Best Oil Undercoating. Not Fluid Film!

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I've always oil undercoated our vehicles. The oil undercoat helps protect the frame and body from rust when our road salt is on the Pennsylvania roads during the winter snow season. In this video, we discuss bar and chain oil undercoat, and Fluid Film. Fluid Film has a lot of great uses, but I've found that it may not be the best undercoating for vehicles. I talk about pricing and tips for undercoating your car or truck. Best oil undercoating. #oilundercoating #truckundercoat #fluidfilm #roadsalt #purplecollarlife
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0:00 - Intro
0:44 - Road salt and grime
1:44 - Oil undercoat 2005 F-350
3:09 - Drill and plug?
4:24 - Undercoating layer
6:07 - No Fluid Film after oil
8:06 - Rust after 17 years
9:48 - Undercoated Ford Expedition
10:18 - Undercoated Ford Ranger
11:20 - NOT undercoated Chevy Volt
11:44 - Undercoating pricing
12:55 - Road trip in Expedition story
15:13 - Thanks for watching

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@KillingItCountry 2 года назад

I still have to get this done on our CRV and Civic. Sloppy mess for a while but well worth it in my opinion!!

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Absolutely. I think it's protected all our vehicles greatly. Many vehicles the age of ours are totally rusted out in the rocker panels, the wheel wells, and the tailgates. And here in PA, rust through any body panel makes it fail it's annual inspection. So for us, the oil undercoating is a very worthwhile investment. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@fishnsled 2 года назад

I'm a firm believer in oil spraying as well. My grandfather instilled that in me with his 10+ year old rust free car due to the oil spraying. Good video! 👍

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

That is awesome! Thanks for watching.

@photocontrol 10 месяцев назад

Good info on the undercoating. I was unaware bar & chain oil was used, just fluid film.

@PurpleCollarLife 10 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@haroldanderson2781 2 года назад

Thanks for the tips!

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Happy to help! Oil undercoating has worked well for us.

@WichhartAcres 2 года назад

Great info on the undercoating!

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@thomasbartlett3409 Год назад

Been spraying Bar and Chain oil for over 25 years up here in Northern Vermont. It does work great. I heat it up in a Presto Crock Pot with some bar wax for the high splash areas. For the inner box sections like rockers and doors, don't add any wax and spray it on hot...Be sure to apply it inside all enclosed areas...

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Thanks!

@jundialhaqiqa9907 Год назад

That F-350 looks damn good after 17 Pennsylvania winters.

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

I agree. It held up really well.

@thomasbartlett6771 2 года назад

Greetings from northern Vermont, rust capital of the world. Up here, they use the worst of the worst for melting snow and ice. Been using B&C oil for over 25 years and it works wonderfully. Cars rust from the inside out so soaking all the inner box sections, rockers, inner fenders, inner frames etc with oil saves the day. I will tell you that motor oil , ATF, grease etc also works well. I heat the oil in an electric crock pot and spray it on hot with a little wax on all outer exposed metal. Touch up every year and the vehicles will last!! Great video! Thanks for posting!

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks for watching! I'm glad to hear that others have had great success with oil undercoating also.

@thomasbartlett6771 2 года назад

@@PurpleCollarLife Oil undercoating is "Old School" up here. Some cut the B&C oil with diesel at 30% for spraying. I choose heating the oil...

@justincase9638 5 месяцев назад

You know - love hearing this - do a web search for car undercoating and all you see is snake oil and waste of money - people who let their cars turn into swiss cheese while saying you don't need undercoating. I used hard Ziebart for years - on a new car and it worked great for about 8 years... then starts to fail. But all I see out there are nay sayers.... Interesting!

@thomasbartlett3409 5 месяцев назад

@@justincase9638 Keeping water and Oxygen off the metal is the objective. Road deicers accelerate and fuel the corrosion process. I like B&C oil because it's cheap from Walmart and it works great. Best time to spray is in the spring and early summer. The warmer weather expands the metal and the oil "creeps" much better.

@TS-sx3rf 2 года назад

Your vehicle's are always maintained and kept in great condition.

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks!

@peterwojnar5781 Год назад

There is a Krown location in Zelienople. Great product and application process.

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Thanks! I'm going to look into that. I drive through Zelienople just about every day.

