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Best AR Battle Zero?? 25yd, 36yd, 50yd, 100yd Compare! 

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@georgekirby3361
@georgekirby3361 Год назад
I’ve watched many videos on this topic and understand it completely. But this was by far the best example. You put a lot of work in all your videos thank you.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Appreciate it! Certainly there are a ton of videos available on each of the videos but I felt like my niche was a real world side by side compare of each zero. Really I just had a ton of fun making this one haha
@MissusDoge
@MissusDoge Год назад
This is a great video. Very well done. Thank you for your effort.
@rudder727
@rudder727 Год назад
Yes this is the most comprehensive video on the subject. Most videos just tell you what to zero at but don't actually show the differences.
@captainfresh1976
@captainfresh1976 Год назад
You’re the man bro I love my AR-15 This video was awesome. I’ve only shot a couple of times at 150 but the next time I go I’m trying to shoot 300 yards once again great video my brother keep up the great work.💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
@edgarburlyman738
@edgarburlyman738 11 месяцев назад
Didn't watch. 25.
@thefrogking481
@thefrogking481 Год назад
I can't trust anything you say. You're not wearing body armor. You're not rocking a oak ridge boys style beard. You're not dropping F bombs every third word. And finally, You're not using a 8 grand rig with every attachment know to mankind. Nope, not trust worthy. Keep up the work, new sub here.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Dude this cracks me up! I’m just a pretty normal guy out here trying to make entertaining content for RU-vid. So far I’m having a blast doing it and viewers seem to really enjoy what I’ve been putting out. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and hope you’ll stay tuned as I’ve got so many great video ideas in the works!
@n0tthemessiah
@n0tthemessiah 2 месяца назад
You forgot to include the mullet which changes this conclusion drastically, imo
@mikewest503
@mikewest503 2 месяца назад
😂
@nerfnerd36
@nerfnerd36 23 дня назад
Completely untrustworthy
@scottlubsen9004
@scottlubsen9004 12 дней назад
😂😂😂
@Hadouken5150
@Hadouken5150 Месяц назад
This has got be one of the best zero breakdown videos on RU-vid. Great job man, you absolutely nailed it.
@genorucci5790
@genorucci5790 2 месяца назад
Been an advocate of a 36 yard zero ever since I saw Shawn Ryan do a video a few years back.
@doubletapper44
@doubletapper44 Месяц назад
After years of RU-vid videos, this is by far the very best video demonstration on zeroing an AR. No background music, no I.Q. dropping profanity… just real world, well-explained data. THANK YOU!! Awesome job!
@blisterbill8477
@blisterbill8477 8 месяцев назад
I like the “lets do it and see what happens attitude”. It’s much better than the usual “you’re doing it wrong.”
@nickadkins7765
@nickadkins7765 Год назад
Fantastic video demonstration! Everybody please remember this is a 14.5" barrel, 55gr ball M193, with a suppressor. Your miles will vary with say a 10.3", suppressed, mk262 (77gr OTM), or maybe you have a 16", unsuppressed, with 62gr M855 green tips. All of this matters when setting your zero!!! Ammo and suppressed/unsuppressed will change your POA/POI if you zero for one specific thing and then switch something about your setup! Just something to be aware of guys.
@brazzy1467
@brazzy1467 Год назад
Since 2010 when I was in Afghanistan we had to verify our zero because we were gonna be at a higher altitude than normal. We had one of the Greeneye guys that does things at night with us and he showed us the 36 yard zero and that's what I have used since then. Great video
@davidfields5627
@davidfields5627 Год назад
We used 36 for qual, and I think Iraq, but once we got to Afghanistan we qual’ed with 100, but we were in Helmand closer to sea level.
@philplasterer1547
@philplasterer1547 10 месяцев назад
I am an 82nd Airborne Veteran and fought in Afghanistan in 2012. I am now gonna re-zero my 2A at 36yards. Thanks Brother. 🇺🇸
@michaelhennegan9637
@michaelhennegan9637 9 месяцев назад
Green eye guys that does things at night? The Riddler has an AR!
@reconrc1787
@reconrc1787 9 месяцев назад
36yards here, with that I use handloads / duplicate mk262 mod0 and mod1 rounds
@_Otaku-kt8be
@_Otaku-kt8be 7 месяцев назад
I was there in 2010 with 2scr if I recall correctly we zero at 50yrds
@matthewblanchard7823
@matthewblanchard7823 День назад
In my opinion, this is the ultimate treatise on zeroing a rifle. The graphics, well organized and presented examples and common sense make it the video i will show every new shooter i encounter.
@Skyzdalimit68
@Skyzdalimit68 Год назад
This channel is probably the best real-world-shooting educational channel on RU-vid. Simply spoken and thorough. Good job brother!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch. I just finished up a 30 battle zero video that I hope to get launched in early may. Hope you’ll stick around and check it out!
@Skyzdalimit68
@Skyzdalimit68 Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I really appreciate you taking the time to make such in-depth videos that aid in my training. It doesn’t go unnoticed!
@Red-wt4nb
@Red-wt4nb Год назад
I've always preferred the 36yd zero. This was a great explanation of the differences.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
You know I've always been a 50yd zero fan however after running each of these side by side I'm thinking I'll swap over to the 36yd zero. Really don't see many downsides to this one and like how it performs out to 300 yds. Thanks for watching!
@brandonrupp5880
@brandonrupp5880 Год назад
I suspect a lot of people do the 25 or 50 because most public ranges are already set up with targets at those distances.
@phild9813
@phild9813 Год назад
You have to confirm the zero you’re using with your rifle and ammo combination. It’s going to potentially look a lot different if you’re using 50 grain varmint bullets v. 77 grain SMKs.
