Best Chapter for the Leviathan Box Space Marines? 10th Edition Rules and Lore Discussion 

That’s how I’m making my box

Wait pedro can be taken with sternguard? Primaris Pedro Confirmed?

@@droidattackonthewookies2277 they are - sternguard, not primaris sternguard 😅😅

Lysander with Terminators seem better, just get a shield and hammer and convert the Terminator Captain into him. Get some Agressors and you have a suitable option to attach Tor and the Apothecary to (which seems possible). I probably use my Dorn conversion from Guilliman as well as Guilliman, he could go 1 handed with his sword or 2 handed representing his combat weapons, while the bolter he holds is the ranged one.

​@@Spacefrisian any idea where I can snag a shield from?

I hadn't seen them before. I really like the color scheme!

I saw these guys in the newest White Dwarf and their colour scheme is very appealing. I might take these on too. Any more info about them?

@@iainfenton4671 Unfortunately as far as I know all their lore is from the White Dwarf issues. The 40K wiki is a good summation of their exploits and chapter characters and characteristics, but it seems its only source is that July 2021 issue of White Dwarf

Hot damn praying for your freehand, i thought i had it bad for picking lamenters

Yeeeee yeeeeeee

I play Salamanders but hate what we've become in 10th. No personality, it's all down to whether you pick Vulkan and/or Adrax, and Adrax is crap.

I'm new to warhammer 40k and will start with this edition. I looked at the chapters and I've made up my mind that I'll play Salamander too. 🔥

When the new Detachments come out in the codex, hopefully there is an Immolation Force or something, geared towards the Salamanders purging and burning the heretics....

Vulcan lives!!

It doesn't really favor Salamanders. In my opinion Ultramarines are the best pick for the box, because of their HQs choices. They have a massive amount of good unique characters. And roboute guilliman is just on another level. The salamanders HQ choices are not as good as the Ultramarines ones. They are fine and all but to be fair: giving the infernus squad wound rerolls maybe sounds good on paper. But in reality it is not very strong, because the infernus squad is only S 5, AP 0. So this unit is only effective against light armoured infantery. But buffing units who are good against light armoured infantery won't win you games most of the time especially because the 10th edition favors elite units and vehicles because you don't need to bring standard infantery or something like that. Salamanders are in my opinion not the best choice in 10th edition (at least gameplay-wise). But they are not the weakest choice either.

last box was great for white scars and they got no transfers either

Cry harder non psyker

@@levvy16 that's because GW are massively biased. Either they want all Marines blue, or make the divergent Chapters vastly more interesting than the compliant ones.

@@Backpflaume666 Thats why aggressors are now the big cheese. They have ap-1 flamers when hitting nearest targets with built in reroll wounds and that gravis apothecary makes their melee nasty consistent

wait.... i have primaris intercessors.... are they the same thing??? are the heavy intercessors on gw primaris size??

​@@tonydiazist different unfortunately, higher str guns, higher toughness, different armor. Still primaris tho

@@venlocity2 oh okay so they are that primaris scale instead of first Borns. Okay tysm I'm new to the game and getting the leviathan so i wanted all my models to be "updated" scale

@@tonydiazist yeah they are primaris scale. Iirc they count as gravis armor, so think aggressors, eradicators, and whatnot

Plus, you get to paint their gauntlets like boxing gloves.

@@KameSennin4209 nice

@@baronzemo5301 yea, because it’s legal to use guilliman, ventris, and calgar in a list with vulkan and adrax. Forgot about that.

I got sharkboys coming up with this box for sure

Dark krakens specialise in hunting the biggest monsters and enemies I think

Join the blood of Dorn battle brother! Our gene-sire demands it!

No Brother Join Your Battle Brothers Among The Salamanders For Vulken Lives *Stomp Stomp*

@@padfoot1178 Vulken may live but so does Dorn. Just wait. Also, although I appreciate and respect the Salamanders, please reference Helsreach as to why they are less effective in war. We Templars care about humanity because it is our charge but not at the cost of winning the war. OP, In short- if you want to waste time saving a few humans instead of prioritizing killing war bosses, Salamanders are your guys. Also lots of fire. Which is cool. However- if you despise sorcery, want to purge the galaxy of its disgusting Xenos filth, suffer not the unclean to live, take everything extremely seriously because you don’t understand jokes, get as close as possible using melee to see your enemy’s face as they die, have lots of cool tabards and relics, and chant inspiring and awesome litanies like “No Pity! no Remorse! No Fear! Die Well!” Then we are your guys. Read or listen to the book Helsreach or watch the animation for free on RU-vid. The choice becomes clear. But if you do choose to go Salamander, I understand… … I think my fellow Salamander commenter and I can both agree that at least you aren’t considering the Space Wolves

They can now per their new detachment rules...

