Taking a look at the new/redone Riverside International Raceway in NR2003. John Norton has done an awesome job on this one! Download: wildkustomcars... 0:00 Intro 2:38 Race
Quick Question for everyone: If I was to do a season in NR2003, would folks want a full race unedited, or maybe cut out chunks under caution/lapping by myself?
I’m probably alone in this but I vote leaving the entire race in minus maybe the cautions if you did cut stuff out. A more viewer friendly approach would probably be to cut out the laps by yourself. I’ll watch either way!
I was thinking that and Ontario myself...Would've been sick to have had Indycar race there, Indy, Michigan, and Pocono, as a Quadruple Crown sort of deal...
Riverside was awesome to watch, completely open terrain. After the last race a mall was built where the southern portion of the track was located and houses on the north side. Apparently some admin. buildings still remain too.
@@douglasdixon524 I stayed in the Ayres hotel there back in 2018, it’s located where turn 3 used to be. There’s a Winco across the street from it and a ton of fast food joints all over, the area is super sketch at night. Sad to know that’s it hallowed racing ground and so many greats raced there at one time and a few lost there lives.
14 years between Riverside closing and Nascar 2003 being released, 17 years between Nascar 2003 being released and this mod being released. That is crazy.
I went to my first F1 race at Long Beach in 1978. Don't know why we didn't go sooner, but I saw my first CART race at Riverside in 1980. For the next few years my dad and I would say that we'd want to go to Long Beach to see the cars, but then we'd see CART and IMSA at Riverside for the circuit. I've still never been to any track that had better general admission sightlines and access to them. You were so close. I'll never forget the first time I saw those Indycars come through turn 5 for the first time. Insane. Little I've seen has felt that fast since.
The track creator(s) did an amazing job on this circuit. Though two racing line issues stood out to me: on corner exit for the slow first gear right hander after the esses, the AI loses a lot of speed by not using the full width of the track; same issue on the left hander onto the back straight. Would love to see em go a bit wider to make passing through those areas a bit tougher. Great vid as always, GPLaps! Your passion for realistic racing, and appreciation of older eras is infectious.
While I was familiar with Foyt's crash in the 60's, that Dick Simon crash was crazy. Thanks for mentioning it. Another scary moment happened in the final Winston Cup race in 1988 when the car of Ruben Garcia lost control after exiting turn 9, broke down the corner of the Armco barrier that was protected by tires, crashed through the flimsy catch fence, and then smashed through a concrete wall (not much more than a cinder block wall). Nearly ended up in the laps of the spectators in the grandstand.
12:20 I always figured I only thought the older cars were more memorable & stood out more cuz "I was being nostalgic" but I'm glad to hear others think the same thing. I think the sleekness & smoothness of newer cars may contribute but also the newer schemes seem to have too many paint lines going in too many different directions. To me the new schemes look messy & disorganized with lines going every which way. nascar is dead to me in the past 7-8yrs. The 80s,90s, & early 2000s were the golden age but those days are long gone. To think that designers from 80s look way better than anything made today is very weird & many factors must be in play for that to be the case but these schemes are & always have been ICONIC & beautiful.
I'd definitely be up for watching a 50% distance NR2003 season. You're fun to watch (and no idea how you can talk and navigate a road course in 03 like this)
I grew up going to this track as a kid. Thank you for this it brought back a lot of memories. Granted it is digital but I remember these races vividly.
Total aside - Herbie Films - They shot some at Riverside, Some at the older Laguna Seca and Willow Springs (Jack Rabbits Raceway?) - did they shoot any scenes at Sears Point/Sonoma/Infineon - Guess they were more 60's sports car events the film crew could just rock up to and enter a spoof VW in close to Hollywood
Up through 1968, there was no Dogleg, and Turn 9 was a standard, semicircular, banked corner. Foyt realized he was having brake issues, and to avoid hitting the guy in front of him, he threw the car to the inside. There was a deep depression there, and then a big hump, and his car launched. Foyt survived, but it took months for him to recover. While Riverside (1957) may have hosted the widest range of major series, there were a number of good circuits in the West. You have/had Willow Springs (1953), Laguna Seca (1957), Westwood (1959), Seattle Int'l Raceway (1960), Stardust (1965), Sears Point (1968), and Portland (1971, for the layout we recognize now). And though not out by the Pacific, another classic that was relatively far west was Continental Divide Raceway (1959). Admittedly, NASCAR isn't so much my cup of tea. And yes, it's hard to say how interesting a lot of the oval races would be. If I'm looking at a preferred period, I probably liked the look of the cars most from 1982 and before. Of course, there's something special about the muscle cars, fastbacks, and high-winged beasts.
Again another “wow”!! Thanks so much for the amazing content! Your videos have made me race Dundrod in Rfactor2, download and enjoy NASCAR 03 again with new cars and tracks including the GN 63 mod, and GTR2 with the Power and Glory mod. Great older games with newer content. I remember these games from back in the day but so much better now! Just one other bit of praise. It’s nice to see someone who loves sim racing but yet doesn’t have or need the latest and greatest in equipment like wheels/rigs etc. to fully enjoy the hobby. No $100,000 sim set up. Please keep up the great work! More nascar 03 and GTR2 please!!
