Beta64 - A Link to the Past / Zelda 3 

It's interesting that almost every single zelda mechanic started with Link to The Past. That's a solid pedigree.

That's so cool that we got one of the most iconic Zelda moves, the spin attack, just because of development limitations. Frankly, I'm glad; the spin attack is way cooler than a diagonal slice.

The game would have been so different if that one rock was there. :(

I never knew you could use the pegasus boots to destroy the breakable walls...

I would wager that the 4 unused "villager" sprite sets are the now un-brainwashed soldiers in civilian garb.

3:12 "255 rubies" NO, NO NO NO. "RUPEES."

Great episode, learned a couple things! Just a clarification: the hidden/cracked wall sounds are still in the game. Most materials in the game produce different sounds when being walked into with the sword drawn, including cracked walls/doors/etc.

2:20 The visible cracks weren't chosen _instead_ of hollow sounds, they were added _in addition to_ hollow sounds. You can still tap the walls by holding the attack button and pressing d in the direction of a wall.

heh-heh... Link in the Description... So... what exactly was Triforce Saga then? I know it's fake but what was the game shown?

This game is and will always stay by far my favorite

Again great video. But I was watching it again and I do feel compelled to point out a few mistakes I overlooked during my initial viewing. 2:07 Breakable walls can still be tapped by Link's sword in the released version of the game. By charging the a Spin Attack and holding it, then walking up to a wall Link is facing, he will begin to tap it with his sword, and Breakable Walls do indeed make different sounds. You made it sound as though the feature wasn't implemented. Though granted the visible cracks did make it near useless, there are a few parts were it helps out. 10:09 Silicon Knight did not create Metal Gear. They created *a Metal Gear*, more specifically the Gamecube remake of Metal Gear Solid called The Twin Snakes.

I like this preschool approach. " there are THREE blocks in this picture, and there are FOUR blocks in this picture!"

Another thing that sprang to mind about the "Beta" Zelda 3 cartridge is, why would Nintendo put the beta on a 72-Pin Nintendo cartridge as opposed to a 60-Pin Famicom cartridge?

Breakable walls were in the original zelda.

5:37 I accidentally pressed on Link in the video, it went on pause. xD

this was also my first zelda game i properly played, i experienced my first time pulling the mastersword on this one. it was well earned too as it took me a huge amount of time and effort to get there. it was glorious!

SILICON KNIGHTS CREATORS OF METAL GEAR!??? REAlly? really? yeah that must be the reason why everyone is mad at Konami because silicion knights clearly made metal gear NOt Konami yeah that makes sense... -_-

i loved with link between worlds, it was the first time i played a 60fps game and when the title screen loaded i was like, WOOOOAHHH!

Favorite game of all time. I am so glad to see real beta footage of this game.

Wish me luck. I embark on my journey to play and beat Link to the Past for the first time.

Do the beta of super mario world

I can't believe you missed the biggest thing. Compare the betas again, the perspectives are different. They were either using a bigger tile set or had it zoomed in. If you look close and count the tiles you will see the tile number counts are the same, and the tiles look bigger. I don't even think they were capable of having a zoom feature. That tileset might of been 18x18 pixels instead of the 16x16 in the final version

A game which introduced me to RPG games. Loved it!

The first time I played the game was the Japanese Super Famicom version on my Super Famicom I had bought with a voltage converter. The game was really difficult because it was hard to figure out what to do next because the text was in Japanese but I struggled through it. When it came out here in English I had finished the Japanese version many times so I knew everything to do. I remember they had a demo cart at a Captron Nintendo video game store before the game was officially released and I played the game there and the employees and gamers watching me couldn't believe how good I was at the game. They thought I was playing it for the first time and marveled at me being able to figure out where to go and what to do next so fast. They didn't know I had already completed the Japanese Super Famicom version dozens of times. I had a lot of fun impressing everyone at how good at the game I was. I did the same thing with Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger. Completed the Japanese Super Famicom version before the game was released here. There was a Japanese toy store in downtown Los Angeles and I went there and bought all the Super Famicom RPG's before they came out here.

The skull statues were technically used. Using the free movement glitch that lets you walk outside the map in a dungeon, allowing you to get to pretty much any room in the game, there's at least one room that has the skull statues. The room itself just isn't used anywhere, but it is technically in the game still, and you can get to it with the glitch. Not a big difference to what you said, but it's not technically unused. They just didn't put any doors that lead to that room anywhere in the game.

There's a thing called Minish Cap; it's one of the most underrated Zelda games of all time

After seeing some stuff from the early stages of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, I'd like to see you do a Beta64 on Spirit Tracks! Maybe one on the whole DS Zelda series!

Wow... I never knew you could run into the cracked walls until now! 20+ years later!....

there some pictures of beta in zelda alltp manual like the lamp

2:28 The sound idea wasn't scrapped in the process! We can still hear sounds if we touch cracked walls. And what you're saying isn't totally true since in the Zelda ALTTP style game on the Sattelaview, the cracks were removed from most part of the dungeons.

5:27 that skull was in fact used but hidden from sight unless you use the exploration glitch. it's in scykoh's glitchfest of a link to the past

Breakable walls were in the original zelda for nes, you used bombs to break them.

