Best Part in Metal Gear Solid Series -- Snake about Big Boss -- Torture Room Dialogs 

+Common Sense not just a piece.... It's a milestone. And for me, it proves that video games are an art that can deliver much more plot than - any film (because it lasts longer) - or a book (in a written story, you can't see the memes or any body language)

@@Leon_der_Luftige The m e m e s .

Absolutely. It was my favorite game growing up.👍

Well said.

Oh, what depth? It's caricature.

+IcedEarth426 thats one way to one up somone

+IcedEarth426 But now we know it wasnt the real big boss he killed but his phantom :)

DuskCalibur but he kind of killed them both, up until Big Boss's body was recovered by the Patriots i beleive he was dead until they revived him and put him into a NanoMachine induced coma

+DuskCalibur or maybe you could have used a spoiler alert for people who haven't played the game yet you idiot !

Chris Tsirigotis Dont read the comments and go fuck yourself :)

iBluairJgR it was. I really feel I can relate now due to our times

It still is to some extent

still is still in a dream snake eater

This game is VERY relevant theme wise its frightening but i commend Kojima as a writer. :)

WAY ahead.

David did good for somebody with a cold! Yes, he had a cold during the recording sessions for Metal Gear Solid.

It's his maiden flight into video game history

Jackson the cold made it better. It make his voice rougher naturally so it didnt sound like he was putting it on

@GloriousTapeworm Same here, I'm curious. I haven't heard about that either.

Probably the most legit fictional video game nigga of all time. Incredible story through and through.

+Tychus besides she had put FOXDIE virus in Snake's organism

+Tychus How do you tell someone that though? "You're a clone and your DNA was altered to cause you to age rapidly"

Evnyofdeath she didn't want to tell him

+Tychus fck her becuz of her solid snake die quicker . I'm glad she paid for wat she did in the end

jonh 886 She did NOT make Snake die faster. She is not the cause of his rapid aging, and the mutated foxdie didn't kill him so she had no hand in his death.

Yup

yup

yup

Yup

+Der dasMann Uyp (sorry for my bad English)

Matty Paul Its easy to forget what a sin is in the middle of a battlefield.

Matty Paul Snake: Yup. Coronel: Did you saved Meryl? Snake: Yup. Otacon: Could you please stop saying "yup" Snake: Yup.

Matty Paul why what happened? if it involves spoilers dont tell me lol, im currently on a mission to play all metal gear solid games to prepare for phantom pain so i know the lore, and im currently halfway through mgs 3 snake eater just beaten the fury :P

ShinDharta big boss Yup.

MrAmmo30 Well i was mostly referring to the events of MGS1. Just this scene alone where Colonel had to keep secrets from Snake and pretty much blackmail him to do this mission on Shadow Moses in the first place. Obviously, Snake hates that, but still considers Campbell a friend from their history.

This comment rules. ;)

Lmfao

Ah shiiiiiit

Who we talking? Solidus?

@@GenocidalSquid Yes

+realitywarper93 ...... 9/11

He mean the MGS2 and La li lu le lo

It has been relevant everytime there has been war, which is everytime in history.(after the constitution)

Yup

Trump says hi.

Funny how snake response to his fathers dead is just Yup lol

That's not because he's joking or trying to be funny or anything. People do this all the time when they're talking about something that weights heavily on them.

Str8Murder You prefer a overly serious game with characters that have little to no personality, aka metal gear solid V?

Philippe l yup

The silly jokes in MGS1 are incredibly necessary though. Despite the amazing writing MGS1 still holds up to, the one liners and setpieces break it up in a very refreshing way, because unfortunately, like in MGS4 and MGS5, if you have almost a solid 3 hours of serious writing it gets grinding and annoying, so having some humor break it up is a good way to keep your audience engaged.

Damn that's a good catch!

tbh... I'd say the Legacy of Kain games have always beaten it slightly.

spot on man

Nah man, House of the Dead 2 was the best.