@anonymous.369
@anonymous.369 Год назад
@@phild9813and also the height of your scope on your rifle.
@hrcjoet
@hrcjoet Год назад
@@brandonrupp5880 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jttB1kUXfJE.html This video has a link to print out a target for 36 yard zero for 25 yard ranges.
@mauriciodeleon8881
@mauriciodeleon8881 Год назад
Dude I started using 36y and it’s just been great, Shawn Ryan’s video was the reason I heard about it , then I saw Travis Haley talk about it , so I decided ti try the zero out and have totally loved it because of the almost mindless snap up and shoot center and hit targets out to 300 easy with just a dead center aiming at steel
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Same here, I first learned about the 36yd zero from Shawn Ryan’s video. That said however I was running the 50yd zero at the time and didn’t believe the hype. Long story short….. after shooting each of these side by side for this video I’ve decided I’ll be swapping to the 36yd zero. Really like how it performed out to 300 yds. Thanks for watching!
@mauriciodeleon8881
@mauriciodeleon8881 Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica dude that was a great video , awesome gun , looking forward to looking at your content !
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
@@mauriciodeleon8881 Thank you!
@augreich
@augreich Год назад
I just got done saying the same thing about the 36 yard zero...Shawn Ryan!
@bman7036
@bman7036 Год назад
Me too. Started using the 36 yd zero for my RDS and irons after Shawn Ryan's video a few years ago. The illustration of the impact spread for each zero from 25-300 sold me.
@beardly0121
@beardly0121 Год назад
Best presentation on this subject I've seen and I am coming into this as someone who already understands the topic quite well and have experimented with it myself. That said, I don't think I can recall a video with good quality video that showed each of these zeros at the various different common shooting distances. Thanks dude.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you! My goal here was to create an entertaining video but show exactly how each of these stack up side by side. Hope that’s the message that gets portrayed to the viewer. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@brianwatson3705
@brianwatson3705 Год назад
My takeaway from this , no matter the zero , you can hit close enough to center mass to be effective at least to 200 yards. Great work man !
@CrashRacknShoot
@CrashRacknShoot 6 месяцев назад
To at least 200 yards before having to aim a little high*
@sbhcmcc
@sbhcmcc 2 месяца назад
Travis Haley posted a video a pretty good while back on the 36 yd zero, if you haven’t seen it, it’s very informative also. Great video my man
@wde1978
@wde1978 Год назад
I can not thank you enough for putting in the time and effort to make this video. I have watched many videos where people go over zeroing theory, but you actually put in the work. I am now a subscriber.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Theory is great but there is just something cool about gathering real world data to evaluate how the theory actually performs. I've had a ton of comments asking me to revisit this with different calibers, bullet weights, barrel lengths and optic heights so stay tuned for more content in 2023!
@wesman7837
@wesman7837 Год назад
I just found your channel, too, and subbed. Great video, I want to see some other weights and barrel lengths as well.
@stinct1776
@stinct1776 Год назад
Great video. Looks like the 36 yard zero is the way to go for meaningful hits - 5 inch radius spread give or take - out to 300 yards when the optic set up is red dot or red dot + magnifier. With a LPVO set up the 100 yard makes sense too, as you will rely on your BDC for offsets.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Yep, 100% agree with you. If you’ve got a bdc then for sure zero that as instructed. If not and you’ve got something like a dot I believe the 36yd zero is a great option for shooting out to and slightly beyond 300 yds.
@badberttube
@badberttube 9 месяцев назад
Vet here, 30 years since setting zero on an ar. Awesome video with clear and understandable explanations and demonstration. This is exactly what I needed to get back in to setting up a rifle. TYVM, liked and sub'd. This will be a permanent reference in my toolkit as I explore optics and uses.
@dennishawxhurst8316
@dennishawxhurst8316 3 месяца назад
Right there with you bro! This guy is good and I appreciate his plain talk.
@bulletsandburnouts5596
@bulletsandburnouts5596 Год назад
Mad respect for all of the work this took to do. Also, great shooting on all your groups! People really underestimate the consistency and stamina it takes to do all this.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Sure this is a bit of “work” but a tough day out on the range beats a great day in an office haha
@KingYorch08
@KingYorch08 Месяц назад
This right here is what I needed. Great visual explanation!! Thanks Dude, that 36 and 50 yard are looking the best!
@gregcox600
@gregcox600 Год назад
Absolutely one of the best videos I’ve ever watched on combat zero. The application of reality vs theory really brings everything home. Great job!!!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you! I had a blast putting this one together. Always fun to see how real world performance lines up with the theory. Thanks for watching!
@dandetande288
@dandetande288 Год назад
Agree! Not teories and BS , practical aplications of teories, ...verry nice!
@hbarwickjr
@hbarwickjr 10 месяцев назад
Good to have found this as I'm about to purchase my first AR. I like the 36 and 50 yard zeros. You did a good job showing the results. Subscribed!
@alexsika7160
@alexsika7160 26 дней назад
Hands down the best video on this topic. Showing all of their performance side by side is awesome. Thank you for this.
@Nathan-zw7nq
@Nathan-zw7nq Год назад
This is always interesting because it’s a very nuanced topic but people assume there is only one way to do it. It all depends on your optics reticle. Some optics a 36/300 yard zero is optimal, others, 50/200 yard zero is ideal. For scopes with a bdc reticle a 100 yard zero may be mandatory for the bdc to work. A scope with subtensions in MIL/MOA the best option is to zero at 200 yards and setup a dope chart for 300, 400, 500, and 600 yards. It all depends on your optic and reticle.