Visible cracks were chosen on breakable walls but the hollow sounds are still there, it's how you identify a cracked wall that is or isn't breakable.

I just realised why people are hyping it up so much. It had a story, a huge map, two huge maps in fact, loads of items, good music and more. What I didn't get is that although plenty of other Zelda games live up to this standard it was the first to do it all, it revolutionized the series. It is the game that left Zelda II in the dust.

Silicon Knights did not create Metal Gear. Konami allowed them to develop a remake of MGS1.

The Chris Houlihan room can be accessed without a glitch. You need to get from the Sanctuary to the secret hole entrance from the beginning of the game on the side of the castle grounds in a set amount of time.

i really hate it when people call a link between worlds the sequel to a link to the past completely forgetting that links awakening is a direct sequel to a link to the past

The first memories of my existence were this game. By far my favorite video game of all time hands down.

Timestamps for A Link to the Past 0:00: Intro 0:50: Zelda 3’s Development Story 1:24: Many Ideas were Considered and Tested 1:34: Diagonal Movement 1:42: The Spin Attack 2:06: Breakable Walls 2:26: Some Other Ideas 2:40: Screenshot Changes 5:00: Unused Sanctuary Entrance 5:19: Unused Skull Statue 5:39: Unused Stopwatch 6:01: A Small and Large Bone with Meat 6:16: Unused Letter 6:42: Unused Graphics 7:10: A Dark World Bat 7:20: Unused Canon Trooper 7:31: Unused Hyrulian Soldier Helmet 7:55: Unused Happy and Mad Face 8:01: Unused Melting Animation 8:36: The Chris Houlihan Room 9:29: The Fake NES Cartridge 10:53: A Fake SNES Cartridge 11:06: Outro 8:04: (Most Replayed)

I remember a cricuit city in fresno many years ago. It was the first time i saw a SNES. It had a link to the past playing on it. I was mabey 7 but I remember I was completely blown a way. No words could describe how aswsome it looked and how i felt.

This game aged so well

A Link Between Worlds is indeed _A_ sequel, not _the_ sequel, by the way. Link's Awakening was the first sequel. But of course, A Link Between Worlds was a sequel more than in just one way or two.

Quite interesting how if the beta stood, Link would have 16 hearts instead of the 20. Idk why but that’s always stood out for me

Loved the video. There was also Beta shots of Link using the Book of Madura to read various other writings around the world - like on the railings of the Eastern Palace.

Actually, Alttp and ALBW are named Triforce of the gods 1 and 2 in JP ver, so the first fake catridge might actually be a placeholder for the unreleased Zelda 3

13 years old stills plays such a great game

Holy hell! I've been using bombs all these years to blow up cracked walls and I could have just used the dash boots?!? How did I not know this?

The whole wall thing and sound would make since of why we can tap on the walls and doors with our sword.

to be fair, the NTSC cart was likely for translation purposes and NoA may have assumed the plot was the same, so until they had a decent build of the SNES version to work on, they easily could have continued their work on the soon outdated NES development version.

I think this is the first video of yours I have watched. Pretty awesome! I have just subscribed.

I named my Bowser amiibo "Killa7" after some sort of Melee abridged show I watched as a kid. Now I know the origin to that name. Ayyy thanks Beta64.

1:10 - The game also uses an 8Mb cartridge instead of the usual 4Mb cartridge used in earlier SNES titles Subtitles: The game also uses an 8MbB cartridge instead of the usual 4MB cartridge used in earlier SNES titles

i FOCKING LOVE this game! one of the best games ever made! (still actually beats over 90% of game releases currently! ^^)

I am surprised you didn't mention the stuff stated in the Hyrule Historia, like the retro future design.

I know Im 8 years late, but 4MB and 4Mb are two totally different things. "B" is used for Byte and "b" is used for bit

Ah, this was back before Beta64 acknowledged that he got basically every bit of his info from TCRF.

pretty interesting. it's a pity that the unused enemy is not in the game. i like him

A 1/4 magic upgrade is also in the game, and was removed at the last minute. The randomizer uses it for its Easy difficulty.

There is one little error with this beta facts for the game. But there was actually one destroyable wall in the game that was left unmarked. That was was the small square building on the lower left corner surrounded by bushes in the town in the light world.

I guess that means Link's Awakening was the first game to make the wall make a sound if it was breakable.

6:55 - to me the character shown here very closely resembles the Wizzrobes from the dungeons; his eyes match them, his hat, even his animations are very much the same - just his feet and clothes were changed to be more robe-like and his shoes are covered by a longer robe

You can get the church entrance to show up if you do the exploration glitch from the exit of the church and then find a dungeon entrance :3

Pretty sure Legend of Zelda: The Hyrule Fantasy was the foundation for the series.

It's good to know the chris houlihan room gives you the maximum number of rupee possible to get in the beta :)

I just noticed that Link's sprite in the beta version is slightly different than the final version.

Reason for removing objects close to the end of the frames is because Link need 2 tiles each frame-transition. So when he enters a new frame he wont get stuck in the object too far out.

