Your videos have been amazing for a first-builder like me. Unlike other channels, you explain the part selection process in understandable terms, instead of throwing big words and letters around.
Hi Jason, I'm doing my own prebuild myself and really appreciate pointing out that what ever i513600k or 1300kf is cheaper. Saved me about 25.00. Thanks for all the value you put into your videos!
7:00 The best advice I've heard. A slap of reality that I don't need to jump to DDR5. Thanks Jason! I'll probably need your advice again soon (boost my pc build).
The last desktop PC I built had a i7-3930K. It will be nice to see what a modern machine can do. Almost went with DDR5, but upon comparing price and benchmarks, DDR4 still made sense.. Especially since I'm looking to max out the memory 128GB. Thanks for the info.
Yeah. Ddr5 would be nice, but I can't justify it. It would just he a future proofing thing and by the time I'd feel the need to get it, I'd just be getting a new processor anyways most likely.
This was the exact video I was waiting for. I am doing my first build and was going to buy 12600k but I couldn't justify for the price. This just reiterate my thoughts. Pulled the trigger on a 13600k after watching. Also helped me on my choice for psu. Was going to get a 6800xt paired with this CPU so I was going to get 850 but this has opened my mind to a full 1000 watt psu.
@@s1mph0ny I agree. I used two separate online PSU calculators and at most was a 750. None of the results said 1000 watts at least based on my findings.
With the cost jump from 850w to 1000w being about 20$ I would gladly take the extra overhead to ensure all my future upgrades will get sufficient and clean power.
Wow! Just put together my first ever build just using only the knowledge I had from watching all your previous videos (before you dropped this one ): - 13600k - $300 - As rock Z690 extreme - $168 - Arctic Liquid freezer 2 240 mm aio - $92 - inland performance pcie 4.0 SSD 1TB $94 - 16gb ddr4 3600 rgb corsair- $60 - Gigabyte OC 3080 - $729 - CX750 power supply - $65 - lian li o11 mini air - $120 How did I do ?
My i5-9600K was struggling to max out my 3070 in a lot of situations. And the 1% low fps was not always good. The turning point was Spider-Man Remastered where the 9600K was loading the GPU below 70%. Last week, I upgraded my system for a 13600K. Now, in every games and situations, the 13600K is maxing out the 3070. And it's so much smoother. For anyone looking fot this kind of combo, I strongly recommend going with DDR5. I bought a cheap 5200 CL38 kit from XPG. I will probably recycle it in another system in 1 or 2 years so I can buy a better kit at a reasonable price.
the amount of effort, care and enthusiasm you put in your videos is astonishing. from time stamps to tiny details that people with ocd like me care about. s-tier contnet. thank you you deserve much more subs
I was aiming for 5800x3d but 13600k blew 5800x3d in most aspects. Lower power draw on gaming than 5800x3d, higher power draw by 33% on productivity But it's 50% faster. So it's a good trade. It even run structural computation COMSOL (I'm a civil engineer) nearly twice faster than 5800x3d. And value wise, the platform cost is almost the same with ddr4. As a value builder Intel really won this time imo. 7000series forcing ddr5 is a big reason to leave amd and go for intel this year. I was amd fanboy but the pandemic made me realize every brand is evil LOL. Made me realize to not be a fanboy and just get the good tech with good value!
If you're already invested into the AM4 platform then the 5800X3D makes a lot more sense as a solid upgrade that will last you at least 3 years. If you already have an LGA1700 CPU and motherboard then the 13600K is your new best friend.
Same here mate. Was about to go for 5800X3D from a 5600X for my 3080. Glad I hold for intel 13th gen launch. Since DDR5 prices are nuts and performance it's not that different I'm going for DDR4. AMD served me well but 7000 implying move to DDR5 is just a no. Same aswell for Nvidia RTX4000 forcing to deal with new connector, case and temps.. forget it. Only thing I'm concerned about it's the cooler for the i5 13600K since I have a Masterliquid 360ML from CoolerMaster I'll need to buy new bracket for the 1700 Socket.
