, so weird.

@suetyhercules7717 21 день назад

Apparently it's because warptalons are supposed to be the jump pack version of possessed but the model does not communicate that at all. They're just raptors with claws

@chrisbeau76 21 день назад

Apparently, the new chaos board with the jump pack can only attach to raptors, I was under the impression he could also join warp talons…

@DylanScottDavis 21 день назад

Was on Wargame portal this morning and I made it to the cart before they suddenly went out of stock. I had them in my cart and they vanished. It wasn't even 1:01 EST yet. Not even a full minute passed before they were sold out.

@DylanScottDavis 21 день назад

Damn and for the official release same thing happened. But this time I made it to checkout before it went sold put.

@BoldAndSpicy 20 дней назад

@@DylanScottDavis Its insane how fast it sold out. Im even more surprised that Cardhaus and Gamerguildaz lasted as long as they did. I think they made it a whole 2 minutes before they were gone

@mtv1197 21 день назад

Looking to get into 40k and I was going go buy the Veterans of the Long War box. Got on at midnight and it was sold out before I could even hit check out unfortunate.

@superkeaton9912 12 дней назад

I kinda want the combat patrol for my Word Bearers. MoP, Possessed, and some cultists will go well with the previous Combat Patrol without too much overlap.

@liveanotheranime3526 21 день назад

I’d buy if they were smaller and cheaper offerings: Jump Lord, 10 Raptors, Daemon Prince Foot Lord, 10 terminators, Possessed

@thegiantcrow7416 21 день назад

Wait what? The exalted Champion is gone? Why?!

@distinctbutter9075 19 дней назад

I am extremely new to 40k ( I haven't even played yet), and I'm thinking about making a Word Bearer army. Would any of these boxes be a smart start for me? I love the demonic space marines as an aesthetic!

@ChrisPrice12 21 день назад

Given i use my Iron Warriors for both 30k and 40k, can't go too chaosy. Both are a pass for me.

@TheLordofMetroids 21 день назад

Hey how good an army does both the new Battle forces build? I've been thinking about starting a CSM army and that's a fairly full and fleshed out army by itself right?

@vintorez2184 21 день назад

Yea, it would be pretty good balance of units. Not competative by any means but, still good. If you build the raptors as raptors, and used the warp talon claws, you could easily convert the 10 legionnaires into chosen, and that would fit especially well if you were to choose night lords as your faction. An additional night lords kill team box, (or legionaries if not night lords) and maybe some havocs? Would create a pretty balanced but potent 2k list. Depending on codex points you may still need another small unit, or some enhancements etc, but i think its pretty close either way

@Mr_Waffle. 21 день назад

I've just got the old combat patrol but I haven't painted them yet because I can't decide. Black Legion look cool, but Red Corsairs lore is so interesting (screwed over by the Imperium and driven to become renegades), now that I see Huron Blackheart survived another edition despite being out of print, I have some hope he will get a new mini and I can choose Red Corsairs...

@fredericbilodeau6758 21 день назад

Was there spamming refresh on midnight. Sold out under 5 seconds didn't get either of them.

@snakeplissken6649 21 день назад

I'll get both battleforces & the combat patrol & some extra jump packs so i can do a 10 man squad of both Warp Talons & Raptors & start a new Nightlords army. It'll have a quite different feel to my current Black Legion one.

@ShaunGcq 19 дней назад

Does anyone know if I can still get the 9e one and run it as combat patrol instead of the new 10e one?

@risingdamp220gaming6 21 день назад

Prolly going to grab the Veterans of the Long War and the Codex if I can.

@DJRaffa1000 21 день назад

Grabbing the limited codex because I like fancy art (if the rules get outdated in ~3 years, then at least I have a badass book in my shelf) And the dread talon box, as I already have 10 terminators and I like jump packs

@Tulkash01 21 день назад

I’m tempted but I’ll pass. I only own the Chaos marines boarding action box so these two would actually work pretty well for me. Yet I have planned quite a large purchase of dwarves for the Old World, which means I’ll have to decline.

@runeh3022 21 день назад

Kind of odd, but with the new CSM Lord on foot, I was kind of expecting at least some suitable enhancements to his weapon types to show up in the list so that using them would not be a straight up nerf from the Daemon Hammer. Very cool models though to be fair, but I also hapen to think the Thunder-Hammer one is pretty nice already. A bit of an odd choice for a new model of the range all things considered.

@menagerbrzozy2653 21 день назад

I managed to secure both boxsets. With that being said, i probably bought half the stock of my local retailer.

