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“Say what you want about Cersei, she loves her children. She is the only one I’m certain had nothing to do with this murder. Which makes it unique, as far as Kings Landing murders go”, is such a low key hilarious line.
It's Tywin, he's smart. Man was trying to talk Tyrion out of it which he almost succeeded, but he simply didn't account for how much Tyrion actually love Shae. And when Tywin realised is the end for him, no more chances, he said what he wanted to said all this time.
It's funny how the only times Tywin thought Tyrion was his son was when he believed Jaime was as good as dead or when he has a crossbow pointed at him.
@@redace4821 This is why the show was so terrible compared to the books lol, "how much Tyrion actually loves Shae," besides the fact Shae didn't love or care about Tyrion in the slightest bit-and besides the fact Tyrion was simply trying to mirror what he had with Tysha his first wife-the reason he shoots Tywin is because he calls TYSHA a whore, not because he called the whore who outright lied and testified against him at his trial then fucked his dad 30 minutes before killing him a whore . . . The reason he even went to Tywin's solar to begin with is because Jaime told him the truth about Tysha, and how she actually loved him and wasn't just a paid off whore, and Tyrion came away from that DESPISING Jaime and currently wants to bring nothing but death and destruction on House Lannister and all of King's Landing. Absolutely insane they wrecked this scene and character arc so badly, in the books this right here is the moment Tyrion becomes a villain-the guy who rapes a prostitue and wanted to hurt her purely for the sake of hurting her, the guy who tricks Aegon Targaryen (aka "Young Griff") and his protector Jon Connington (who served Rhaegar) into ditching their original plans to outright invade the Seven Kingdoms on a whim. But instead we get Saint Tyrion The Pious who can't even have normal sex with a prozzie in a brothel, the buffoon whose plans constantly end up failing, the guy who actually said that CERSEI "isn't a bad person," the guy who refused to give his consent on taking King's Landing by force and with dragons despite the fact they all turned on him and didn't give a shred of gratitude for saving their city at the Blackwater . . Ain't trying to be a cockhole, it's just maddening to me how badly they messed this show up.
@@CommanderLongJohnThe books are an edgy cluster f*ck. I don't blame the show runners for trying to make somebody among the 50 billion characters likable.
unfortunately, it was the opposition that brought out the best in Tyrion. look at how Jaime turned out from being the favorite son. only Tyrion could live up to Tywin's strength, because they both fought the weakness of their fathers. Tywin's father Tytos allowed other house's to take advantage of his house's wealth. he weakened his house till they were the laughingstock of Westeros. Tywin rose up and took control of their army and slew house Rayne who was sworn to the Lannisters.
agreed, he has amazing strategies and could have easily helped him against Daenerys, probably would have thought of the scropions before even meeting that Mayster
That stinger from "The Rains of Castamere" just brings it home; Dwarfism notwithstanding, Tyrion is actually *everything* Tywin claimed to want in an heir; ruthless, brilliant, and dedicated to the family. Tywin refused to acknowledge that to the bitter end, and forgot that *he* would not take that kind of crap from anyone - so neither would Tyrion. "In a coat of gold or a coat of red, a lion still has claws. And mine are long and sharp, my lord, as long and sharp as yours." Burn in all seven hells, Tywin.
Demonex He was dedicated, more dedicated than Cersei and Jamie. But Tywin took a shit on his face every turn he had. (Just throwing my opinion out there.)
@@Demonex118 well Tyrion faced stannis instead of running away defending his sister and nephew who despised him and even committed treason by freeing Jaime so he and cersei would be safe . What more commitment do you need
@@growingstruggle5493 It seems like a rather stupid conceptual theory only born from the idea of him being a candidate for dragon rider. The thing is, I don't think you *need* targaryen blood to do so. Either way, it cheapens the impact that Tyrion killing Tywin had, along with the addition of the aftermath- which people have, too, made a stupid theory about him being poisoned instead of just allowing it to be a narrative. If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, it was assumed in a theory that Rhaegar the Mad King had, in fact, gotten 'frisky' with the wife of Tywin, his hand. Making Tyrion a Targaryen. In addition to this, in the books it was stated that Tywins body smelled horrendously after his death. But, this was a narrative choice more than some coincidental issue that so apparently was caused by poisoning. "Tywin Lannister did not, in fact, shit gold" is the main quote. Which is talking more about the flaws Tywin had as a father and as a nobleman. Tyrion also shot him in the gut, around where his bowels laid. So, of course he'd smell like shit, if you want to go for a more literal sense of what happened. None of that poison shit.