@joshroten3997
@joshroten3997 Год назад
I have been a fan of, and running, the 36 yd (33M) zero on two of my AR’s for a while (thanks to a video Shawn Ryan made a while back), but it is nice to see someone else walk us through the “why”. Well done on the props and explanation. 👍👍
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! The Shawn Ryan video from a couple years back is where I first learned about the 36yd zero but it’s taken me seeing these side by side to decide to actually give it a try. Really don’t see a downside.
@abstractapproach634
@abstractapproach634 Год назад
12yd≈11m is easy to remember, 11m-12y=2.72cm(x3=8.16cm off at 36yd or 33m) 35yd≈32m is a bit harder, but much better 35yd-32m=0.4cm The best approximation in average AR-15 ranges is 257yd≈235m, 257yd-235m=0.08cm The best under 1000m is 908m≈993yd, 908m-993yd=0.08 cm as well but is a closer ratio with the longer distances. Yes I am a nerd, maybe someone will care. I'm debating between the 64m≈70yd and the 235m≈257yd zero. I am still practicing grouping at any decent distance so I suppose the former first, and once I am comfortable with that (and learn the holdovers, point blank radius, point blank range) Then as I improve see what I think of the more traditional ≈250 far zero trajectory. At least learn it, but it will clearly have a larger point blank radius, but also a further point blank range, with probable intermediate hold unders. Idk, we will see which oath I choose.
@levigruffydh6913
@levigruffydh6913 Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to put this together with such quality. I think I'll stick with the 50-200 with my 10.5 because it is not super effective past that anyway.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Yep, ultimately I think zero choice is dependent on rifle and intended application. If max distance is 200ish yds then the 50yd zero is a great choice. Thanks for watching!
@2Ajosh
@2Ajosh 6 месяцев назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I have a 16” rifle built as a GPR with lvpo and bipod. I had a 36 yard zero it was great! but I only shot it out too 100yards. But I do want a 25-700 yard rifle so would 36 even be the same past 300? Yards
@stephenkidder8876
@stephenkidder8876 10 месяцев назад
This was the best actual demonstration of zero ranges I've seen yet. Thanks for making it and sharing. I'm running a red dot with a 50yd zero but I'm getting ready to sight in a new AR with a LPVO. This is extremely helpful. Kudos 👏
@charlesbaldassano4793
@charlesbaldassano4793 5 месяцев назад
Bust gun video I’ve seen in a while! I learned a ton, thank you! Please do .308 next!
@Ferrari_M5
@Ferrari_M5 Год назад
Great demonstration of the different zero options. A lot of people talk about it but I have not seen anyone take the time to zero the rifle every time and actually shoot them all like this. Appreciate your time putting this video together for us!
@gmania69
@gmania69 10 месяцев назад
This was by far one of the most well thought out and executed videos on the theory of zeroing. Being former LE I like the 36 yard zero. It is effective in real world scenarios of enhanced battle tactics. You can go from close quarter and clearing buildings to longer range open LOS active shooter situations. BTW, love your property. Great place to explore your carbine capabilities.
@cav4353
@cav4353 Год назад
You're the first I've seen to do this from A-Z and keep it real. Your methods, rifle and ammo work well. Good job!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you! Had a ton of fun making this one! Ultimately my goal here was to see how real world performance matches up with theory. Seems like this is constantly a topic of conversation so hopefully this video can be a reference point for folks trying to decide which zero makes the most sense for them. Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@learningCountry
@learningCountry Год назад
great video. I learned about the 36 yard zero in theory. Great to see an actual display of the differences in zeros.
@jonzack3882
@jonzack3882 Год назад
I started running a 36 yard zero after watching Shawn Ryan explain why he used it claiming that from 25 -300 yards the impacts would be within a 5 inch circle which would be very much minute of man. I could only shoot to ,200 yards at my gun club here in southwest Pennsylvania. Great video. Found your channel thanks to Texas plinking.
@sebastianerickson9529
@sebastianerickson9529 4 месяца назад
Dude you’re a godsend😂 so many videos on this stuff and I’m a quick learner but I swear everything was in one ear out the other until your video!
@bill5274
@bill5274 11 месяцев назад
man, this was most helpful understanding different zero distances the way you explained very well thought out and executed! Big Props to you
@w_stew8912
@w_stew8912 Год назад
This was an excellent demonstration. I’ve been running the 36 yard zero for a while and I feel pretty confident that I made the right choice.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
After running each of these side by side for this video, i tend to agree with you. I'm planning to swap over from my current 50yd zero to a 36yd zero as a result of this test haha
@shockashoota
@shockashoota Год назад
The thing I like about 50-200 for me is everything is very tight to 200 . Then as you get further out you need to aim high . My instinct naturally corrects for that . However it’s odd for me to hold low inside of 200 that the 36 yard calls for . But like you said it’s worth exploring .
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Certainly a bit off to have to hold low but the intended purpose is to be able to rapidly engage “generous” targets. Rather than thinking about holding low with the 36 yd zero, I just think about trying to hold center and trust the ballistics will do their job and allow me to connect on something like a torso. For sure give it a try if you haven’t before. Thanks for watching!
@nenadg3665
@nenadg3665 8 месяцев назад
From my point, 50-200 is better. I don't like the idea that I'm little bit zeroed and then I need to correct and then again I'm ok. If we're talking about battle zero, my point is that level of stress is inversely proportional of distance to threat so until 200, you don't have to worry about anything, put a crosshair in the middle of center of the mass and pull the trigger. Above 200, you have some time to use your reticle. 36 yard zero would be better for iron sights because it gives you more controlled distance but with some scope and reticle to calculate the drop, 50-200 is better.
