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@VSO_Gun_Channel Год назад

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@diceman624 3 года назад

I would LOVE a video on fabrics under night vision, even cam patterns if you can manage it

@vulture8878 3 года назад

Agreed.

@jaredmbennett 3 года назад

And thermal.. How to block against it

@dandetande288 3 года назад

And thermal!!

@1800imawake 3 года назад

A friend of mine wanted me to ask you to test IR flock sheet, and add layer of mylar or maybe a survival blanket on inside to block thermal imaging. He said it was for informational purposes.

@Not_Sure_ 3 года назад

Yes

@WeLikeShooting 3 года назад

Dude, this is super valuable. Another yes for the fabric and clothing test.

@VSO_Gun_Channel 3 года назад

Thanks man!!!

@Kyrazlan 3 года назад

Agreed. Im curious to see how black velvet fabric does since it has such low light transmission at least in the visible spectrum. I think it typically beats out black 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0. I wanna say it has only about 0.4% light transmission. Here's the video link for reference. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xr1AiExSAnU.html

@VSO_Gun_Channel 3 года назад

Hope you enjoyed this video folks please consider sharing it to help with the shadow banning. PS, I have never asked why they are called Mud Water

@ChrisLoew 3 года назад

Would scuffing the paint once dry and making a more etched finish change the outcome?

@donnychandler1245 3 года назад

If you need help getting hunting equipment to test I have extras you can use as long as I get them back. They are hand me downs from my grandpa that he bought in the 80s and 90s that get left in a trunk til I use them and then go right back in.

@shanek6582 3 года назад

Didn’t they extend it to may 19 this year lol

@DannyD_88 3 года назад

you should try to get ahold of some CARC paint. its what we use on military vehicles for this purpose. that could be your "in-spec control" to compare readily available paints. just got done painting some helo blades today.

@1800imawake 3 года назад

A friend of mine wanted me to ask you to test IR flock sheet, and add layer of mylar or maybe a survival blanket on inside to block thermal imaging. He said it was for informational purposes.

@tdgreenbay 3 года назад

I'd be interested to see how the camouflage paint would do

@EngNerdGMN 3 года назад

Yeah, I'm wondering the same. I've got some matte camo. I assume it would do similar to the matte black.

@leeross3950 3 года назад

We knew about this in the military years ago. The plastic quick buckles and snaps on gear was like a bright beacon under NV and IR. We would spray paint them to subdue. When we.swapped over to the failed ACU/ UCP they even came with a list of suggested detergents to use so as not to destroy the UV " protection" and signature

@SuspiciousGanymede 3 года назад

I went to SDI and graduated with an associate's degree in firearms engineering. I definitely learned more than most but not enough to be a proficient gunsmith in an active shop. It's a good stepping stone but realize there are so many facets of firearm technology that you can't possibly be trained in all situations you may handle. They do have a fantastic career services branch after graduation but I live in a place that the nearest referred job was 3hrs away. It's great for the individual who wants to be self-sufficient in repairing/servicing personal firearms.

@drunkswithguns4124 3 года назад

would you say its worth it for a hobbyist? I know about the basics of reloading, have some machining experience, have drilled and/or tapped my own rifles, and have some experience building AKs, with riveting/etc. Do you think it would be worth it over just watching vids on youtube?

@SuspiciousGanymede 3 года назад

@@drunkswithguns4124 you would be the perfect demographic for the program. SDI will give you some basic/advanced skills and ideas to choose your own path in firearms. I make about $300/month fixing, repairing and modifying firearms as a side hustle. If you're in the top 10% of graduates you'll be referred to presitge firearm manufacturers. I got referred to SOLGW, Rainier Arms, Magpul and a few other up and coming companies but I was not willing to relocate during the social unrest last year. If you like AKs, trinidad college in colorado has a whole wing devoted to the platform.

@jeffl9534 3 года назад

@@SuspiciousGanymede approximately how much is the course?

@SCFIII 3 года назад

If you do any sort of fabric studies I want to see you compare solids to patterns, various patterns and various solids, country of origin (e.g. berry compliance), as well as no camouflage clothes under IR (e.g. jeans, carhartt pants, knock off camo, etc.)

@frigglebiscuit7484 3 года назад

heres a hint: they all turn bleach white unless they are made of a special material. hell, even my dark red guitar turns white, and i can see the wood grain under the paint.