Hoping some day someone picks up this era of Stock Car racing again to mod with modern standards. A early-mid-late 80s mod with variations of the Pontiac/Ford/Oldsmobile/Chevy chassis would really make NR2003 complete! Aero88 is still great for how old it is however, and this track is by far THE best track to illustrate that golden era of Stock Car racing.
Used to go to Riverside as a kid.. That track was awesome! They also used to host the SCORE offroad races there. I just posted a vid of me having fun in AC on this track.. Can't say enough about one of your 'home tracks' I guess. I appreciate you posting this NR race.. I was racing 60's and 70's muscle.. DMAX
With how well you describe everything while driving, and how much knowledge you have in all forms of motorsport, I'm surprised you don't get a job as a race announcer. You would be pretty damn good at it.
Damn GP!!!............I learn so much from you on this sim racing stuff , it's incredible! I got into it more seriously about 7 - 8 years ago , but did start back in 2002 / 2003 with the Papyrus Nascar games ( Still have both versions here on CD ).........I had no freakin' clue there were mods for this game!! I guess I just never looked!!??
Still can’t believe they didn’t use Riverside a bit more for F1, I know it was one of the last times a Maserati 250F was used in Grand Prix circumstances and it being the early 60s must of looked like a monster with the tiny Lotus-Climax and Cooper-Climax coming to the fore.
The one and only USGP held there (the 1960 race) was a bust because the L.A. Herald Examiner was associated with it, and the much bigger L.A. Times, not wanting to undermine their own Times Grand Prix for sports cars at Riverside, did zero promotion/coverage. As a result pretty much the only people who knew about it outside of hardcore race fans were Herald Examiner readers. Riverside did, however, see use as an F1 testing venue in the late '70s and early '80s when the circus was in town to race at Long Beach. Rick Mears did one of his two tests for Brabham there, setting a faster time than Nelson Piquet.
Awesome driving skill. I suck at roud courses, when I used to play nr2003, most of the time, I lock the tires at brake zones and have to pit early...I miss this game, can't wait to buy a new PC and starting playing again.
If you tell me "Riverside", the first thing that comes to my mind, is a red Folgers Chevy #25, the first thing that comes to my mind is Mr. Tim Richmond.
You should do one on Riverside International Speedway as well. The best circuit in the “couple hundred feet west” of the Mississippi River. The only caveat would be that it would be traditional NASCAR racing. Dirt, short track, high banked, and fun and enjoyable when you see it live and in person.
There was a bug where the AI would pit relatively earlier than you if you doubled (or tripled) the fuel usage (which you noted). Looks like that was the case here, with many pitting twice when they didn't have to. You would typically have to go into the track's config and alter the fuel use parameter to compensate. The max/min AI lines on the backstretch looked to be much narrower than the track given how many would lift if you were side-by-side with them.
Awesome video.. Loved watching it.. I have this and the Can Am circuit released. Soon I will be releasing the 3rd layout at Riverside called "Riverside Club WKC" Watch for it..
Love the GPL videos. Want to suggest/request a new video on install and setup of GPL in 2021 ? I got the 2020 demo to work fine, but nothing else; other installers don't work well.
Just saw this...awesome video, thanks! Prompted me back to nr2003 after a long hiatus of 20 years. It's fun seeing what older sims can do on modern hardware and with some high res updates. I would really like to get hold of that dash/cockpit you are running but I can't find it anywhere - any suggestions? Anybody? cheers :)
I think NASCAR might use the smaller layouts simply to maintain a similar track size. They want to keep it super speedway length or there about. Also the appeal is close racing and shorter track size make the action feel more consistent to the ticket holders
Great stuff, I always enjoy your "talk 'n' race" videos quite a lot. It's nice to know more about the history of motorsports and old circuits like Riverside as well. Can I ask you what set of mods-carset etc. have you been using for this? Doesn't look like stock aero88 to me.
Man what an amazing custom track. Was this made by the same person that did Spa67, cause it sure is at that level (textured shadows, quality textures, etc.)?
Another great video and now that I’ve learned how to download mods for my AC, I’m gonna do some of this old nascar. I see where the track is located, which mod pack of cars includes the old nascar vehicles if you don’t mind? I’m assuming they are in RaceDepartment somewhere?Thanks.
Could you get the Daytona cars pack for AC, and Recreate some real race with it, like you do best. They Look and sound awesome from what I’ve seen, cant tell from videos what the Physics are like, but seem good
Okay.. I would love to know how to solve the CTD problem with Win10 that I've never been able to resolve. I miss NR2003 and all the character if its mods. I've tried all I can think of, but gave up over a year ago. After seeing this though, I'd love to hear suggestions I might have missed!
When I try and load the track it says, “could not load track” I tried downloading the shared file on the website and it still didn’t work. How did you get this track to load?
Did you unzip it correctly? When unzipped there should only be one folder called "Riverside Cup WKC" that contains the files for the track. If you have a folder inside of the unzipped folder that is named "Riverside Cup WKC" copy that folder into your tracks folder and go race..
Nice to see NR2003 instead of the pixellated other NR you're playing. Not a graphics whore but do enjoy a prettier game. I'd go for unedited and we'll do the skipping. Significantly easier on your workload unless you've got a super slow connection and want to save a gig.
You know this means I'm gonna have to get out and dust off my copy of NR2003 and install it now, AND the Aero 88 mod, right? I'm definitely bit by those wonderful "bugs" now.
