I recommend waiting to buy a GPU, but if you're set on buying in October, here's my top 5 choices: Best GPU around $200 RX 6600: amzn.to/3v5tNja Best GPU around $300 RX 7700XT: amzn.to/3BYcWSx Best GPU around $400 RX 6800 XT amzn.to/3vqbhSS Best GPU around $600 RTX 4070 Super: amzn.to/3xWhEyG Best $800 GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super: amzn.to/3T0Kfuz Past this point is diminishing returns on "value" and next gen could be out soon, so I don't really recommend. Disclosure: This is not a sponsored post, but I did include affiliate links above so I may earn money on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you.
You know why I like you? You make the video, you explain everything in detail, and yet you also pin a comment with the relevant information for everyone that's not going to watch the entire video. Fair play, thanks for respecting us as audience, that's why I keep coming back even if I'm not that interesting in the topic, it's my way of saying thanks for your work.
Upcoming holiday sales should give you an idea of how desperate they are to sell off old stock. If discounts are anemic, expect disappointing next gen pricing as well.
Nobody knows yet but I see the RTX 5070 performing around 10% better than a 4070 Super but costing an extra $100-$150 while drawing more power. I believe NVIDIA will continue to cater to those with deep pockets and AI companies.
Right now, rumors have it at about 4070 ti performance in raster and about 10% more for ray tracing. Its supposed to be between $600 and $700 according to leaks.
The 4070 Ti Super doesn't just have more VRAM than the 4070 Super, it also comes with double AV1 encoders as opposed to a single one, it has a wider Bus, and the same Processor as the 4080 (AD103). It's basically a slightly slower 4080, rather than a faster 4070. So yeah, I'd say that it's definitely worth its premium.
But in terms of performance it is right between 4070 S and 4080. So I would call it "slightly" slow. Otherwise you should also describe it as "slightly" faster than 4070 S.
@@stangamer1151 But performance alone doesn't paint the entire picture as to why it's priced like that. The 4070 Ti Super comes with advantages, other than its performance, that justify its premium over the 4070 Super. Meanwhile, the 4080 offers roughly the same jump in performance for roughly the same jump in price, except it doesn't come with more VRAM, a wider Bus, a better Processor or better encoding than the 4070 Ti Super, so its premium isn't justified.
@@verde5738 70 Ti S costs 33% more than 70 S. 80 S costs 25% more than 70 Ti S. So you paying bigger premium for Ti S. 80 S has larger L2 cache and faster memory, which helps in some games and will be useful in future games. So it is not that simple. Each of these 3 cards has it's own advantages.
@@verde5738 70 Ti S costs 33% more than 70 S. 80 S costs 25% more than 70 Ti S. So you paying bigger premium for Ti S. 80 S has larger L2 cache and faster memory, which helps in some games and will be useful in future games. So it is not that simple. Each of these 3 cards has it's own advantages.
Another potential option like others have said, the 7900 XT is pretty good value right now at $630 USD. If you don't mind the lack of NVIDIA features this card blows every modern game at 1440p max settings without the need to upscale. The VRAM is a tad overrated but the 20(!) buffer over the 4070 super's 12 is huge especially when you start getting into native 4K (or specific intense game mods), which the 7900XT can do pretty well with high settings. If you don't care about RT, it's a decent compromise for about 30 bucks more, and personally if you ask me Raytracing isn't really a viable, comfy option until that 4070 TI S, 4080 S range. If you ever regret the lack of NVIDIA features you can always just return it, especially since some online stores like Newegg are doing a holiday return window thing where you have no questions asked returns all the way until Jan 2025. This is great for people who want to do some strenuous gaming right now while being able to have that cushion for that extra money going into the next gen cards.
I bought a 7900XT been very happy with it. Now with AMDs fluid motion 2 getting even higher FPS. Curious to see what the next gen 8000 series gpus will offer. Given that AMD has thrown in the towel for high end gpu market.