@davida.p.9911 2 года назад

Excellent advice! I've seen some vehicles so rusty, they literally split in half. They fell apart. And you could poke holes in the fenders with just a finger. Obviously a huge safety issue. I keep hoping they'll come up with an alternative to the salt. Here, we use brine (pickle juice) but I'm not sure if that's any better. Thanks for sharing, Chad! 🙂

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks for watching. I was surprised to read from another comment (and a few emails) that oil undercoating isn't permitted in some states/counties. Very interesting.

@smnkm4ehfer 9 месяцев назад

Brine is literally just heavily salted water

@BulldogTractor 2 года назад

Hum. You got me thinking 🤔 cheers from the Bulldog 🍻

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Hello! Thanks for watching.

@RCAFpolarexpress 2 года назад

Good evening Sir, I undercoat my vehicle twice a year. The first time is during late winter or early spring and I use only SEA 30 Oil to counteract or stop the salt effect on steel since oil will stop the corrosion effect and also since the salt as been building up under the car during all winter long. The second time will be at the end of the summer when it is the driest ( DRY and still hot ) I will use 1/3 synthetic grease and 2/3 SEA 30 oil for sealing the surface for the long winter and why during summer, the oil will penetrate further more than cold season and the grease will also be carried with oil and keep the grease wet and not going to dry out. Now, any types of soaps is corrosive at certain level and chainsaw bar oil does contains a lots of soaps,,, Yes all your vehicles look very nice and get these rusty spots fixed fast 🙏😉👌 In Canada we run un salty road for sure, but the good things salt work above or around - 14 c so under that temperature salt is frozen LOL !!! So they put mixed sand instead 😉👌 Great cameras under view shots and test too 👌😉💪👍 OUTSTANDING informative video Sir Cheers 👍😉👌🍻

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Dave - great idea to do the undercoating 2 times each year. That certainly makes sense to keep it protected. Thanks for explaining the grease/oil mix that you use. Do you have a certain spray gun that you use? I'd be interested in knowing your system. Thanks for sharing the info! Maybe you can make a video about how you do the undercoating!

@RCAFpolarexpress 2 года назад

@@PurpleCollarLife Good evening Sir, I use dedicated oil undercoating air spray gun that I bought and connect to my air compressor and for the doors or inside panel their is a plastic hose who come with that spay tank air gun. Now you know that I'm very generous with oil and grease LOL !!! Thank you very kindly for your OUTSTANDING video suggestion about showing how I do it ( using my Coleman stove to heat the oil before spraying ( using full face protective mask, under protective tarp etc ) So Ok, It is a deal Sir I will make one around yearly April ( It is a date !! ) Thank you again Cheers !

@taddmcmichael9061 Год назад

Bar and chain oil does not contain " a lot" of soaps. In fact it doesn't contain any soaps. Look up the SDS of any of them then tell me what chemical name that you see that represents soap. Almost all are one ingredient: naphthenic petroleum oil.

@justincase9638 5 месяцев назад

It sounds like a witch's brew!

@geoffreyclark2805 Год назад

A buddy of mine always saved his old engine oil after he did his oil changes and with his compressor and a spray gun shot the underneath every year, his vehicles always stayed for the most part rust free.

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Great idea!

@Pendragon501 6 месяцев назад

Project Farm did a very in depth test on undercoating sand the used motor oil actually did worse than doing nothing at all... Not kidding. you should look it up. Not sure why, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the tiny metal particles left in the oil. Who knows...

@barelystablefarm7151 2 года назад

In my area using oil for undercoating is illegal and they won't pass the vehicle inspection. You're basically limited to the lanolin based oil like fluid film, NH Oil Undercoating, Rust Check, etc. I like NH Oil because it "creeps" very well to hidden areas that don't see direct spray like inside frame rails, rocker, doors, etc. Nice video and thanks for sharing.

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing! I had no idea that it was illegal in some areas. And thanks for the tips on what CAN be used in those areas were Oil Undercoating is not permitted.

@workingshlub8861 Год назад

that ziebart stuff is awful...

@samb4678 2 года назад

Nice video!

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@nathanduckeorth806 4 месяца назад

I spray with oil also, live in Western PA and when we get a good rain I take a spin around town an blast thru every mud puddle😂

@PurpleCollarLife 4 месяца назад

Thanks for watching from western PA!