Thank you for all of your sane content. I love that you focus on practicality rather than the most expensive thing you can possibly build. I've been thinking about upgrading from the Skylake machine I built several years ago and you've given me a lot of food for thought.
@@PCBuilderChannel So can this cpu run a ddr 6000 ? Because in the intel specs website it says that the max speed that this cpu could run is 5600. I am stuck there in neither should I pick a 6000 or a 5600
this video is highly relevant to my interests! either later this month for the black friday deals or next month for the xmas season i plan on a 13600 + 3080 + ddr5 build. with a $2000-$2400 budget i have been figuring out which case/mobo/cpu cooler to go with. (edit: as well i am not sure if i want to piece it together myself or order a prebuilt, thus the variance in budget) thanks for the content, i am eating it up right now!
@@nikhilabi2230 i definitely should have clarified that my budget numbers at the low end was from a pcpartpicker list and the higher end was essentially the same or comparable parts as a prebuilt/si purchase. because for me the eternal struggle is whether or not i want to spend the time and effort of waiting for all of the individual parts to arrive from different sources and then putting it all together vs having one thing arrive that is essentially plug and play.
Glad we could help! I'd take the money you are planing to spend on ddr5 and put it into upgrading your GPU though. It will get you way more performance
In 2022 most gamers rated the i5 12400 to be the best performance to price. Been conflicted on MBs, but I think the one you mentioned would do well. Paired with the RX 6700 XT or 6750 XT was what I was thinking or going with the 7600 that was just released. 32gbs of ddr4 at 3200 and a 750-850w semi to fully modular PSU seems straight. Think this is a pretty decent mid level 1440p experience that has room to upgrade. Get frustrated with case selection though. And PSUs are very expensive right now. But that MB selection seems great. I hate having to upgrade MBs, as it requires taking everything apart.
Just a quick note, you really want the Gigabyte z690 Gaming X (V2). Its about $10 more if you can find it and its MUCH more stable for RAM over 3600 and has even better VRMs. V2 easily does DDR4000 cl16 where as the non V2 is not stable over 3600 which is why a V2 was sneakily released!
Can we get a "best cases for 2022" video? For me, cases are a tough one, some have better airflow, some are better for modding, others are simply just good looking... Given the quality of your videos, It would be great to see your opinion on some of your favorite PC cases for 2022.
Thanks, this was eye opening! I'm looking to build my first pc in 10 years and was obviously over doing it in a few places. Especially going for DDR4 and a Z690 save quite a bit.
Finally finished my build with this CPU and 3070 combo. First time Fortnite on high settings and it looks so beautiful.... Way better than playing it in lowest settings on my phone. Can't wait to start streaming... Thanks!!
section at 7:00 is the first section to start with, for anyone building a PC. this section only eliminates 80% of mental stress when choosing parts, because it eliminates the trap of "future proof" concept. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Did a build around this chip and a 3080ti/DDR5. I'll just say, be careful about what z690 board you buy, as unless you have access to a 12th gen Intel chip, make sure you have Bios flashback. I had an Asus Tuf Gaming z690 that I had to take to a local computer store because my comp wouldn't boot into Bios since it couldn't recognize the CPU. Just a heads up for anyone looking to save on a Z690 and go 13th gen intel.
@@jerstah If you have a capable Motherboard, their should be a button on the Motherboard and a dedicated USB port which you download the required version of the Bios for you Motherboard. Insert the USB key and press the bios flashback button. Sometimes its just two pins you'd have to jump with a screwdriver (or a small metal object you hold near it). Tons of RU-vid videos on this.
The "k" variant is often $10 or less in additional cost to the non-k. Just get the K. If you ever have a GPU issue, with a K, you can troubleshoot and limp along. Without the k, you are dead in the water.