I really don't like 300w+ cards. Cards should really be 250w at max like 2080ti was. Anything past that is just asking for trouble. Really disappointed about rtx 5000 rumors so far, it seems like even 70 class cards will now be huge, power hungry and unreliable
I bought 4060 Ti 16GB for 300 euro upgrading from 1660 super a few days ago. Really happy with its performance too. I think the performance gap is the same as from 1060 to 3060 ti
@@maxon1861 Good stuff... If you got a 4060 Ti 16GB for a good price than good for you mate. People will try to sh*t on you for buying a 4060 Ti 16GB, but don't listen to them. It's a good card when you use it how it's supposed to be used i.e. 1440p, DLSS, FG with optimized graphic settings and if you play e-sports titles, paired with a good CPU, you will be set for a couple of years easy.
You can get the 6650XT brand new for $10 less than the 6600XT, so there's no reason to buy a 6600XT if anyone's considering that over the 6600 non XT. At $230 the 6650XT also makes much more sense than a 6600 at $200. The 6650XT is ~25% faster.
yup i got a 6650 xt 3 days ago, 6600 was the same price and 3060s are like 60 bucks more expensive in my country, the 3060 ti is like 200 bucks more than the 6650 in my country and they compete in performance, for contrast 6650 was 4500 pesos on xfx 6400 on import versions like sapphire/msi vs a 3060 ti being like 8k to 11k local vs imports
@@CesarPuma-dc7dd i dont play warzone haha sorry, so far im loving 6650 xt with smart access memory and re-size bar support pc runs so low on resources all the time, for the games i play usually ive never seen my pc go above 50% usage on both despite going max at 144 but i do not play a lot of realistic looking games with insane graphic options to benchmark the card, maybe halo infinite but runs very smooth too at 144
@@CesarPuma-dc7dd just got the 6650 xt shapire, is killing, i play six siege, moder warafre and cs go, 3 hours intensive playing all uktra, constant fps. Don t forget to setup your gpu from amd software , jusk ask chat gpt the best settings for but don play with undervoltage or overclock. I have an 165 hz monitor but i set all to 144, from windows setting advanced graphics, from amd software and also from in game settings.
Despite the overall recommendation to not buy anything until we have all the info needed for a good decision (that I am absolutely going along with)... Really appreciate these continued videos. Am biting my nails trying to have a finger to the pulse of prices after seeing the Monster Hunter Wilds specs sheet. Gotta make sure my friends can play with me when the time comes!
@@vampiszon6620 Yeah, even if there weren't new GPUs coming out in the near future, I wouldn't pulling the trigger on anything until benchmarks come out for the game. I believe I saw some interviews (maybe from Tokyo Game Show) where they noted the backlash and said they are in the final months of development, which is all about optimization. So... it could maybe potentially possibly change. Or not. It's all about them HUB, GN, and Daniel Owen benchmarks, haha.
For 1080p High or Very High in the latest AAA titles it's a perfectly good little card. If paired with a Ryzen 7600X or i5 12600k it's also perfectly capable of driving the FPS though the roof in e-sports titles at competitive settings.
@@andersjjensen my cpu is ryzen 5600, still building in AM4 due to my low budget and i dont really plan to upgrade them soon. Hope it last me 4-5 years
@@ManggoSmoothie A 5600 is still good for over 200FPS in most e-sports games and perfectly good enough to suck all the juice out of a 6600 if you turn up the settings in AA/AAA titles. 4-6 sounds like a reasonable expectation. By then Low will look like High today.
Lol what. By what metric. Its faster than a 4080 and uses less power and is cheaper. How is he coping he is recommending a product he enjoys. Don't shill for free. It makes you look like a child.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP "how dare you enjoy your purchase" Not turning on Ray Tracing anyway. Oh dear, I really feel like I've missed out on not spending twice as much as I could have. That said, I wouldn't recommend buying one right now, as tempting as they look dipping down to $800. Prices will continue to plummet when they don't have anything to compete with 5080 and 5090.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP I've built PCs for 30 years. People like you are the reason PC enthusiasts are described as toxic gatekeepers. The only scene I've experienced to be worse, when it comes to brand-brainwash is motor cycle enthusiasts. They will literally get in fist fights over who's preferred crotch rocket is "the most authentic". But keep it up, and you might get there one day, dork.
TBH, you should wait only if you are buying 5090. For the rest of the line up, unless you want to waste money wait for the fall/winter when super/refresh versions of 80/70 are released. Basically 40 series flashbacks.
Eeeeh, it was mostly like $30 worth of performance for $50 with the exception of the 70TiS and 80S where one got the memory it should've had and the other got cheaper.