@@CDbiggen lmao nah, Sonic Adventure takes the cake

@@CDbiggen Friends of the AMS... Behold! Your new emperor!

zero had its part in that too

You completely missunderstood big boss and you were fooled by the Patriots just like Solid Snake. Big Boss was fighting Zero/The Patriots who want to rule over the World. He isnt a maniac who kills innocent people for fun. People are always saying Big Boss is evil and its just not right. He is a flawed Hero.

Zero and Big Boss both walked the path lined with good intentions straight to hell. They both had their own interpretations of The Boss' will, but in the end both of their visions became so twisted that they nearly tore the world apart.

If you haven't realized after all this time she was set up to become the enemy and start that war basically if I'm thinking of the right one and he was supposed to kill her because she was a scapegoat and he had to do that on behalf of her and the government, so it wasn't really his fault

Actually for big boss it would be keeping his burned body alive while his kids fight each other

+el chag the cigar burnt him eventually while taking tequila shots outta some sexy chick in Costa Rica with a lit cigar in his mouth lol

+Fahad S.S, Medic Boss is called Venom Snake

+Firemarioflower A: his methods might be repulsive to others yet, he has a point. The means justifies the end. B: he DID NOT kill innocent people, Jack's parents were an accident and he didn't want to nuke Manhattan just have the nuke explode in the atmosphere to develop electronic pulse that takes down WallSt the Patriot's main finance machine. C: Solidus will was achieved in MGS4 despite Solid not believing in it. People were eventually free from the system and if it wasn't for Ocelot's betrayal to Solidus, he would've achieved it during MGS2 but hey, then you wouldn't get a sequel. Finally, screw Raiden and his lame ass role in the entire series. Solidus died for civil rights, liberties, opportunities! Now that's why he is a true Patriot to me.

Fahad S.S He still was in command of Dead Cell, who slaughtered the public (mainly Vamp, but also Fortune and Bomberman) because they didnt believe them. Solidus still tried to kill Jack, who's a hero. And he's an enemy of Solid Snake too. Ocelot didnt betray anyone since it was orchestrated from the start. It's not Raidens fault. He's had a terrible youth, go easy on him. Sure, he was a Patriot, who fought the patriots. How does that make sense? He CLAIMED to fight for that, not really did it otherwise they hadnt built a stupid oil rig and convert it into a sort of platform, plus several Metal Gears in order to destroy the world. Do you really think he only created those Rays to fight Raiden and Snake? NO! One of the hostages was killed after Raiden and Snake took care of the C4, and Solidus was still in control at that moment. Besides, he instigated Shadow Moses.

markosgraveyard Thus reasoning for Grey Fox's body exploding in MG2 is found....

Badasses

Iirc it happens in the first Metal Gear game. Maybe the second, I guess. I never played it

I read your comment at the same time he said it lol

that alone makes me wish they made a 3D version of those first two games. i would play the shit out of them

+Randomtask68 Naomi: A minefield? Snake: Well actually it was more of a room with mines planted near the walls but minefield sounds cooler.

+Eric Rhodes and the best part? fox could walk on them with no consequence!

Randomtask68 He was always so cool and precise...

In the same vein, it's pretty impressive that Campbell just assumes that Snake will be able to break out of the cell, even though he's been tortured and unarmed...

and only you could fuck up that comment so badly

Brother!

When I was 12, I was given a psx... first games were FFVII and MGS, now music is very important to me in games, with those as my first game-XP... MGS is a timeless masterpiece, its music ear-caressing...

+La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo Who are the patriots?

+FoxTheLegend big boss, zero, paramedic, EVA can't remember the other founders

Joe Pears it wasn't a question but a quote, his nick name is La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo aka the patriots

+ToadProductionINC Better translation and localization. Too bad Jeremy Blaustein who translated MGS1 got the boot and Kojima demanded more literal translations for western audiences hence why the dialogue in the others is sometimes awkward and stilted.

Scott Perry Ah, that's really interesting. Shame Kojima didn't have an editor around then.

Matthew Williams Don't get me started on how bad MGS5's plot is. Frankly, I think he deserved the boot from Konami given that he had 5 years, a team of 200 employees and a huge budget and the game is still incomplete.