The integrated video on the K CPUs isn't just for content providers. It is extremely useful when setting up your PC and it's great for an additional monitor (I've got 4). Also, sometimes, oddly, the K is cheaper than the KF due to sales. For instance I got an i5-10600K for $200 years ago but the KF was $230. As always your mileage may vary.
@@vacakgagyi5248 I'm a developer, I do content creation, and I also game. All the monitors are useful for different things in each use case. For gaming I normally use three (game, guide, RU-vid/Spotify), but I often use all four for work (dev, test output/deployment, virtual machines monitoring, and the website I'm working on).
I disagree with the b660 mb, there are a few that are around 100$ less than the cheapest z690 and z790 that can easily handle this cpu, also nowadays overclocking is not worth it and overclocking this CPU better that what turbo boost can do is pretty hard even with some experience. The only reason I would recommend a z690 o z790 is because of more PCI lanes and USB, but even like that, premium b660 mb that cost the same as entry level z690 or z790 usually have the same specs on ports and PCI but premium b660 have more features like premium audio, wifi, Bluetooth. I like your videos since you always make good recommendations, but this time I think you made a huge mistake with b660 mb
Your videos are amazing for first-builders and non experimented people, it's been 3 weeks that I watch videos daily and look for what AIO to use, what MB etc. and that's the first time I have a simple and clear answer... I went here just to know what MB I needed and you told me everything I needed and should have known xD Thanks a lot, your work is astonishing, not and never less.
I have just built a PC with an i5-13600K as a replacement for an intel 7700 that I use as my daily driver. I am not a gamer, but I find the gamer-creator community is a great resource for the computers that I build or buy for my family. I used a Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX motherboard and an NH-15DS CPU cooler. I chose the 15DS due to the narrow Fractal Design Pop Air case. The cooling is good with the HWMonitor reporting a 60 C CPU rise from idle to full load. Cinebench scores are 2176 for single thread and 24328 for multi-thread. The CPU package draws 168 W, with 225 W coming out of the wall receptacle. The power supply is RM650X 80 Plus Gold. Assuming 80% efficiency That is only 180 W measured on the supply side. This leaves about 470 W continuous for a graphics card. I have ordered two different graphics cards, the first is an Intel Arc A770, while the second is an MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090. The A770, with a total board Power (TBP) of 225 W will be used in my new daily driver. The 4090 will be used in a similar build with a refaned Pop Air, water-cooled with an Artic Freezer 280, and an RM850X 80 Plus Gold. This would make a great gaming PC but is a replacement for a work PC I built with an i7-12700K with a 3090 FE.
Love your videos, very helpful. When do you think you’ll be putting out a video for black Friday sales? Especially mid range for a hybrid productivity/gaming rig?
As soon as we start seeing deals we will start posting them with community posts and on twitter @pcbuilderjason. We plan to start dedicated Black Friday videos on the 19th but that's subject to the deals of course (;
I love this video. I was doing about a month of research before buing my setup and its really simillar to your recomendation. You also talk about all the important things and the recomended paring is just fire
For me personally, I've found that one terabyte of memory just doesn't cut it anymore given all of the games I like to play. And considering that games nowadays take up a lot of space. Anyone else feel this way?
Yes, In true data and game hoarder fashion likely am migrating games from 1 tb to 20tb. Main game I play is 96.3 Gb across all versions, so they are 4k file size or larger. The older titles aren't as bad though as far as hogging space. I moved games from 3 tb hdd to 1 tb next they will go on the larger one with perhaps the 1 tb as backup. Friend of mine years ago had 2 tb ssd for all his games, so I probably should have planned similarly. It's more about archival and being able to play whatever, than my actually playing the library. Have about 27 tb of storage now, not having room for whatever was giving me anxiety so horribly.
Hey I really love your videos and have been watching them while trying to select out my first build. It might be cool to see essentially the same thing but lock in the 13600k and swap out the GPUs/boards/RAM in the same way, budget, professional, gamer. Great resource, thanks for all the hard work and info you share!