@@RotaryJunkie It's gonna be even worse for the 5000 series. Nvidia gonna skimp on memory and performance again, and in reality the 5080 will be closer to 5070, and the 5070 will be closer to 5060 in performance. They really want you to buy the 5090, or else you're getting the nerfed cards. And after selling them like hotcakes, they'll release refreshed versions with little bit more memory, cores and performance, more in line with what the actual gains compared to the previous generations should be. Now that they don't even have to mind about AMD, they'll have free reign over the wallets of sheeple.
I tend to disagree. It all depends on 50xx pricing of course, but I *guess* it's safe to say that, come Jan 2025, you'll be able to get 4090-levels of performance for 4080 (Super?) money. Minus 8 GB of VRAM of course, if the rumored specs are true and complete. They might still launch a 5080 24 GB, for all we know.
Got a 7800 xt for $418 during Prime days. Feeling pretty good about this from my old 1660 super, and I can probably sell it to one of my friends if something with a more compelling price-to-performance comes along in 2025-2026
I got greedy and bought at Best Buy for $450 right before the sale but im happy to pay a little more for brick and mortar return and just being able to pick it up off the shelf. Plus it came with Space Marine 2 and another game I probably won't ever play. I know people don't like to include freebies into the price, but SM2 was the game I was most excited to play, so I'm comfortable in saying that brought the real cost of the card under $400 for me. I was questioning my decision for a while but this video makes me feel a lot better about it. My last card was a 1080ti, but it got destroyed in a move so I needed one sooner than later.
@@danielowentech yessir! Got it off a recent recommendation from you for my first ever pc build (childhood dream hehe) Have been watching ur vids religiously for a while. Keep up the fantastic work
I upgraded my 6800 to 7900xtx for $800, gaming on Linux and a happy camper. Even though it was refurbished, AMD gave me a code for Space Marines 2 as well.
@@johnbowyer9815 Depends on the time and the model. They dipped to $850, then rose back up to $950 and then started slowly declining. The cheapest model on pcpartspicker is $840 right now. If he got a refurbed reference with full warranty and a game code for $800 he most certainly didn't get his pants pulled off.
You didn't list the 7900xt, people are sleeping on this card. Really good performance and decent raytracing performance too. In Cyberpunk I can run it at high settings with rt ultra with xess 1.3 at balanced with a 2160p output. You can run path tracing if you want too. I would wait for rdna 4. But for $630 it's severely underrated.
Agreed. And even better if you don't really care about Ray Tracing. I play at native 1440p so it'd be a perfect card for me. Where else can you get a 20GB and 320 bit bus for the same money? Nowhere. I'm probably going to get it soon.
Fr I was eyeing this, I was watching Daniel Owen's reviews and if you can get it around 600, you get better than 4070 ti super performance for 200ish less! High 20gb Vram so you could be good for like 5 years if you wanted to.
@@darkocakic1488 I'm actually playing Hogwarts Legacy @ 4k on a 144hz G-Sync LCD. The monitor is new to me too. I was using 3x 4k@60hz monitors. I wanted to try a 144hz monitor to see if it was smoother, and it is DEFINITELY worth it!
Daniel, thank you for all your hardwork on GPU comparison videos. I finally took the plunge on 4070 Ti S. Couldn't wait for new cards as they never have normal pricing in the starting year. Building my first PC in 30 years.
