AR battle zero deep dive- bullet weight comparison

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Let's take an in depth look at how different bullet weights perform out of a 14.5" 5.56 AR using the 36yd zero. We'll shoot MEN M193, IMI M855 & Silver State Armory 77gr loads side by side on cardboard out to 300 yds. Then we'll review the data at the end of the video to provide you a look at how each of these bullets out to distance with the 36 yd zero. The theory on the 36yd zero says it should also be zeroed at 300 yds.... will this concept hold true with each of the different bullet weights?
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Rifle details
- Sopmod block II clone upper
- Colt 14.5" socom weight barrel- 1/7" twist
- DD RIS II FSP rail
- Surefire FA556-212 suppressor
- Colt LE6920 lower
- Geissele SSA trigger
Optic details
- Athlon Ares ETR 1-10
- Reptilia 1.54"/ 39mm single piece mount
00:00 Opening comments
01:44 Battle zero concept
05:38 The testing process
07:57 55gr M193 testing
10:38 62gr M855 testing
12:16 77gr MK262 testing
15:11 Review of the results
21:30 Closing comments

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24 июл 2024

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@bigfootdrums 7 месяцев назад

These videos are so practical!!! Why is no one else doing this???? You deserve millions of subscribers!

@charlesmullins3238 7 месяцев назад

Couldn’t said it better…this should be a college course prerequisite in merica..🇺🇸

@Ferrari_M5 7 месяцев назад

Agreed. These are the types of videos that are truly helpful and really explain all of these ideas.

@brandonrupp5880 7 месяцев назад

You might like Jim's Goon Life. It's not quiet as data heavy but it's good too.

@SugarFreeTargets 7 месяцев назад

I questioned the same thing... You can find many arguments on forums about what's the better zero, what's the better bullet weight or what the best configuration. Yet no one bothered making a video about it. Until now

@mrtipton1 7 месяцев назад

I stumbled on this channel a couple of weeks ago. These videos are pure gold. It's like the video selections are from my wish list of knowledge. Thank you!

@Driver-ur9mf 7 месяцев назад

Found him because 300blk subsonic, stayed for everything thing else.

@MexicanNinja82 7 месяцев назад

Would love to see this on a 50/200 yard zero. Great video as always.

@katana258 7 месяцев назад

seems he has no idea on what works does he ..

@blahblahblah7554 7 месяцев назад

I think the differences of weights are more pronounced at 36/300 than 50/200 (but yes I believe 50/200 is flatter and superior)

@j.till_z 7 месяцев назад

He has done a video on a 25/300, 50/200 and 100 yd zero. From zero to 200 a 50 yard zero is pretty consistent, but once you reach out past 200 the bullet drop is significant.

@nickadkins7765 4 месяца назад

@@blahblahblah7554 He did the tests and 36yd zero was better. 36/300 yd zero is superior.

@blahblahblah7554 3 месяца назад

@@nickadkins7765 depends.. if you’re looking to be a surgical shooter, 50 is the way to go. If you wanna make hits at 300/400 then 36 is superior

@Aeronaughtica 7 месяцев назад

Love the no-nonsense videos man! Straight to the point and very informative. In a future video I’d like to see a comparison on barrel twist rate vs. bullet weight. There’s a lot of charts out there regarding this, but I haven’t seen any videos with real world shooting data.

@ImpulseAudioSpeakers 7 месяцев назад

Great idea. Especially if he did 5.56 and another one like .308.

@mattrogers6237 7 месяцев назад

I know how much time, energy, and $$ these videos take! Thanks for providing quality info for the everyday shooter!

@GetMeThere1 7 месяцев назад

Most of us use M193 for practice, and most late-manufactured barrels have a 1:7 twist -- which is FAR faster than M193 requires (original M16 had a 1:12 twist). I'm interested in the effect of 1:7 twist on M193 bullet travel -- especially as it gets out to longer ranges.