Thanks for all your awesome videos, thanks to you I was able to decide on my new system. This is my new setup: Case: - Cooler Master MasterBox MB530P Motherboard: - MSI MPG Z690 EDGE WIFI CPU: - Intel Core i5 13600KF - 3,5Ghz Memory: - Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 32GB(3600Mhz) White SSD: - Samsung 980 PRO 1TB (M.2) GPU: - AMD RADEON RX 6800 XT 16GB CPU cooler: -- Cooler Master Hyper H410R RGB Any toughts? :) Cheers!
I greatly appreciate the input on ddr4 vs ddr5. I've been battling this choice for a few weeks now. At this time, I'm still going z790 ddr5, because Im too scared to flash the bios on a 690, and I've read that 13th gen runs 30-50% slower on 690s. Could just be a tactic to buy 700 series board, but nonetheless. And I'm opting for a 5200 or 5600 16gb ddr5 kit. Pricing I've found is between 90-120$. I'm going to do that and in a year or so, if the pricing comes down, I'll upgrade kits. 16gb should suffice.
I'd go with 32GB 5200 which you should be able to find for $160 or so. Good z690s run the CPUs at full speed and flashing the bios is trivial if the mb has a dedicated USB slot for it. You just copy a file and push a button. I have a 13th gen i5 and Tomahawk z690 working happily here.
Purchasing a 13600k and a rx6950xt. At first I thought it was going to be to much CPU but it looks like I made a decent choice. I was only looking to spend around $600 on a gpu so I decided on the RX 6950XT instead of the rtx 4070. Good to know maybe in a few years throw a 4090 with that cpu and I can upgrade my 1440p rig into a 4K monster. I also had to upgrade my mobo because I am coming from a 2060 super and a i5-9600k.
Excellent review and summary of the recommended parts for an i5-13600k build. I found this extremely helpful. So glad I came across this review. Thanks.
Still can’t decide between these three cpu choices for my new build. They all have their downsides. Almost seems best to go with the dead end AM4 5800x3d build for gaming since even the 7600x build’s motherboard would need to be replaced for better DDR5 in the future.
I’m in the same situation except I’m building all new from nothing. I’m thinking about going AM5 w/ 7600x and ddr5 so I’ll have more flexibility in the future if I want. but the AM4 with 58003dx with ddr4 would be enough for my gaming wants. 4k gaming is all I’d like but could settle for 1440 if the cost difference was over 1.5k
Just did a i5-13600K build after watching previous videos. I went for a 1000W power supply for future GPU upgradeability in mind (bought a used 2080 Super for $300 to start with). I did go with DDR5 on a z690 motherboard as I thought it might have benefits in video editing and also got K for the iGPU. I got very high scores in a benchmark for Vegas Pro with this combination and for a total cost of about $1800 US. I will pick up a second m2 drive when prices come down to keep cache and swap files off the main hard drive.
All the parts were high quality. I got a used z690 Tomahawk from Amazon Warehouse but it was like new. There's a Hynix P41 2TB drive on sale now which would make this build even cheaper today. Corsair 1000W cooler. Lian Li II Mesh case, Corsair Vengeance ram 5200 (64GB).
Hello Jason! Firstly, thank you for providing such relevant and educative information on the daily. Currently, I am building myself a new PC, and have already pruchased a 6800 XT, 13600KF, Z690 Gaming X DDR5, Kingston Fury Beast 5200 2x16GB CL40, Pure Power 11 1000W, KC3000 1GB,AK620 and the Thermaltake v350. Can you please advise if there is anything I have overlooked and can improve in this? Also, I have seen the argument that even CL36 or CL40 DDR5 Ram, which has worse timings preforms better than current fast DDR4, what is your take on this? Keep up the good work, and thank you for everything you are providing for free. Cheers!