@Ra13zRS40M 21 день назад

I’ve always wanted to try and make playable scenarios from the books so this is pretty much how I’m starting chaos marines

@badfrancis2517 21 день назад

My local shop managed to get plenty in

@commmarine9547 21 день назад

Magnus was a victim of circumstance. He has good intentions and tried to do right but his need to do right, at all costs made him wrong. IMO, he would have been loyal if not for the Prospero razing. Trickier question is, is the Alpha Legion loyal? Since Alpha is about deception, you cannot assume they are not loyal just because they are fighting with Chaos. The best way to defeat the enemy, is from within. That's the way they fight.... So....as the alpha legion does, they are waiting for the moment to activate the many headed hydra to overthrow chaos.

@lazerbeamhawkins 20 дней назад

Magnus did what he thought was right, he just went the wrong way of going about it, and screwed up Big E's Webway project. The Emperor is more at fault for not divulging his plans for Magnus, especially since Magnus was to be a centerpiece of the plan. I believe Alpha Legion started out as loyal throughout most of the HH, but in the 10K years since, they've ultimately fallen to Chaos.

@Griffodrian 21 день назад

Well lads, you had a good fair 2 minutes to buy the set you wanted! Thank GW for the opportunity to buy here.

@zap54312 21 день назад

I'm a big kitbasher so the veterans box is a treasure trove to me, but I already own 50-60 models between termis chosen and legionaries. The only thing i have in the talons box is a single squad of cultists and 10 talons, it adds too much value to my collection to pass up

@chronovac 21 день назад

The CSM Combat Patrol isn't bad by any means, it's just not as fun as the old one.

@isaiasmena7 21 день назад

The Magnus question 😂😂😂😂😂

@Science_Viking 21 день назад

Already had confrimation from a registry of interest that there isnt enough made, at least for some of the bigger 3rd parties. Little jaded as this is how it always goes. But you can still get the Tau box for the now more points expensive kroots :(

@chrisfrank5129 21 день назад

Good luck to everyone, my LGS only got 2 copies of each box

@furryferret111 21 день назад

Glad i watched this, thanks for the news. Im going to hold off and just get the jump pack lord on his own later on. Saved me a lot of disappointment.

@McFatson 21 день назад

One more starter set to consider: 10th Edition Starter Set (marines/nids) and a Kill Team Legionaires set. Hear me out... The Kill Team gives you troops as well as spare bits to help convert the terminators into chaos terminators. The Librarian makes for an easy Sorcerer. The infernus marines can be converted to noise marines, perhaus using the helmeted heads as "speakers" for the tips of their guns. The nid swarm can serve as mutated Cultists, the leapers can be chaos spawn, the big monster is practically a Venomcrawler already, and you could run your winged nid as a daemon prince or another chaos spawn depending on how you base it. The Legeionaries stand out enough that you could kitbash thrm as a 10 man Chosen squad to squeeze more points out of it. Lastly, the termia captain has the right base size to be an Obliterator, so if you bought two starter sets for well over 2k points worth of Chaos then you could conert the two captains. The points per dollar ratio is BONKERS and you'll have a very unique looking army even before you paint it.

@jonathandoherty9082 21 день назад

Sold out everywhere I've looked

@thatguytheraptor2355 21 день назад

That battle forces sold out faster than it took me to check out on Fenris Workshop😢

@Apex_Yonko 21 день назад

I’ll try to get one but if it sells out I’m fine. Don’t need to grow the pile of shame.

@KameradArktis 21 день назад

My lgs got one of each battle force and didn't even bother to discount it as they only got one

@91CEO 21 день назад

It's a hard sell now for the new combat patrol, now that they nerfed two of the datasheets in it.

@repentia1 21 день назад

ive not played 40k in years but feeling the pull, gonna see if i can get anything if not ill go loyalists. (edit, i did get them but element showed as out of stock the milisecond they were visable so i had to get them direct)

@abmoewe 21 день назад

Magnus was at least a little bit wrong, I heard it here

@thejohnnyblack 18 дней назад

9th edition Combat Patrol was better. The Battleforce boxes are both pretty nice. If I was just starting Chaos Marines, I'd try to get all 3 boxes. However, the only thing in them I need/want are the new Chaos Lords. So I'll wait for individual release.

@jordansedlacek5627 21 день назад

Dread Talons looks simply perfection. Every CSM player whos been playing for a long time already have all of the Veterans of the Long War units so... idk about that one other than being great for new collectors.

@Akimbo411 21 день назад

I was able to find the equivalent for every unit in both boxes on Etsy for half the price lol.