@SCFIII 3 года назад

@@frigglebiscuit7484 Dude I think you've missed the entire point of what I asked, and how the IR spectrum works. Not everything turns bleach white. Even if you watched half of this video you should know that there are a lot of factors that go into IR reflectivity and how we perceive it vice visible light.

@jeffl9534 3 года назад

i wonder how burlap camo cover shows up?

@gunrelatedvids 3 года назад

There should be IR compliant ratings for uniforms or you can e-mail the maker about it

@VSO_Gun_Channel 3 года назад

Hi everyone. You spoke. Here is the video about clothing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-slRd3i0kCS8.html

@gmills5763 3 года назад

Krylon and Rustoleum and other camo paints vs. IR? Not high heat or any other stuff. Just a shoot-out between regularly available camo paints. Much obliged!

@icaza44 3 года назад

This channel is quickly becoming my favorite. He tests things I am too lazy to test myself and is full of useful information. Keep up the great work.

@darthhodges 3 года назад

I would be VERY interested in how different fabrics react, especially if different detergents or other chemical treatments make a significant difference on the same fabric.

@bradtidball5206 3 года назад

The only one I wish had been in there is the Rust-Oleum Camo line of paints. I typically use those for spraying guns, so I'd be interested to see how they perform in IR. One thing that I'm glad you mentioned is the anodized suppressor. Black anodizing glows gray-white in IR, food for thought considering most ARs are finished with black anodizing. Any paint is probably better than nothing.

@G19Jeeper 3 года назад

I also think it would be interesting to see fabric reactions cause ya know, alphabet boys. Especially some common ones you might encounter I.e. blue jeans, surplus camo fatigues, high end fabrics like Crye Precision and then hunting clothes?

@OGJonnyKamikaze 3 года назад

More creators should take lessons from this channel. Videos are always informative and entertaining...to me at least.

@strongestgamer2501 Год назад

A lot more people are interested in larping than information

@MakeReadySupply 3 года назад

I've tested materials with a black light. Seems like a good test when compared to gen 1/3 nv. In this case, oxyclean is not your friend.

@zoeyshoots 3 года назад

Atsko makes a great product

@smiffersmaffer 3 года назад

Would love to see the clothing examples with IR

@DracoOmnia 3 года назад

Definitely curious what happens after you bake ALL of them, assuming you might paint a can for... Reasons..

@Kycirion 3 года назад

Definitely another yes for fabrics and camo patterns. If possible do a couple with regular household UV brightening detergent and some washed with non-brightening detergent.

@jacksimmons3786 3 года назад

Very interesting. I have some cheap night vision monoculars that I definitely will check out my Night Hunting clothes and my kayak.

@robbie9118 3 года назад

I’m no scientist or anything, but the high heat black’s function is to withstand the heat generated by stoves, grills and such. Our NV equipment detects IR, which is a form of heat (thus IR Grills). So it makes sense to me that the high heat paint is designed to reflect heat/IR. Might be something to keep in mind when marking a route visible to NVGs. IR tape sticks out when someone has seen it before, so it’s easy to find in daylight, but a shot of black paint wouldn’t stand out in urban or wooded environment. Of course I mention this for finding my hunting stand in the dark.

@MrPinedeezal81 Год назад

Yes! Please do a video on clothing and night vision. And also help with finding a good detergent that actually doesn't have any optical brighteners

@Junkyardnedreck 3 года назад

Yes, I’d love to know what clothes hide the best in NV

@garyb351 3 года назад

Will be waiting for the cloth video for sure, so nice to come away from a video with a little added knowledge instead of just "wow, he shot some stuff!"

@thedudemain117 3 года назад

I agree with a lot of people here, some fabric and camo pattern testing would be awesome. Even the same pattern on different fabrics and materials. Its definitely be interesting. And of course, the camo Krylon paint we all use would be cool to see.

@phil5569 Год назад

Interesting stuff! Nowadays, people definitely need to think more about what they look like under night vision surveillance. we need to be camouflage during the day, AND camouflage at night!

@DSjockey 3 года назад

This was very interesting and I was surprised by the results, I would like to see a test using some of the camouflage color spray paints out there and another vote for fabrics (hint love to see blue jeans included)

@snooze6.597 Год назад

This was one of the most valuable videos I’ve seen. Great work!

@benjaminvanotteson4299 3 года назад

I think a cool follow up/expansion to this would be a grid with different materials/primers per column and paints per row.