It depends on your application and how sensitive it is to RAM latency vs bandwidth. For example, DDR4-3200 CL16/DDR4-3600 CL18 provide ~50GB/s of bandwidth with 10ns latency. Your DDR5-5200 CL40 provides ~81GB/s with 15ns latency. What are your applications? Some workloads such as Excel, 7zip/WinRAR, code compilation and some games love the extra bandwidth DDR5 gives them and care little for latency. But some latency sensitive games might not react so well (however Raptop Lake's improved caches can mitigate this somewhat).
@@kirby0louise Thank you for your information, I have seen that the DDR5 Ram responds differently for different type of tasks, but in newer games the performance seems present. I can understand the login behind people who stick with DDR4, as when I decided to use the 13600KF I decided to leave myself space for "Future Proofing", but as Jason said, most likely by the time I need the upgrade, I do not think the better Ram will make a difference, but the DDR5 memory slot might, who knows. Thank you for your comment nontheless. Cheers!
thank you for the all the info! how relatable this can be for an i7 13700k + 4080 build? In terms of mobo/psu/cooling? I am new to PC building things, but looking for upgrade... pretty much learning everything from youtube and your channel in top-3 most watched for sure ^^ thanks once again
How much is the price of your build going to be? I created a build similar with a 3080 and 850w psu and a aio cooling and it’s ranging to 2100. Surely yours will be much higher because you can’t cheap out on the other parts
It's a bit disingenuous to suggest only video editors should get a K model and everyone else should get KF if it's cheaper. There are many benefits to troubleshooting GPU issues by having a processor with an integrated GPU that make the extra $10-$15 worth it. A couple right off the top of my head include a faulty GPU right out of the box. Imagine finishing a build and you get no video output, an integrated GPU will help you discern that the problem is in fact the discrete GPU. Another example is a bad VBIOS flash. You can recover your GPU if you can boot your computer with the integrated GPU. Otherwise this video was very solid.
About the PSU's, I know your builds are pretty much revolved around 1.5x the power, but I've seen many other builds, with more power hungry components with smaller psu's, like an i7 13700k with an rtx 3080 and an 850W PSU, and it seemed to be fine. Is it actually fine or not?
I’m running a 13600k @ 5.3Ghz and an overclocked 3080 ftw3 (triple 8 pin connectors) with a 750w Evga supernova G2 from 2015. Max benchmarking load is ~600w. With no issues. I think it’s possible to run a lower wattage power supply, just make sure it’s a quality one (this PSU was rated very highly in it’s time)
I had a 5600X and a 3080, my computer shut off a couple times with a 850 watt psu. It was a good seasonic one as well. Switched to 1000 watt EVGA and have had no problems. (now with 5800X3D)
Just found your channel and planning on building a new computer, although the price part is off for me seeing i live in a different country, everything else has been really helpful!!! also the are nice to watch 🙂
Thank you very much! I am learning a lot since I watch your videos! I plan to use a 13700KF with a rtx 4080. Picking case and AIO is driving me crazy. I want a better refrigeration (maybe 280-360mm) but in order to mount it on the top, it would need a bigger case, do you think it is really needed? What do you think is the smartest AIO + Case combination for this build? I really appreciate your work.
AND REMEMBER - Update your Intel Management Engine drivers BEFORE flashing to the latest bios to get 13th gen support. I didn't do that and my B660 board was unable to see my PCIe4 SSD w/ Windows 11, even though it had no problem booting w/ the 13600K. Can't explain it, just know it happened.
Wasn't there some information that came out that a Z690 mobo can make a 13th gen cpu lose up to 20% preformance? DDR5 is starting to see a noticeable fps gain over DDR4 in some games too so it's definitely beginning to settle in. I guess if you have the extra cash to splooge go for z790 + ddr5 but if you wanna save like 200-400bucks go for ddr4 z690.