@richardreese5377 10 месяцев назад

I found fluid film is good for inside door and body panels. But fenders and areas of underbody that get a lot of wheel spray . The fluid film washes off in a few weeks. I experimented mixing oil and wax . Applied hot to wheel wells , frame and underside works fantastic. ! The wax is enough to keep everything in place. .it’s pliable to the touch. But doesn’t drip . Going on 4 years since using it and been fantastic.

@PurpleCollarLife 10 месяцев назад

Great point! I experienced the same thing with Fluid Film. It works pretty good in areas that don't get direct exposure to spray. The front bumper, back bumper, and frame along the wheel wells never stayed very coated in my experience.

@Aceman597 8 месяцев назад

I like oil undercoating in a can brand. Works for me.

@PurpleCollarLife 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! Is it more like a rubber coating (like bed liner) or an oil coating (like Fluid Film), or something else?

@captainotto 6 месяцев назад

Either FF or Oil will do the job. But I agree that when you chose one, you should stick with it. They're both just as effective in my experience. I use lanolin on mine because I've found that it's a bit more sticky and less flowy during the initial dry-out period and I've grown to enjoy the smell. But I tend to replace the undercoating yearly as I DIY it and part of my process is to fully clean the underbody in spring and do a proper inspection. I know its better for the vehicle to leave it on, but I find enough issues before they become major problems to make it well worth it for me.

@PurpleCollarLife 6 месяцев назад

Great comment! Thanks for watching.

@je1279 6 месяцев назад

I just used Surface Shield for undercoating my new F150. When using a lanolin based product, it is important that it is applied directly to bare/painted metal and not on top of any existing oil or wax coatings. If you've ever owned a GM truck, you know that their wax undercoating will chip and flake off on its own, and it is an awful product to re-apply when needed.

@PurpleCollarLife 6 месяцев назад

Thanks! I didn't know that about the GM trucks.

@stevengonyaw1617 Год назад

Road salt destroys everything including the pavement ! Cost vehicles owners huge money and the taxpayers huge money in pavement damage.

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

The salt certainly does a lot of damage!

@huggi3z08 8 месяцев назад

Im in salty Indiana and mix my own used oil grease mixture and spray with my weed sprayer for my Colorado ever fall

@PurpleCollarLife 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the info! What weight grease do you mix with the used oil?

@Pendragon501 6 месяцев назад

I've seen a side by side comparison for over 15 years now on the exact vehicle. One that has had oil done and the other that has had fluid film done. My one uncle's 2004 Honda Odyssey and my other uncle's 2004 Honda Odyssey. They got into this huge argument about it years ago when they both bought their vehicle. It's actually been very comical for the rest of us to witness this argument over the years. Well they both sold their vans a couple years ago (each with over 250K miles on them) and each went through upstate NY winters every year. This culminated in a professional steam pressure washing of the underside of both vehicles, and my father having a special tee-shirt made and a really cheesy trophy purchased online. Both were in surprisingly good shape after all the years, but there was still a clear winner. Hate to break it to you, but that winner was clearly fluid film. The one that was doing oil undercoating clearly had some rusting spots all throughout the underside and at the bottom of both front doors and at the bottom of the rear door. Nothing horrible , but clear rusting kind of like your doors and in some tighter spots underneath. The fluid film van looked significantly better and that one also had nearly 30k more miles on it. No rusting doors or anything. The only spots the looked questionable were a couple areas that it must have gotten blasted off by road spray or something. Same areas were even rustier on the other van. Anyway, there was a clear winner. They both bought new vehicles (F150 and Honda Pilot) and they're both doin fluid film now. I just wish one of them would have done surface shield so we could have had another comparison, but I doubt they'd both be around after another 15 year test, but who knows, they didn't use different products anyway. Cheers.

@PurpleCollarLife 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing this! That is truly a scientific test of one versus the other. Very interesting how it worked out. I feel like the Fluid Film washes away faster - but maybe it also penetrates better? It's definitely more expensive. I can get 4 vehicles oil undercoated for about the cost of getting one coated in Fluid Film. Thanks again for the great comment!

@thomasbartlett3409 Месяц назад

@@PurpleCollarLife My 1997 GMC K1500 4WD suburban has seen every winter in northern Vermont and is rock solid. I could get quality B&C oil for for under $10.00 a gallon. Use what you like ...