@davidmilisock5200 7 месяцев назад

My only experience with the 1 in 7 twist is with the the 20" barrel on an A2. The answer to you question is from my experiance is that the M193 is very stable in the 1 in 7 and if the wind cooperates my A2 can make repeatable 600 yard hits.

@bovineexcrement8635 Месяц назад

@@davidmilisock5200☝️this

@ClarenceLaurent 7 месяцев назад

Doing God's work thank you for your time & effort & thoroughness of your content

@gregdodd4729 7 месяцев назад

I'm impressed with the performance of the 55 grain bullets.

@davidmilisock5200 7 месяцев назад

The M193 does even better with the 20" barrel on the A2. My A2 in 5.56 in a Delta configuration is almost as good as my Aero Precision M4E1 in 6MM ARC with a 16" barrel and 105 grain Hornady match.

@Driver-ur9mf 7 месяцев назад

@@davidmilisock5200Makes sense. Cartridge was made for that length. Had only been shooting green tips from the carbine, but is way to cold for outdoor range and they say no no to those indoors. So a vid about non green tips and perhaps insight into 11.5 and 20 inches would be good.

@jlew6890 7 месяцев назад

I love these vids. Sometimes as instructors we don’t always have the right cues or eloquence to reach every student (everyone learns differently) and in those cases I’ve found that showing them these vids makes it “click”

@johnmarken3945 7 месяцев назад

Nice to see the 1:7 twist was not a detriment to the 55gr at all. Great to see that physics haven't changed and that a 14" barrel doesn't give the heavier bullets enough velocity to be as good at 300 yards bullet drop wise. Seeing the limits of that system, no magic bullet for shorter barrels in 5.56. Is what it is. Also confirmed that the m855 sucks accuracy wise, I'm not alone. You do seem to take our comments and use them so now I'd like to request and see this run with a proper 5.56 barrel length of 16" or even the original stoner length of 20" that the system was originally designed with for the 55gr vs heavier. I'd also love to see similar work done with the 6mm arc which I am coming to believe is a superior battle caliber for the AR15 over 5.56. Thanks so much!!

@seanoneil277 7 месяцев назад

M855 seems best suited to learning recoil etc. management in fundamentals, more than anything else.

@davidmilisock5200 7 месяцев назад

@@seanoneil277 The M855 was designed for better penetration from the shorter barreled M4. It runs at higher pressure than the M193, therefore produces higher velocity in the shorte barrels and has a steel wire core.

@Driver-ur9mf 7 месяцев назад

@@davidmilisock5200I had questions about that. FFL always seemed to have a can of Winchester M855. I read of an EPR or M855A1 for the Carbines, which seemed to imply 855 is for the 20". Well this EPR allegedly has faster burning powder for the shorter barrel. Faster burn equals more pressure, but complete burn in 14 inches. I told him, I'll have that. He says nope, civilians may not have that. Bolt breakage, or something. I don't know.

@davidmilisock5200 7 месяцев назад

@@Driver-ur9mf The M855 (green tip) came to be when the M4 was in general use for a while. The M855A1 (from what I could find) does have a higher pressure, however the one issue that seems to reappear itself is feed ramp wear since the M855A1 has the steel tip on the outside. If my memory is working, they created a different magazine for that cartridge.

@LarsBars17 3 месяца назад

Bro you spoiled the ending for me

@davidthurman2267 7 месяцев назад

No one test ammo more than ally. Your channel and them guys together is a match made in heaven

@travisbond635 7 месяцев назад

We love your videos. You're saving us all alot of time and ammo by SHOWING us what's going on with all 3 bullets. Not just telling us. You do a great job at explaining what you're talking about. We love your channel and keep up the good work. God bless you and yours and God bless America 🇺🇸.

@AZMarine513 7 месяцев назад

Good video. I run 77gr IMI Razorcore. That ammo hits pretty hard and shoots great.

@alefig2035 6 месяцев назад

I pushed a quarter size hole straight threw 70 lb hog at 70 yards with razor core 77 otm it amazing how much of the shoulder on exit side was damaged .