Scott Perry I've been thinking this actually. Most people have been very black and white about Konami vs Hideo, when five years and an insane budget has actually resulted in a game pretty muddled in a lot of places. Kojima's made far better trailers than a real story all the while making ridiculous claims about what his game. He basically cut the whole game into his trailers :(

Matthew Williams Keep in mind, MGS5 had a whole chapter cut from the final release. Skullfaces death in Kojima's words was actually early in the game and then I assume the rest would've been about Venom's fall from grace. Kojimadrones never cease to amaze me with how much mental hoops they create to justify hack writing and bad direction, especially for MGS5. The way the scenes were directed might be subjective but knowing some fans actually think the writing and dialogue is anywhere half-decent is straight up delusional. It's frankly embarrassing when some people hold MGS as the bastion of storytelling. It's sad to say but MGR:R has a more satisfying story then MGS5 complete with a Metal Gear fight followed by a one-on-one fight, a series staple that MGS5 completely forgot about.

+Tloc222 True. Fantastic game but poor MGS.

+Tloc222 im sorry if you don't know how to play mgsv, there is PLENTY of immersive moments like this one, well i guess people rather have it shoved in their faces then having the need to look for them.

+Paulo H Moments instead of full immersion in story - thats Phantom Pain. And we can miss them all coz we have to farm "gold" and soldiers for more guns. Thats so MGS... Oh, I forgot about Clash of FOB's.

Marcin Szwaja lol keep disliking the game, you want my pity or somenthing?

+Paulo H game is pretty good but there wasn't any ending to the game, didn't get the closure and all...(upto 30-31, the game was doing good but then all of sudden an abrupt ending) Konami cut content, there was definitely a chapter 3 and somewhere I heard the game had 5 chapters and we only got to play one... sad really but one of the greatest gameplay mechanics of this time regardless of the storyline

+Isamu Lucas "No. That's not true! That's impossible!"

+Isamu Lucas LMAO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT

+Christopher Dempsey "Search your feelings. You know it to be true!"

Chimerism101 NOOOO!!! NOOOO!!!

+micoromico Well, he was portraying Old Snake in MGS4, so I can understand the rasp thing.

The thing is, by MGS2 he was already overdoing the voice. Don't get me wrong, I still like his portrayal of the character, just that sometimes it gets too comical in a way. Kinda like what happened to Al Pacino's voice by the time he did Scent of a Woman in 92, with all that yelling, but that's what happens when you get older, your voice changes if you force it too much.

Not to mention the fact that he smokes like a chimney.

It wasn't so bad in MGS2, but by Snake Eater...yeah. For what it's worth, I think it was fine in MGS4 and Peace Walker. In the latter case, a lot of people feel like it doesn't make sense for Big Boss to sound like Old Snake when he was still relatively young, but I don't know. I felt like it suited the character at that point in his life. If David ever takes the role back, though, I'd want him to return to this kind of portrayal./

Agreed. Imo MGS1 had best voice acting.

I know

............

Especially when you think of the manner in which Solid Snake Kills Big Boss in Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake by burning Him alive with a Cigarette Lighter and a can of Spray Paint, although this is Retconned in MGS4, when it is revealed that Big Boss survived the ordeal

damn right son

so sad that most people I know doesn't know anything about this masterpiece

yes cuz hideo is a hack, he did MGS which is a masterpiece but his ego got so inflated from that game that he screwed up all the other games stories, the only one i like besides from this one is 4, but still has a lot of pullass stuff.

@@brunomoreno3666 So because you’re too dumb to follow a multi-game plot. Good to know.

To bad she only appeared in this version, and all her future appearances followed her Twin Snakes version with the American Accent.

Arthus850 It's almost like Kojima, in an effort to continually improve the series, keeps making it slightly worse in those ways.. Mei Ling's accent removed as well, David Hayter removed.. etc

Deathbrewer To be fair, Big Boss in MGS 4 sounded nothing like David Hayter, so I can get passed him having a different voice. In fact, I think I prefer it, since when he was voiced by David Hayter, all I saw was Solid Snake in a different setting, but when he was voiced by Keifer Sutherland, I saw a different character all together, which Big Boss is supposed to be. Plus, Accent or not, Mei Ling is still adorable.