@@rsmith02 "research them before you buy" Lmao i did by watching a video where some z690's were causing the 13th gen cpus to lose performance. But it dont matter, i went with the gigabyte z790 elite ax and 13700k. works flawlessly
12600k i5 Intel with ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 LGA1700(Intel® 12th Gen) ATX Gaming Motherboard(PCIe 5.0,DDR4,16+1 Power Stages,WiFi 6,2.5 Gb LAN,BT v5.2,Thunderbolt 4,4xM.2 and Front USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type-C. White/RGB build
dude, youre literally solving every single question I ask to myself into 20 minutes videos. Im starting to suspect you can read our minds lol. Thanks alot for the content. Just awesome the specific and acurate they are. GZ!
Dear Jason, I'm planning to build my new gaming PC for 1440P resolution. Here's the build I have in mind: GPU: RTX 4080 16GB Processor: Core i5 13600K Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Pro RAM: DDR5 5600MHZ SSD: Samsung 980 PRO SSD 2TB Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB PSU: EVGA SUPERNOVA 1000W G6 Case: CORSAIR 400D Airflow Can you please suggest me if it's ok or should I make any changes in it. Thanks 🙏
Some challenges here: Cooler is way too small. Rewatch that section. I don't love 5600 DDR5 vs DDR4 3600 CL16. It's both more expensive and I fear you won't see any uplift (possibly go backwards if the timings are too loose). Samsung Pro 2TB is expensive, consider a cheaper gen 3 drive instead and put that money into better cooling. Couple of tweaks and this will be a good build.
Really nice and informative content for completely new PC builder. I can actually understand and get valuable information from these videos. Ended up with below setup (thanks to this and multiple other videos in your channel): GPU: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB CPU: Intel Core i5-13600KF 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690 GAMING X DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 SSD: Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Case: Lian Li LANCOOL III RGB ATX Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 PSU: Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W Let's hope it POSTs once updated the BIOS and assembled :D
Man, I just threw a pcpartpicker list together for the first time in like 3 or so months, GPU prices went back up again. I was in the market for 3080 12gb's back when I was checking a ton and they were around 7-800$ usd and now the 3080 12gb I want is upwards of 1300$. Real shame, because I am finally at the point where I've saved up enough to start looking again, but I'm gonna be stuck waiting for prices to come down, or maybe I'll have to save a bit more and start looking at 4080's, because 1300 for a 3080 seems silly when brand new 4080s are in that range.
3080s, 3090s and even 3070s are selling out. Is there a reason you can't go AMD? Unless you do a lot of video editing they are much better price to performance options right now for gaming
Just go with the 6800 xt, they are 550-600 and perform just as good if not better than the 3080. If it’s just a AMD thing than go for the 4070TI for 840
I have this 13600k love it. paired with rtx 4080 Gamerock OC for Mainboard i choose: Asus Rog Strix z690-A gaming Wifi with 32x GB DDR5 6000mhz G.Skill RAM /white build
For someone who is always saying to check the motherboard’s audio codec, I’m surprised that you recommended a motherboard that doesn’t have anything other than a line out.
Always better to get the k vs kf on any cpu - its only a few bucks more and if you ever have a problem with your gpu you can still boot up and have a display for troubleshooting.
I actually started the channel because I returned to pc building after a break and wishes their was a channel to get me all caught up! So glad we can help (:
@@PCBuilderChannel thanks you for replying. Also i saw that you helped the people affected by the latest earthquake in Turkey and you donated to the food banks. We were woken up by the quake at 3 am and it was a horrifying experience even though we’re 400 miles away. I also just subbed to your channel, i finally specced my PC and i’m gonna get it this weekend, spent way over my 1200$ budget😬. Thanks again.
I'm always curios about 4K streaming as DDR5 might see a benefit on that scenario... CPU might show low usage during this things but memory does some extra job rendering those encoders for the game, camera and others things. Also how it might impact loading of heavy textures on real-time scenarios like using a speed-hack and running all around an open world at 4K (Horizon Dawn, GTA, etc...)