@HIWTYLSL 21 день назад

Literally no clue why but each of these is priced at $280 usd at my local game store.

@MalefaxTheBlack 21 день назад

GW and their never ending price hikes to fleece to people stupid enough to keep buying no matter what.

@JimH. 21 день назад

Your local game store is screwing you. Buy elsewhere.

@HIWTYLSL 21 день назад

I love the price changes the further away from home I get, 15 minutes away from my LGS is a Warhammer store with the boxes at MSRP and then 45 minutes further away each box is at a preorder price of 210

@joelwashere5382 21 день назад

Magnus was a bit wrong 🤣

@donald9377 21 день назад

In term of the 2 battle forces they are not bad if geting in to CSM as a new player. As both battle forces with the CSM combat patrol . You can have a decent 2k army list if geting the as a new CSM player for the moeny worth . As for the character's lot of them if you just use a legionare kit or a raptor kit you can save moeny and kitbash to make them . If you are a new player they are not bad to get if you do not mind spending the money for the models you get for about 1000$ CAN for me. It is good to see new boxes are worth there money for new people . Otherwise the boxes are not worth geting for people who been collecting CSM for a good amount of time now. Horus Heresy era marines are still a good buy if any one want to save on money for a 40k CSM arm if you are creative enough .

@knightsljx 21 день назад

I don't know what people are going on about. None of the past few box sets have done particularly well. You can still buy the Kroot and Auric Chapmpion boxes right now at a discount, and Deathwing Assault box was available for a while after release, it wasn't instantly sold out. The Ork box was also available for a fair bit after release. I even got mine at 10% off from my FLGS. Sure there aren't a lot of stock for them, but that has been the nature of box sets. They're not meant to be permanent SKUs, any sane business wouldn't want their limited run items to still be around after 3 years like the Dominion box, that means they overproduced. In an ideal world, all of these would be Made To Order, and everyone who wants would get one but GW is run like a mom and pop store, so that's never going to happen

@darko-man8549 21 день назад

i'm glad i don't need to codex because it's already out of date on points [sailing the seas]

@BoldAndSpicy 21 день назад

I hope I can get it at a discount store but I suspect Im going to have to go with GW

@davidcox6454 21 день назад

Definitely not buying. I don’t need anything in those boxes and non named characters aren’t the most exciting release ever especially considering you can just kit bash them

@RobJackJones 21 день назад

What do they cost? A Liver?

@MalefaxTheBlack 21 день назад

A kidney and the soul of your firstborn child.

@RobJackJones 21 день назад

@@MalefaxTheBlack atleast

@megapizzadragon2397 21 день назад

All of these seem inferior to the combat patrol with the venom crawler

@King_Thulsa_Doom 21 день назад

3D printers go Brrrrrr...

@tjthehobopainter9173 21 день назад

Would've liked the battleforces but 4 big boxsets in 1 financial month, that is just impossible.

@damnedLegion40K 21 день назад

Add a comment... Sorry GW, $500nzd too much

@joelwashere5382 21 день назад

Ouch!

@braddorcas9363 21 день назад

Ordered 1 of each battleforce. Local game shop got stock, and was able to get them at 235 canadian each on the pre sale price reduction they offer(would have been 275 each without). But i'm also starting fresh with chaos for the first time since 3rd. Grabbed these two, the previous combat patrol box with the helbrute in it a few months back, an abaddon, and 2 of the warpforged box. Probably covert a few of my regular marine rhinos over for chaos too since i pretty much never use them for marines anymore. Definitely not to the point where I still need 5 of them. But I feel all that should give me a pretty good running start.

@JanBaucke 21 день назад

Well, good that I placed my pre-order 2 days ago already at a 3rd party shop (codex, cards, dice and both BF boxes - and I got the feedback that the dice might be a problem but the rest is confirmed).

@QuestComplete 21 день назад

its literally sold out online already within first hour. codex collectors ed. this is dumb. as a new player to the hobby i just cant get one :S

@lemsylennair1030 21 день назад

Sumfin sumfin sumfin dark gods

@DJRaffa1000 21 день назад

"did magnus anything wrong" ... the expression i most liked for that part of the lore is "magnus did doing nothing wrong"

@niceasmd9890 21 день назад

LOL at 'Something else more edgy'

@Lewis-jn1ou 21 день назад

element games didn't put theirs up for sale before people cry saying sold out instantly xD

@NornQueenKya 21 день назад

Just ordered my Dread talon :>

@danielwolfberg 21 день назад

I'll never understand why games workshop keep leaving money on the table by underprinting these boxes. It's not like people like me who didn't manage to snag either of the boxes in the five seconds they were up are going to buy each of the models in both boxes individually now but rather just wait for them to release the chaos lords. Well done on another successfully failed box release GW!