@VSO_Gun_Channel 3 года назад

Pass the video around and if it gets popular then I’ll reup.

@jimbo3934 3 года назад

Yes do clothing. I've seen military pants that claim to absorb IR

@50StichesSteel 3 года назад

More important then Night Vision, I'd love to see how to defeat a new generation thermal..Those cameras are getting so damn good now that it looks almost as clear as daylight footage.

@beltfedTODDRULZ 3 года назад

Thermal can't see through glass, what about cardboard sheild

@50StichesSteel 3 года назад

@@beltfedTODDRULZ new thermals have gotten much better at seeing through glass

@beltfedTODDRULZ 3 года назад

Good to know👍

@yg-nq1qh 3 года назад

...no its not

@williamlane2126 2 года назад

Great material and presentation as always. So appreciate the mention of heat cycles, paints react differently once fully cured. It can appear dry but will still emit gasses until completely free of solvent.

@MM-kv8ly 3 года назад

Cerakoted vs spray paint vs anodized next? Be interesting to see real objects, like guns that have difference surfaces. Spray paint covers all so might have a slight edge.

@Mr3Xpensive 3 года назад

I'd like to see a comparison of clothing under night vision

@wookiewillie5563 3 года назад

Good stuff, +1 for fabric and also other paints marketed as "camouflage"

@kylekuehne5976 3 года назад

11:18 check your gas tube, might have a leaky pipe 😂 Great video man, glad I stumbled across you :)

@newmexicojoe5443 3 года назад

I found an old M715 military Jeep and put a 350 chevy in it. Awesome truck, but knew it needed the right paint. As it was always driven through brush, the paint needed to hold up well, and easy to touch up. I used rustoleum, quart cans, thinned and sprayed. I mixed brown, black, and dark green for the color I wanted, which of course was close to Viet Nam era military, but darker. The truck would absolutely disappear at night through the naked eye. You should do a comparison like this with vehicles, camoed, and even bed liner painted trucks. Show us how they look in ir.

@papaswoodshop4873 3 года назад

Eventually I will get night vision. I know absolutely nothing about it. Thank you for the good information.

@DB-yj3qc 3 года назад

Back when I was in light infantry I kept a few sets of BDU's totally away from regular fabric detergents so they wouldn't glow from UV brightener additives. As you figured out them products will defeat the camo in hunting clothes. Many times I had to show soldiers that, with NVD in the field. Some (most) higher rank wouldn't listen, even though it was put on the label of military gear. They was more interested in "looking good" than being good at the job.

@randr10 Месяц назад

You can usually get that cheapo paint in flat black as well. I'd be interested to see if that does the same, better or worse than the gloss black. One of the things I find with the cheap paint is that even the gloss isn't very glossy, which I think may be why it performed decently. The flat black might do even better.

@UndeterminedScript Год назад

Personally (slowly) working on a paint project inspired by Ripperkon in 2 videos on that channel. The key is: more chalk. Great video, appreciate the work. Curious about the hhv update, but I know that can't be elaborated

@tomzweifel 3 года назад

Mix common zinc oxide primer with walnut shells and apply with a roller. You can buy large bags of walnut shells from Grainger, Harbor Freight, etc. You'll be impressed with what that does for you.

@Monster11B 3 года назад

Interesting. Fabrics and the detergent would be interesting. Back to paint, there is other types that could be done. Such as alumahyde from brownells.

@jacksin3323 3 года назад

That's wild. I use the shit outta the high heat, and I don't always bake it on, but it DEFINITLY looks and resists differently after baking

@georgesmith9025 3 года назад

This is super helpful! It will definitely change how I paint my stuff. I’m wondering if using the chalk paint alternating with the better choices would be a more effective camouflage. This way it wouldn’t be completely flat or completely shiny. What do you think?

@baccable 3 года назад

Fascinating, would not have guessed the cheap stuff would have done well.

@actionjksn 3 года назад

A dark flat grey would probably perform best overall, like maybe charcoal or something. Dark flat green would probably be a good option too.

@donaldadams2939 3 года назад

Great Video. I have a great idea for your next video. I would like to see with the night vision, people kitted out in the wilderness settings and in a urban setting to see how the camouflage and the pouches and everything blend into the environment or not. Basically a gear test. Another thing, and I know they're expensive but have you done videos using thermal imaging? Thanks for putting out these kind of videos. Don 😎🇺🇸

@twombley96 3 года назад

I want to see more of this. A LOT more of this. And would also like you to throw a Sionyx Aurora into the mix

@johnlew5972 6 месяцев назад

I would LOVE a video on fabrics under night vision. Thank you

@harbinger8208 3 года назад

I would like to see about can covers and how they play with night vision.