DeepCool AK400 ZERO DARK. Even in extended load it does not allow it to exceed 80°, on a day-to-day basis it keeps it at 32° to 34°, without problem. Highly recommended.
I'm about to build a new PC here in Germany and I find your videos very helpful, especially since i kinda got hyped on the i5-13600k as cpu for the system. Since I'm not the classical Gamer and mainly play high calculation power consuming games like Paradox Titles, Humandkind,.. but want to also be able to jump in more graphical intense games here. Apart from that i want to use the pc for office stuff and probably for some youtube video production. So I planned to save a little more money on the GPU and get a GeForce RTX 3060 Ti instead. I felt like with calculated wattage on PCPartpicker of 480W, I'd be finde with a 750W PSU in this case. On the other hand, i would've gotten 32 GB RAM, and since the prices for the Gigabyte Z690 Series are almost the same, and the difference between Kingston Fury Renegade 32GB DDR4-3600 CL-16-20-20 and DDR5-5200 CL40-40-40 is only 30€. Am I still overspending on the RAM here? I watched your RAM Video as well as the Z690/Z790 Video as well and learned a lot, maybe too much to process properly :D Thanks a lot anyways, great videos
Well did you changed something? I'm about to build pc as well so I'd like to know if you changed you mind on something. I feel like i should go with asus rog strix B760-A wifi because the overclocking won't change a lot and I could save some money there.
@@negus5534 It's running very smoothly and i can't complain so far. Went for the Z690UD with 32gb ddr4 ram and upgraded the gpu a bit more to a rx 6800. I don't know anything about the mainboards, but after watching some videos and comparing for a bit, i focussed on the gigaby z690 series very quickly since they were not much more expensive than the b660 series and seemed to be quite nice.
I just built my PC a couple weeks ago and I've been bit by the PC building obsession virus! I wanted to upgrade to the i7-12700K but noticed I need a different motherboard. I have a list of add-ons I want for my PC, and now I'm here on your 13TH Gen build guide- decided that if I'm going to upgrade and need a few more parts..... I'm going 13th Gen, and I am going to basically "build down" my current build and get age appropriate GPU, ram, storage etc, for the biggest birthday/Christmas surprise for my son this year - his very own PC! I haven't been able to afford Anything big and "cool" yet besides his switch lite and the look on his face when he saw the switch was for him, was the greatest feeling in the world! He said "wow, I didn't think I was going to ever get one!" So I think a PC is in order.... earlier than planned because mom has been bit by the PC building obsession virus! 😂😂
This video is awesome! I'm confused by all the different options as I don't have a lot of knowledge. I've always just bought pre built laptops. I want to build a custom desktop and your information and explanations are excellent and easy to understand. Great channel. I'm going to delve into your other videos. Cheers!
Most people aren't going to see any difference between DDR4 and DDR5 in performance. DDR4 is cheaper though currently. Though I think Intel for the future 14th gen is going DDR5 only in the future. If future upgradable is a concern for you buy a DDR5 motherboard for 13th gen and then in the future you will be able more easily to move from a Z790 DDR5 board to a future Z890 DDR5 board(or whatever the next gen chipset is going to be called).
Great explanation, will be coming back here Winter 2023 when intel 14th gen and amd 8000 build. Also subscribed and thumbs up. Needed these type of explanation since its been 14 yrs since last build.
