Best workout split if you are Natural 

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So, who runs this channel now and cashes in the ad revenue?

@@stoneeh His wife or children most likely. And well deserved at that in my opinion. I'm glad they keep his legacy alive.

No one cares dude

@@Oculed1everyone cares but you apparently, you left comments angery at people for showing respect to a dead guy, put the phone down and smell the roses friend

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Agree with dssquared.. i miss his knowledge his personality and demeanour. I learned a lot from john. You're missed my friend

Facts. You’ll be good training your whole body three times a week. It may take you 6 years but don’t miss out on responsibilities for the sake of muscles.

@@bigoofinthechat5496yep that’s exactly what he said lol

@@ThugWaffle351 Yep and I was agreeing with another example 👍

No. Whats more importanter than muscles? Huh?? Thats some pencilneck shit

@@hattaraporsas it is importantest to muscles, and also life. Moral lesson: Chase women at night. Fulfilling activity for the whole family

I’ve been getting back into serious training as a natural forty year old, and this type of talk on training theory is like water in a desert. Much needed, and appreciated distillation of old school bodybuilding training.

Good point, hitting the same body parts with different exercises is, by my opinion, the best possible option for correct stimulation and more complete development.... So what do you prefer for weaker body parts, forcing them more often with lower intensity?

@@mirzaljubovic4227 I don't agree that increasing volume and frequency equates to bringing up lagging body parts- it's normally a question of working out why they aren't being stimulated in your biomechanics within a balanced routine. For example, I know that my back is lat dominant, so when I train back, I begin my workout with movements that intentionally target my rear delts and rhomboids, when I am at my freshest and can give them my full energy. This also means that when I move on to rows and movements that are lat dominant, my middle back and scapulae retractors are primed and better engaged to act as secondary agonists, in those movements.

What about chest ? And shoulders please

That's not realty how it works tho..if you have bas genetics on your biceps if you do them twice a week in many cases they won't grow. You have to do more sometimes ​@@davidlloyd2594

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You do realise john died about 2 years ago ?

@@carlodonn8983 yes

day on day off works best for us natties long term, if your too bored on your day off, go for a 30min run or swim.

I grew, particularly in the smaller muscle groups: Shoulders, Triceps, when I stopped hitting them so much. I also train to near failure twice per month only. Mike Mentzer talked about this overtraining problem quite a lot.

@@carlodonn8983 you do notice he posted this 2 weeks ago right?

Sounds like you got caught in the trap of romanticizing the theoretical side without actually enjoying it or excelling at it. If you do it properly, you're done in 3-4(5 at most) months. Plenty of their programs after SS are not full body. I'd agree though. Squatting 3 times a week gets old quick. Plus, only doing 5 reps and aiming to increase the weight every workout gets technically demanding very quickly. Without a coach, many people find the weights increase too fast before they know wtf they're doing. Vs PPL or a bro split. Playing around with volume. Not worrying about forcing the weight up so fast you're crushing yourself before you've got the hang of it. 0-2 technically demanding exercises per session. Followed by stuff that's easy to get 90% the hang of after a couple of times and then you can just have fun getting better at your own pace.

@@sh0ckwavex 'not worrying about forcing the weight up' bro needs to learn the term progressive overload lmfao

@ContentUniverse2024 you ever done starting strength bud?

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His healthy common sense approach didn't seem to help him. But hey, I'm sure it'll be better for you, right? 😂

I hope all is well how is life going?

61 here, I had to go to every other day because of recovery. So I went with a 2 day split Day 1 Quads,Chest,Shoulders,Triceps, Day 2 Hamstrings,Back,Biceps. It gives me 96 hours between hitting those muscle groups which seems to be the sweet spot for me.

Genetics plays a big role in recovery from training.

@steelphantom9105 100% My buddy was genetically gifted for bodybuilding, not only in recovery but how he was built as well.

How did it go for you? Was thinking of this plus a fourth day to hit what needs extra work

@@user-db6tx1hs5o this split and philosophy is good for those like myself who needed a back to basics routine and it helped me achieve the right mind set. Starting this year I went to a push pull total body training four days while adding one more working set the idea is best the last working set rep range. It's a killer

What training program would you recommend?