@johns9888 3 года назад

Clothing yes, also small camo sniper nets/Vails . Camo paints that we typically use in the field from Walmart would be great ! Keep up the good videos ☺️

@deadtorights576 3 года назад

Dude not only is this vid hella great, I think I speak for many others when I say: DEFINITELY do a vid showing different fabrics and/or camos!!

@helidude3502 3 года назад

Good to note that in a pinch, the cheapest stuff performed well. (Next, see no black paint in stock anywhere)

@Pro-Gunn1952 3 года назад

Black Primer, Gray Primer and Tan Primer will always be your best choice due to light refraction

@johnwyatt27 3 года назад

Went out with some friends one night on a little hike, We had nods i was wearing the surplus multicam buddy of mine said under nods I was lighting up like a Christmas tree. Just for the hell of it I tried the material under a black light had a niceness bright neon glow to it but other camo like the woodland camp didn't an didn't have hardly any change in colors under nods.. These videos are interesting never seen anyone experiment like your doing. pretty Interesting

@182511419139208 3 года назад

Krylon Fusion can be used to paint fabric too so that matte black can be used on both a gun and outfit.

@drunkswithguns4124 3 года назад

I for one would love to see a fabrics test.

@sammyrizzi1708 3 года назад

I love then contents on this channel!!! Much love from Montreal Canada

@tylerschmotzer 3 года назад

Tbh I would have preferred you do fabric first, so I would love to see it! Also another idea would be to just take stock firearms out and see how the light reflects off of their finishes. Keep up the good work man!

@deejayimm 3 года назад

I don't know how anybody can afford to spend almost $5,000 on a night vision monocular nowadays. It's amazing that in all this time, a 25 year old optic is still that expensive, and still considered the best. I guess when the government contract is already in the hands of one company, it doesn't exactly allow for many upstarts. No real competition equals high price. Most of the people I've seen on RU-vid say pretty much everything else is junk.

@MuzzleFrontLLC 3 года назад

Comprehensive, like every other video I've seen with you. Well fucking done.

@robertchalk8884 3 года назад

Definitely want to see the fabric version of this video

@PilgrimXXII 3 года назад

This is a good one! I think that doing a rattlecan paint job on a rifle with a krylon matte of any "tactical" colour as well as setting up to show us various fabrics' reflectivity with specific (read common) treatments would be awesome.

@flight3439 3 года назад

Absolutely yes for the fabric video

@mozonejr3103 3 года назад

I enjoyed your vid as always. Asko Snowseal brand had a product a long time ago to combat uv. Lots of good info online about uv...

@larryskylar3394 3 года назад

Krylon Matte Black, cool. Same thing I used on my trailer as part of the camo pattern. Thanks!

@youthv2762 3 года назад

Interested in the clothing v IR. Overall, good vid. Beard is looking healthy, your hand still looks fkd. Astroglide, that is all

@abelleu7551 3 года назад

Definitely would be interesting to see how the high heat would look after baking. Another finish that could be interesting to see would be something like brownells’ alumahyde or other gun spray on finish.

@steveinthewest 3 года назад

1st vid of yours i have seen. Liked & Subbed. Thanks for the effort. Well done.

@benk.7829 3 года назад

Fabric video would be great. I was thinking of painting my gun to so this was really cool to see.

@Nathan-jh1ho 3 года назад

Clothing dyes many appear the same under visible light but totally different under NIR. Most military cloths use dye that still works under NIR, though some aren't. Most civilian cloths, including Realtree type camo, appear all white under NIR. Only black would normally look dark.

@1.forestrunner 3 года назад

I understand that your observation was just in regard to the sample color and how it shines back the colors you didn't like blended in very well with the background. Like the gravel or concrete surface. Please do the fabric, overall very interesting results!

@chrisc.3472 3 года назад

Krylon and Rust-oleum both have a camo line of paint. Can you test those? I know Walmart carries at least one of those brands.

@troydodson5366 3 года назад

Starch in our clothes will reflect alot of light.

@jackburton7959 3 года назад

Yes, please, on the fabrics video.