i have a i5 13600k, radeon 6700, ddr5, z690a tuf wifi plus, and i only have a corsair cx 650m which seems to power everything just fine. no issues no crashing while gaming or anything. i also have an ie 214 $20 cooler and it cools it just fine while gaming. doesn't go above 80 degrees under a heavy gaming load. yes, if you want to run synthetic loads in cinebench and get high scores in that than you should get a better cooler, otherwise, this 20$ cooler works just fine for gaming. and for the psu, you don't need more than 750W. this dudes high recommending 1000w psu's. only need that if you have a 4000 series gpu, even then you'd prob be ok with 800w
Damn, yesterday I finally sold my Robotron KC85/3, those 1.75 MHz (!) were a bit basic... Altough this is actually a true story, for the last 5 yrs I was okay with my i5-4570 with GTX970, can still play Forza Horizon 5 nowadays or two android emulator at once, even on Ryzen 1200. And now I got a used rig with a i7-9700 and RTX2070 and I'm happy with it, satifies my use cases. And I see people pondering about 4 gens newer CPUs and 2 gens newer GPUs and a new DDR with another twice performance. Guys, get a good price/value of what came out the latest years and you have more time to actually play and more money for games, instead of pondering to much, life is to short.
Thanks for reviewing, Just did my storage a week ago (20 TB so like 27 total I feel much less anxiety). Just but either I wait for the new X3D or see what deals Black Friday/Cyber Monday brings. I really did have much anxiety about running out of room before. Though I want to hit the CPU next likely in the next upgrade.
I have a 13600kf on a B660 Asus ROG Strix mini ITX with Crucial DDR5 Ram and a MSI 240 mm cooler. I have seen 193.6 Watts and 81 degrees when all 20 cores were running constant 100% for 10 minutes straight running photogrammetry, everything else stayed cool, so yeah I can vouch for this board He is right you need to get a board with a decent VRM for this chip. When purchasing I know of one board which only supplies 150 Watt. DDR5 cost me $70 extra over equivalent crucial 3200 DDR4 ram. With what I do with this machine overclocking is pointless because my software runs it so hard I couldn't cool it anyway.
I have a serious question... Should I choose "Kingston Fury Renegade 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL16" instead of G.Skill Ripjaws that you put on your video? Can you explain me please what's the difference or if its equal memory ram?
@@kelley09162 I'm asking for the difference because the Kingston Ram as "16-20-20 timing" with a "First Word Latency of 8.88ns". The G.Skill Ram as "16-19-19-39 timing" with a "First Word Latency of 8.89ns". In my country the Kingston is slighty cheaper than G.Skill. And I want to know what's the difference in perfomance between them or if is better choosing the Kingston ram instead of G.skill for this i5-13600kf build :) HELP ME xD
@@PCBuilderChannel Got the i5 13600k and thought I would be able to use my old RAM cmk16gx4m2d3000c16, after many days of troubleshooting with my MAG Tomahawk wifi DDR4 (done all the 13th gen flashing) and I could not get it to post. I looked on MSI's compatibility list and my RAM isnt listed, getting new RAM tomorrow so hope this is the issue but surprised that it wouldnt work?
@@PCBuilderChannel It was! specially your recommendation on motherboards since at least in my country the only ones available are overpriced ASUS or MSIs z690s, and if you want to buy them from other country any purchase over $200 is heavily taxed, so the ones you recommended even with shipping costs included actually are 70% of the cost of worse MBs here lol
I mostly don't know what mobo to get with 13600k. I'm building my PC now and I plan on keeping my PC parts for 4-5 years or so and game,and work on 1440p. So I've been debating on getting with z690 ddr4 , since I have 32gb 3600 ram, 13600k with my 3080 vision oc gpu. I figured that getting ddr5 board and ram wasn't too worth it currently and that in 4-5 years, go with ddr5 but I'm not sure. Mostly because I don't know if it's more that the mobos need the improvement for ddr5 to be much better or the ram itself.im not too tight on my budget , but also don't want to needlessly spend so I want a good overall value while also not feeling like I'm missing out on a lot and leaving it on the table.
Thanks for the video, subbed. I redoubled my researching efforts after ordering a 13600k, AK620 and z690 aorus elite... because thats why I do, I order things and then research them in detail :D You put my mind at ease a bit hehe I think I did the right thing, my only worry is the 750w Corsair paired with a 1080ti which I am reusing until Q1 2023 (not sure what GPU to get), but I think I should be ok. Worst case I can limit something until I get a beefier suuply.