Am I an asshole if i think Link To The Past is overrated despite the fact Zelda is my favorite series of all time, owning and beaten every title in the series? It's not a bad game at all and I understand why it's considered the best in the series it's just I feel so weird I'm in the minority on this topic...

The Chris Houlihan room appears in the UK PAL version too. not just the North American version. I've been to the room more times.

You know the famous discovery of the so-called ghost in Misery Mire? I am wondering if it was visible in the beta version.

Speaking of A Link Between Worlds, I went through the whole game, without picking up any chainmail, and without upgrading the Master Sword even one bit.

You can see the skull stone in the final game, but you need to do the exploration glitch.

Pretty sure breakable walls appeared in the original. You had to use bombs in that game, so do you mean walls you can break by the run dash move?

2:07 WHAT I thought you needed bombs!? Also, the hollow wall sound is still in the game.

Just to make one thing clear, Silicon Knights didn't make Metal Gear Solid. They made the GameCube remake of one of them, though. Great episode, by the way.

At 0:04:28 You can find the beta sword in the full game still in the lost woods!! but under the title " *fake* "!

Hey Beta, did you ever play Pirates! for NES/Sega? any reviews on that one?

*kakariko village theme was so good*

Also, the Beta versions look a LOT better than the finals -- why weren't they used?? The soldiers looked much nicer, and Link looked more like his 8-bit roots -- brown shield and all. Not to mention the scenery looked a lot more natural, like the Master Sword's meadow looks like it's a little worn, and that nobody's been up there for quite some time.

It must be awesome to have a room immortalized with your name in such a successful franchise as Zelda, plus one of the best title of said franchise. Wish I had bought Nintendo Power since the very beginning... :( oh well...

Awesome channel man, great videos! So much information about games I love that I would have never known otherwise.

3:21 Actually the limit of binary combinations on an 8 bit variable is 256. The values are 0 - 255. 0 is the first value. 2^8 = 256.

Oh wow I just realised I have that poster with the beta alttp pictures on. Cool

What? The Chris Houlihan room is accessible without using glitches. There are plenty of videos out there on how to get it. It's basically just loading your save file in the Sanctuary and getting really fast to the hole at the right side of Hyrule Castle, where you jump at the beginning of the game to get your sword and shield. ...that may be a glitch though, but I don't really think it is.

7:03 is the dude that runs away in kakariko village

I wonder what they meant by sacrificing the operability of the game to get diagonal slicing to work.

Actually the sound of the wall cracks is different from other solid wall spots when poked with the sword.

0:33 I thought you swim cloud

Happy 60,000

i'm sure you get 10000 requests a day, but if you'll take one more :P i'd love to see one for the original metal gear game, if you ever find the time! :P thanks either way for making these super informative videos, ill enjoy them no matter what the game is :D

How about a beta of the original Paper Mario? It would be interesting to find out the info on what it was before the paper idea (Mario RPG 2).

Please do a Beta64 episode on the beta of Wario World (GC) i remember seeing allot if not all the E3 or beta shots of this game back in a E3 2002 article of Nintendo Power and EGM, but i know nothing of its early development cycle and wanted to request an episode to see if footage, unused audio/untracks, gameplay mechanics, unused enemies/unused bosses unused stages or if it had origins on the Nintendo 64 i just want to know if this game had anything behind its creation to final product if its worth an episode covering its beta, also great videos i enjoy them allot and keep kicking ass - Dan "The Face"

I don't know if it has been mentioned, but which SNES Zelda beta cartridge is fake? One of those looks like it was used in Nintendo of America's in-house game "library". NP once wrote they kept at least one copy of every licensed game as a reference copy for employees, such as Game Play Counselors.

It's like you read things without checking their factual accuracy. BTW I like your videos.

There's a lot of stuff that's just flat out wrong in this video.

3:50 they removed that rock in the water so when you try and swim up from the screen below you don't get blocked by something

Actually, the Chris Houlihan room only contains 225 Rupees, not 255.

What is it with games against the number 3, I always feel like games in general stop counting after 2 and then just make whatever title other than 3

Starfox 64 had a interesting story, it even spawned a game that newer came out, but it is kinda finished (snes starfox 2)

You want it? It's yours, my friend, as long as you have enough RUBIES.

I am honestly rather displeased with this video. You spend way too much time just stroking the game's ego and talking about how great and revolutionary it was. When you finally actually started talking about the differences int he beta versions, you skip a number of very noticeable details, including changed artwork and consequently reshaped layouts. When you talk about the unused content, you missed pieces, like the invisible enemy in desert. And to top it all of, you just make several inaccurate statements. Claiming Silicon Knights made Metal Gear, mispronouncing "rupees," Okay they they are minute details and unimportant overall, but for a video that is supposed to be scouring for minute details from a game, getting those details wrong makes you sound unqualified for the video you are making. And while it is honestly not really your fault, I am displeased at the general shortage of information you had to present in this video. I wanted to see more; I was hoping for more in-depth reveals about core designs and the whole process of developing the game. I can't really fault you because I have no idea how you could get that information, but nonetheless I am still saddened that you could not put more into the video.