@thomasbartlett3409 Месяц назад

What's most important is how the rustproofing was applied. Anything is better than nothing .I see vehicles that have been treated with used motor that are rock solid after 25 salty winters.

@Deucealive75 2 года назад

Surprised the door is rusting even after being oil filled yearly. I use trans fluid yearly (October) in my doors. I chose fluid film initially but just switched to Surface Shield made by Blaster. I used the Blaster for my yearly touch up last October. Didn't really need a lot because the fluid film from a year earlier was still mostly there. The Blaster doesn't seem to wash off near the wheels like fluid film did. Very good product so far. One of the "undercoating experts" on youtube says oil doesn't work. He's wrong.

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting! I can see why the doors would rust after 7 years. It's all below the seal strip gasket at the bottom of the door. I think that probably some salt/grime gets into the holes where the gasket mounts, and even the oil can't protect it with our long winters and spray up from the tires. I'm wondering if on these key areas (wheel wells, door bottoms, tailgate), I should be treating them twice a year - once right in the middle of winter.

@Deucealive75 2 года назад

@@PurpleCollarLife Yeah that's a tough one. I guess you would have to be careful not to get product all over the gaskets. And that area typically isn't something that gets washed.

@jerrydrosell 10 месяцев назад

What is the name of the sticky oil you use to undercoat? A lot of people where I’ve use fluid film cut with linseed oil. Have you ever heard of this and I wonder what the advantages are of cutting it with linseed oil?

@PurpleCollarLife 10 месяцев назад

I'm not sure exactly what the brand of that undercoating that is used on our vehicles is. We have a professional apply it each fall. I can tell you that it's very similar in consistency to chainsaw bar and chain oil - sticky and thick. I have not heard of people cutting the fluid film - maybe it makes it easier to spray and apply?

@johnlastname2895 Год назад

Please explain how "oil" flakes off? Because I have never seen flakey oil lol

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

The oil applications over time create a layer on top of the metal. Dust, dirt, and road grime stick to the oil over time. That creates a layer almost like paint or a type of rubber coating. In some areas (like the frame beside the rear wheels shown on my Ranger in this video), water spray "washes" away that outer coating layer.

@PaulBarzizza Год назад

You are missing a lug nut on the driver side front wheel on the Expedition

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Thanks, Paul. It actually still has the nut - but it was missing the chrome cap over the nut. These Ford lug nuts are actually just a steel nut with a chrome tin cap over top. The caps fall off, or get water under them and expand/split. This year, I replaced every single lug nut with real, solid lug nuts. It wasn't cheap -but I was tired of the issues with those OEM lug nuts.

@j.f.outdoors8460 2 года назад

Who does your undercoating? I am looking for someone local.

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Send me an email and I'd be happy to let you know. Our email address is on the About page of our RU-vid channel.

@48Ballen Год назад

looks like you had some hard coating put on the vehicle. It would not be surprising to peel that back and find the metal is rusting beneath it. Check out the videos of Ziebart etc. treated cars and what a disaster that turned out to be. The oil/lanolin products need a repeat application each year, but they work to prevent rust by preventing the salty water from getting to the metal. They never crack but oblate with time.

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Thanks for sharing!

@gregbetts8057 2 года назад

rust on those non spray areas , grab a brush an treat them , good vid

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks, Greg. Almost right after I shot this video, I did just that. I cleaned up that area and treated it with some oil. But disappointingly, the oil was washed away after about a month. I think that must be an area that takes all the splashing/spraying of water when it rains. It always seems to clean off that exact same spot. I’m thinking about sanding it down, and hitting it with some fresh paint and THEN coating it again.

@lowspeed2000 Год назад

What oil do you use? used engine oil?

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

No, it’s a type of thicker sticky oil - similar to bar and chain oil. The guy who does the undercoating gets it by the barrel.

@Lanninglongarmmowing 2 года назад

What part of Pa are you in?

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Hello! We're from northwest PA. I see on your channel you have some videos in Slippery Rock. We're not too far from there. A bit north headed toward Lake Erie. Thanks for watching!

@Lanninglongarmmowing 2 года назад

@@PurpleCollarLife Oh ok. Yeah you are not far from me. Small world. You've got a cool channel.

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@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@Auxbeam 2 года назад

@@PurpleCollarLife Yep Great video you made!