no matter how many times I see and hear Tyrion give that speech at his "confession", I always get goosebumps. How did an actor this fantastic end up playing in Pixels :/, thats a crime against the arts of acting
He's proven that his condition isn't always an obstacle. Take the X-men movies for example. I think the only real obstacle he faces is one he put on himself; he refuses to play a character who lets themselves be defined as "just a dwarf". I suppose Tyrion was an excellent way for him to go against that, as Tyrion himself refuses to let his condition define who and what he is. It's not like I don't understand that decision though. But it's a shame nonetheless.
It doesnt seem so sweet when you learn that its possible that Dumb and Dumber could've included the scene as a jab at Orson Scott Card, who critisized the show. Its believable as the book has no such character, this scene doesnt really serve any purpose and the Tyrion's statement on "Laughing at other person's mysery was the only thing that made me feel normal" contradicts the love for "bastards and broken things" he otherwise displayed. Normally I would've dissmissed it as a rumour as its way too childish to do such thing, but since it comes from the creators of "Arya kills the NK to subvert the expectations" im not so sure it isnt true.
@@redace4821 and Tyrion has a golden comeback this time. "I am your son, I have always been your son" - Indicating that he is doing exactly what Tywin himself would have done under those circumstances.
One is left to ponder what place Peter Dinklage visited in his head before taking the set to act out the confession scene. There is not a single piece of television acting I've ever seen more compelling. Equal to, yes, but nothing that surpasses this.
There’s also not a lot of scenarios in modern day acting where actors are given the opportunity to display such conviction. A role with so much history, buildup. Tyrion lashing back at Tywin and Cercei had been brewing for a long while, 3-4 seasons actually. Finally, he was framed by the murder of his nephew BY his sister and his FATHER approved it while his BROTHER tried to get a deal forcing Tyrion into the Nights Watch. It can’t get much more fucked than that. That’s what makes the scene so compelling. Yes Peter Dinklage is a fantastic actor; and creating an unparalleled moment in GOT history. It’s sad nothing else has buildup nowadays.
@@tpkchubbzz2651 I think he meant more what Dinklage had to endure, rather what Tyrion went through. Being that Dinklage is obviously a dwarf in reallife, that moment was maybe more than just acting. Maybe all the words spewing out of him that moment were just the script he uttered, but fired with the pain of the real world. I can imagine Peter Dinklage had his fair share of discrimination that made this entire moment so believable.
I imagine he visited his own life and dug from that emotion. When he says the line “I’m on trial for being a dwarf”, is when his teeth really begin to nash. He probably dug up all kinds of prejudice from his own life and poured that into his speech.
The speech in his trial and killing his father has to be my to favourite scenes of the hole show. God I love Tyrion, he's simply the best character, wich George RR Martin also thinks.
I think the confession scene was Tyrions breaking point at all the abuse, underappreciation and betrayal of his family and those he trusted enough to call friends that he allowed to bottle up inside of him for 35 years and finally, the bottle broke
I was so glad to see Tyrion survive, & become Hand to the King again, because he was just SO damn good at that task. The brotherly interactions between Jaime & Tyrion, yeah, great writing there. And if Tywin had seen the Undead, that would've been interesting, but I know he'd have kept an agreement.
I love when Pedro Pascal leans forward after tyrion asks for a trial by combat, you can literally read the " you don't say??? " on his face hahahahaha epic he was such a beast in this show wish they didnt kill him off so soon...
He immediately knew he might have a chance to get his revenge on Ser Gregor Clegane. He was only in Kings Landing to kill that fuck, and Tywin who he likely poisoned to the extent he couldn't shit and his body was filling up with all the crap and pee he couldn't get out. Then Tyrion finished the job with a crossbow. Tywin was in there the entire time Tyrion was with Shae and killing her, and his bowels only released when he died.