Arthus850 Only problem I have with it is Hayter being Naked Snake/Big Boss in MGS3 and Peacewalker already. I don't see what Old Snake in MGS4 has to do with anything except Hayter destroying his voice, as he put it, trying to make Solid Snake sound as old and pained as possible lol. But I get what you're saying, I don't really have a problem with Keifer voicing Big Boss now that he's really changing into the damaged, cynical and conflicted character who ends up a villian. Japan still has the same voice actor they've always had though, like if Hayter had stayed on for English regions. Just saying.

Deathbrewer I'm not talking about Old Snake. I'm talking about Big Boss's appearance in MGS4 where he was voiced by Richard Doyle. Sorry for the spoiler if you haven't played MGS4, or at the very least, reached that part yet.

You know as far as 90's go, Video Games are a media form where I fell the 2000's and the 2010's lived up and surpassed it, whereas movies, cartoons, and music all continue to fall short.

+NightIMarEx1 Agreed.it's because japan is no longer making good games only with few exception though.For me pandering towards otaku is slowly killing gaming industry in japan.The West also is not doing any better.they have technical edge but there are still producing same old dumb down casual bs since the success of fps games in last gen

Because I'm batman.

+NightIMarEx1 I like turtles

TheKestevon Ok hipster

she learned a lot about the guy who killed her brother during this incident

fuck you then don't play Kojima's games you fuck

+Mr. Popo troll but peace walker had tapes so did gz, nobody complained

+TheRabbitFear and yet peacewalker still had a great amount of cutscenes that moved the stories plot and codec calls at the end of missions pretty much every mission instead of kaz just giving orders with no response.... Everyone complained about the paz and Chico cassette tapes in ground zeroesground zeroes would of been a complete game if they made those tapes into cutscenes. amd added them to the beginning of the mission from showing amanda tell snake that Chico is not with her to kaz giving snake the debriefing..

People complained about the codec in MGS2 yet want it back in MGSV after saying nothing about the tapes in GZ and PW, it's just a pathetic circlejerk from an original idiot/troll

+Mr. Popo LOL

Why did you quote snake from this game twice then do a non sequitur and quote MGS4 Raiden

​@@hylianroCause those are his favorites.

+ArtezzGaming it's the first video game implementing cinematic presentation.

Etal gear is one of the true reasons I started playing video games

you forgot Solid

@@emadwolf10 I mean it's inclusive to the games that don't have solid in the title, like the MSX games

Same here. Sniper Wolf's death made my eyes well up. One hell of a masterpiece indeed. Pure art.

Typically people are more interested in others whom they cannot relate to

+Neco The Sergal Chef The only problem with Keifer's voice is that he can't express sorrow, only rage.

solesurvivor5 Solid Snake never really expressed. No 'Snake' has ever expressed - though, you didn't say 'express' WHAT, like, Emotions? Feelings? If so, none have, so it wouldn't matter. They all are, quite socially awkward when it comes to expressing anything that doesn't involve the mission and intel. That being said, Keifer is fine with Rage, because Venom is mostly about rage.

+Neco The Sergal Chef Metal Gear Solid 2 was good as well, considering the direction they were going for. They wanted an aged snake...little rasp Metal Gear Solid 3 - voice direction was probably to sound like snake, but set him apart from solid by gruffing it up Metal Gear Solid 4 - Aged and brittle sounding snake. I get it, but kind of annoying to listen to. Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker - Set it apart from Solid, but try to make him sound ten years older. That's what I think happened when it came to voice direction

+Neco The Sergal Chef I completely agree, it was perfect here. That's why I'm hoping for maybe a remake of the original Metal Gears 1 and 2, need more young Solid Snake

+Guilherme A. Modesti I thought the Snake voice he did in MGS3 was pretty solid, what really bothered me though were Hayter's deliveries in Peacewalker, that shit was WAY over the top in my opinion, he sounded like he'd gargled acid before he went into the booth. I thought it was kinda pointless to change the voice actor considering that "Big Boss" doesn't even say anything in the entire fucking entirety of MGSV, there's no codec or any of that shit that defined MG in my opinion, I was completely disconnected from the character and the world. Most of the time I played as one of my mercs because fuck it.