@-I-Use-Punctuation
@-I-Use-Punctuation 8 месяцев назад
I'm loving the 50-200 yard as well. I think it's a great compromise for an Unmagnified optic like a red dot
@Mangrove-pd7hx
@Mangrove-pd7hx 2 месяца назад
Every now and then you come across a channel that will change everything. How you do not have 1MIL followers is beyond me. By far the best channel to understand shooting. Thank You Sir for all the work.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica 2 месяца назад
Appreciate the compliments and support! The channel is seeing consistent and solid growth which I’m very thankful for. Lots of exciting new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned and share word about the channel when you can!
@hardcoretrout
@hardcoretrout 14 дней назад
Thanks for a great demonstration that is easy to understand and applicable to real world shooting....and the channel name is the BEST.
@taylorergle6308
@taylorergle6308 Год назад
Man awesome to be able to see these theories in practice! Definitely going to be handy knowledge to keep in mind before dialing in that next optic!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Theory is cool but real world performance is what matters! Super fun to be able to run these side by side and see exactly how they compare!
@davidmilisock5200
@davidmilisock5200 Год назад
The advantage of the 25 and 36 yard zero is fast action hits at varied ranges out to about 400 yards. Great video.
@DingaReloading
@DingaReloading Год назад
My range has 25, 50, 75, 100 and 200. I always zeroed at 100 and had great experience, but have not yet moved on to the 200 yard (or backwards or that matter haha)...Loved the explanation and being able to see the results through practice not just theory. Keep up the great work! going to send some lead down some of the other distances after watching this.
@derrick9605
@derrick9605 5 месяцев назад
This video deserves a lot more views. I've never seen anyone put together such a comprehensive lesson on the different points of impact at so many different yardages.
@pacanis
@pacanis 2 месяца назад
I'm not going to read through 2500 comments, but I can already hear the, What bullet, What velocity, What twist rate, What was your position in terms of sea level, comments in my head. This "real world" (as you said) approach is probably one of the best videos I've seen here. And you were actually man enough to shoot paper and not simply "ring steel" and call a hit good. Kudos to you. Oh wait. Did I miss all the in video pimping for sponsors? Man! I love this channel. Old school for sure. Just a guy enjoying what he's doing and presenting it to others.
@IJDBREEZY
@IJDBREEZY Год назад
Underrated video especially for people who are new to rifles or just want a better overall understanding 🤘🏴‍☠️ great job
@jefflemaster2850
@jefflemaster2850 10 месяцев назад
By far one of the best videos on this topic. Thanks for the work you put into this! It would be interesting to see how barrel length effects poa/ poi at various zeros.
@CTGromer
@CTGromer 8 месяцев назад
This video was outstanding. Minimal fluff, and mostly showing bullet rise and drop in action at all the popular "zeros". Thank you for taking the time!
@Econolinebus
@Econolinebus 5 месяцев назад
These zeros are all viable and each has their attributes. You put them all on display. Very good content, brother.
@truckingbastard
@truckingbastard Год назад
I’ve been a fan of the 36 yd zero ever since I saw Shawn Ryan’s video on it. This video not only supports everything stated in his, but also defines the differences extremely well. Will be showing this vid to others. Nice work. 👍🏻
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Yep the Shawn Ryan video does a great job of explaining the theory. My hope with this one is to provide some real world data for each zero. Always cool to see how the real world performance matches up with the theory. Thank you for the support!
@julikocaribe1982
@julikocaribe1982 Год назад
Travis Haley ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DFbpjNh4DBA.html
@03JP17
@03JP17 11 месяцев назад
One of the best videos out there I’ve seen in this topic. Great work man!
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP 10 месяцев назад
Very thorough and illustrative demonstration. Thank you! The 36 yd. zero seems to be the best "battle zero" choice. Center mass hold out to 300 yards. The 25 yard zero also works great. Shooters should be aware that if the scope's line of sight is slightly higher than iron sights, results could vary, but probably not enough to make a difference for a "battle zero".
@2Ajosh
@2Ajosh 6 месяцев назад
36 yards out to 300 is the best but what is the hold over from 400-600 that’s what I’d like to see
@garyK.45ACP
@garyK.45ACP 6 месяцев назад
@@2Ajosh That's what the BDC in the rear sight is for. In theory, anyway. That's where you "dial up" using the elevation wheel, up to 600 on the carbine/detachable carry handle sight and 800 on the A2 rifle sight
@liamhernandez9329
@liamhernandez9329 Год назад
I have gotten into AR shooting a lot more recently. Out of the videos I’ve watched this has been the most informative. Thanks for spending all the time to bring us this content!
@DJSmith67
@DJSmith67 Год назад
Great video! Have been a fan of the 36-yard zero for some time. First heard it championed by Travis Haley years ago. Appreciate the effort you put into this.
@nockzilla
@nockzilla Месяц назад
Dude, thank you SO much. Fairly new gun owner here who is a dad just wanting to protect family life, limb, and property. Running a mid-level AR with 556 ammo and a 9mm PCC both 16 inch barrels and standard red dots on both and I’ve only had 25 yards to work with over the last 4-5 months shooting regularly. I noticed I would have my zero at 10, then lose it a bit at 15 - 25 and I wasn’t quite understanding how I should be approaching the zero thing. I thought I must have been missing something, but your video just confirmed my suspicions and most importantly WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT! I’m not looking to win any Olympic shooting competitions any time soon, but if I’m going to have these weapons I want to be deadly and affective with them. Thank you so much man for taking the time to create this video
@TylerKTanaka
@TylerKTanaka 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the hard work on this vid 🙌🏻 Excellent to see them shot side by side. Well done. And this reinforces the 36 yard zero. Especially since I can zero it with an adjusted target at a 25 yard indoor range.
@augreich
@augreich Год назад
You did an outstanding job of explaining theory vs. real world. As many of the other commenters stated, I already understood this but have never seen it presented so well as you've done. The 36 yard zero is my preferred zero. For whatever reason the 36 yard zero isn't talked about enough. I learned it from Sean Ryan (Vigilance Elite) back when he did this type of content. Also I subscribed to your channel and hope you keep putting out quality content.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Shawn Ryan’s video is where I first heard of the 36yd zero as well. That said though I didn’t believe the hype and continued running the 50 yd zero. After running each of these side by side though I’m planning to swap from 50 to 36, really can’t see any major drawbacks with this swap. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
@michaelarcangel3694
@michaelarcangel3694 Год назад
Thanks for putting out really good information on the question everyone asks! I've used the 36 yard zero for almost a couple years now, moving from the 50. I'm not a precision shooter and my carbine is built for real world defensive encounters, so I like that my POA/POI is really close without worrying about different holds at any distance under 300.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
You know I’ve run the 50/200 for years however after making this video and running things side by side I’m thinking I’ll transition to the 36yd zero. Really don’t see a downside to it.
@woodsghost9088
@woodsghost9088 Год назад
I think the issues arise at the 150, 200, and 250 marks. Being a bit high over the target and forcing shooters to think "do I shoot high or low in this situation?"
@michaelarcangel3694
@michaelarcangel3694 Год назад
@@woodsghost9088 impact at those distances should fall somewhere within 4 inches high of point of aim. Adjusting poa to slightly lower should compensate for that, but I believe the idea was to have a zero that would allow effective hits from 25 to 300, all impacting within approx. 6 inches without changing poa.
@woodsghost9088
@woodsghost9088 Год назад
Thanks. Reid Heinrich has argued that experience shows humans adjust to uncertain situations and make hits better when using the 100y zero because it is more intuitive. Which you may not be one of those "typical" humans. I'm about to goof around with M193 with 2 rifles zeroed at 50 and 100 and see what I think of performance at 150 and 200, and maybe 250. I'll stick with whatever I like better. I have been getting issues when shooting deer. With maybe 12 inches of impact zone (height wise) and maybe 6-8 inches of actual usable target zone due to the need for hitting 2 lungs (gotta hit the visible portion of the critter and get the round out the other side while hitting important stuff and missing the guts). For me this has translated into a questioning of logic on defensive guns used at 150/200/250/300. In short, Reid identified the issue of struggling through high/low bullet trajectory under stress causing misses and I think I have experienced that with deer. And looking at using a rifle defensively at longer range, do I expect to be hitting targets with a full 12 inches of exposed impact area? No I don't. I expect maybe 6 inches of exposed target area and maybe less. Based on previous target behavior. Defensive use of weapons means a highly dynamic situation with limited target exposure for limited time windows. Or "a squirrely furball of chaos." So if one is aiming at the smaller target there is greater risk of the round missing because it is over or under the target (likely over). So I'm edging towards a simpler zero with less to know or figure out when dealing with a 6 inch target at extended range. (If it's over 150y, aim a little high, and learn the holdovers). I'm not saying you have to change what you do. I'm just sharing what has gone through my head based on my experiences and listening to some other more experienced people. I haven't yet settled on what I'm going to do. But at least now you know some of the real world issues I have been dealing with and trying to resolve with the right zero.
@andrewulrich6612
@andrewulrich6612 11 месяцев назад
Its quite interesting understanding the purpose of these various zeros and their context. We are talking about combat hits, as opposed to precision accuracy. You would be using something mil based on a DMR or PR gun and then probably something in a different caliber.
@notmyrealname2.0
@notmyrealname2.0 Год назад
As someone just getting into shooting, this is really valuable information. It was useful to see the general principle of the bullet's flight along with actual examples for various zeros. Thanks for a great video and breakdown.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it! I actually just finished filming a 308 version of this which I hope to get out in early May. Hope you’ll stick around and check it out!
@user-uw6rt1zs2f
@user-uw6rt1zs2f 7 месяцев назад
With all the technology advances in optics today most people have never heard of such a thing. In the hunting world i call it max point blank range. I uave been using this method for years while deer hunting. I use the 25 yard method with duplex style scopes. A deer has and vital area about 10in to 12in so your max point blank range . Is t GG e distance that the bullet is 5in to 6in below point of aim when holding center mass. I real do my best to keep shots inside that 300 yards but hunting has no rules for when and where the deer will show up. I put all my hunting rifles on paper out to 600 yards just to have the data. But the last few years i have picked up a few vortex optics that i now zero at 100 yards. Then i put them on paper buy using the mill dots for hold overs. Great video and good look calling out the 25yard zero point of impact at 200 yards. I know guys who have gotten excited and shot over deer at 200 yards thinking they had to hold high. Hunting the thickets and strip mines and clear cuts of west Virginia may give you a big buck at a few feey in a thicket or 300 yards sneaking through and clear cut. Spent my early days hunting and old strip mine where you could see for a pretty good distance. My 270win and 300win mag are in the safe right now with there 25yard zero. And some of these new cartridges like the 6.5nosler can have a max point blank range of 400 yards with the right zero.
@Roscoschickenwaffles
@Roscoschickenwaffles 8 месяцев назад
Best representation on how different zeros work! I’ve watched a lot, looks like I’ll be doing the 36yd zero. It’s made the most sense for my setup ever since looking into zeros and this video nails it down!