@@MrAnimescrazy The CPU is still pending since 7800X3D is too expensive right now and 9800X3D has not launched yet. The rest of the specs are as follows: 1. GPU - MSI 4070 Ti S 2. Mobo - MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi 3. RAM - GSkill 32GB DD5 6k MHz CL30 4. SSD - Samsung 990 pro 2TB 5. PSU - Corsair RM850e 6. Cooler - Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 7. Case - Lian Li 216
@@MrAnimescrazy thanks mate 😄 All credit goes to Daniel, PC builder, Hardware Unboxed, Gamer Nexus and JayztwoCents. These guys educated me enough to make this decision
Great video Daniel, thank you for the good info Quick feedback: add video sections, helps a lot of people find exactly what they are looking for without skimming through the whole thing, it also helps the algorithm, youtube likes it when you use their stuff
You recommended the 7700 XT over the 4060 Ti because AMD is actually 22% better in performance for the $. Because even if we take into account DLSS and better RT the 7700 XT is still a better buy. But then you didn't even mention the 7900 XT even though it is actually 26% better in performance for the $ than the 4070 Ti Super. I find it strange. The 7900 XT is only $639 now. Which is $140 less than the 4070 Ti Super. And the card was even $615 a few days ago. That's a pretty noticeable 31% difference. And we can expect such discounts again around Black Friday. Will Nvidia also drop $200? I highly doubt that. And will the 5070 be cheap and powerful enough to justify waiting another 4 months? I doubt that either. The 7900 XT is 40% faster and has 67% more VRAM than the 4070. But MSRP of the 4070 is $600. If the 5070 is also $600 at launch and only has 12GB again, the 7900 XT 20GB at around $600 is still likely to be faster and a better buy than Nvidia. But you won't have to wait another 4 months to find out.
Yeah, I'm kinda disappointed he didn't even mention it as an option. It's a 20GB and 320 bit bus card. I'm probably going to get it regardless. I can always sell it later or give it to my brother if I get a new one. But I think it will serve me well for many years.
@@Zer0Hour17 He only said that because he thought there was no other option cheaper than $800. But that's just not true. The 7900 XT is around that $600 mark, but it's as fast as the 4070 Ti Super for $780.
@@JackJohnson-br4qr I'm pretty sure he knows whats available and again, his opinion is clearly if you are spending $600+ ray tracing is what matters and the 7900xt is no where near as good as the 4070 ti super with ray tracing on.
@@Zer0Hour17 Again, the 7900 XT regularly sells for around $600. That's a 31% better price/performance ratio than the 4070 Ti Super. So even if you turn on RT and DLSS on the Nvidia card, the 7900 XT will deliver more frames for your money than the 4070 Ti Super. As he argued with the 7700 XT vs 4060 Ti and he sided with AMD.
I'm very curious to see if the 7,000 Series AMD cards will support FSR4 or not. I bought a 6800 XT in early September and the only thing that worries me is that I won't be able to use FSR4. Otherwise I feel the 6800 XT is better value than the 7800 XT currently unless you really want the Space Marine II bundle.
I bought a 4070 super a couple of months ago based on your recommendation. No regret. I upgraded from 1660ti. I was able to upgrade my monitor and GPU. Playing Helldiver 2 on max settings everything and on a ultra wide screen. No stuttering and I get close to 100fps.
@@nolanletsrock Considering that you've been on a 1660 Super this long, I reckon you want to squeeze as much performance as you can out of the money you spend. If that's the case, I recommend waiting at least until RDNA 4 comes out, which leaks suggest to be in January 2025. Even if next-gen hardware won't be great, current-gen will have much more attractive pricing in the used market. But now definitely isn't a bad time to upgrade either. It really depends on whether the 1660 Super is holding you back from playing the games that you want to play or not. I own one, too (bricked my RX 6600, so I had to downgrade) and every game I play except for Space Marines 2 runs comfortably well, so I'm trying to hold out until 2026.
I have a 12GB 4070 Super. It's a great card that performs very well in my use cases, but I'll probably upgrade in early 2026 as I do a lot of video editing and I really like ray tracing in my games so you can never have too much processing power or vram in my eyes. I'll be keeping my eye on the 24GB 5080 or a potential 18GB 5070 Ti or Ti Super as my "budget option".
Yes, Ray tracing is a unnecessary feature which even the nvidia clowns actually don't use. 7900GRE is a beast price/performance, smokes the 4070 super easily
@@BenganGamer I went for the 7900GRE, its more than enough for 1440p on every game. I would consider the 7900xtx if you are planning for 4k. I'm very happy and have no issues with the 7900GRE, it runs quite and low temperatures and you can tweak it in many ways with adrenalin software if you wish to. 7900GRE+ 7500f with 750W power supply is my combo and it runs smooth. If you consider 7600x or higher cpu I would maybe consider 800Watt+ just in case
thank you. i was toying with getting the new 4080super. but i will wait til jan and see how the 5080 compares. hopefully the price jump isn't more than the performance gain.
If the price of the 5080 is comparable to the 4090 next year, I’ll definitely trade in my 4080s and get a 4090. If NVIDIA releases two 5080 variants-one being a 16GB and the other a 24GB-and they’re cheaper than the 4090, I’d consider it based on the price and the new tech/AI features that would be included in the new card. Regardless, with 16GB of VRAM and being a 4K/RT gamer, I upgrade every 2-3 years anyway, and I always get a good resale value and put it towards the new card. It has been a solid upgrade plan for me. My primary decision to upgrade depends VRAM, and new features, especially for high-resolution and ray tracing gaming. I never really complained about the prices I paid $749 for my 1080ti, $1.2k for my 2080ti, so of course I’d pay $1k for the 4080s. I only skipped the 3080ti because of the outrages scalping prices . But if the 16GB of VRAM proves to be pathetic the next two years, I’ll sell it at a competitive price, cut my losses and enjoy a new card. If the 5080 series offers good performance at a competitive price, it could be an attractive option, especially with advancements in AI and other technologies. Given my upgrade cycle, trading in my cards for new models is a decent strategy to maximize value since I like to keep up with the tech. I’ll keep an eye on the benchmarks and reviews once the new cards are released to make the best decision! I’m a married gamer, who married a gamer and we have no kids. And both work, we can easily afford to enjoy the PC experience. Plus my wife never knows what to get me for gifts so she always gets me a GPU or CPU. She’s amazing :)
Just got a 4070Ti SUPER last month because I couldn’t deal with the 4060 at 1440p that came with my pre built. Basically did a full rebuild of my PC because I’m completely transitioning away from console gaming after seeing that PS5 pro price and “performance”.
Do not buy a card with 8gb of vram. That is absolutely terrible advice. The only advice for that is save more money and get at least 12, personally 16 is becoming the standard now.
I love your videos man, Although I have a GPU already but I'm always looking to upgrade. I really like that you put a lot of thought and effort into your arguments on why you should buy X gpu for X tier. It makes it easier for us that aren't as hardcore PC builders as others. Thanks for this fantastic vid!
I bought 7900xt for 669$ (with white color tax 😅) for my 1600p uw monitor and I can’t be happier with that. White 4070ti I want costs 860$ which is crazy just for gaming with RT and DLSS 😮
I managed to pick up a refurbished 7900xt from microcenter for $570 a few days ago. This card is a massive upgrade at 1440p compared to my now old 3070, and a no-brainer at the price I got it at compared to the 4070 super. Unfortunately, the 3070 was never really powerful enough to allow me to play at high RT settings, and the 4070ti super is significantly more expensive, so AMD seems to be the way to go for the foreseeable future for me
Your videos are getting better and better The way you analyze thing's the focus and time you give to every information has been optimized a lot Have a wonderful day like always and continue the good job
RX 6000 series cards are pretty old tech now, whenever amd release AI based upscaling, it wont work on 6000 series cards as they dont have any AI chips, i'd avoid those cards if you want the longevity, just get 7000 series instead
I can absolutely vouch for the RX 6600. I got it as placeholder GPU last year and ended up using it up until now, partly, because nothing this gen really felt like it was worth the spending the big bucks on yet, but also because it just pretty much ran everything I needed it to well enough in raster. It's punching well above its weight for the price. Oh, and it's ridiculously power efficient pulling only anywhere between 100-115W at the games I played. If I do end up upgrading next year, I can see myself still keeping this card in a secondary build.
Lol, I just brought a new Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX Vapor for $920 usd to give my EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra a break after 3 years of heavy use. I couldn't resist the beauty of the Sapphire Nitro+'s design and its power.
Just got a 4080 Super brand-new... wish I had seen this video sooner. Anyway, I'm very happy with the purchase and probably going to keep it for a long time.
The RX 6800 (non XT) still offers the best price/performance ratio in my opinion for under $ 400 with 16 GB. I personally have a RX 7800 XT because the RX 6800 was only available as an XFX custom design in my region and I couldn't get the graphics card into my case. Unfortunately, the RX 6800 XT is no longer available here at all in Europe for a resonable price.
Upcoming used market is looking fantastic. Finally, a lot of high performing GPUs coming under the $500 range and below. When the new 50xx lineup cards are released, it'll crash the mid to high AMD GPU market. Both new and old cards. The used market sets the value levels of products. If something is valued right, the used price is semi close to market price. Used 7900 xtx/xt has to battle against everything from 4070 to 4080S. It's going to be a buyer's market with used cards.
Idk man, I just sold a used 6700XT in 2 days for $400 after I used it for 10 months and it cost me $550.. I could have priced it higher as well if I wanted to also.
@@Deedee48-jg9om Nothing to do with my point on the new or used market change when the new 50xx line comes out. AMD is in a tough spot. There's no new high-end cards coming, and they have to sell current models at lower price. If they don't drop the price soon, people won't buy their cards. If someone does buy their higher tier options, the value loss is massive in the used market. For example, used market value for 7900xtx should be lower than 4080(S). If there are a lot of used 4080 models available, it drops every GPU model prices below that. There will be a lot of used RTX 40xx cards in the near future. Soon will be a great time to buy mid to semi high tier GPUs.
@@Monsux Well maybe it's just Australia, but as it is. I got a 7900GRE in the last few weeks for $830 AUD delivered. To get the absolute worse PNY or GALAX 2 fan 4070 Super, I was looking at $930 minimum. The 4070 Supers in the good models are $1000+ AMD is priced like that across the board here. Don't see how anything will get shaken up if Nvidia is going to have this similar pricing scheme in the 5x series whilst AMD still offers much better value in terms of $$$.
@@Deedee48-jg9om I was talking about future used prices after the release. Don't care about some random personal used price now in a limited market area, but GPU market as a whole. In the US and Europe, AMD high-tier is priced almost the same tier as similar performance Nvidia GPUs. They will have to drop from around $1000 / 1000€ price to close to 700-800 range. 4080 used models will drop to that range pretty fast, so the whole high-tier market is full of much cheaper high-end cards.
I've been looking at potentially having to replace my 6700xt, and I was SHOCKED that the 7700XT was available for less money than the 6700xt is currently... but man I do not like doing single generation same tier upgrades.
Don't mean to burst your bubble but the 7700xt is not the successor to the 6700xt. The 7700xt is the successor to the regular 6700 non-xt. AMD pulled an Nvidia on us and they even officially said the same thing about the 7800xt. it replaced the 6800 non xt. Not the 6800xt.
@@CRF250R1521except it actually is a successor to 6700xt(everything but vram is increased spec wise cores, rops, clockspeed, etc) and its even based on the same gpu as the 7800xt(unlike the 6800 non xt, which is a lower tier gpu die vs the 6800xt)
Imo the 7900XT is the high end value king rn if you are looking for a long term raster investment. Great OC potential too, 20 gigs, hardware based AFMF, no multi display issues like Nvidia, 320 bit BUS.. If you invest in the 40 series rn, you will be left out in terms of features the next gen, as always. The 5090 will be sold out day 1 to scalpers, despite its horrible value (for gamers). The 5080 is a crazy cut down version of it (256 bit BUS only, like cmoooon). The 5070 is a crazy cut down version of the 5080 etc. Its just rediculous..
Hey why not get a 7900XT instead of 4070ti? Just curious cause I just bought a XFX 7900XT couple days ago for like 700 before tax from microcenter but I still can return I think and haven't put it in PC yet. I mainly play warzone and MMOs. Like ESO, Thrones and Liberty, New World.
He said it in the video that at that price point, the Nvidia featureset (the RTX and DLSS stuff) starts to make more sense. That said, if you don't care about that stuff, the 7900XT is a beast of a card (and that 20GB VRAM it has is no joke.) It's hella overkill for those games you play and it'll last you a very long time, so personally, if I had that card, I'd keep it.
@@BenyaminLorit thank you sorry I have severe ADHD and few other issues with my brain so I don't pick up on everything the first time. Usually have to watch videos and read stuff several times before it starts to stick. I'm upgrading from EVGA 3070ti I like the ray tracing and dlss is life saver but I want raw gaming performance. So went with this card. Thanks for replying.
What about the 7900 gre im very interested in upgrading from my 6800 and the price for performance is pretty amazing do u think this is a good upgrade?
If you are a gamer, buy a video card now! We have no clue on true stock numbers, possibility of Nvidia pushing the release back again past Q1 2025 or even scalped by bots! Life is too short to keep debating on if you should or shouldn’t but a video card. If you have the money now, buy it! Game on!
If you are a gamer and you find performance good enough then don't. Vote with your wallet. Plenty of interesting old games to try. Rat racing all the time makes you miss those. This is not a race and just enjoy your hobby
During prime day I found a RX 7900 XT on a major sale for about $830 CAD, but until then I was considering a RTX 4070 Super, the lowest of which was $800 CAD (about $600 vs $580 in USD). Since the prices were so close I went with the more powerful 7900 XT, but do you think the Nvidia features on the 4070 super would have been worth the raw performance cut at effectively the same price?
If price to performance is a major factor and you are not turning on RT/ FG, then it's better that you went with the 7900xt, especially cause you get that 20gb Vram vs 12 gb(I heard a lot of people get near their 12gb vram and can't max out their performance). At similar pricing, 7900xt is even more powerful than 4070ti super. It all depends on what you value more. I would say if you had the option between 4070 S, 4070 ti S, and 7900xt, if money is a concern, I would go with 7900xt, if money isn't much of a concern I would go with 4070ti S (also maybe be on sale on holiday season/black friday) or better yet wait for 50 series release.
Basically the big reason everyone goes NVIDIA vs AMD at the high end is just "RT or not" along with lower temps and tdp if it matters to you. So you did fine unless you're trying to go for heavy RT which in my opinion heavy RT is only even worth turning on for 4080 and above. Sure 4070 ti super can handle it but it won't be as smooth. 7900xt is a great performer even in lighter RT, just don't expect Cyberpunk Overdrive Path tracing on it. I'm also plenty interested in AFMF and their newer upscaler since they finally decided "heck let's just go AI"
I'm kinda tempted to go for a 7900 XT. Why? Well, it comes with 20GB and 320 bit bus for 700€ in my country. Taxes included. And it's definitely enough for my use and I don't really care about Ray Tracing anyway as I don't notice the difference most of the time. The only thing that worries me is if it can eventually use FSR 4 but at this point so few games support the latest and greatest features that I wouldn't be able to use anyway. And if 8800 XT comes with a 16GB and 256 bit bus then I don't know if it's worth it. And rumors suggest there is no 8900 XT or XTX. And even if something like that comes later and RDNA 4 or any future cards is miles better than 7900 XT, I'll just buy another card then and give the 7900 XT to my brother or sell it if he doesn't want it, lol. But I'm definitely switching away from Nvidia.
The things I worry about with waiting for next gen GPUs are, will I be able to get one at launch? Will Nvidia offer a reasonable price for a 16gb card? Will AMDs gpu have enough performance now that they aren't competing with the high end? If I wait for next gen GPUs and nothing is worth buying will I miss out on cheaper current gen pricing? I really hate the GPU market right now. It is absolute dogshit for consumers.
1) No. Best you can hope for is probably a 5070 18GB for $649-699. TSMC pricing isn't helping us out either. 2) Great performance for 1440p, at 4K it'll depend on the developer and your frame rate targets. FSR 4 could be a significant improvement over 3.1, if you're okay with upscaling. 3) If you're willing to buy used, pricing will be even better by that point. If you want to stick to retail, yes, because current-gen stocks will be dry by then.
@@Vorexia $700 for an 18gb 5070 sounds generous from Nvidia, if that is the case, will it even be available is the real question. I hope they do better this gen, but I find it doubtful. I'm currently looking at a 4070ti super/7900xt/xtx. If they keep dropping prices, I may have to pull the trigger.
@@JerrySpringfield1 Nothing theoretically stops it from being $749, yeah. Nvidia is no alien to having people pay an extra $100 for more VRAM, as seen with the 4060 Ti. Considering your selection of GPUs, I'd recommend waiting until RDNA 4 comes out in January, 2025. Leaks aren't to be trusted, but IF they are true, leakers have believed for quite some months now that the 8800 XT will be slightly faster than a 7900 XT at raster and on the same level than a 4070 Ti Super at RT. All for around $500. Again, to be taken with a heavy grain of salt, but if that's remotely true it could save you a hefty buck. But again, that would invoke the risk of the supply of your selected GPUs being in limited supply.
5070 is rumored to be 12Gb again... When the 4070 super is already bottlenecked by its VRAM 😂 If the 8800 XT is really as powerful as a 7900 XTX it will be at least 600$, so basically the only good GPU to buy rn is a 7800 XT at like 450$
I do not totally agree. With the "leaked" prices of the 50 series, the price per fps is going to be higher for the 50 series. And with the stock of the 4080 Super going down so fast (90% of retailers here in my country, has sold out their stock of the better versions of the 4080 Super), I would say now is the time to buy a 40 series card, as it has a better price per fps than the 50 series. At least as of release. Six month down the line, this might be different though. So we are talking about a time frame of summer next year maybe, before the 50 series could potentially be worth it. But then we go into the same circle of, should we wait or buy. Then we are eying the 50 series SUPER in the near future. And so continues the never ending circle. Now is absolutely the time to buy the 40 series. If you can wait for offers in November, then be careful, as most of the better versions will be sold out before that. I am sure there will be some nice deals on PNY, Zotac etc. If you are fine with those.
Last week, I bought an XFX Radeon 6750 XT 12GB for 300 at Best Buy. I thought about waiting but my gaming is shifting towards PC gaming. The 6750 XT, I considered to be the most powerful card that my 650 W PSU can support outside of the high price of a 4070. I'll still use my gaming laptop with a 4070 65W but that will probably be for when DLSS is a better use case (looking at you Cyberpunk 2077) or I just want to use HDR (OLED screen).
I’m able to use a 6800 XT with my 650W PSU, but I have a relatively low power CPU (i5 10400), so our situations are probably different. Just wanted to put it out there anyway just in case it helps someone.
Im in the same specs as you almost a nonth ago. I have a Gigabyte 6700xt bought 6mos ago for $230 and traded it 3weeks ago for a 6800xt with 1yr warranty adding $100 thus costing me only $330 for this. Yesterday I decided to upgrade my cpu and psu because I need more headroom thus traded my trusty 5600 and Corsair CX650 bronze to a 5700x3D and 850W Gold PSU FM only adding another $130 total. Now im set to skip the whole AM5 and current nvidia/amd gpu as 6800xt trade blows with the 7800xt/4070/3080ti
How much of a discount should we expect on these rtx 40 cards? I just want an idea of when these prices have hit the clearance point. I’m seeing PC deals now in Aus but don’t know if these are already clearance prices. Thanks!
I’m planning to get a new beefy PC for Black Friday, I got a 1080ti and parts from that era so I need to upgrade asap, but would be better to wait for the 5080 or grab a 4080 super during the Christmas period? All help appreciated,
@abc-ni9lp 8800xt = 7900xt=nothing in the 6000 series. The ps5 pro might be close to a 6800xt but it's rumoured to have a 8600xt. 8600xt=7700xt=6800xt...see the pattern
I haven't been in the GPU market for a while (still using a 1070). I'm ready to buy a new system and was considering a 4090, but the prevailing opinion seems to be wait. I've waited this long, so a few more months is not a big deal, but how much do you anticipate the 4090 will be discounted in the next few months? Also, it doesn't seem like any 5000 series GPU will be able to beat the 4090 other than the 5090, is that correct? And the 5080, which will be close(?), will still only come with 16GB VRAM? If I'm not going to save a ton of money on a 4090 in the next few months (by a ton of it would have to be at least $300+ to make a difference to me), I don't think buying one now is a bad idea. I'd be happy to be talked out of it. (I'm not primarily a gamer; 3D modeling, CAD, etc. with some gaming on the side.)
Sorry Daniel, just bought 4080 super pro art. I want to see how it stacks up against my XTX. The XTX lead is shrinking or gone in most cases since the amount of ue5 and RT always on games are increasing.
My next card will be the 7900GRE. That monster will go undervolted with a custom driver in my current full-size PC and my 4070S will go in my new small ff build for my LR. As usual when you buy a new Oled you start thinking about gaming in more then just one room, Lol.
Have to say, I recently purchased a used RTX 2080 Ti for just over £200 here in the UK, and am still blown away by it's performance, compared to a 4060 Ti. Even without DLSS, it rips through current games, and with it, wow.
I don't mind if I need to wait until feb for 5070/TI. The problem is the efficiency. Just hearing that I need more wattage already turning me off for the new gen. 750W is my upper limit, plain and simple.