Why not do… A. Chest back shoulders B. Legs Arms Better balance I’d say.

@@DG-nb6fe yeah it sounds it to be fair like. Legs on back day leaves you in bits. I think the guy who invented Doggrcrapp training stuck biceps on leg day. It was Dorian Yates and mr America heart who mentioned doing back and legs together I think it’s so you can fit deadlifts in but it’s taxing

Do less

The approach to recover before hitting a muscle again? Why wouldn't it be??

Just thinking about SFR.

Thanks for your program advice.👍

Don't hit them so hard. They shouldn't be sore near that long.

No, I think he means your personal weak points. Like if you have a big upper body but small legs, hit legs twice as often

@@Dirk_van_Tonder thanks man!

At what age You started TRT? It was by Your desire or by need?

@@8000860 I took measurements over maybe 8 year period and T was always low normal or low abnormal dpending which laboratory since they are different. Anyway, I didnt drive to get it since I knew its hard to get it and biggest reason was that I have male pattern hairloss so I was scared I will lose my hair fast. I have eaten DHT blockers maybe 15 years so even Im on TRT I guess it blocks it enough not cause more hairloss. Just in case Ive taken a bit more DHT blocker. I was in Thailand and there are TRT clinics. I was so frustrated with everything so I thought why dont I give a shot for it. So I did and BAMMM, soon I lifted more weights than I have ever lifted with my 30 years of natural training with low T. My T started to get so low that I didnt want or had energy to go to gym, libido/erections were basically non existent, no morning erection. Now I have morning wood every morning. If I would have known what I know now I would have strated this at least 10 years ago. I will be on TRT as long as I live, going back to that low T shithole isnt an option for me anymore. You know it when you start to feel like a man again, dont want to go back and why would I, the health benefits of TRT for low T guys are huge. I really started to study it after I went on TRT and learning new stuff all the time. I was 47 when started. I should have started maybe 35 but better later than never.

full body is really just a modified PPL that takes into account that 3 days might be good rest for the L portion but that you dont need 3 days to recover from the majority of the PP exercises the only advantage of PPL is it is easier to remember what you are doing that day. otherwise why would you wait for the next pull day if your biceps dont need 3 days off to recover?

I tried PPL one workout, never even got to the second P or L…I immediately didn’t like it. I’ve been doing one body part a week for 26 years and I don’t see a reason to change. Sometimes, waiting the week seems too long, but I’m not doing calculus as far as programming. But, I definitely do calculus as far as mastering the fundamentals.

If that was your take away, you need to rewatch it. He is talking about a FUN FACTOR ONLY...GETTING A PUMP. Metabolic fatigue is not and never will be the MAIN factor to growth. That belongs to progressive overload/resistance, which full body / push pull/ upper lower are excellent for. Talk about "reading into something" or "hearing what you want to." I think you completely misinterpreted the message, my friend. He was simply saying 1. YOU CANT HAVE THE FREQUENCY MAXIMIZED FOR ALL BODY PARTS SIMULTANEOUSLY, THEY RECOVER AT DIFFERENT RATES. 2. YOU WONT GET THE SAME DEGREE OF PUMP DOING A FULL BODY ROUTINE. NOTHING MORE

There is no best split; the one you choose should align with your recovery time

That’s why Brosplit is best If you actually train hard it takes Nearly a week to recover

Pro tip: Your legs are sore for 3-4 days BECAUSE u train them only 2x/week! Hop on the squat train and do squats 3x/week! Your legs will grow and get stronk AF!! Only add calves 1-2x/week and deadlift on the last day. No need to do anything else for legs (for now). You can do whatever u like after the legs on each day.

I would suspect you don't train intensely enough, or with enough volume. Are you doing the same damn weights on the same damn exercises always? Pick new exercises. Better yet, do TONS of heavy eccentrics or negative accentuated reps, using 60% of your 1rm with 2 limbs to press or pull a weight into the fully contracted position with both arms/ legs, then lower for 6-10 seconds with only one, then press/ pull it back up with both, and lower with the opposite. Rinse and repeat to failure. You'll feel like you were ran through a meat grinder.