@ridnthawave708
@ridnthawave708 Год назад
Good, thorough work there. Appreciate the effort you put into this video. I’m a relative new shooter, well, hadn’t picked up a firearm in over 30 something years. Wanted to get back to shooting and have learned so much just in the last two years from channels like yours. Keep up the content and you really present stuff well. Thanks!!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! My plan is to keep putting out content like this so stay tuned!
@theboatshoptb
@theboatshoptb Год назад
I really enjoy your videos! The .308 video you produced really helped me decide on what zero to choose! You have saved everyone a ton of ammo and time! Thanks for all that you do!
@Quality_Guru
@Quality_Guru Год назад
To say that this test was extremely well done would be a huge understatement. Fantastic Content - Thanks for sharing. What would be interesting to see is how you can use your reticle to compensate for each of the difference distances for one of the zero settings versus dialing in the target with the turrets.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to watch! Stay tuned for future content. I’ve had a lot of really great ideas like yours come up in the comments of this one. Will for sure revisit this topic in 2023 content!
@GCostanza0521
@GCostanza0521 4 дня назад
I run the 100 yard zero in a battle rifle only because as you showed at the 100 zero, everything other than 100 runs low. When I think of shooting at a body/torso silhouette I aim upper chest area and if my zero is 100 I’m hitting every shot even at 300 with 11” drop (if it’s a good shot) in that torso to waist line. If my zero has shots going high and low I have to think too much and may go over the shoulder at certain distances. Not saying it’s the best way but just how my brain works. Great video 👍🏼
@paulysixx5047
@paulysixx5047 Год назад
This is a great video you don't spend 15 minutes talking you get right to the point.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch! Just out here trying to create entertaining content that provides some kind of value to the viewer. You won’t find anything over the top here haha
@jhordanmayo7456
@jhordanmayo7456 Год назад
Man am I glad I came across your channel! This is very helpful content! I greatly appreciate the time you put into this to educate people! God Bless.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Always fun to see how real world performance matches up to theory. Hoping to put out more videos on this concept so stay tuned!
@davidbailey6321
@davidbailey6321 Год назад
I’ve been looking for a .308 video with the same in depth explanation to the trajectory. Thanks for the knowledge
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
You know maybe I'll put a 308 zero/ trajectory video on the to do list as it would be pretty fun to make and currently there isn't a ton of 308 content available on this topic. Stay tuned!
@davidbailey6321
@davidbailey6321 Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica That would be awesome. Looking forward to it.
@armedfarm3429
@armedfarm3429 Год назад
308 is pretty close too 5.56 esp. with heavy [75] gr bullets in 5.56 & 150's in 08.
@coldandaloof7166
@coldandaloof7166 Год назад
Thank you, Your experience is similar to mine. It reaffirms my decision to stick with the 50/200 yds zero. I have very little plans to shoot past 200 and if I have to and know they are farther than that an upper chest hold will do the trick out to 300+. My front sight post covers the whole head at that range anyways. Good video
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Can’t argue with you here. I’ve been a 50 yd fan for years. Like you say it’s unlikely a fighting carbine will be used much last 200-300 yds so the tight trajectory the 50/200 yd zero provides is nice. Thanks for watching!
@416cubes4
@416cubes4 Год назад
Makes sense but I think a SHTF battle rifle would be best @ 35. Plus minus 3” from point blank to threat is a safer bet.. as with all tho, know what ya run and it will be the best on for ya:)
@karlswanson4564
@karlswanson4564 29 дней назад
Bro, I’ve read and watched so many videos about this topic. This was BY FAR the best and most informative one. Simple and to the point with real world results. Thank you and nicely done!
@RaiderLacrosse29
@RaiderLacrosse29 2 месяца назад
Me over here thinking I have to dump a crap ton of ammo at the range just to zero my rifle. But this video has shown me that I can reliably bore sight my rifle inside my house and then fine tune it to zero with only a handful of bullets at the range!! Hell yeah!! Seeing the real world results of each zero at each range really makes me want to try running the 25 yard zero. I can get tight groupings through the distance that most engagements would take place, but it also allows me to push out to distance if the need arises. This has been one of the most helpful videos I have come across in a while. Most videos just give you the theory portion of ballistics but don't actually go through the process of showing each and every one in real world performance. Thank you for this video!! This is the first of your videos I have ever seen and I just subscribed to your channel because of it!!
@Sptsmn700
@Sptsmn700 Год назад
Another interesting test would be this exact test using a red dot with a tall riser + magnifier combo like the unity 2.26” vs co witness height. Having a taller height over bore theoretically makes the poi between the two zero’s even higher. Which is why I’d chose a 50yd zero over 36yd in this circumstance
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Oh man stay tuned. I’ve had a ton of comments on how optic height would change the results. Hoping to test bullet weight, barrel length and optic height in a future video. Just have to acquire all of the variables needed to properly test. Thanks for watching!
@tylertapp131
@tylertapp131 Год назад
I had the same question, I run unity fast mounts and the ftc with a magnifier. I've only found one video and talked with a guy and he said to use a 57 yard zero for the difference. I've never had the places to stretch it out to confirm but I know at 25 yards I believe its 1.8 inches low.
@latobkk830
@latobkk830 Год назад
I'm not sure of the etiquette of linking to another YT Channel, but there is a guy (Delta 34) who has a fantastic series on Zeroing re Distance and Height Over Bore. Here are the Links to his Zero / HOB videos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HFE-wj7sOs0.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9qkKJyMtpVI.html Check them out. I think Mountains-Mullets will be OK with it. MMM and Delta 34 do the absolute best videos for hands-on learning. I have learned so much watching MMM and Delta 34.