@@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith True (I hadn't checked his keywords), but sadly he cannot heal anything. So Wolves still have no access to a healer. And I bet GW will FAQ i to say they can't take the Biologis either... GW hate Wolf Priests (or have forgotten they were a chaplain and medic rolled into one)

I've never sweated it if a model's intended configuration was incompatible with my intention. Into the bitz drawer with them!

@@mrgoober6320 that's exactly where he'll end up going.

I don't think the Apothecary Biologis heals anyone anyway.

One important factor you gotta take in before you pick an army, only one of them gives out hugs

How are you planning on changing the Apothecary into a Sanguinary Priest? I’ve been struggling to figure out how to do it

​@@liamcolliermusicwhy would you want to convert?

@@DavosTheDegen because apothecaries in the ranks of the blood angels are Sanguinary priests? They are on par with the chaplaincy in terms of chapter structure.

@@rayvg7709 I just plan on running the biologus as it's standard unit tbf. Too much effort to convert an easy to build monopose kit

​@@DavosTheDegenand the biological apothecary seems to be quite a good unit anyway I'm fairness

I thought the same thing, was kinda hoping for a brutalis dread in there but I can't complain. I beat my wife's nurgle army the other day and she was so pissed that I hit with 1 eradicator and killed her beast of nurgle she started doing research on tyranids. Yesterday she showed me the receipt for the leviathan box and a tervigon cause now she is a hive queen and my salamander successor chapter is going down lol. However, I have been told I am not allowed to use any of the units inside of the box vs her new army 😢😢

@@derhawktb4022 lol damn goals! My girl would never particapte in the game. Iv told her about the lore a bit mianly due to the Cavil/Amazon announcement. The farthest Iv gone with her for any of my hobbies is Lego which she quite likes. So maybe one day lol. Ah! The space marine side of the box is definitely overpowered compared to the Nids side. Out of all of the battle reports Iv seen, the two units for Nids that have been good are the screamer killer and barbguants. So I completely understnad haha

Will you be sharing your freshly painted tyranids??

@@XerrolAvengerII soon as I get em lol

Interesting color scheme, but do lean into it and have endorsement ads on you power armor? :)

My thoughts exactly!

@@skulver i dunno either, but you can always paint him as a successor chapter captain or chaptermaster, that would be cool to have

Why not paint the termies as Deathwing? I'm having a hard time between Iron Hands and BA, having more than one color scheme for DA is a big plus (and I love Deathwing's bone armor)

@@SamsButterscotch Two reasons: 1- I feel strongly that a Deathwing update is coming this edition with the new scale termies, and I'd rather wait for those. 2- I love the Idea of adding some BA termies to my small army, and out of everything in the box they seem to be the only thing that will be useful for BAs. That being said I haven't made my decision yet and those Deathwing terminators would look SICK!

@@TENGUartesmarciales With DA's codex being the first to release, I'm thinking you're right thinking some Deathwing Knights refresh is on the way. It's a tough call, but you can never go wrong with Blood Angels 🤘

I heavily disagree. Vulkan is an amazing objective holder, but also great for overwatch. Remember you can overwatch in an enemy movement phase as well, so they just need to walk by the objective to get torched without charging. Adrax's thunder hammer can take on predators, so that's great. His problem is that none of the squads he can combo with is that great. If he can run with bladeguard or aggressors, he'd be fine.

@@TuShan18 wow, you’re actually 100% right, I stand corrected. 100% agree re: Adrax running with blade guard or aggressors.

Unfortunately they removed Bryarth Ashmantle and he no longer had a data sheet for 10th ed 40k . Hoping he will het a new model and data sheet for 10th at some point tho!

Auspex was first an ultramarines player iirc so... The name doesn't comes from nowhere, he analyses first his armies I suppose. Other armies will come in time, the edition will last 3 years for the better or the worse.