@johncrosser8783 7 месяцев назад

I really Enjoy your Videos! You Cover Lots of Information! I’ve always been a Fan of 36 Yard Zero. Pretty much Translates into Three Inches High at 100 Yards. Growing Up in South Dakota, I Sighted in most of my rifles at 3 Inches High at 100 Yards. I’m 63 Years old now and a Marine Veteran. Thanks Again! Love watching your Videos!

@IwatchFilm 7 месяцев назад

No surprises here, the ballistic data just confirms that math doesn't lie. Thank you for the illustration of the concept, I'm sure it helped a lot of folks have a better understand.

@Bookman95 7 месяцев назад

Love your stuff man, keep up the great work!

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Dude this has been a great series

@MountainsMulletsMerica 7 месяцев назад

Really glad to hear you’re enjoying it! Appreciate the support!

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@DoWork316 7 месяцев назад

Great info ! It went as expected but great to see it all at once.

@johncoffman9033 6 месяцев назад

Great videos man. Keep up the good work!

@theone4572 7 месяцев назад

Love these kinds of videos! Super informative!!!

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Another outstanding vid. Thank you for making these.

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The video I’ve been waiting for thank you good sir!

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This series of videos is such great content. Thanks for what you are doing. Good stuff!!

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High quality content. Keep up the great work!

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Really enjoyed this series

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So awesome that you're doing this series! Literally what I commented about last week lol

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This is another outstanding video in the series. Thank you.

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@reloadrefine 7 месяцев назад

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@ndnutt 7 месяцев назад

Just getting into the AR rifles and your videos are an amazing help, thank you!

@jerrywiese9722 7 месяцев назад

Always informative and your show me way of teaching is a neat way to learn

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@williamboggs1682 7 месяцев назад

You truly do an amazing job with these videos thanks and would love to see some more silencer stuff

@regulardudegungearreviewsh3132 7 месяцев назад

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@ke3552 7 месяцев назад

Nice work, much appreciated.

@DDDontCare 7 месяцев назад

You are doing such great work! This has fast become my favorite gun channel. Highly informative and relatable. I do envy those wide Open spaces and Long ranges you get to shoot.

@MegaHogzilla 7 месяцев назад

This was so helpful. Thank you!

@EeZ3-808 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely enjoy this series of videos. Thank you, Aloha 🤙🏽

@Cincinnatis 7 месяцев назад

Another video giving the best info on this topic

@bigosbro21 7 месяцев назад

Love the channel and these videos. Glad I found you. Subbed!

@TNT-gun-reviews 7 месяцев назад

Great video. Thanks for the data

@ejan8088 7 месяцев назад

Truly excellent content!

@kcv5716 7 месяцев назад

Great presentation of commonly used bullets. Shows people the outcomes of what to expect.

@salvadormelendez9749 7 месяцев назад

Very valuable info. Thanks for sharing.

@thorsmith59 7 месяцев назад

Excellent comparison.

@iDreamOfWeenie 7 месяцев назад

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@hbarwickjr 7 месяцев назад

Another subject I was wondering about between the bullet weights and their impact. Your doing a great job here too! Subscribed a few days ago.

@greatdane3343 7 месяцев назад

Interesting, informative and well presented video 👍

@justinswiger3855 7 месяцев назад

You have done an excellent job answering the deep dive questions I've had pertaining to balistic variables. Thanks so much, excellent content

@Driver-ur9mf 7 месяцев назад

Is like going to class. Whip out the notebook and a pen. Focus, this guy drops knowledge.

@damonsmith71712 4 месяца назад

Phenomenal explanation. You deserve a lot more subs than you have.

@oneredeemedrich 7 месяцев назад

Appreciate da vids bro!

@TheLoneRanger745 4 месяца назад

Great testing Buddy

@beenschmokin 7 месяцев назад

Great job. Keep em coming.

@survivechicago 7 месяцев назад

Great videos, keep up the good work!

@macfurn 7 месяцев назад

Same tests but with your 11.5 would be great also

@leroybrace9236 7 месяцев назад

Another great informative video. Thanks

@kevinshea2539 7 месяцев назад

Great video! Thanks.

@rascal0175 7 месяцев назад

Excellent. Thank you.

@jesusfimbres2636 7 месяцев назад

Excellent video brother!! 👍

@-2u2 7 месяцев назад

Great information. Thank you

@roul3688 7 месяцев назад

Awesome demonstration. Thanks

@deltacrew4122 7 месяцев назад

Thanks, another great informative video!

@stephenlopez5497 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great video

@RicardoGonzalez-ug6xm 7 месяцев назад

Those 77grainers are definitely the ticket further out past 300yds …..great info & content keep up the awesome work mullet man 🤘🏾

@charlesmullins3238 7 месяцев назад

Yea man…got some 85gr nosler rdf the super extra pointy version…

@IkfNorCalChamp 7 месяцев назад

Didn’t they do the worst tho? I bought a bunch of 77gr to for self defense rounds. But they didn’t look super accurate from this video.

@RicardoGonzalez-ug6xm 7 месяцев назад

@@IkfNorCalChamp yes they seem to have been not very accurate at the distance he shot but next time you go out & shoot them say at 700 yds you will see that they will shoot better than the 55g fmj’s or 62g , at least that’s what I see in my rigs because of the higher bc of the 77g . Your rifle will ultimately tell you if it likes them or not .

@zachariahferguson8871 7 месяцев назад

thank you for your videos.

@Wmbhill 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the video

@mcc124 7 месяцев назад

Great Stuff- you deserve more subscribers.

@Matt-dd3cw 7 месяцев назад

For the algorithm Your channel kicks ass bro

@skydivingcomrade1648 7 месяцев назад

Thank you so much!!

@ranmangolf 10 дней назад

Very helpful, thanks.

@bwcritch 7 месяцев назад

Number crunching on the computer is great, but real world data is so much more useful which is what makes videos like this so good.

@goawaybaizuo 7 месяцев назад

Bro, I just found you, and this is some of the best content out there. I've been desperately trying to find zeros for my suppressed 11.5 and 12.5 that I solely run 75/77gr. I have a suppressed 16" and run 55gr because it's easy with my bdc optics. However, trying to figure out holds, zeros, etc, when mixing ammo, get confusing. Unfortunately, I only have a 100yd range. I'm actually looking at property solely to shoot distance and make a training ground on.

@grantyoung3076 7 месяцев назад

Dude, your videos are just the best. Super practical and you're obviously a really smart guy but you don't insult your audience and show it off. There's so much banter on the internet about this cartridge in that cartridge being better, but if you want to know what a cartridge does just play with a ballistic calculator. There's no best cartridge, just a bunch of trade-offs and you have to figure out what's best or what you want to do.

@GrayMindset 7 месяцев назад

Keep up the good work 👍

@refuztosay9454 3 месяца назад

Great video.

@healthfreak79 7 месяцев назад

Great information.

@ccadiz01 7 месяцев назад

Great video

@julsdrummer 3 месяца назад

Awesome information :)

@abelacosta7200 7 месяцев назад

Awesome video bro. I personally don’t like using 55 grain ammo. I could never get a good group. I have a 16” 1/7 twist barrel on my range rifle. And it seems to favor 62 grain more than anything. I’ve shot heavier loads & I wish I could shoot more of it to work the barrel in more but man that stuff is kinda expensive. So if I buy anything over 62 grains it usually goes to storage.

@BafflingBS Месяц назад

Thanks!

@OnMyGrizzle 7 месяцев назад

Thx for the video

@issao-SP-Brasil 6 месяцев назад

Thank you 👏👏👏

@ghosttrail8939 7 месяцев назад

another great video. Keep it up

@ExplorinInTheWoods 7 месяцев назад

I’m going to keep on asking for a 50yd zero video, but these are great videos

@adammayo9302 6 месяцев назад

Homie is like the Paul Harrel for the new generation.