@jonp5760
@jonp5760 Год назад
Great video! Probably the best I've seen on this topic. I use the 100 yard zero for my rifles. The bullet never going over the point of aim at any distance works well for me. I rarely shoot an AR over 200 yards, so the drop at distance isn't a big concern for me.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Oh man, sounds like the 100yd zero is perfect for you. Really easy to hold over for a couple inches of drop out at 200yds if needed, and like you say with the 100yd zero you don't have to worry about the bullet ever climbing above your point of aim. Thanks for watching!
@andrewulrich6612
@andrewulrich6612 11 месяцев назад
The range where I can shoot regularly only runs out to 200. I run ACSS reticles that have a bit of ranging, BDC and windage holds in them. I agree 200 is likely the longest shot we'd most likely take. I feel confident the math in that reticle would let me stretch out to 500 which is probably the limits of 5.56.
@ryanbatson4527
@ryanbatson4527 Год назад
Your video content is always top notch, the way you deliver your Information sets you apart from others and really sets the bar in my opinion. Thank you for the awesome videos. Happy Holidays !
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Really appreciate that! Just trying to keep things simple and to the point so hopefully that's the way the messaging comes across in each of my videos. Stay tuned for more!
@cybaggs
@cybaggs 9 месяцев назад
Great video! Concise and clear presentation. Best on YT in my opinion. I'm sticking with 50.
@baddogwaterfowl7302
@baddogwaterfowl7302 6 месяцев назад
Best video I’ve seen yet on this subject. You give all the information necessary without a lot of technical data most people don’t need.
@jamesgraham828
@jamesgraham828 Год назад
would love to see this again with a 7.62 x 39 upper. Just curious! especially the 25 yard zero vs 36 yard zero.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
You know 762x39 is one I haven’t thought of yet. I’m planning to revisit this topic in future content as it seems like folks really like seeing the real world performance vs the theory. I’ll see if I can round up something in 762x39 to test so stay tuned!
@phlashtheband4939
@phlashtheband4939 Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica The Russians use a 15 meter or about 16.5yd battle zero for 7.62X39 with a 20in barrel "SKS," although I have no idea how it would change with a shorter AK. I have found it works very close to the 36yd for 5.56, at least with a red dot on said SKS. I would like to see this test as well.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
@@phlashtheband4939 that's pretty wild. Crazy to think something as close at 16ish yds would be combat effective. Just differences in caliber/ rifle configuration I guess.
@phlashtheband4939
@phlashtheband4939 Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I guess the reason it works is the rear open sight is a graduating slider so 15 meters gets them out to the first number which I believe is 200 then they just slide up to reach out further, although in my experience 200 is a stretch for 7.62X39 anyway lol. It would be cool to find out how it plays out with open sights, as mine had them removed when I got it years ago. I did set it up for15 meters with the red dot and it works fine where I live "thick woods and bushy" but out to 150yd it will do. Have a great day, been nice chatting with ya.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
@@phlashtheband4939 sounds like the theory of 15 yds would make sense. Like you say though, beyond 200 yds with open sights and you’re really pushing the boundaries of the 762x39 round. Anyway good catching up with you, hope to meet again in future content!
@kenbrown1847
@kenbrown1847 Год назад
Great video and I appreciate all of the work you put into it. Do you have any plans to do this with a .308?
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Yes, stay tuned. This video has received a ton of attention with a lot of requests for me to revisit in future content. Hoping to follow up with different calibers barrel lengths, bullet weights and optic heights.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica yes, revisit with 308 & 6.5 creed later, but I think the next logical steps are 13.7" barrel 5.56 (42 yard zero as well, and maybe test some 70/77gr black hills/IMI/barnes & as well as 40gr fiocchi. 223 varmint, 3600fps) and then 10.5" & 16" 300 blackout after that. Finish off 5.56 then move to 300 blk, then on to ar10.... this will be a very fun series, especially once you get into the heavy or super fast loads at 300yds.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
@@RichardCranium321 I think it’s going to be fun to make and it’ll be interesting to watch. Seems like a lot of time folks focus on the theory so it’ll be fun to provide real world data for various setups so folks can reference when making their own decisions.
@3sgteyota
@3sgteyota Год назад
Yes, please
@austinkokomainiac7352
@austinkokomainiac7352 Год назад
Great prevention. That was going to be my question too so I’m glad I read through some more comments. I was curious how this would change with grain size on 5.56, other calibers and also barrel length. Can’t wait to keep watching and learning.
@Paleotech1
@Paleotech1 10 месяцев назад
An old man says “thank you”.
@mikewest503
@mikewest503 2 месяца назад
I know this was a year ago, but it’s new to me. Great job 👏 👏👏
@skippruitt2391
@skippruitt2391 6 месяцев назад
Great demonstration of the different zero's. I usually run the 36yrd zero for my needs.
@thormusique
@thormusique 11 месяцев назад
This was wonderfully done, thanks so much! I've been wanting to explore the 36 yd zero, and after watching this I definitely will. I really appreciate your clear and thorough approach, cheers!
@danpeppers5564
@danpeppers5564 Год назад
great content! without all the "off the point" babble. really like your format style.
@OOnti-dz4jd
@OOnti-dz4jd 5 месяцев назад
This video was very helpful. Navy Seal Shawn Ryan recommends a 36 yard zero too. I just returned from the range and zero at 25 with a 13.9 pin and weld AR w eotech. My 54 year old eyes retired Border Pattrol Agent needs a magnifier . I'm going to check out the 36 yarder . Great vid thanks,.