Could not agree with you anymore all the voice actors could not be more perfect for each character especially Gray Fox in this one his voice really deserves its own ovation especially his final scene!!

"yup"

Also foxdie

EDGY NECK BEARD big boss himself admitted that he believed Solid Snake could have done things Better he was on his place

+Tommy Cruz I think exact like you

+Tommy Cruz There is more character development in this 8 minute 44 second video than the overwhelming majority of Phantom Pain.

+B-Eazy Phantom Pain is supposed to be a final piece of the puzzle of the metal gear solid series. Instead kojima vent overbudget and got himself fired before he could finish the story. But still phantom pain tells us "the fans of bigboss" of the reasons of his wickedness in MG, MGS2 and MGS1. MGS PP is more build around after the events of peace walker. If you were a fan of that, definately you will love this.

Chew JeeKian In MGS1, Big Boss was a mythical legend/psychotic madman who was so highly valued terrorists wanted the remains of his long dead body to enhance their genetically modified army. In MGSV, Big Boss is a coward who couldn't face the music for creating a nuclear powered mercenary company and attempting to lie to the United Nations about it. So he brainwashed one of his loyal medics, who just so happened to have a dismembered arm, brain damage, and a body full of shrapnel and tooth remains, into getting FULL BODY plastic surgery to take his place and deal with all his personal problems, including dealing with his psychotic son who is trying to kill him for being a deadbeat father and passing him inferior genes, killing the other psycho who sent an army to bomb his company, and dealing with that greedy, self serving jackass of a best friend "Miller". Meanwhile, the "real" big boss is lamping it up on some tropical island somewhere with some half naked blondie named "eva", reminiscing about the good ole days. Occasionally taking time to send the medic tapes, patronizing him into thinking he's "really" big boss and how he should be proud of himself. All while he's plotting to send his other bad ass kid in to kill him so he can eventually reclaim his name and all the fame that dumb ass medic built up for him. I'd say MGS1 had FAR better writing than that mess phantom pain.

+B-Eazy I did mention 'fan of peace walker' not MGS 1

@Dr. Complex Cigar**

@@ethanstrohm5841 Two main characters from Code Geass, it's a very good anime

And the voice acting...well the rawness and emotion at least

SplashyPlays Since Kojima wanted an open-world remake of MGS1, some of the original music needs to be in it.

Totally agree, the only reason the ps1 trumps gamecubes version. Saying that I love both !

SplashyPlays or dialogues

+Gurēbusu yes, I remember playing peace walker and being able to preform the leap of faith and hide in a pile of haystack At the time i thought it was only an easter egg but now it all makes sense xD

+Gurēbusu that i didn't know since i never finished MGS4 (I dont won a ps3) even though i played all the other games

+Gurēbusu I have heard is more a watch then play game xD

The gray Fox boss battle should be similar to Solid Snake vs Liquid final boss fights in MGS1 and MGS4 in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

+Naked Snake But not to a good story

Mgs3 should have been the final game I think

Big Boss FTW

twin snakes... but the original is better i mean

Smorsh oh okay that would be cool

Since Snake told Naomi that Big Boss is his father, and that Big Boss wanted Snake to kill him, let's hope Big Boss tells him in the Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake remake. But I still want to see Solid Snake burning him with the Aerosol can & lighter in a cutscene. After the post-credit cutscenes, Snake can say that he is retiring from FOXHOUND & that he is going to Alaska to have some peace.

Actually, solid is just a tool. He isn't a character at all. Just a body, carrying foxdie wherever it goes. There is nothing good about solid snake.

I don't know if it's intentional for age but I had to do a double take on Old Snake's voice. It's rather comical and a bit funny. It's like the dictionary entry for the uber stereotypical tough guy voice.