@stevesanders4427 3 года назад

yes definitely we 'd like a video about clothing (fabric, color, texture) reflectivity through night vis

@shidoin5398 3 года назад

Vanta black is the blackest paint which you can't purchase. Runner up is black 3.0 try that

@stephensumpter7514 3 года назад

just don't go out in the sun with it....

@wesleyffolkes5124 3 года назад

I would love a dedicated vid on fabrics! BTW this was a genius idea!

@jabr991 3 года назад

Yes on fabric and clothing

@ImNoBSING 3 года назад

It does not help much to wash clothes without enchancers because there are always residues in the washing machine. So handwash is practically required.

@pulldeauxduck2480 3 года назад

We must become ungovernable buy all the paint we can!!!

@toyotek2 3 года назад

That was cool.. You should try the krylon camo paint.

@eltonwhite8490 2 года назад

ANY flat surface is going to reflect light to some degree the way to defeat that reflection is to introduce multiple non repeating angles to diffuse the reflected light, I know nobody is going to take their Daniel Defense prized AR and work it over with a bastard file but it is what it is flat surfaces are going to reflect light period no matter what kind of rattle can you hose it down with !

@largelarry2126 3 года назад

Years ago I did a test with several friends on camo clothing after dark. Long story short if any of them had been washed over and over no matter how nice they looked it was like having white T-shirt on. The small fuzz all over the clothing seemed to glow. Thanks for the test and info.

@frost8077 Год назад

I came here after one video said how terrible multicam black is, but it was the best option for my area. I'm going to paint my plate carrier with a light coat of sage green.

@claytonjohnston25 10 месяцев назад

You should actually test the camo lines from Krylon and Rustoleum. Ran, OD, Brown, and Flat black.

@summereastcape1 3 года назад

I think the fabric video would be interesting. Keep up the great videos.

@viewatyourownrisk 3 года назад

I'd be curious to see if it'd be possible to have "IR Camo". Some paint or clothe that gives a similar IR signature to the anticipated operating environment so that when a person or thing is viewed under NODs that they would blend in.

@ninja5672 3 года назад

I wish you would have grabbed the Krylon "Camo" paint at Lowes. Seems good for visible light.

@XilverWithaXi 3 года назад

I would personally love to see a more in-depth review of various material reactivities. Especially with it cropping up more & more, it's something the defense-oriented public needs to keep up with.

@00ttvr6 3 года назад

MORE NV TESTS!! 🙏🙏 Powder coat Anodize PVD Clothing Different camo

@lentower6931 Год назад

Thanks for doing this video. I would like to see one on fabrics also.

@Sam_Holladay 3 года назад

See if you can find the camo paint at Lowe’s or Home Depot. That could make a difference too.

@Flemdragon 3 года назад

My wife - why are you watching paint videos? Me - insert joker meme Ima definitely need the link to the super cheap stuff. Lol

@RayNaraine 2 года назад

Good overview. Currently looking at purchasing an NVG.

@johnandrewserranogarcia7223 3 года назад

I think it would have been a better test if the background behind the painted object was the same color as the painted object that way the test would have been about which paint reflects more light and not which paint is more noticable in a white background.

@ronstryker 3 года назад

I was hoping someone who had nightvision would do a clothing video. I know that different manufacturers use different kinds of dyes in their fabric as well as different blends of material (cotton, nylon, & polyester), as well as the weave of the fabric (twill, regular, and rip-stop). I know of three manufacturers that produce BDU's that are popular to civilians, airsofters, and freedom minded persons; Tru-Spec, Propper, and Rothco. If you can get your hands on a set of BDU's in 100% cotton, 50/50 cotton-poly blend, 60/40 cotton-poly blend, in rip-stop, twill, and regular weave. Once you got the basic trial items then try out different laundry detergents on these items since you had that issue (which is new to me) of the laundry soap that made your clothes glow under IR light and see which laundry detergents to avoid.

@NessNik 3 года назад

yes , Different fabrics & same fabric different detergents for IR signature

@verysmallcats1374 Год назад

Very interesting results. I personally don't like the super dark black colors in my environment under NV since it's easy to pick out versus other colors. I live in an area where lighter colors like blueish greens and browns work best - there are no natural deep blacks here. Therefore, something matte and brighter under IR like the rust oleum high heat would be more suited to my environment. I don't believe there is one perfect paint; it's deeper than that. Performance is relative.