@Michaelkayslay 21 день назад

Do you ever sleep

@MarcosGarcia-et1qu 21 день назад

Might as well becaise it's gonna be 4 years until GW sells all of their scalped boxes and begins selling jump lords for $40

@Bluejayount1 21 день назад

Magnus did nothing wrong. He was told to do nothing. And he did that wrong.

@t.h.2906 21 день назад

Don't ever give GW money. 3d printed models are waaay cheaper and just as good in modern times. Prirate the codices and novels it's easy. The codices are gnna be invalid the day you get them anyway and a new one will release in a year (if you're unlucky).

@JimH. 21 день назад

I find it EXTREMELY difficult to believe that more people play Vashtor than Khorne, Nurgle or Tzeentch.

@repentia1 21 день назад

they dont, but those gods all have their own factions/codexes. stands to reason they would just use their own book over the generic CSM one

@RvBnerd618 21 день назад

And Slannesh being second is not a surprise, they don't have their Emperor's Children codex yet. In terms of what the warbands worship, most of them are undivided either because they hate Chaos or sees using all four of them give them the best advantage. Or in the case of Word Bearers, they love them all equally.

@vintorez2184 21 день назад

I would absolutley love to use your element games code to support, i massivley appreciate all your hard work. However what little i do pick up for the hobby, i can pick up substantially cheaper via "connections". For example i managed to get both chaos battleforces, and codex, for under £240, including first class tracked shipping. The two battleforces alone would have cost me that much from element, im sorry. ;_;

@TheRainbowThief 21 день назад

Dude, when do you sleep?

@DominatorLegend 21 день назад

Buy? GW plastic? *Wheeeeze*

@kdhlkjhdlk 21 день назад

The bad unit tax is too high, as ever, to make the sets worth buying.

@WardenOfTerra 21 день назад

'Ravaged Star' is way too expensive. MWG's international pricing structure makes GW's pricing look like it was tailor-made for homeless people. £185 for 64 miniatures is insane, £200 for 25 miniatures is even worse, and a 2-player starter set with 32 miniatures for £210 is purely disrespectful. All for a game that has no lore, no history, is copied off of 40K, and is by far an inferior product? It's a joke.

@kaihoyen945 21 день назад

Five videos in 24 hours... You post a video per 4.8 hours... Auspex. Baby. Sweetheart. Go to sleep once in a while.

@sgthunt118 21 день назад

Buy a 3d printer and pirate any docs needed to play your game. Eat spit GW

@M0r7r3d0r 21 день назад

31.9% of your responses came from sons of Russ, so do they really count?

@MalefaxTheBlack 21 день назад

Boycott.

@bryan8238 21 день назад

Don’t buy it. Boycott GW.

@clique7386 21 день назад

It's the silent majority that buy unfortunately. I wish we could band together and boycott

@antond340 21 день назад

Buy? After all this woke BS GW done in the last month? No, thank you.

@clique7386 21 день назад

I'm sure you'll be missed 😂

@MalefaxTheBlack 21 день назад

3D printer go BRRR!

@bobh9492 21 день назад

@@clique7386 guess who has a terrible track record for not buying the IP they destroy.

@mikehunt1924 21 день назад

Who gives a shit, GW didn't make any of them anyways. This fomo crap for sets that don't exist is really getting old.

@davehultermans7238 21 день назад

Dude you are telling us so so many times about the live times and the shops you use. Please stop that buddy

@Sorrowdusk 19 дней назад

*JUMP PACK LORD* jumps back in?!

@margaretwood152 21 день назад

If I was GW (or a GW "RU-vid promoter" (NDA-infused _ShiII,_ let's be real ) I'd be worried about where GW sales are going to be by the end of this decade: when 3D Printers will become as *_ubiquitous_* as a PC & Color Printer in *_Every_*_ Home.."_ "We're working Hard to Keep Prices *_Down."_* It's _not _*_hard to believe:_* it's downright *_INSULTING_* to consumers with even rudimentary _intelligence._ ) 🤖🖨Just bought a 4K 3D Printer & Washing Station for the Cost of 2 Combat Patrols (w/ no Primer, Paint, Glue etc.) I'm done being taken advantage of by this *_Greedy Corporation_* that thinks we're Dumb Plebs who'll believe anything they say. 🤖🖨_*Beep, Bop, Boop.....Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*_ = 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖 (pause)