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Best Chainsaw? Let's Settle This! Stihl, Husqvarna, ECHO, Poulan Pro, Craftsman, Ryobi, Salem Master 

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Let's settle this debate! Stihl vs Husqvarna, ECHO, Poulan Pro, Craftsman, Ryobi, Salem Master. Chainsaws compared for weight, pulling force to start the saw, cold temperature starting performance, torque, no load sprocket speed, cutting speed on manufactured log, cutting speed with 5 pounds of weight on the bar, cutting speed through hardwood. I purchased all of the gasoline / petrol chainsaws and supplies used to test the chainsaws to ensure an unbiased review. So, thank you for supporting the channel!
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@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 16 дней назад
Here’s the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! ECHO: amzn.to/3IpWYBZ ECHO Electric: amzn.to/3Ggf2fi Husqvarna: amzn.to/3GEhI7C Ryobi: amzn.to/3GEk9r8 (no longer available) Salem Master: amzn.to/3unQlLu Craftsman: Available at Lowes Poulan Pro: amzn.to/3CnTXhU Stihl MS 250: Available at Stihl retailers such as Ace Hardware and Northern Tool
@SaboSells
@SaboSells Год назад
I've owned a dozen or more chainsaws and have always found the Stihl and Husqvarna's to be the best and they performed well in your tests. Another important factor for me is the ability to get parts, shops that can fix them and how good they are after they break and get fixed. Another important reason to go with the two mentioned...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@jasonpatterson8091
@jasonpatterson8091 Год назад
This was exactly what I was thinking. There are multiple Stihl repair shops in my area - the Salem Master did well, but I can't see a plastic chainsaw holding up long term, and it's going to be more or less disposable at that price point.
@GordyBro
@GordyBro Год назад
@@ProjectFarmmy dad has owned a Husqvarna 455 Rancher for about 13 years now. Every year we’ve used it to cut all of our wood for the winter, here in upstate New York. The saw is an absolute beast, and has never gone up against something it couldn’t cut. The new Husqvarna saws just aren’t built the same as they were.
@jayss10
@jayss10 Год назад
That is an excellent point that I wish folks would consider more often than price point. Service after the sale is HUGE with something like a chainsaw. If you have a really good Stihl dealer nearby you buy Stihls which is what we did. I would suspect people that have good Echo or Husky dealers would do the same. I can't tell you how many times as a kid growing up on a small farm that we would be out clearing fence lines etc and we would have a problem with a saw and Dan would take it in and have it going again within a day or two (usually a gunked up oiler or contaminated fuel). A saw is one of those tools that for most folks it sits idle in the shed/garage for 99% of the time. But when you need it, YOU NEED IT...
@7eis
@7eis Год назад
For some reason most people ignore cost of ownership with garden tools and only focus on mpg of their SUV 😅
@jefferyrightmire9520
@jefferyrightmire9520 Год назад
As a former professional rural lineman, I must tell you that the little points have another purpose. When cutting larger demension material there is a trick with the points. Let the chain pull the barbs into the wood, with a little added force, then gently pull up on the rear handle rotating the bar and chain into the cut, let it rock 20 degrees, then slide the bar/chain back a couple of inches, then stab it in again. Keep the bar rocking as you go thru--try it.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@garyny4073
@garyny4073 Год назад
Jeffrey - " u are the lineman for the county, and u drive the main roads , searching in the darkness for an other overload , I hear u singing in wire , I can see through the vines and the Witchita lineman is still on the linnnnne " ! Glen Campbell - Witchita Lineman
@joetroutt7425
@joetroutt7425 Год назад
Yeah I was going to mention that but I figured someone else did.
@garyny4073
@garyny4073 Год назад
@@joetroutt7425 🤣🤣, did I beat u on that one J ? One of my all time favorite classics of all time 🚬🥃👍Glen C RIP
@sterlingroberts6240
@sterlingroberts6240 Год назад
I get the impression he knows that, but doing all that might introduce another variable in the form of user skill. Every extra bit of manipulation he does creates more play in the final results. Maybe if he devised a way to measure the angle in real time. That might keep it fair.
@robertm4914
@robertm4914 Год назад
Your tests are in a league of their own! Great job once again! Your no BS approach is more and more refreshing in these times of increasing Phoniness. Please continue to keep it real for those of us that truly appreciate your efforts.
@mrtree1368
@mrtree1368 Год назад
Only problem is in the real world you wouldn't put a 18 inch bar on a cs 400 . You would want a cs 490 or a 4510 for that
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback!
@j.r.777
@j.r.777 Год назад
Hey thanks for all of your videos! In the past I have asked for an all USA made video for tools or whatever else you do a video on. I was curious though if when you do these videos if you could also include after the initial test where each item is made? I know you say in the videos but when compiling my data from your videos I want to avoid anything made in China. I can then eliminate all of those and then go off of what offers the best option for stuff made outside of China. I have a good friend who is from China and she has told me about the atrocities she has seen out there first hand by the Government. She escaped from there and from things that she has told me I don’t have any desire to ever give China any of my money. Plus their stuff has the worst longevity and durability.
@SpicerStephenD
@SpicerStephenD Год назад
Always Excellent videos without bias, thanks!
@madisonhadley7906
@madisonhadley7906 Год назад
@mr Tree I got a cs400 with carb limiters and muffler screen removed and it pulls the 18 no problem. Even stock it did fine
@Joseph-du1cp
@Joseph-du1cp Год назад
Biggest factor for me is being able to consistently start the saw and long term reliability. I've watched my dad go through 3 Homelite/Ryobi chainsaws having them break and be un-repairable while I've still have my one home grade Stihl MS171 which hasn't let me down yet.
@qwertyui90qwertyui90
@qwertyui90qwertyui90 Год назад
Go the old homelite XL 12 / super / auto model. Better than anything else, extremely torquey, doesn't let me down at all. Still use it 50 years later.... Doesn't flop around like these new plastic ones, in the video they flop around so bad when you pull the pull starter haha.
@drewway9599
@drewway9599 10 месяцев назад
@@qwertyui90qwertyui90 thats called anti vibration mounts old man lolol
@alexandercopeland2849
@alexandercopeland2849 6 месяцев назад
​@@qwertyui90qwertyui90bet you sing a different tune if you bought a new equivalent to the home light. I have used a homelite 925xl and bought a stihl ms880, never touched homelite except for mill work now
@rorynelson7548
@rorynelson7548 6 месяцев назад
Stihl runs in my bloodline.
@viperstrike3827
@viperstrike3827 5 месяцев назад
​@@alexandercopeland2849Im a home gamer. I got an old ms440 it is the last saw I will ever need.
@davehoward2791
@davehoward2791 Год назад
I bought a Stihl MS 290:Farm Boss about 13 years ago and have been impressed. Have used it thru several hurricanes and many hours of property clearing and cleanup felling trees, cutting branches, etc. and it’s never failed me. Just did it’s first tuneup last summer and she’s still plugging along perfectly. I’ve owned half a dozen different brands over the years but only the Stihl and a little 10 year old Homelight with a 16” bar have lasted and continue to perform. Excellent test, thanks for the video. Top shelf content as always! 👍
@JohnDoe-df2zz
@JohnDoe-df2zz Год назад
Wow I forgot about Homelight. I remember my dad running Homelight saws when I was a kid before he switched to Stihl. Brings back memories...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks and you are welcome!
@masoncole5834
@masoncole5834 Год назад
Homelite huh, I bought a gas leaf blower that was a homelite and to be honest it was pretty trash lol
@Redeemed081
@Redeemed081 Год назад
I have the same MS290 and it has never let me down (except once when I got some bad gas). Glad I spent the extra $ on a Stihl.
@REDBIRD-95
@REDBIRD-95 Год назад
@@JohnDoe-df2zz My Dad still has his old Homelite XL1. Talk about a VERY loud saw😆Those old saws had no chain brake, no vibration dampening, not much in the way of safety whatsoever, but they were all metal and built to last with very few plastic pieces.
@harlowchandlerjr.6371
@harlowchandlerjr.6371 Год назад
I currently use a Stihl MS 290 and an Echo CS 590. They are very close in specs. Over my nearly 78 years I've used a lot of saws including other Stihls and Echos. My experience has been that Stihls are very well made (maybe less true now of the base consumer models), but so are the Echos. My Echo starts much more easily than my Stihl, cuts faster and seems to have more power--but it's also newer, and that may explain a lot. My son has one of my old Echos that must be almost 40 years old now. It still runs. He has an old Stihl of mine too, maybe 30 years old, and it runs fine. I think the takeaway is that any of the high-end saws--Stihl, Echo, Husqvarna, Dolmar, etc. are worth the money--they last, they have high resale value if you don't want to keep it, and they are much easier to live with. Which is best? I really think it's just a matter of personal preference and how you prioritize the fine differences in details.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@terrysoule8441
@terrysoule8441 Год назад
Someone else who knows what a Dolmar is!
@derrick9653
@derrick9653 Год назад
@@terrysoule8441 Sachs-Dolmar
@andrewmohs4734
@andrewmohs4734 Год назад
Love my 590. Been using it very heavily all year without issue. There have been days where it's running 6+ hours of hard cutting. No issues so far.
@googleuser3760
@googleuser3760 Год назад
I really really miss the old Homelite’s you couldn’t kill those things.
@jamesdt1980
@jamesdt1980 Год назад
A couple of my friends who've worked as wildland firefighters consider the stihl the industry standard-- so the result wasn't too surprising ;)
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@Pptxy
@Pptxy Год назад
@@ProjectFarm Please review DIY HVLP paint sprayer. Homeright super finish max, Graco 360vsp, Wagner flexio Yattich.
@arentol7
@arentol7 Год назад
Running a Husqvarna 460 Rancher for my land. Works like charm, and the 24" bar is incredibly useful for some of the huge logs I have to work with.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@ZyKLonBē
@ZyKLonBē Год назад
Can’t go wrong with Husqvarna. Good quality equipment.
@Beijingbiden
@Beijingbiden Год назад
24 inch bar for huge longs Your not from the northwest are you
@arentol7
@arentol7 Год назад
@lenardruterbories6742 I am from the PNW, and 24" does the job for the stuff I have to work with. There are bigger trees around, but the trees on my land aren't too big for it to get the job done.
@Joeisapedo
@Joeisapedo Год назад
I love my husqvarna chainsaw, leaf blower, weed wacker. I use the 50-1 vp and every time I need my tools they fire up.
@OGSontar
@OGSontar Год назад
Another tremendous test run. In all truth, Todd, I'd trust your testing results over anything that a manufacturer said as far as results go. Although my chainsaw slinging days are long over, I was really stoked to see you test the gas saws. If you have a lot of wood to clear, gas is the way to go for sure. Thanks again for all you do, and for staying true to your no-sponsorship stance. It means a hell of a lot to us.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thank you!
@kayaddicted
@kayaddicted Год назад
I've used several chainsaws over the years and ended up purchasing a Stihl Farm Boss a few years ago. The first time I used that thing I was blown away. Hands-down more power and speed than anything I'd ever used before. I also feel more safe using it because I'm not fighting it at all, just comfortable letting the saw do the work.
@Geopoliticstoday2
@Geopoliticstoday2 Год назад
Agreed. Husqvarna has nothing on Stihl in last 15 years. I clear land with my 210.....things amazing. Stay safe!
@natethegr8230
@natethegr8230 Год назад
The anti vibration system on Stihl saws is second to none. All around the best saws out there.
@alexreid4131
@alexreid4131 Год назад
Also have the Farm Boss. Took it in last year and basically needed to be rebuilt. I enquired as to whether I should look at replacing it with STIHL’s modern equivalent of the Farm Boss. The shop owner was adamant and replied immediately with, “Oh no! Never get rid of this. They don’t make em like this anymore.”
@deanhawes5088
@deanhawes5088 Год назад
my x dun did buy me my 039 farm boss 20 years ago for me birthday . she sed they are the best ... the thing still runs strong i guess i have to eat my undies nextime me x and i meat
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 Год назад
Stihl doesnt make a model named "farm boss"
@Dirtbiker-guy
@Dirtbiker-guy Год назад
I've owned about every brand there is and nothing compares to a Stihl, I love your observation on the gas caps in regards to preventing contamination in the tank, I carry a small paint brush in each of my saw cases to clean the cap areas off before refueling/reoiling. I hope the manufacturers take note of your critique on this.
@rydplrs71
@rydplrs71 Год назад
Having a couple husky xp saws I will say when looking at top models husky still holds its own. It does offer low tier models that do make the company reputation sink though.
@velvanae
@velvanae Год назад
I have a 30 cal ammo can with all my chainsaw maint. items, extra 2 cyc oil mix, and spare parts. You can bet the farm I have a paintbrush in there! That was something I learned a long time ago.
@kylekinkade9211
@kylekinkade9211 Год назад
I only use husqvarna saws. Fluid refill contamination has never been an issue with a small utility brush on hand. Husqvarna seem to be my ideal saw. Not heavy. Easy fluid fill and chain change is quick. Most saw stores carry Husqvarna parts as well as the other popular brands.
@user-nh3gu1ge3d
@user-nh3gu1ge3d Год назад
Similar experience to you. I went through three lowes Husky's before I said ENOUGH of this crap and got a nice 261CM. Best saw ever. Not the most powerful saw in the world but the features, ease of use, reliability, weight to power ratio, etc. are lightyears beyond anything I got from lowes. Granted it may not be the fairest comparison, I'm sure Husky has great stuff at the top end, but I'll never buy anything but a Stihl again. Husky sells too much low end junk at lowes for me to bother with them anymore.
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 Год назад
I fell timber professionally for 16 years and can tell you that "oil contamination" on pro saws is all in your heads.
@bassmanjura
@bassmanjura Год назад
Great test! My father and brother are both foresters and they only use Stihl saws, also all most of the lumberjacks they work with. My father still has 20+ year old Stihl saw and using it regularly. The premium price comes back if you plan to keep it and work with wood every year.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@kyles.3514
@kyles.3514 Год назад
I think DeWalt, Echo, Makita, EGO, Stihl and Husqvarna all owe you a lot of money for the increases in sales they have all undoubtedly experienced from your two battery chainsaw vids and now this one. Hopefully you're making enough of an impact to inspire all of the others to step up their games as well! That's exactly why we need more of this in today's world... Fair, unbiased, thorough product comparisons.
@BuckingHorse-Bull
@BuckingHorse-Bull Год назад
there are some things better than money
@jman079707970
@jman079707970 Год назад
Everything is linked in the description. He’s getting paid through affiliate marketing when people purchase one of these products after following his link to the site. Also RU-vid pays creators. Im sure he’s doing just fine for himself.
@bluerisk
@bluerisk Год назад
Over 1 million views by the target group.
@bidenstoletheelection9116
@bidenstoletheelection9116 Год назад
He's making more than enough $ by making these videos as RU-vid pays him for the views and subscribers
@jameskrahn8355
@jameskrahn8355 Год назад
weeellll Makita is the old school Dolmar. one of the best
@namewithheld367
@namewithheld367 Год назад
I bought the Stihl MS180 16” about 12 years ago because I kept seeing them on the professional landscaper trailers. I managed to clear 1.5 acres of property with that little thing, including cutting down eighteen, 26-30” diameter trees. It is still on the original spark plug and air filter and still starts on the third pull even if it sits for a year or two between uses. If I ever have to replace the saw, I’m going with another Stihl.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@Mike-sy6oy
@Mike-sy6oy Год назад
I've currently got the Husqvarna for my property. Clearing strawberry guava is a nightmare but the saw has been holding up perfectly. I would've preferred the Stihl, as those are the saws my brothers wildfire crew run and I've become familiar with them, but couldn't find any on my small island.
@rydplrs71
@rydplrs71 Год назад
You’ll be putting a fuel line in is before to long. It’s well worth the repair when it comes due. With small needle nose you don’t have to take the whole saw apart.
@boiledelephant
@boiledelephant 6 месяцев назад
​@@Mike-sy6oy your life sounds fascinating, you should do a video about your situation/work!
@jameslacey858
@jameslacey858 3 месяца назад
The best saw is the one that starts when you're in need, and I find angle of cutting teeth dictates how well a saw cuts 😅
@schafn
@schafn Год назад
I've always owned Stihl saws but have used Husky, Jonsered, etc. One thing I'll say about Stihl is that they are super easy to work on. You can basically take the whole saw apart with the two tools that come with the saw : the scrench and the L-shaped torx tool. Plus parts are easy to find and readily available.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@1crazypj
@1crazypj Год назад
I agree with that, did a lot of Stihl motors when working at a hire company. I still have the extra long Stihl torx in my tool chest (and the carb adjusting screwdriver that came with them new), found it again a few days ago looking for something completely different (don't get into tools much since retiring)
@ttommytom
@ttommytom Год назад
@@1crazypj #27
@SUBASHMURMU-u6p
@SUBASHMURMU-u6p 10 месяцев назад
Which best chainsaw machine your choice
@Phvdegb47
@Phvdegb47 5 месяцев назад
I’ve burned wood for over 40;years. Most of these saws are throw away saws. If you want a saw, buy a professional grade saw. It might cost more, but you will not regret it! Stihl never fails.
@chrissartain4430
@chrissartain4430 Год назад
As a certified arborist of 27 years I have used both Stihl, Husqvarna medium sized saws above but small Echo's as climbing saws. All 3 are extremally well built & Long listings machines... Great Video !!
@Fr3sh-Kush
@Fr3sh-Kush Год назад
Husqvarna equipment is just as nice as Stihl. I prefer them for concrete saws because 90% of the time it takes one pull starts almosy every time😁
@1crazypj
@1crazypj Год назад
Good to know as I need a new chainsaw (still cleaning up from Hurricane Ian last September 😒)
@chayetsylvain1837
@chayetsylvain1837 11 месяцев назад
I haven't tried the gasoline powered Stihl yet. However the battery powered Stihl M5A 220C with AP 300 battery is incredibly efficient. I'm not a professionnal however I was instructed by a Stihl professionnal. I've had it for 5 years now, not a single problem.
@candyman9635
@candyman9635 11 месяцев назад
I'm guessing firewood, the occasional coppice in a field, general garden work ? if so, stick with the electric, they're quiet, they're efficient and if you keep the chain razor sharp the 220c rips. @@chayetsylvain1837
@rbtree
@rbtree 11 месяцев назад
@chrissartain4430 27 years? Cool. I got certified in 1997. Took my test at Whistler Mt. PNW ISA conference in Dec 1996. As I'm mostly retired, after 47 years aloft, I let my cert lapse about 18 months ago. Now the PNW chapter pays my way to the training conferences in exchange for my photography. I have used many saw brands. In order of use and preference, Husky, Stihl, Dolmar, Jonsered, Echo/Shindaiwa/Solo, Homelite, McCullough. I've also run many fully wood-modified saws as they run cooler, cut up to 50-70% faster, and last a long time.
@BooneLuebchow
@BooneLuebchow Год назад
I was a Stijl salesman and owned a few. Nothing will ever make me switch brands. The parts support, ease of fixing, and durability that I’ve seen throughout the years is wild. Should see some of the stuff those climbing saws go through and still run fine.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@j.elliottcole9506
@j.elliottcole9506 Год назад
Agreed. My current Stihl is a second hand 039. I think they stopped making those in 2002. I use a 28" bar and it still runs great. My Husky is a 455 Rancher. I like them both.
@allencrider
@allencrider Год назад
Yeah, the professional tree people in my area all use Stihls.
@maxharter5716
@maxharter5716 Год назад
Main reason my family only ever buys Stihl. We have a MS180 I believe is between 15-20 years old. It's a bit cantankerous to start but it still runs.
@patrickbateman4148
@patrickbateman4148 Год назад
You were a STIHL salesman and you still cant spell the brands name correctly?
@onecookieboy
@onecookieboy Год назад
Stihl and Husqvarna make great saws, their pro ranges are the choice of professional users (logging teams etc.) so that says a lot about their quality, longevity and customer support. A brand that is quite popular here in New Zealand is Shindaiwa (Japanese), they make really high quality outdoor equipment.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@hornetdt
@hornetdt Год назад
Hey Mark. Shindaiwa and Echo are functionally the same brand. You'll occasionally find a tiny difference between the two brands but fundementally the products they produce are identical other than being different colors.
@RobertWCrouch
@RobertWCrouch Год назад
When I worked at a rental company, we exclusively used Shindaiwa for chainsaws, polesaws, power brooms etc. They held up pretty well and I only had one go down due to the customer using straight gas for an extended period (we did get it rebuilt though). Don’t miss the sound of 2 strokes on a daily basis,😅
@onecookieboy
@onecookieboy Год назад
@@hornetdt I didn't know that, interesting. Shindaiwa have always been a bit of a niche brand in NZ, but I always liked them, they have a very unique sound. Echo always seemed to be aimed more towards the home owner, and Shindaiwa more towards the commercial user, but that's just my impression and perhaps just a marketing thing.
@grominwithrob1339
@grominwithrob1339 Год назад
@@hornetdt Spot on. I'm a small engine mechanic and factory trained on Echo equipment. Good reliable value equipment that are easy and cheap to work on.
@StanleyKubick1
@StanleyKubick1 Год назад
As a former Stihl salesman, I agree with these results. But don't sleep on Husky, they build some amazing saws. Both companies guarantee at least 15 years of parts availability and as such, these are lifetime purchases.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@Kmangod
@Kmangod Год назад
Try contacting Husqvarna.... I had trouble with my chainsaw and it was new. Couldn't get person on the phone, and there were no reps close. Since it was a year old I couldn't take it back to Lowe's either. I wound up taking it apart and reassembling it which seemed to fix the starting issue. Later bought a Stihl, a superior chainsaw I must say.
@shalala4571
@shalala4571 Год назад
@@Kmangod i’ve never had issues with contacting them, but maybe it’s because i’m in Sweden where husqvarna is located
@insanospaz
@insanospaz Год назад
I've owned a Stihl since idk when ( at least 10yrs) but if it's ever non-fixable(doubt) I'll give Husky a shot. Chainsaws really do seem to be the "You get what you pay for"
@Kmangod
@Kmangod Год назад
@@insanospaz My recommendation is to stay away for Husq. I have one and a Stihl. There is a huge quality difference. If you're an average Joe then go for it. But if you want something well worth the money then its Stihl forever.
@Prohortico
@Prohortico 5 месяцев назад
As a professional horticulturist/arborist - I do a lot of tree work, but not as much as a full time dedicated arborist who carries an entire arsenal of different sized saws. I needed a single saw I could do everything with including light enough to climb a tree with, but robust enough to drop a 36” tree if needed. When you’re up a tree, the LAST thing you want is a saw that takes more than 3 pulls to start… one pull EVERYTIME when warm. A lot of stop and go when climbing/pruning/removals. I went with the highest end professional saw I could get, a Husqvarna 550xp - LOVE that saw… watching these homeowners models trying to cut through a piece of wood in this video is like torture. 😂 If you can afford it, and if you use a saw more than once a month, I’d go for professional model Stihl or Husqvarna.
@ktyrrell99
@ktyrrell99 Год назад
Had my Stihl Farm Boss for 18 yrs, it’s always been a rockstar. Currently using the aggressive rapid cutting chains, just rips through jobs😁👍 If it ever fails, would never consider anything else.
@warped2875
@warped2875 Год назад
@no name Was it the M-Tronic computerized carb? My local independent Stihl dealer won't sell them unless the customer insists on one. I guess the issue with the early M-Tronics was a failure to re-start when hot/warmed up, that is supposedly not a big issue now.
@quiksilv81
@quiksilv81 Год назад
I have a newer farm boss and it has worked flawless.
@toddfry7861
@toddfry7861 Год назад
I've had a farm boss for 22 years. It has been such a good saw I bought a sthil 391. The new bigger saw has had problems running since day one and can not keep up with the old farm boss.
@Charlie-ub2jf
@Charlie-ub2jf Год назад
exactly old stihlc saws last and keep performing over the years and iive been offered almost has much has i paid when it was new but cant sell my baby ,
@markwithers7790
@markwithers7790 Год назад
My dad had a Farm Boss for 5 years. After he died it sat unused for another 3 or 4 years.. I didnt even put in new fuel..!! It started on the 2nd pull..!!! Its been doing all my heavy work for the last 6 years without a hitch. I wouldn't have a different saw.
@graybeard2113
@graybeard2113 Год назад
I have a 18" Husqvarna that's over 20 yrs old, farm and ranch use. Had a bunch of storm damage this past year, and switched over to the newer Xcut Husqvarna chain. What a difference. It's easily cutting at the speeds you're showing for the Stihl, and most of my cutting is Bois' Darc /hedge apple. Can't argue with 20yrs usage and still going.. Thank the Good Lord!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@chriscarter9673
@chriscarter9673 27 дней назад
Don't buy a newer husky, they're the same as a poulan
@hippo-potamus
@hippo-potamus Год назад
I have a Stihl MS250 and it has performed flawlessly for over 10+ years. Well worth the cost
@tubastuff
@tubastuff Год назад
I've got an 032AV and it's performed well for, um, 40+ years... There have been some great old saws. I still occasionally use my Homelite XL. McCullough used to make some fine saws before they went down the drain. Sachs-Dolmar also.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@steveb6103
@steveb6103 Год назад
30 plus here.
@thedude8976
@thedude8976 Год назад
I have 3 290's actually one is a 029 same saw just older. Best saw for the money hands down
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 Год назад
I have a ms170 and despite it being a cheap home gamer saw I've beat the hell out of it for almost a decade cutting Australian hardwoods and it still runs perfectly
@mikelastpass689
@mikelastpass689 Год назад
I've had a Husqvarna 445 18" for years and always starts quickly & cuts extremely well especially with a sharp chain .
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@baddad3469
@baddad3469 4 месяца назад
The Husky 445 is has a 50cc engine vs the 440's 40cc engine and is one reason I bought the 445 as well. This test should have been run with the Husqvarna 445, not the 440. The Husky 445 is closer to the price of the Stihl in this video than the 440. Not quite apples to apples in this test.
@ahdofu
@ahdofu Год назад
Another excellent review. For me durability is huge a factor. I had a Poulan Pro unit and after two years I grew impatient with its issues. For my next chainsaw, I went with Stihl and that was more than a decade ago. It is yet to let me down. It was certainly more expensive to begin with but as you duly noted, buy once and cry once.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@666dynomax
@666dynomax Год назад
good choice, nothing more frustrating than a saw that won't start. homeowner, but i don't have time to fiddle with things that don't work properly or well. Stihl 362 going on 12 years countless chains, and still works like a top, AFTER i got rid of the bosch plugs... for some reason that year or that dealer stuck a bosch plug in it, damn thing would never start... got talking to a different dealer one day on a different mission asked me what kind of plug was in it... all he said was "theres your problem"
@JasonFrankenstein
@JasonFrankenstein Год назад
After using borrowed Homelite and Poulan saws, I went out and got a Stihl. Turned out to be a great decision! Got the little ms170 and it's one angry little beaver! 🦫
@milk-it
@milk-it Год назад
Absolutely awesome test! I love the inclusion of the electric chainsaw to put it in perspective. Just once I'd love to see a behind-the-scenes video that goes into the making of your reviews! You've got some serious gear holding those logs and the attention to detail in maintaining consistency during testing certainly would be interesting to hear about how you maintain it for your testing. Top stuff, as always!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thank you! Thanks for the suggestion.
@camro210
@camro210 Год назад
@@ProjectFarm I'd love to see a video on soft shackles - maybe a couple of the most reputable off-road brands (e.g. Warn/Factor55/BubbaRope/YankumRopes), couple less-reputable off-road brands (e.g. Smittybilt/Rough Country/etc), Harbor Freight, and a few popular/cheaper Amazon ones. 👍
@jamescampbell4313
@jamescampbell4313 Год назад
@@camro210 yes! Great idea! Test the ropes too!
@AutodidactEngineer
@AutodidactEngineer Год назад
I've had my Sachs Dolmar 120 for over 18 years, never did any major engine rebuilds. As a matter of fact I got it from my father back in 1998, back in his day he used it 10-15 years, it still has the factory 49mm piston(68cc)! Apart from the scuffed/banged up paint works great! I use it 2-3 times a week, does what it's supposed to do :). Truly a saw to pass on to generations.
@smileysun9212
@smileysun9212 Год назад
Sachs Dolmar‘s gets my vote & my Dad bought one in the 80’s. Only thing that got replaced was ignition coil besides bar & chains. I was hoping to see a Dolmar/Makita in this test.
@AutodidactEngineer
@AutodidactEngineer Год назад
@@smileysun9212 same :(
@jeremybarrow2455
@jeremybarrow2455 6 месяцев назад
I have an Echo CS-590 that starts on the 3rd pull every time I use it. It’s a beast of a saw, but, it’s too big for brush cutting the yard. I just bought a Stihl MS-170 today. I’ve burned a full tank of fuel with it and it’s been a joy to use for small stuff. Highly recommended!
@DigitalN
@DigitalN Год назад
The Stihl is definitely in a league of its own, but the electric echo did better than I expected! Very impressive
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@Pptxy
@Pptxy Год назад
@ProjectFarm Please review DIY HVLP paint sprayer. Homeright super finish max, Graco 360vsp, Wagner flexio Yattich. For sprainig furniture wall and cars
@briananderson7497
@briananderson7497 Год назад
Electric saws have come a long way. Especially for homeowners. They have a long ways to go to match higher end Pro saws, but for your average homeowner who cuts and bucks a few trees a year, electric seems to be the way to go.
@RickJohnson
@RickJohnson Год назад
@@briananderson7497 I went this route for that very reason. Corded because I inevitably use it so rarely that the batteries lose capacity due to age before they do charge cycles.
@TgWags69
@TgWags69 Год назад
Won't ever buy a Husqvarna again. B ought one from lowes. Never would run right from the second year i owned it. Spent so much time working on it. New carbs everything! Just would bog and wouldn't run once warmed up. Ended up buying an electric one that fits the same battery as my wife's weed wacker.
@bowlander
@bowlander Год назад
With the top three saws, the chain makes a HUGE difference. The Husqvarna/stihl/echo would probably be more evenly matched if they all used the same chain.
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid Год назад
Well the Stihl is also a 45 cc saw, the Husky a 40cc, but you're right.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@bigpardner
@bigpardner Год назад
@@ChrisGilliamOffGrid The Echo is 40.2 cc., although they make a 45 cc model.
@haneyoakie14
@haneyoakie14 Год назад
The Salem Master would be an excellent choice for someone who just had storm damage, needs to clean up, and my never need a saw again. Or as a loaner saw to relatives that you don’t trust enough to loan your Echo, Husqvarna, or Stihl saw to.
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid Год назад
@@haneyoakie14 Possibly, but I had to use my Makita 7900 with it's 28 inch bar a good bit after Sally. These oaks and pecan trees down here get pretty big. $1000 saw more than paid for itself tho.
@MojoPup
@MojoPup Год назад
A few years back, I went to help one of my sisters with storm damage after a hurricane. Wanted to buy a Stihl due to past experience, but money was a little tight...so went with the Echo. Overall, very impressed. The only issue I had was with the restrictive muffler system they were required to install, really slowed down the response time. Once I 'corrected' that issue, it ran great. Very easy to start and fairly strong. Should've never gave away my Stihl to my BIL out west.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@ryanfarthing8434
@ryanfarthing8434 Год назад
Our farm echo sits alot and it never takes more than 5 pulls with old gas! Best starting saws hands down!
@robertthibodeaux4435
@robertthibodeaux4435 Год назад
@@ryanfarthing8434 my neighbor says the same thing about his echo!
@hawks2252
@hawks2252 Год назад
I have an Echo CS 590 about 3 years old. I have cut about 20 cords so far and felled a few large trees. No problems so far (knock on wood). I heard about opening up the muffler system to really make it go, but don't want to fix something that is working well.
@tomparth3398
@tomparth3398 Год назад
Ya, I bought a echo, timber wolf.Great running saw,56cc lot of power.I have a smaller stiel.that one works good too...
@OfficialNapTime
@OfficialNapTime Год назад
I went and purchased a Stihl MS250 because of this video and it's been amazing. I had a Poulan Wild Thing 2375 I got for free (still overpaid) that was causing me to spend more time working on the chainsaw than working on my land. I'd be down 20 minutes for every hour of work--and that was on a good day. It was awful. The Stihl has been great. Thank you.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@wtichenor91
@wtichenor91 Год назад
I know it would probably be really expensive to pull off, but if you did a side by side comparison of a bunch of truck winches, that would be an epic testing video.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the suggestion.
@rbhe357
@rbhe357 Год назад
Ditto. Funny how these videos always seem to inevitably appear as I'm considering buying something.
@davidscott5903
@davidscott5903 Год назад
Great idea!
@dannymccraw4841
@dannymccraw4841 Год назад
I second this
@MrMjwaggoner
@MrMjwaggoner Год назад
Yes, this!
@roberthoffman4713
@roberthoffman4713 Год назад
I like the fact that you included a very budget friendly saw. The fact that it turned out to be a decent saw was a bonus. After this review, I bet the price goes up.
@GianmarioScotti
@GianmarioScotti Год назад
Based on construction quality (as reported here), I doubt it. About 100% of people buy chainsaws looking at long-term durability and reliability. You do not want to have plastic piece fly off while you're on location.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Год назад
@@GianmarioScotti yeah, those saws have been around and reviewed for a while... They work, they are great for a homeowner, but not of high quality. More of storm cleanup and casual use... I wouldn't buy one to cut firewood with. I'd buy one over a poulan if I had to, but not over anything else.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@legallyfree2955
@legallyfree2955 Год назад
@@GianmarioScotti Yeah, even good quality chainsaws are still complex machines that break down often enough, when travelling some distance to go wood cutting we always pack 2 medium sized chainsaws, a small chainsaw and an axe with wedges (usually to rescue a stuck chainsaw). It's very unlikely we will get through 2 days worth of cutting without a single chainsaw going down. However this is also in Australia with some pretty hard hardwoods that love to gum things up with their finer dust.
@muddybadgers5205
@muddybadgers5205 Год назад
The Salem Master appeared to be a Zenoah 5800 clone saw. A lot of them exist in the $150-200 price range. I doubt the Salem Master price will go up due to competition. I actually have a different brand of the "same saw" and it's been 100% reliable. It's very strong and pulls hard with a simple muffler mod and base gasket delete. And some pretty light port work wakes it up even more
@seansullivan3795
@seansullivan3795 Год назад
As always great video! Another thing to consider is the availability of replacement parts. Stihl, husqvarna and echo are probably the only saws with readily available parts.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Good Point!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Год назад
Very true. Although anymore, people don't really fix anything, it breaks they throw it away because it ain't the newest latest model.
@kayak_homie
@kayak_homie Год назад
@@wildbill23c nowadays newer model usually = lesser quality
@AdmiralDG
@AdmiralDG Год назад
@@kayak_homie And yet most people dont care, like the other commenter said, they just throw it away. I read a review for an unrelated product, where the customer liked the item but said it was difficult to clean. I qoute "but its so cheap, I just throw it away after its dirty...". People have no respect for the planet, or themselves anymore. Or so it seems from my small sample data :/
@unimog401
@unimog401 Год назад
You can get most parts from oregon
@BillFreeman-e1n
@BillFreeman-e1n 9 месяцев назад
BE CAREFUL WITH SALEM MASTER! No slight to PF, your reviews are great. After this review we ordered a Salem Master from their website. They billed us but never sent the saw. Despite repeated contact attempts, we were ignored. Their Facebook page is full of complaints of their not answering email and call inquiries. Their website has inexplicably kept the Salem Master title, but is now featuring some sort of exercise bicycles. If you do purchase a Salem Master, I'd recommend doing it through a legitimate dealer where you are assured of the integrity of the seller. How Salem Master will handle subsequent warranty and support problems is anyone's guess. Thanks again for a great channel, PF!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 9 месяцев назад
You are welcome!
@GoHerd2001
@GoHerd2001 Год назад
I have a little older version of the Stihl MS250 and I've found that I just barely need to pull the string to start it vs. yanking the whole string out. Tremendous saw. Chainsaws are one of those things where you get what you paid for. Generally, the more expensive the saw, the better quality and longer lasting. However, the results of that Salem Master are very impressive for the price!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@jonathansherwood5841
@jonathansherwood5841 Год назад
I did not expect the two top gas chainsaws to be on opposite ends of the price spectrum like that! Stihl is in a league of its own and is the best hands down. Salem Master put out a great showing for the price, well done on their part. Thanks again, Todd! 🐺🔧
@rudyjanke5942
@rudyjanke5942 Год назад
If stihl would fix their oil and gas caps they would have no competition, those twist lock caps just plain suck
@bryce340v8
@bryce340v8 Год назад
Stihl corporate customer service absolutely sucks!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thank you!
@jimbo3615
@jimbo3615 Год назад
The best gas trimmer I’ve owned is (still) a Stihl. But it started with the dealer taking one off the shelf, putting some non-ethanol gas & oil in it, starting it and giving it a quick tune. Big box stores don’t do that…
@crandonborth
@crandonborth Год назад
@@rudyjanke5942 The Husqvarna ones let tons of dirt in as well, and my saw the oil fill is behind the handle. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@Funzone49
@Funzone49 Год назад
Stihl chainsaws do require lots of torque to pull over, but fortunately for the consumer they offer an alternative method on some models called Easy2Start. This system utilizes two springs, one is the traditional recoil spring, and the other, when the rope is pulled, is put under load until the point where the strength of the spring overcomes the engine compression. What I would recommend, if you wish to make a video about this feature, is buying a model MS180 and a model MS180C, the two have some differences, one being Easy2Start vs a traditional pull start. But otherwise they have the same size engine and bar and chain. Love your videos, keep up the good work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video idea.
@silverbackag9790
@silverbackag9790 3 месяца назад
Get a Stihl pro model; they have compression releases at all sizes except the tiny arborist saws.
@rmcdaniel423
@rmcdaniel423 Год назад
To anyone buying their first chainsaw, I'll add this bit of advice: Part of your decision should include what shop you are going to rely on for future maintenance and repairs. For my money, Stihl and Husqvarna are both awesome products and the choice between them is often subjective preference. However, my preferred local shop is a Husqvarna shop, so my most recent purchase was that brand.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@TheDwightMamba
@TheDwightMamba Год назад
Solid advice. I don't cut often, so I went with the 18" EGO. Oregon replacements for the bar and chains. 16" & 14" compatibility. 3 years in and nothing has broken. Not so much as a chain skip. An old friend has a Husky and the thing starts on every 1st pull. I don't miss the noise though.
@Kiowan918
@Kiowan918 Год назад
The crazy thing is, when i needed a chainsaw, the Stihl was the best deal, it was only $200 Canadian for the MS170 and that included set up and tune up, the chinese saws were 150-300+ for things i'd never heard of with no support or reviews, one of the few no brainer purchase decisions i've had to make.
@kyleinthought
@kyleinthought Год назад
Good advice for most mechanical equipment
@sureshots8155
@sureshots8155 Год назад
100% agree. Both stihl and husqvarna are great saws.
@samwinglewich2133
@samwinglewich2133 Год назад
I had that Echo and that stihl for years. The Stihl was indeed faster and "funner" but the Echo seemed more durable. They both made lots of money for me as a pro landscaper but I grabbed the Echo when a windstorm and wildfire struck and I came to the aid of friends and neighbors. I ran it along with my big Echo 620 for hours and hours. and both were unrecognizable, coated in pitch and debris, but the tanks and air intake were clean as new when I took it apart for maintenance. As you would say, "very impressive!"
@slasher9883
@slasher9883 Год назад
I have used Echo and Stihl extensively over the years and have always found Echo to be be more reliable and better made, but Stihl generally has more grunt. I do prefer Echo as I have had lots of issues with modern Stihl equipment, mainly due to Stihl cheaping out on a lot of parts (like carburettors).
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@mrtree1368
@mrtree1368 Год назад
The cs 400 is a great saw for its size but I wouldn't put an 18 inch on it 16 at the max really if you wanted an 18 inch chainsaw you'd want atleast a cs 4510 or a 490 and you can get those for under 300 on ebay
@tavv17
@tavv17 Год назад
I have ECHO chainsaw and Husqvarna trimmer/brush cutter, all good, but i liked legendary husqvarna 254 until it got too old to find spareparts. Even sthil 261 was very good after my best after husq got retired. Now its ECHO time and im not dissapointed it peformace, CS-501SX its its name.
@waterbourne9282
@waterbourne9282 Год назад
@@tavv17 Me too on the 501. Was initially keen on the S261 because I have lots of other Stihl gear, looked at the H550, but in the end went with the E501. Beautifully lightweight and torquey.
@tomoaktree4951
@tomoaktree4951 Год назад
Your reviews have become the GOLD STANDARD for product testing! Keep up the awesome videos!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks, will do!
@HaroldCombs
@HaroldCombs Год назад
+1. You’ve managed to put consumer reports out of business.
@Bob_Adkins
@Bob_Adkins Год назад
They were from the very beginning.
@cjr4497
@cjr4497 7 дней назад
I have been having an ECHO CS 400 for 7 years. It is an amazing saw. It has been very well used and never gave me a single issue. It is also very good on fuel. I did the muffler mod the other day just before cutting a trailer load of rounds. It gave this saw a noticeable power boots, and didn't make it burn any more fuel. The CS400 is basically a professional level saw.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 дней назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@electronicsNmore
@electronicsNmore Год назад
You always go way above and beyond when you perform product tests. Great video! A++
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thank you very much! This means a lot to me!!
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing Год назад
I found that upgrading the chain on cheap saws made a huge difference. Most come with an Oregan chain which isn't too bad, but changing to a good Stihl chain would really help.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@jeladsnikpoh1289
@jeladsnikpoh1289 Год назад
I found that the Oregon chain was a huge upgrade from whatever junk came with my Ryobi! It was the best value for the $, based on my interpretation of Project Farm's testing in another excellent video.
@1one3_Racing
@1one3_Racing Год назад
@jelad Snikpoh Oregon do make a good chain, they also make a cheap chain! Same for Stihl. It's possible to match the wrong chain with the wrong saw too. I'm pretty bad with maintenance and looking after things so I used to buy $70 saws and take them into a shop to have good chains made. They would be ok for a year or so! And when I bit dirt I still had the factory chain as a backup
@ElementofKindness
@ElementofKindness Год назад
Stihl chains, for whatever reason, have proven absolutely superior to all other brands, in my experience.
@risajajr
@risajajr Год назад
Interesting. I find the Oregon chains to be as good as the Stihl ones. What matters most is whether they are full chisel or semi-chisel and, of course, whether they are sharp. Brand new, both perform extremely well on red and white oak. After some usage, performance comes down to whether you have sharp chains.
@markdietrichcochran2274
@markdietrichcochran2274 Год назад
Stihl chainsaws have been my favorite saws for my entire professional and personal life. You can't go wrong with them. But if you're just using them occasionally and don't want to spend the money for one then I would go with the Echo. They've really stepped up their saw game over the past few years and are way easier to start than either the Stihl or Husqvarna.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@lestermullen3248
@lestermullen3248 Год назад
Watched the video, but already knew that Stihl was the king of chainsaws!
@thedude8976
@thedude8976 Год назад
I agree STHIL all the way their farm/ ranch saws are superior husky box store saws. Those are orange pouland's absolute garbage..
@grominwithrob1339
@grominwithrob1339 Год назад
Agree 100%.
@silverstar4289
@silverstar4289 Год назад
If a person doesn’t use their saw often, then the battery powered saw is the best option. No worries about failure to start after not running for four months.
@Adanacon
@Adanacon Год назад
Love the hard work and dedication that goes into your videos. Keep up the good work. I love my Echo saws! Most saws need their carbs tweaked from the factory due to altitude etc. I gained huge rpm after retuning my saw from the factory settings. This includes my cheap Chinese arbor saw which is now a beast for $100!
@Echowhiskeyone
@Echowhiskeyone Год назад
I have been using Stihl for over 30 years now. I have used many different saws over time; Husky, Echo, Homelite, Jonsered. The Stihl has impressed me time and time again. Not always the best, but the most consistent and easiest to repair in the field. Also, most professionals I know use Stihl or Husky, all for good reason.
@MichiganMitch23
@MichiganMitch23 Год назад
If you cut heavy and hard the stihls clutches go out I’m a husky man and wouldn’t ever buy a rebranded piece of shit 440 everyone who knows saws knows that this want fair that’s not a real husky that’s like buying a John Deere from Lowe’s and calling that a real John Deere it’s and MTD
@Echowhiskeyone
@Echowhiskeyone Год назад
@@MichiganMitch23 I have had an 044 for a long time, my favorite saw, heavy as ever and has never failed. The newer Stihls are hit and miss. I have a 10 year old 390 and a newer 180, both are good. Also have a 290 that is one of the biggest pieces of crap, gonna find something to trade it for.
@willmiller9631
@willmiller9631 Год назад
@@Echowhiskeyone that's sad to hear.. I have a 290 that absolutely rips. Starts first or second pull every time. Eats wood for breakfast lunch & dinner
@willmiller9631
@willmiller9631 Год назад
@Echo Whiskey however I did end up buying a husq 372xp with a big bore kit so it's 76.6cc now instead of 71. Quite a difference between 56.5 and 76.6 lol.
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 Год назад
Having worked on many huskys and stihls, I think the huskys are easier to work on.. they are both very good saws though and most of the repairs I've done has just been cleaning carbies out and the occasional full rebuild after 20 years of almost daily abuse in Australian hardwoods
@johnpulse3034
@johnpulse3034 Год назад
Have an Echo. Years old,no problems,starts every time. Great saw !
@i1bike
@i1bike Год назад
They are made a bit weaker, to survive wear and tear and to save engine. BUT, thats why they can be ported to crazy numbers. Echo is amazing !
@Kent-pb2jl
@Kent-pb2jl Год назад
I'd love to see a final showdown with homeowner, ranch grade then pro grade and see how they compare. Certainly a price difference. Love the channel, always innovate ways to test stuff I'd never think of.
@python3574
@python3574 Год назад
The Stihl 500i would also blow away the rest of the competition
@s.whitaker1120
@s.whitaker1120 Год назад
I would think the pro saws would only shine in weight at first, but stand alone in the long run.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@valdman123zxz
@valdman123zxz Год назад
Husqvarna 560 would be rather good for this
@billpanop383
@billpanop383 Год назад
@@valdman123zxz I own the Husqvarna 560, it's a great saw. My neighbor owns a Stihl 311, although a little more expensive than my Husqvarna, it's a better saw. At retail price, I'd pay the extra money for the Stihl. You can occasionally find a Husqvarna on sale, but never Stihl. At a sale price, the Husqvarna wins out.
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627
@tgsgardenmaintenance4627 Год назад
Being just a self-employed gardener, I don't use chainsaws that much. Still have my first chainsaw, which is a small Hitachi , it still runs and cuts relatively well, upgraded a few years ago to a Husqvarna 455 Rancher. It's quite heavy, but does everything I need!!
@internet_internet
@internet_internet 11 месяцев назад
Nice choice in upgrade
@MrEunderwood
@MrEunderwood Год назад
My old man has always bought Stihl and they never let us down. I took a gamble at Lowe's in the aftermath of hurricane Ida and bought my first saw. They had a half-off deal on the Husky 545 Mk2 Professional. I've put it through its paces on my little piece of land and it's a damn good saw.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@Wittyusername82
@Wittyusername82 Год назад
That Stihl is one of the best performing saws for the money. I had one for over 10 years and it was flawless. Only upgraded for a bit more power. Wish I had kept it.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@commonsence8223
@commonsence8223 Год назад
My 250 has cut close to 50 cords in the last 6 years. Thing does not quit!!! It does struggle on bigger logs in terms of cut speed. I just grabbed a Ms400 to get the job done a bit quicker and keeping the 250 of course!
@Wittyusername82
@Wittyusername82 Год назад
@@ProjectFarm love your videos!
@Wittyusername82
@Wittyusername82 Год назад
@@commonsence8223 nice upgrade! I grabbed the MS261. Similar size and weight to the MS250 but more powerful and less vibration.
@NinjaBurg3r
@NinjaBurg3r Год назад
I don't have brand loyalty for many companies, but Stihl is the exception when it comes to chainsaws. I've used tons of different saws, and the first time I used a commercial grade Stihl I was legitimately blown away at what a fantastic machine it was. Look at what professional lumberjacks use for their day-to-day work, and it's almost exclusively Stihl chainsaws. As always - fantastic comparisons and analysis!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks!
@Centermass762
@Centermass762 Год назад
I really don't even consider it brand loyalty. If somebody built a better saw, I'd buy theirs. I just so happens that Stihl makes the best damn affordable medium duty chainsaw on the market. I'd call it "good product loyalty." 😁
@Deere2154D
@Deere2154D Год назад
@@Centermass762 even professional grade stihl is the best
@peterburkey3740
@peterburkey3740 Год назад
stihl is the best saw by far, hands down. If you want to cut wood. :)
@Centermass762
@Centermass762 Год назад
@@Deere2154D that's good to hear. I've never used their larger commercial models so I couldn't comment on those.
@markpomeroy39
@markpomeroy39 Год назад
Thank you! I have been buying Stihl for years, but was hoping there was a cheaper alternative. Apparently not without sacrificing serious benefits.
@cantbuyrespect
@cantbuyrespect Год назад
yea there is look up holzfforma
@jimm1819
@jimm1819 10 месяцев назад
@@cantbuyrespect Where do you get parts for it?
@cantbuyrespect
@cantbuyrespect 10 месяцев назад
@@jimm1819 you can use Stihl or Husqvarna parts depending on which model being that they are clones of them.
@iamzid
@iamzid Год назад
i bought my husqvarna in 2009 and it's still running strong with very little maintenance. the only saws that i've worked beside that seemed to out preform mine were the stihls, but mine cost a few hundred less than a comparable stihl. i think they're both good saws and either are a good recommendation.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@normcook9335
@normcook9335 Год назад
For smaller saws, lower weight is an important feature to reduce fatigue. Next I'd be looking for anti-vibration features and durability - I'd either for the Stihl or Husky too.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@Dawid0912
@Dawid0912 Год назад
anti-vibration features are very impornant, for pro's who can get Vibration white finger and even for regual people who just use it only for thier own fireplace. My professor who was in 40s already had it and he is not phisical worker. There is no price for your health
@izsaf
@izsaf Год назад
Thanks for the work you do as always! Any chance you could do a video testing heat guns? It'd be good to know temperature control, area, loudness etc.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thank you for the video idea! I'll do it if there's enough interest.
@Jonathan-ei7vp
@Jonathan-ei7vp Год назад
Great suggestion
@danielcarlson8321
@danielcarlson8321 Год назад
Heat guns are vital in heat shrink, soldering wires with solder-shield splices.
@Pptxy
@Pptxy Год назад
@@ProjectFarm Please review DIY HVLP paint sprayer. Homeright super finish max, Graco 360vsp, Wagner flexio Yattich.
@GOAT_GOATERSON
@GOAT_GOATERSON Год назад
@@Pptxy dude, calm down, he need some time to react to all the reactions lol
@jamesa6272
@jamesa6272 11 месяцев назад
I bought the echo cs400 last year. Every time I use it I’m more and more impressed with it. Take some material out of the mufflers cat and the thing will be an animal. After using it the saw gets better and better each time as it breaks in. I was very very impressed with the cs400. Never gave me a problem starting either. Thanks again for the testing!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 месяцев назад
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@HFG
@HFG Год назад
After owning about 4 different cheap saws I broke down and bought a Stihl 271. It was like holding onto a dragster compared the other others that I had. Love it.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@bradb_in_Iowa
@bradb_in_Iowa Год назад
Couldn't agree more. Turned to Stihl 8 years ago and haven't turned back. If you haven't discovered the carbide tipped Duro chains, I highly recommend them. More expensive to start but stay sharp a LOT longer --- only downside is you need a diamond tipped sharpener. My local shop does it for $8
@lloydnewman5285
@lloydnewman5285 Год назад
I've got a 271,hate it, want run, about had a heart attack trying to start it. Oyea it's only about 2 years old I hate it 😢😢
@bradb_in_Iowa
@bradb_in_Iowa Год назад
@@lloydnewman5285 Sorry to hear this! Sounds like there may be something wrong with your carb if it isn't starting. Stihl's predictably start on the 3rd pull after priming, so what you're experiencing doesn't seem right. I would have it checked out. The non-stop pulling is awful, so I definitely empathize with you.
@lloydnewman5285
@lloydnewman5285 Год назад
@@bradb_in_Iowa Thanks for the information, ℹ️ worked on Cummins mechanic for 40yrs, that was what I was thinking the carb, a friend of mine owns the shop I bought it from I talked to him about it I had it with me so he wanted to see if he could get it running he did after about 10 pulls, it was blowing alot of fuel out the exhaust he said I had gotten it flooded it had been sitting for 12hrs can't believe he didn't say leave it with me and I would check it out, he said nothing, I tried this morning it tried to start I took the choke off still nothing about Fed up with this 500.00 dollar saw, I still think it has a carb problem.
@scootypooper
@scootypooper Год назад
Most of the Husqvarna manufacturing facilities are concentrated in Sweden and other Scandinavian countries. They also have subsidiaries in France and Germany. Next in line are the USA and China, each with 6 production plants. Brazil has one Husqvarna manufacturing plant. It’s most likely that your Husqvarna chainsaw is made up of components sourced from more than one of these countries. For example, the wildly popular Husqvarna 455 Rancher is made mostly in Sweden. The power head is manufactured in Sweden and then shipped to the US where a locally manufactured Oregon bar is fitted. Even then, no one can be sure whether some of the components are manufactured in China, possibly even Brazil, and then sent to the European or US plants for assembly.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@amoeb81
@amoeb81 Год назад
People expect from a brand to have consistent quality.
@SolidStateWorkshop
@SolidStateWorkshop Год назад
I have a mid level Husqvarna battery trimmer (225il). Made in Vietnam. Don’t really care where it’s made, but if a company moves to Vietman or India these days, that means that they are chasing lowest possible labor costs. (i.e. China is too expensive for them!) Doesn’t mean the product is bad, just gives an idea about the company’s mentality.
@davenhla
@davenhla Год назад
@@SolidStateWorkshop Vietnam's economy is growing rapidly and their labor cost might be low but it affords them a comfortable life due to cost of living differences. I suspect this will change over time and I hope companies invested over there will stick with them even if costs go up. Related, they also don't seem to share china's "me first" attitude in regards to money and tendency to do as little as required to make sure profit is maximized. In short, if you don;t spell out EXACTLY what you require from china they will screw you over, whereas Vietnam seems to have at least some sense of pride in their work and desire for their customers to be happy with what they get. I think they are more related to Japan's economic mindset then china. I can't speak to India. Seems to vary by industry. So I guess I wouldn't rule out a Vietnam product right off the bat. I prefer stuff from the US when I can, but "not china" has become my second criteria when looking just because of quality and reliability and consistency reason. Vietnam doesn't make me second guess.
@SolidStateWorkshop
@SolidStateWorkshop Год назад
​@@davenhla​The only reason companies are moving there in the first place is because labor is cheap...cheaper than China namely. They will leave Vietnam just like they left every other country whose manufacturing industry they built up, and then left when wages rose as a result of improved quality of life. I am wary of trying to relate the culture of a people to quality of product. Generally, a good quality product can be made anywhere, given a well defined specification, quality system, and so on. There are plenty of high end manufacturers in China who do great work. And there are crappy ones too. Same applies to the Vietnam, US, Germany and so on! Like I mentioned, not that concerned about where it was made. Rather - if a company is constantly chasing the lowest possible labor market, what does this tell you about what they value in the first place? Sure, you can argue that they want to keep labor low so that they can use good quality components/materials and sell at a reasonable cost. Possible, yes. But, not my experience (usually).
@muleb384
@muleb384 Год назад
If you buy a Poulan for shoulder strain, you have to take into account the fact that the older the saw gets, the more pulls you need. You'll just keep Poulan and Poulan until the thing starts. Top 5 most common repair on a Poulan is replacing the pull start cord.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@BooneLuebchow
@BooneLuebchow Год назад
Stihl makes an easy start model of the 250 with a spring assisted pull. Takes about 3 times less force to pull it. More delicate but much easier!
@joetolopino7126
@joetolopino7126 Год назад
I'm a long time Stihl customer. Glad to see you agree it's a good investment. I got a Ryobi brushless 18v 12" for the little trimming jobs and brush too big for loppers and haven't been disappointed. Lightweight and strong enough for me.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@theninja001
@theninja001 Год назад
I had a friend who had 3-4 Stihl saws, after he used my Echo a few times and saw how much easier it was to start, he trades all his Stihl saws in and got new Echo saws! And I recently inherited my fathers 30 year old Swedish made Husqvarna and its the best saw I’ve ever used!
@markkus1134
@markkus1134 Год назад
Yep my 1998 Husky is the best saw
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@XxTWMLxX
@XxTWMLxX Год назад
I have a 91 Swedish made jonsered (now Husqvarna owned) I got for free it was sitting atleast 10 years. All I got in to it is 10$ for fuel line and a good ol' disassemble to clean. It starts and runs but I cant get it to start in cold or idle very long. It's not set right after I took apart and rebuilt carb. I have it's service manual but can't get it right. No primer and a hell of a lot of compression.
@DonnieDarko727
@DonnieDarko727 Год назад
Very impressive!
@padraicmcguire108
@padraicmcguire108 Год назад
I have a 25 yr old Husky 55 Rancher...made in Sweden. It is was a beast for its day and still runs very well. My only complaint about Husky these days, is its gotten hard to find dealers for the Pro and semi Pro Saws. Tons of dealers for Husky's consumer grade saws. Not so sure of their biz strategy here.
@mrtreevis
@mrtreevis Год назад
Would be interesting to see this test with saws at the 60cc level. I think that's the sweet spot in terms of size between pro and prosumer.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the suggestion.
@mikewest712
@mikewest712 Год назад
Cs600p would make quick work of that test.
@mrtreevis
@mrtreevis Год назад
@@mikewest712 you miss spelled the 562xp ::P
@BLOODnVALOR
@BLOODnVALOR Год назад
But that STIHL ms461 is $1200. Lol. That would be an expensive test.
@G19Jeeper
@G19Jeeper Год назад
@@BLOODnVALOR362 is 59 CC and would be the comparable saw there. One of the best power to weight ratios out there. I have an old 036 PRO and that thing runs like nothing else at 26 years old
@freelancerdetroit102
@freelancerdetroit102 Год назад
This just proves again, that Stihl is really a Brand you can put your money behind. My Dad has two of them Stihl Saws, a small one that by now...has got to be at least 20 years old, the other is a a bigger one, from their Farm Boss Series, and is about 15 years old, both run as smooth as the day they came out of the factory.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Nice!
@z06baron6
@z06baron6 11 месяцев назад
I was helping with cleaning out houses after hurricane Harvey, I removed a STIHL chainsaw from a garage to the street as trash because it had been flooded. I asked the owner of the house if I could take it to fix and return, he refused and said to just take it. I did, disassembled and cleaned down to the carburetor. And the 10 year old STIHL started firing on the 3rd pull. That was 4 years ago. Twice a year I start it to help remove some brush or cut some wood, it has started every time. I also own a STIHL weed eater, 8 years old. Starts every time. Echo I have had some experience with, they are good. STIHL is great. No biases, just proven quality. STIHL is the Toyota of chainsaws
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing.
@guitartec
@guitartec Год назад
Todd, here's an idea for an episode. Test auto sump pumps. Harbor Freight has a portable sump you just put it in a flood area and walk away. It self primes and starts and shuts off automatically. I have one and it works great. Now I can sleep all night long when I know a big storm is coming in the middle of the night so my garage won't flood out. There are others on the market that I didn't get a chance to test or look at the specs, but these drop anywhere auto sump pumps are a lifesaver. You should test them. I'll give you more info if you need it.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thank you for the video idea!
@Darkest-Light
@Darkest-Light Год назад
Excellent idea
@Farm_fab
@Farm_fab Год назад
​@@ProjectFarmyou might include battery backup pumps, too.
@bansheedearg
@bansheedearg Год назад
As someone who has a basement that floods, I've gone through sump pumps and tired of them, they are expensive and disintegrate over time. I really like Rule boat bilge pumps, they are the size of your fist and will pump water quite well, with a float switch, a very good alternative. I currently use a water pump designed for recreational vehicles; it does _not_ sit in the water, and runs at 55 psi which is enough to run pop up emitters to water my lawn. Hence, if I were to see a test on pumping water, I would want to see sumps, boat bilge pumps, and RV water pumps for comparison.
@markshort9098
@markshort9098 Год назад
I use bilge pumps for stuff like that, they self prime, their cheap, they handle a bit of crap, they can run off a battery, they use very little power and they are very reliable.. they also come in various sizes depending on how much water you need to move and if you have a sump area where the pump can sit in an inch of water they can be left on and they'll happily just sit their running and not pumping with just enough water to lube the seals without burning out while waiting for the water to start coming in
@donovanbulmer2041
@donovanbulmer2041 Год назад
Not surprised to see Stihl on top, even after testing this thorough. I've always owned Stihls but this test just makes me feel really good about my last purchase. Great job as always, Todd. I can't even begin to talk about how much money and time your channel has saved me over the last few years!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks!
@charlesmanary2936
@charlesmanary2936 Год назад
We use hardwood to heat our house and my dad has owned the same Stihl saw for over 20 years with no problems cutting in either extreme heat or cold.
@em4703
@em4703 Год назад
Yea and it's even one of their homeowner "cheapo" saw lineup, not their pro models. Still very good and reliable saw, just harder to repair/work on due to the clamshell design and plastic case compared to the pro line.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Год назад
I think Stihl has always been the top dog for chainsaws....followed closely by Husqvarna, and 3rd being Echo. Those box store saws just don't last long....and in my experience those Poulan saws are pure garbage don't even waste your money and time with one.
@Kram2525
@Kram2525 Год назад
My dad bought a Homelite XL12 back in 1978 when we got a woodstove and it's still running strong to this day. It's really an incredible saw.
@richardchase4019
@richardchase4019 Год назад
Early homelights were torque kings and throttle responsive. Excellent saws
@marklindsey4668
@marklindsey4668 Год назад
@kram that's my name too! Does the home light have a little switch on top. My mechanic going some old abandoned chainsaws and the. 1982 home light cranks up with a minimum of work
@C-Culper4874
@C-Culper4874 Год назад
@Richard Chase Yeah, they were. I have an XL that is blue. It will cut with any of them, but I after several hours, I will take my Stihl 026 pro or 066 mag.
@waynejohnson9855
@waynejohnson9855 Год назад
@@richardchase4019 homelite made good saws but tried to go cheap in the 80s and soon were out of the competition.
@philipjohnson2652
@philipjohnson2652 Год назад
I owned one for years; didn't use it all that much but it always started and ran well, even after sitting for a long time with old gas in the tank. My son still uses it today.
@mbrsart
@mbrsart 8 месяцев назад
I got the Poulan because the price was right (before watching this video). It has trouble idling, and I'm not the only one who experiences this. I've heard other people say that it bogs when the throttle is opened. My saw runs fine wide open. For a brand owned by Husqvarna, they don't seem to have very good QC. We shouldn't have to adjust a brand new saw just to get it running.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing.
@ThisTimeTheWorld
@ThisTimeTheWorld Год назад
The first one has a Rim Sprocket, like Echo uses. It's a superior design to the typical clutch flywheel/gear. The rim sprocket design uses a harder metal and prevents notching the clutch wheel (superior tension control and no chain jumping the bar.) Im impressed to see it on a cheap import.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@dogleg6669
@dogleg6669 Год назад
Rim sprocket is a necessary upgrade on any saw that doesn't come with one.
@codychickadee5095
@codychickadee5095 Год назад
Well said
@jasonhw00
@jasonhw00 Год назад
My Echo 600p has that Sprocket, I have had good luck with the Echo and was surprised it didn't do so well; honestly the 400 series looked a bit cheaper than the larger saws like mine did. I have always thought Echo, Husq and Stihl all made great saws though.
@ThisTimeTheWorld
@ThisTimeTheWorld Год назад
@@dogleg6669 how did i live without it! Since i got one i dont want to go back. I last paid 36usd for a stihl star shaped clutch flywheel gear
@kobelcofan
@kobelcofan Год назад
I really like Stihl and echo. I tend to lean towards echo before I've always been happy with how dependable they are and they're really easy to start.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@alexandercopeland2849
@alexandercopeland2849 Год назад
If i was worried about price and warranty I would go with Echo. Can't beat 5 year warranty, but like Stihls to much. I grew up with them.
@kobelcofan
@kobelcofan Год назад
@@alexandercopeland2849 I have a 25 year old Echo blower I use all the time. I like Stihl too I've got a lot of friends who have old Stihl stuff too.
@chrishenicke2052
@chrishenicke2052 Год назад
I own Stihl and Echo saws, both are good! I’ve had to work on my Stihl saws more but they are good. Echo has been the most dependable, starts every time and I’ve put it through hell. Enjoyed the video my man! Happy New Year!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Happy New Year"
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 Год назад
I've owned 3 Stihl's over the last 25yrs. Never had to work on a single one of them. Currently have the MS440, and the MS-201 arborist saw. Lived in hurricane area of Virginia and cut up hundreds of oak trees with them.
@Ridefastorgetpassed
@Ridefastorgetpassed Год назад
@@CaptainRon1913 just replaced the carb on my 190T
@Ridefastorgetpassed
@Ridefastorgetpassed Год назад
I should add my Husqvarna needed a new carb recently too. My Echo runs flawless but its pretty new and I've switched to VP engineered fuel.
@Matt30188
@Matt30188 Год назад
I have 2 echos that are 30 years old and still start but my Stihl is way more powerful and my go to. Doesn't hurt that its 25 years newer 🤷‍♂️😂
@johnnybodangus2529
@johnnybodangus2529 Год назад
I picked up the Poulan pro on sale last year and was a little disappointed with it out of the box. Opening up the air box and muffler and retuning the carb made it much much better though!
@tungus951
@tungus951 Год назад
My personal preference is Echo and Stihl saws for their long-term dependability and power output. Overall, loved the video, keep up the good work.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks, will do!
@davidholdsworth2249
@davidholdsworth2249 Год назад
I have used stihl for years. Yes they are expensive but well worth the money. Great video!👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks!
@ConductorDon
@ConductorDon Год назад
I was honestly surprised that a 140.00 chainsaw did that well. How long it would last of course is another question entirely. What didn't surprise me at all was that Stihl came out on top. I have an MS250 and it's an absolute beast. I was helping a buddy take down a couple of good sized trees on his property a few months ago and it made short work of it. Stihl might be pricey, but there's a reason why most professionals in the tree removal or timber industry use Stihl chainsaws.
@skitidet4302
@skitidet4302 Год назад
The Stihls are great saws, but I would not say most professionals use them. It tends to be highly regional. A brand gets popular in a place and thus the number of repair shops starts to reflect that and then it's inevitable that everyone there use that brand because it's more convenient to get parts for it or get it repaired. Stihl does seem dominant in most of the US, but in Sweden where I live, 99% of professionals I see run Husqvarna. Also, pros do not run the MS250, they use pro-saws. If they wanted Stihl in the 45 ish cc range to do light tree work, they would run a MS 241 C-M, but most professionals do not bother with small saws like that unless we are talking top handle saws meant for climbing. Your normal pro saws start at 50cc for light work, 60cc is your all round compromise saw, 70cc is your professional felling saw, 80 and 90cc are for the real heavy stuff. You also have 120cc saws but those are only really good for specialist tasks like milling or bucking huge logs as their extra weight can not be made up for by their performance.
@SimpleMechanic931
@SimpleMechanic931 Год назад
I bought an Echo cs-310 brand new two years ago and it’s been a great saw the entire time. I’m no arborist or contractor but for the medium trees I have at my house it cuts great. And always starts easy in the cold. For the bigger projects I have my MS-250 Stihl with an 18” bar, which seems to do better against thicker logs on bigger trees. Together they make a great pair.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@darkskies6564
@darkskies6564 8 месяцев назад
Love my MS- 250
@peweter2
@peweter2 Год назад
I am 63 and dad taught me to cut firewood when I was 14. I have used a lot of saws. I used to prefer Stihl until I discovered Echo. The Echo has proven to be the most dependable saw I have ever owned. They are lighter and start 2nd pull every time. Just my experience.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@ddmercantile
@ddmercantile Год назад
Second that. My Echo starts up every time and just has a quality feel to it. Been cutting wood with it for 12 years now.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 10 месяцев назад
Echo has really came up and I like them 😊
@kennethstone2126
@kennethstone2126 Год назад
When I was in the Navy (up in Idaho), special services rented out chain saws so sailors could go out and cut fire wood. Usually, the saws (Poulan or McCulloch), were replaced annually. Finally, I convinced them to spend the money and buy Husqvarna saws. Four (4) years later when I returned to that duty station, those Husqvarna saws were still in service as rentals.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@ahemsa1
@ahemsa1 Год назад
Dad has always liked his Husqvarna so when I needed a saw that is what I bought and have been very happy with it. Not sure how fast it cuts compared to comparable saws, but it just works. I use ethanol free fuel with stabilizer and it doesn't matter if the saw sits for 2 months or 2 years, it works every time, no drama, no BS. I've owned it for close to 15 years now and it has never let me down. I'd of course consider a Stihl, but my experience with Husqvarna is hard to beat.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@vitalikpopov30
@vitalikpopov30 11 месяцев назад
Have to return my 440 after 2 days of use. Took 15 pulls to start and finally day 2 it would not start. To Stihl it is.
@ahemsa1
@ahemsa1 11 месяцев назад
@@vitalikpopov30 that's a shame. I picked mine up last weekend and it started on the 3rd pull and ran flawlessly. It's been sitting for at least 6 months, probably more.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 Год назад
Stihl are very popular here in Australia. A lot of their equipment is used by the professional operators here. If I was working in the forestry industry, I'd buy Stihl. I have used their saws in the past, & found then to be very good
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing.
@voltsnbolts8879
@voltsnbolts8879 Год назад
Same with British Columbia, that said I prefer the huskies.
@dointheokecoke5548
@dointheokecoke5548 Год назад
@@ProjectFarm we pronounce as still v steel i do worry Todd on the wire with the weight on the end, may not end well if the chain grabs it,i know your carefull ,but....
@BlackMamba-lt8oe
@BlackMamba-lt8oe Год назад
Which store can u find them in australia
@dointheokecoke5548
@dointheokecoke5548 Год назад
@@BlackMamba-lt8oe Stihl are everywhere
@Toobooko
@Toobooko Год назад
Great video. I have a 18inch Craftsman I bought 3 yrs ago for $125 (before inflation) and its still running strong. Its used for light duty and 8-12 inch trees. I also have a Husqvarna 455 Farm Tough for the bigger trees and that thing is a beast! Love your videos. Keep up the great work!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks, will do! Thanks for sharing.
@MrJacobrestes
@MrJacobrestes Год назад
Parts availability for future maintenance and repair should be a major concern with chainsaws. It really helps justify the price of the more expensive ones when you can repair and maintain them even after 10+ years
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Good Point!
@eisenkrieg553
@eisenkrieg553 Год назад
Especially since some of us will be living in ban states like California. Funny that, "ban states" used to refer to prohibited guns and features and now it's including so much more these days.
@joshuaatkins5197
@joshuaatkins5197 Год назад
Totally agree. It's just started to get hard to find parts for my old 075 AV. Luckily I can get many of the parts out of Stihls concrete saws
@DeadNoob451
@DeadNoob451 Год назад
@@eisenkrieg553 You know its cali when people have to start smuggling tools but are free to steal stuff.
@jayss10
@jayss10 Год назад
I personally own a MS250 and for it's size it's been a really good saw. I purchased it close to 8 years ago for just a hair over $300. Felled alot of trees and done alot of cleanup on both my property and my parents property. The MS250 has been in Stihl's lineup for probably close to 10 years at this point and the reason you still see it out there is because the design just holds up and works.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@kobelcofan
@kobelcofan Год назад
That saw today would be like $500.
@M8NTIS
@M8NTIS Год назад
@@kobelcofan Did you actually watch the video, it's listed as $400 constantly.
@M00SEM0T0
@M00SEM0T0 Год назад
Stihl has been making variants of the MS250 since 1991 and even updated it recently with the MS251 but the MS250 is so popular they still make it to this day, perfect all around saw for most people
@derrick9653
@derrick9653 Год назад
@@M00SEM0T0 The MS250 is simply a better saw than the 251. For the active homeowner or small firewood work the MS250 is a really good saw. I have a small tree farm and it is one of my less expensive but most used saws.
@j.frankparnell6195
@j.frankparnell6195 Год назад
After using lots of different chainsaws over the years, I will never buy anything other than Stihl. They are the most durable and reliable. Husqvarna used to be in that category, but they have sold out to make cheaper junk in China. I bought a top of the line leaf blower from Husky and it absolutely was garbage. It quit running after only 6 months of use. The fuel lines and carburetor were messed up in short order. Husky claims this is due to ethanol in the fuel. I got it running again and had to run it on half choke just to keep it going. Then after a year it was dead, because all of the fuel lines just fell apart. Never again. Stihl has never let me down. In fact I recently put Stihl chain on my friend's older Husky saw and that thing runs 10X better. When it comes to small engine tools, Stihl is the way to go.
@MrV1NC3N7V3G4
@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 Год назад
Agreed. Husqvarna quality has definitely gone downhill over the years.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Great feedback! Thank you
@AlexKall
@AlexKall Год назад
When it comes to chainsaws and Husqvarna it is a world of difference depending on model, top end are still made in Sweden (and North America). But yes they loose reputation on their lower end.
@OvGraphics
@OvGraphics Год назад
I have had my beloved Echo chainsaw for 40 years or so. One of the best purchases I ever made in my life. Still it's good to know about the Stihl should the day ever come.... GREAT and SUPER review! Wow! Ya done good PF!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@andykerr3803
@andykerr3803 Год назад
An important criteria was missed... Vibration to the hands 🙌. In cold weather this can lead to permanent damage. I used to enjoy modifying chainsaws, the Jonsered was similar to the Husky, but better. Some had a small impeller acting as a supercharger. Low vibration, higher performance commercial models were available in several sizes. The piston/cylinder lasted very well. Of course a huge factor is the chain. Oregon at the time was very good. In comparing saws, it is the intrinsic weaknesses that make a big difference. Nice video 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@scottdowney4318
@scottdowney4318 Год назад
May help to wear gloves. Have not noticed vibration being any problem for me. I have run Husqvarna, Stihl, Blue Max.
@andykerr3803
@andykerr3803 Год назад
@@scottdowney4318 Certainly, I had 10 mile Orange gloves with both padding and protection from chain. The damage is real and permanent, freezing conditions make it worse. It is something that occurs over a long time. You won't notice it until there is damage. Like riding a hardtail without a kidney belt. I brought it up because Jonsered openly published their chainsaw vibration levels. Of course some people have poor circulation and fragile joints to start with, especially I the hands and feet. Cheers 🍻
@jasonmalone155
@jasonmalone155 Год назад
On the log cutting the log got thicker the more it was cut, also the hole in the center got smaller. The Sthl was the fastest and had to cut through more wood.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@firemanflorence
@firemanflorence Год назад
It's fair to test them with the chains they came with because that's how most people will use them. It would be interesting to see how they performed with the same chains. I know the 440 comes with a "safety" chain that is supposed to lower kick back since it's target audience is home users. Swapping that out with an Oregon Speed Cut chain basically gave me a different saw all together. More importantly, how long will something like the Salem Master actually last? Can you find parts for it, or is it "disposable"?
@mendonesiac
@mendonesiac Год назад
That would be the ultimate test
@alexandercopeland2849
@alexandercopeland2849 Год назад
Its disposable parts coast more then to buy new. Piston and jug, which seems to go bad after 60-80 hours of use is around $80 through company ( the price is from 10 years ago)
@larkinoo
@larkinoo Год назад
I'm just a home owner so I do not need a " Pro " saw. However I buy quality as the need arises. I have the Stihl MS 250 and I love that saw. It will last ME a lifetime as I am now 70. But that was very interesting that you included the amount of pulling force to get those saws started. I have advocated from day one that Stihl should have installed a compression release on the 250. That little bugger is snorty, and has a ton of compression. But I love it all the same !
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@paulb9376
@paulb9376 Год назад
I went with the echo, Timberwolf, CS590, when you considered other saws in the same category you were getting more bang for your buck with the echo, also, one thing I liked about the echo is the crank case is made out of metal, the sthil and Husqvarna saws are a composite crank case
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@paulb9376
@paulb9376 Год назад
@@ProjectFarm thanks for making awesome content! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched your videos before making a purchase decision. Keep Um coming!
@jerryrogers5233
@jerryrogers5233 Год назад
And Echo has a 5 year consumer warranty. A buddy of mine has a Echo Timberwolf and it does really well.
@davemcewen9991
@davemcewen9991 Год назад
No there not. All are metal crank cases,surounded with plastic, the plastic is very tough in some cases better ie getting run over OR dropped , at first i was sceptical , but i have found the plastic survives were the metal will crack ,i love husky saws but my cheap throw away pulans are impressive ,i cut allot of firewood i have 1 big husky 262 xp and 8 pp4218 saws. there very fuel efficent the only maintenence is bar ,chain and drive sprockets,i rarely need the husky , i keep the 8 pulans sharp and fueled so all i do is cut when i go to the bush ,so no down time and interchangable parts , i buy them as surplus stock some as cheap as $100 each so i have under $1000 invested in 8, much less then 1 husky,and i have found that the cheap chains off of amazon or wallmart for $8.00 stand up just as well as $35.00 oregon chains .
@ethics1017
@ethics1017 Год назад
I love my 590
@Guildguy457
@Guildguy457 Год назад
When Lightsabers are produced commercially, this guy will test 'em! 😀
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Absolutely!!
@jasonm3127
@jasonm3127 Год назад
I bought a used stihl around 10 years old for $220. I used it all day bucking some huge trees that went down in a storm last week, ran flawlessly! I haven't used it since I maintained it afterwards, but it sounded even better after the new air filter and spark plug. If your on a budget like I was just look for used Stihl.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@skippy710
@skippy710 Год назад
We got a 1970-1980 Stihl it was my grandpas it was sitting for at least 15 years. Took it apart cleaned it, filled it with new gas it starts up and sounds so loud works like cutting butter.
@lonermon
@lonermon Год назад
i love your tests . i love the way that no matter what the product is you manage to find the right tools and testing equipment to test them thoroughly and fairly . no one else seems to cover quite the range of things tested as you do . keep up the good work .
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks, will do!
@morganniclasen446
@morganniclasen446 Год назад
Would be really nice to see some comparisons of what spare parts are available for each item in some of your reviews, I think its an absolutely crucial thing when deciding to buy any tool and generally guides my decision for purchasing anything these days. What warranty comes with each item would be fun to look at too. Keep up the good work.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
@bobbipson8906
@bobbipson8906 Год назад
I tell my customers to go down to Ace Hardware and spend $200 for a residential grade Stihl chainsaw (MS170 I think). 90 percent of them come back with their $145 Poulan or Ryobi saw a few months after buying them so I can get them running again and replace the parts that disintegrate shortly after beginning to use them. Everything but Echo, Stihl, Shindaiwa, Red Max, and upper models of Husqvarna (lower models are made by/like Poulan) comes from the same vat of crap and is painted different colors. I think the electric Echo works decently because of the Stihl chain. If you have a cheap (barely good enough) chainsaw, most Stihl dealers will sell you a custom made chain (made from Stihl stock) that will drastically improve performance. All of the pros I do work for have multiple brands of chainsaw lying in the back of their work trucks. The ones in their worker's hands and up the trees are Stihl and the occasional older Husqvarna.
@morganniclasen446
@morganniclasen446 Год назад
@@bobbipson8906 Yeah I get the same sort of stuff happening in the bicycle industry, customers buying cheap stuff and then wanting them repaired - only issue being the labour and parts end up costing just as much as what a good bicycle would have cost in the first place and I can only imagine its the exact same in the chainsaw industry.
@pyroman6000
@pyroman6000 Год назад
True. The fact that I have TWO local dealers with full shops, had everything to do with why I chose Stihl for my gas saw. It was my first gasser, and I KNEW I'd screw it up sometime, lol. So, whatever I bought, HAD to have good service and parts availability.
@mekt0r
@mekt0r Год назад
Great content as usual! My old man gave me the Echo saw I used to use as a kid. It's over 30 years old and still getting the job done when it's needed.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Nice!
@1crazypj
@1crazypj Год назад
One thing I would like to see, a follow up on availability of service parts and repair parts? I kinda knew the Stihl would be on top and having experience with Stihl also know you can get cylinder/piston kits, crankshafts and seals to rebuild the motor plus new clutch etc. Double the price is worth it for something that isn't 'disposable' I doubt the same is available for the cheaper brands but would be interesting to find out about support? Husqvarna used to have a real good reputation (30 years ago) but I have no idea what they are like now? Thanks for the testing.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
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