I love Tywin's death scene, to watch him utter the phrase "you are my son" for the last time in hope that it will tame Tyrion like it did before so many times yet understanding it was futile at that point felt like he was pleading for mercy, you could even see genuine fear in his eyes when he said it. But then his pride got in his way once more and he got the death he deserved, even mad man could see humility was a thing he never understood.
Hellz yeah. Tywin Lannister is dead... the gungy two-timing fuck. May the Seven Hells welcome him with open arms, especially the one reserved for those who betray their own blood.
I came down here looking for this comment, like Tyrion really just glossed over how his older brother was almost molested by a Maester I know he was going through it but damn lmao
Even after the season 8... i'm still a great fan of GOT and A Song of Ice and Fire. And as a fan of this, everyday I praise the person who choose Peter Dinklage for playing Tyrion Lannister
I finally watched him in the movie Cyrano. (2021). Peter was freaking awesome. Unfortunately the rest of the cast weren't as up to the challenge. I would have to say he was robbed of awards for his role.
I’m starting to feel sorry for Shae. She didn’t know what return was up to when he said those words. She had no idea he was trying to to protect her. She became very bitter over that harsh breakup.
"I've been on trial for beinf a dwarf my whole life" scene is Tyrions POWER scene. To me it's one of the best scenes in GOT, along with him freeing the 🐉 dragons
There's a line in the books that I wish was included. Before he killed Tywin, when he said "You're no son of mine", Tyrion replies with "I am you kilt small". Honestly, one of the coolest, coldest lines I've ever heard.
I've always loved the scene where Tyrion "confesses". Something about it reminds me of some of Nicholas Cage a bit. I think it's that perfect level of "overacting" that makes it so memorable.
The two bolts that Tyrion hit Tywin were cold, full of intent to kill. The first time I watched, i thought that Tyrion killed Tywin under impulse and emotional outburst. But after re-watch, I am sure that the moment he saw his father, he decided to kill him regardless of what Tywin says. When Tyrion said that he was always his son and fired the second bolt, he meant, I think, Tywin's ruthless cruelty
Once he killed Shae killing his father was easy by comparison. He loved Shae, his father hated him for being born and often treated him subhuman referring to him as "waddling about". As much as he still wanted his father's respect the hate would have run deep and then sentencing him to die for a crime he was innocent of was the final straw even before the final betrayal and all the hypocrisy as his father had no problem bedding a whore. He 100% was going to kill him no matter what but Tywin made it easy
Ironically, the actor's gigantic charisma sort of ruined the show. Tyrion is a villan after his "confession" in the books. The actor was too good in the first half of the story.
@@jillbill7752 his thoughts are constantly guided by malice. His ultimate goal is to get to Daenarys to bring death to Westeros and his family, fucking shit up along the way. What do you call it?
@@jillbill7752 yeah I suppose. But you cant attack the capital without attacking the kingdom. And regardless of the scale, the intent is there. He stopped being and doing good in almost every way
@@jillbill7752 the books have Tyrion decide to "become the monster everyone sees him as", he hasn't gotten around to being fully evil yet, but he plans on raping and killing Cersei, so he's not still a good guy
My favourite character from his first sentence..the who truly should have ended on the throne..the only one..for all the reasons..and they ruined that..of all the things they screwed up..that is the mist horrendous
It's nowhere near as good as when Tyrion demands trial by combat. This guy always seems to find someone to fight for him because he's too small to fight himself. Love Tyrion.
Im really curious where Tywin was going with that if Tyrion hadn’t shot him, It almost seemed like he was heading towards an epiphany about how he treats tyrion
So I wonder if Tywin knew Olenna put that poison in the cup with wat Tyrion is saying here 🤔 never noticed…. I mean he was sitting next to Olenna at the wedding
Guess he doesn't expect anyone to interrupt. The only other person could have been there is Shae, but with his pant down, I don't think he mind having Shae walk in.