@jamesfairmind2247
@jamesfairmind2247 4 месяца назад
Very useful video. Really opened my eyes to the zero choices.
@dannybrown6678
@dannybrown6678 Год назад
I run a 25, just cause that's what I was taught way back when. Thanks great job on this.
@M3nPower
@M3nPower Год назад
Dude you are the best at what you do. Your long videos are not boring with a lot of talking that is not on the subject.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Appreciate the support! Stay tuned as I’ve got a ton of content In the works. My goal with each video is to create entertaining content that also provides some kind of value to the viewer. Hope that’s come across in each of my videos that you’ve watched!
@chadrob8384
@chadrob8384 28 дней назад
The absolute best zero video I've seen. Showing results in real time, what a thought.
@SweetMooch
@SweetMooch Год назад
I love your videos. I'm going to be straight forward only because I truly want to see you succeed. Some of your transitions between the 2 cameras was uhh no bueno. You can put a short cut away scene while your eyes transition from one camera to the other or a number of different things. I love the new rifle and content bro. Thanks for sharing
@stevedavis5349
@stevedavis5349 Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! I have watched many others you have made and always enjoy the content! Based on this review of the different zeros, I have changed from a 100 yrd zero to the 36 yrd zero! I think your content is true and can be trusted!
@CredibleHulk10
@CredibleHulk10 Год назад
I routinely see videos with comments claiming it was "the best," or "most thoroughly explained," or "different than every other" video on YT that is doing exact the same thing. I often wonder if it's all bots or if I'm broken because I usually find nothing innovative or worthwhile in most of them as compared to the others. Of course, I am not the arbiter of what constitutes quality on the internet, but I think the comments for your video here are spot on. Exactly what one would like to see regarding theory vs application. Well done, sir.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Awesome, really appreciate you taking the time to watch. Like you I’ve watched tons of gun related content on RU-vid through the years and as a result I think I’ve identified ways to make my channel unique and valuable to viewers. Hope you stay tuned as I’ve got so much planned for 2023 and my goal is for every video to be entertaining but provide viewers with some kind of valuable takeaways!
@demnuts3145
@demnuts3145 Год назад
I've been researching this subject for a while now and have zeroed my ARs at 50 yards. Now that I've watched this, I'm going to re-zero them to 36 yards, lol. Great video, you did a lot of work!!! I'm definitely going to subscribe
@esmith3438
@esmith3438 Год назад
USMC BZO at 36yards
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Oh man this is great….. I’ve been a 50 yd zero fan for years. After running each of these zeros side by side however I decided to swap over to the 36 yd zero. Been running that for several months now on my “fighting ar”….. haven’t looked back since. A great option if you ask me!
@BbbbbbbbbBBBB556
@BbbbbbbbbBBBB556 6 месяцев назад
I've ran a 36 yard zero for years and saw a video by Shawn Ryan that covered this as well and he was able to cover all the impacts from the 36 yard zero out to 300 yards with a CD which solidified my reason to continue to run the 36 yard zero
@brockmannwells
@brockmannwells 9 месяцев назад
This has to be the best explanation and demonstration I’ve ever seen. Great video.
@dennishawxhurst8316
@dennishawxhurst8316 3 месяца назад
MMM, This is the most intuitive teaching video on zeros that I've seen to date. Good on ya! When on active duty, we were encouraged to use a 25 yd zero. After working for a short time with some SOF bubbas I changed over to a 36 yd/meter zero for the very reason you illustrated. Less holdover/under math to keep track of when I'm busy with other shit.
@DesertTactical
@DesertTactical Год назад
This video should be pinned by RU-vid admins themselves so it pops up on everyones screen. Fkn awesome. Well thought out and explained. The patience to do this for us! Thank you!💪🏼
@DesertTactical
@DesertTactical Год назад
By the way, I run the 36yd zero on my rifles. Works for me. Again, superb video. SUBBED!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Appreciate the support! Just out here trying to create entertaining yet valuable content. I’ve got a 308 battle zero video dropping in a couple hours so hope you’ll stay tuned and check it out…. Lots of big things in the works so share with your buddies!
@DesertTactical
@DesertTactical Год назад
@@MountainsMulletsMerica thanks, man. Will do!
@vivepopo
@vivepopo Год назад
No one has ever explained it so simple and succinctly . Cheers!
@garypinholster1962
@garypinholster1962 Год назад
This video did what no ome else does and straight up no bullshit showing what each zero is back to back for 556/223. Amazing.
@koffeekiller
@koffeekiller Год назад
This is one of the BEST ZERO COMPARE video on RU-vid! Most of us use 55gr M193 (it's inexpensive and readily available) and some of us use a 14.5 barrel length and there aren't many vids showing this combo. Thank you for you science of zero and bullet trajectory.
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Really glad to hear you found value in this video! It's hard to choose a rifle and ammo configuration that 100% applies to everyone so I just tried to get something that would be middle of the road to illustrate the concept. Once folks understand the concept, it should only be minor differences for different bullets and barrel lengths. As always though, it's best if folks go out and verify this data on their individual rifle. Thanks for watching!
@braidonutley8938
@braidonutley8938 Год назад
You are a national treasure, sir! This is the best explanation on this topic I've ever come across! Mullet gang baby!
@MountainsMulletsMerica
@MountainsMulletsMerica Год назад
Haha I don't know about a national treasure but I really appreciate the support! I've actually got a 308 battle zero video dropping tomorrow that I hope you'll stick around to check out! Let me know if you run across any topics you think would make for a great video.
@allanfischer9417
@allanfischer9417 6 месяцев назад
Great explanation of what how and why. Some were quite a bit different than I would have guessed.
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