@vincentnichols402 Год назад

A tipp from a Hardy New Englander every spring WAX your DOOR jambs I drive daily 92 Volvo wgn no Rust applied old motor oil & wax every year

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Thanks for the tips! I've never waxed my door jambs, but that totally makes sense to keep them good. Do you put the motor oil on the frame and inside the body panels?

@PatrickWagz 2 года назад

Great video, Chad. So, this is more of an oil/liquid, and it remains pretty much a liquid? And, it wouldn't be considered more of a rubberized undercoating? I saw a very interesting video that showed how the rubberized undercoating actually traps the moisture behind the coating and never allows the frame to dry out. If you have a minute, I would interested to hear your thoughts on that video. It is titled "Rubberized undercoating will destroy your car". And, just to be clear... that isn't what you are suggesting, correct?

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Great question. No, I'm not recommending that. Though I have seen some people use something like Line-X bed liner on the rust-prone areas of their vehicles. Sometimes this is after the rust has started, to try to keep the panels of the vehicle from rusting further. I've never tried doing that, but I have heard that it can help the vehicle from rusting as quickly. The stuff that the mechanic puts on our vehicles, I refer to as "bar and chain oil" because it's got that same consistency - tacky, thick. But it's not actually bar and chain oil. It's some type of undercoating. Over time, it does get that look like a rubberized coating - but it's actually just multiple layers of sticky oil. One big tip is to get the car done as quickly as possible, before any contaminants have the opportunity to get into the metal. When the F350 was new, I had it done within a few weeks of getting the truck. I wanted to get that coat of oil on the frame and all the body panels before there was a chance for other stuff to get in there and start rusting it away. Thanks for asking!

@soldano13lucky11 8 месяцев назад

Lps 3 or Brad Penn 20-50. The BP will leave a film. Use a cheap sprayer. Mix with kerosene. LPS 3 dries to a wax but is expensive. Ive heard guys using a toilet bowl ring melted with used oil too.

@PurpleCollarLife 6 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@mikesawyer1336 10 месяцев назад

I guess choose an undercoat and stick with it. The Fluid film will build up a crust as well over time... I used Ziebart for years. after some time that began to scare me. I see so many nay sayers... so I've switched to Fluid film. I don't think I will use oil - it's just too messy.

@PurpleCollarLife 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! I've found that the oil stays on the frame longer (Fluid Film seems to wash off over time). But you're right - whatever works best for each person. Around here, Fluid Film is quite a bit more expensive.

@SuperHogwart Год назад

video is biased based on your personal experience. Fluid film, when used by itself, has been proven to be very effective against oxidation. Perhaps if you had used fluid film annually from the beginning you may not have even had rust formed on your existing areas

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Good point. I switched from another oil undercoating to Fluid Film and that was a mistake. Maybe annual applications of the Fluid Film would have worked better. But it (Fluid Film) is also significantly more expensive than the other oil undercoating.

@zacharyjarvis6701 Год назад

might try just washing your truck

@PurpleCollarLife Год назад

Thanks @zachary jarvis - we do that pretty often. :)

@justincase9638 5 месяцев назад

What a God awful mess.... wow I guess that's the price to pay to keep rust away... I want a cleaner answer though.

@PurpleCollarLife 5 месяцев назад

I haven't found a cleaner way - but you're right that it's messy. For me, it's worth it to save the body and frame from rust. (until a better way is invented!)

@justincase9638 5 месяцев назад

@@PurpleCollarLife it is definitely worth saving against rust! I'm going down the path of Cosmoline - on my new vehicle - wish me luck - my fallback is fluid film or oil in future once the wax fails...

@MrArcher51 2 года назад

stupid video! of course you don't fluid film over oil daaaa. now if you started with fluid film you stick with it!

@PurpleCollarLife 2 года назад

Unfortunately, I've been undercoating vehicles for decades and didn't know that you shouldn't use Fluid Film over oil. Hopefully this video helps someone else who also didn't know that. If I had a new car with a clean frame and were choosing between oil and Fluid Film for the undercoating, I'd choose oil for sure. The Fluid Film gives a nice coating - but doesn't last nearly as long as the oil. It also doesn't seem to build up from application to application. And lastly, it's quite a bit more expensive. Thanks for watching and commenting. Sorry you thought this video was stupid. :)

@johnlastname2895 Год назад

Fluid film is oil..... Lanolin oil