@Lexicologist1971 4 месяца назад

After 3 videos, I'm subscribed.

@MountainsMulletsMerica 4 месяца назад

Thank you! Really appreciate the support! Lots of fresh content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned

@DRay-or4tc 7 месяцев назад

Good vid. Appreciate your effort.

@michaelcerrone1482 7 месяцев назад

Considering your ties with Wade and Ally Munitions, I would love to see these tests done in 6mm ARC.

@jbcaptain11 7 месяцев назад

That guy cannot make ammo fast enough lol. Needs expensive machinery. Props to him though for doing what I wish I could do. I want to build a browning blr mini action for the arc

@shaneciccarelli-palmer2962 7 месяцев назад

I would like to see that as well

@michaelcerrone1482 7 месяцев назад

I'm wanting to build a 14" 6mm arc for a truck gun. I've heard good things about the caliber at that barrel length, but would still like to see a video in this format and the others he's been doing on this topic, with that barrel length and caliber. Especially with the 3 offerings that Hornady has right now on it.

@MrFred4513 7 месяцев назад

Another great video. You have no idea how these videos help people who dont have availability and or access to longer shooting ranges. I like seeing the heavier 5.56/223 bullet info they are becoming more popular and available. Perhaps a video showing a 77 grain bullet zeroed at 25 yards , 50 yards and 100 yards and the results of those zeros at 300 yards.

@charlesmullins3238 7 месяцев назад

I’d absolutely love see this same testing n 7.6whew….especially from a 16” 1/10”….but you’ve got my 5.56 juices goin so I’m gonna fire my ol carbine range model with the compass in the stock rn….lokk out black Bart!

@scout3058 7 месяцев назад

Great video. Awesome data collection method.

@christiansamayoa4098 7 месяцев назад

Good stuff

@phild9813 7 месяцев назад

Awesome video. You are exploring the concept of maximum point blank range in the common vernacular. Looks like all would work just fine on a fairly large target to 300. I prefer 77s personally.

@bmaxTJ 11 часов назад

Thank you

@armandochavira87 7 месяцев назад

Really good information 🤙🤙🤙!!!!!

@sp9395 7 месяцев назад

I was literally just deciphering this in my mind 2 minutes ago because of an optic I have coming which is set up for 62g reticle. Griffin armament 1x8 Thanks man!

@ETdrums 7 месяцев назад

Great series idea, this is good stuff! I was very surprised by the 62gr performance at 300y (wide disbursement)., as well as the amount of drop (13 inches) of the 77gr from 200-300yds. I wasn’t expecting the 77gr to be higher at 200y than the lighter bullets but that amount of drop was crazy! Makes me wonder if the shorter barrel length contributed to that drop. In addition to optic height, muzzle devices, and barrel lengths, I’d love to see barrel twist rates with different bullet weights added to the list because I’ve read how a 1:9 won’t stabilize a 77gr down range and how 1:8 is the perfect all around compromise, etc.

@greatcornholio5541 7 месяцев назад

I’ve got a 18” .223wylde barrel and it’s got 1:8 twist. It shoots almost everything great.

@Driver-ur9mf 7 месяцев назад

@@greatcornholio5541M&P had a sport 2 with 1 in 8, saying it offers better stability. FFL said you can do better than that package. Perhaps. The 6920 has 1 in 7, chrome lined blah blah blah MP whatever, does fine w/green tips. I think, as that is all I fed it.

@JohnBerry-kb3fo 7 месяцев назад

Awesome content. Thanks for showing the different bullet weights. Now if I can just learn to shoot as well as you, life will be good. haha :)

@treycann 7 месяцев назад

These videos are fantastic! I would love to see a video of a 36yd zero with different grain weights but keeping the original zero to see point of impact shift. Say 77gr 36yd zero and shoot 55 and 62 with the zero for 77 and see how they compare