+ultragarrison better than mgs3? lol

Phantom Boss yeap

+ultragarrison The reason for that is because of the translator who redid some of the dialogue to make it sound more believable to western audiences. Unfortunately, he was given the boot after MGS1 due to Kojima being displeased and then demanded more literal translations for the sequels. Literal translations from the Japanese language sometimes means really stilted/awkward writing in english.

Scott Perry Which is why it is great. You can feel the tension and urgency better in MGS1 even though the stakes a higher in MGS3.

+Phantom Boss Easily

Yeah I always felt that something Hinky was going on when Campbell refused to elaborate on why the Government would not turn over Big Boss's "Remains" also another thing that stood out to Me is when Snake asked Naomi about His Genetic Fate She hurriedly replies "Your Fate, I'm sorry, I have no idea" almost as though She already knew about Snake's accelerated aging but couldn't bring Herself to tell Him, and obviously The Patriots probably wouldn't have been to Happy about that either

+Aivottaja I think it's intended for Him and BB. Both had something to clean up..

+Aivottaja He meant Big Boss. As Snake said "He wanted it". Big Boss knew nothing else but war, death on the battlefield was probably how he saw his own end. But when you think about it, Big Boss probably did want Snake to kill him. Just like how Sniper Wolf was waiting for someone to kill her too.

Big Boss talks about it in MGS4, he said "the moment I killed the boss, I was already dead." He basically was numb for the rest of his life up until the moment SS killed him in MG2. He started feeling horrible with how things went with zero, chipher, SS, ocelot, Eva. He felt the most for SS because he was a tool of the Patriots. He says "maybe if you were in shoes, you would have handled it differently." Seeing how SS was a good guy trying to rid the world of metal gears and nuclear war.

+illmaticer Solid Snake ends up being the perfect anagram for The Boss's will at the end of the series. He wasnt driven a tool of the government or anyone else, nor was he carrying a phantom pain with him that caused him to turn to the dark side.

Edwardo Avila Anagram?

They already did the HD collection but not for mgs1

Berkay Shady He meant Metal Gear 1 & Metal Gear 2 not Metal Gear Solid 1 and Metal Gear Solid 2

They did and the original is better. Ask for new games that's what we need but won't happen

@@flowrepins6663 no they didn’t, idk where you saw that… we ask for a remake of Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 : Solid snake . That’s where solid snake kills venom snake and big boss. New games would be pointless cause the serie is over.

To be fair Fox was lenient and was willing to let Snake go home, but Snake didn't

Either that or they had something else planned back then.

***** Where exactly did you get that info from ?

***** I do have the original Metal Gear Solid for PS1. But I don't recall any part of the game where they said they found Big Boss' hand and knife. I only remember them talking about restoring Big Boss' DNA from just a single string of his hair.

***** There's an HD version of the first MGS? Never heard of it. When I say the original Metal Gear Solid, I mean the one that was originally released for PS1 (a physical copy, not the digitally emulated version from the PlayStation Store). I already beat that game several times (it's my favorite one of the series) and I didn't find anything that says they only found Big Boss' hand and knife. It was explainned in the Briefing tapes that they were able to restore Big Boss' genetic information from just a single string of his hair (even though his body was burned severely). Also, did you know there's actually a version of Metal Gear Solid for PC? You don't really need a PSX emulator to find out.

***** It used to be on stores around the year 2000. Now you can only get it via pirated download, I think. Wait a second, are you talking about Metal Gear Solid The Twin Snakes?

fob is optional

Except for the fact that they don't explain that you have to reject the TOS every single time just to make sure you aren't harassed every single time you open the IDROID to make an FOB. Many people would assume that you'd need to accept the TOS to play the game and you are then forced into FOB.

+Guts The Berserker or you know play offline...

+Guts The Berserker or you know play offline...

+Guts The Berserker Hayter in his prime. Shake sounded so confident, yet at the same time so cold. "He wanted it. Some people just NEED killing".

written by Japanese tho