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BETERBIEV VS BIVOL - GREATEST CARD OF ALL TIME??? A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE 

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*CORRECTION: Nick Ball coming off a close draw, not 'defeat'. And Bonecrusher Smith also took Mike Tyson the distance in a world title fight*
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@HatmanStrikesBack
@HatmanStrikesBack 5 месяцев назад
**CORRECTION: Nick Ball coming off a close draw, not 'defeat'. And Bonecrusher Smith also took Mike Tyson the distance in a world title fight**
@kamrul828
@kamrul828 5 месяцев назад
U forgot to add Mitch Green took tyson the distance in a non title fight too and later on ur Family favorite frankie "the surgeon" Randall got disected and stopped by mediocre French Moroccan Khalid Rahilou ripped he's WBA title lol!!! the french promoting Acaries brother's were hysterically laughing as their fighter was a huge underdog.
@lighstormlightstorm9024
@lighstormlightstorm9024 5 месяцев назад
Thank you hatman. I enjoy your historic videos and perspectives its fun to listen to and very educational about the boxers back then.
@devilzbeats
@devilzbeats 5 месяцев назад
I agree, only the beterbiev bivol is the only fight I'd consider a ppv. Their spin is the hearn vs Warren. Great salesmen 😅
@Vadeem3
@Vadeem3 5 месяцев назад
@@kamrul828Mitch green fought Tyson in a non title fight, hatman was talking about title fights
@treeduck3705
@treeduck3705 5 месяцев назад
I was just going to pull you up on the Bonecrusher Smith fact.
@BricktopsPigs
@BricktopsPigs 5 месяцев назад
Akinwande-The Black Skellington-putting John "ill fight anyone" Fury on his arse multiple times. Lovely.
@jamieoreilly731
@jamieoreilly731 5 месяцев назад
Ball is coming off a draw, not a defeat
@michaelmurray7220
@michaelmurray7220 5 месяцев назад
And we all know he won.
@jonsaxby7683
@jonsaxby7683 5 месяцев назад
Bloody hell hatman he's hyping up an event it's not that deep 😂
@chrisbennett6260
@chrisbennett6260 5 месяцев назад
brilliant dissection and historical exposure of great boxing cards of the eightes and 90s
@TheSpazDevil
@TheSpazDevil 5 месяцев назад
Ive got to be real for a second.. Hatman.. this is one of your best videos ever.. After this video dropped i've started watching every fight from every card you've mentioned. Some of the most incredible matches I wish I saw sooner.
@belfastgypsy1
@belfastgypsy1 5 месяцев назад
1972 Larry Holmes v shavers Leonard vs Price Duran v gonzalez Gomez v mendoza
@DanielHogg-st8mo
@DanielHogg-st8mo 5 месяцев назад
I've never known anyone to make a point quite so conclusively as this! Fair play hatman you are the human encyclopedia of boxing. All the respect in the world to you my brother. You made me want to go down a rabbit hole of old boxing classics as soon as I get home from work!! 😅🤷‍♂️💯🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
@keeplifting494
@keeplifting494 5 месяцев назад
Hatman is on one I think the fake ade has got to him 😂
@chrisbennett6260
@chrisbennett6260 5 месяцев назад
nar just got an historical knowledge of boxing cards nobhead casuals know nothing about
@Geronimo98
@Geronimo98 5 месяцев назад
Main message I'm getting here, is that they dont make cards like they used to. I wonder if Hatman would take issue with Hearn saying this was the greatest card this century?
@doublee6369
@doublee6369 5 месяцев назад
Tell’em Hatman, tell’em 😂. I think those guys have no clue on 90% of the names you’ve just mentioned. They might have just started following boxing when they heard or Usyk during is cruiser weight carrier, AJ, Canelo etc and then know of Mike Tyson, Lennox, Evander etc 😂 so they have no idea of previous fight cards.
@Dolmite69
@Dolmite69 5 месяцев назад
How ironic. A man getting upset about people criticising on his criticising video. 😂
@fitprotunes
@fitprotunes 5 месяцев назад
Hatman got me hyped to check these old cards. Dazn should get him to host instead of Pound Shop Ade.
@deajechannel5882
@deajechannel5882 5 месяцев назад
*Here is where I disagree* I think a card can’t really be judged until the fights take place. Example, on paper the day of reckoning card was stacked full of a lot of heavyweights jostling to get themselves into contention but there was barely a competitive fight on the card, the bookmakers told us who was suspected winners where for most of the bouts. Compare that to Whyte vs Parker, a card which didn’t appear to be all that but had Conor Benn going life and death and Chisora making one of the most spectacular comebacks in a fight he was getting dominated in by Takam and of course the main event was breathtaking to the last punch. That proved to be a really good card by modern standards. So just like a football game like seeing Fulham vs Everton looks crap, if it finishes 5-4 everyone is going to be raving about how good a game it was. Where I agree the examples are great cards, I disagree in judging this until seeing it play out.
@xiv7477
@xiv7477 5 месяцев назад
Great comment. For me, a great card is one where the fighters are really putting it on the line, and the bookies are struggling to pick a favourite. The more of those fight there are on the card, the better the card is.
@mikel4159
@mikel4159 5 месяцев назад
I think that's a very fair point, only things that have happened become legendary.
@kiely4561
@kiely4561 5 месяцев назад
I agree I think all these fights are competitive so it has the potential to be a great event, i think what Hatman is saying though is that alot of those cards in the 80s and 90s were stacked with genuine world class hall of fame names in which most of the bouts were for world titles. So although this card is incredible in comparison to what we’ve had to endure in recent years its not on a level of those Don king events
@Kofz89
@Kofz89 5 месяцев назад
This is the version of Hatman I missed when he was doggin on Wilders bufoonery vid after vid I was in stitches!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@WalterFosuhene
@WalterFosuhene 5 месяцев назад
Hatman makes me laugh so hard when he insults Wilder😂
@frankjaeger393
@frankjaeger393 5 месяцев назад
You only know how good the card is after the event, big fights can dissapoint or be history making.
@marksterling2732
@marksterling2732 5 месяцев назад
Historical references onpoint - great vid
@Fury851
@Fury851 5 месяцев назад
I remember 9th November 1996 being the best night of boxing I ever remember. In UK Prince naseem hamed Vs Molina and on same card Nigel Benn Vs Steve Collins. Then later that night in USA Tyson Vs holyfield 1, moorer Vs Botha, Akinwande, Ricardo Lopez and Christy Martin all on the same bill . I was only a kid at the time but I remember being intrigued at seeing fighters like Frans Botha and Lopez who I never seen of before. Lewis Vs golota was another amazing bill. Included Gatti Vs ruelas, a young Fernando Vargas and casermayo from Cuba. Amazing
@anUntouchable
@anUntouchable 5 месяцев назад
Wilder needs to get off the hippie drugs ASAP
@MrCaptinhook
@MrCaptinhook 5 месяцев назад
Tbh I'm not interested in any of the real matchroom and Queensbury fighters. Willy Hutchinson Craig Richards Do me a favour 3 top fights are mega especially bivol v Arthur. Love your work hatman ❤
@yomz9944
@yomz9944 5 месяцев назад
The issue is fighters are expensive now a days and all the money goes to Co man and main events now … but I get Hatman point cards back in the day had several world title fights and eliminators back then
@dominica3080
@dominica3080 5 месяцев назад
Damn Hatman needs his own show
@peternagy-im4be
@peternagy-im4be 5 месяцев назад
He can't appear in person
@dogsbollocksgenius9480
@dogsbollocksgenius9480 5 месяцев назад
@@peternagy-im4bewhy
@Abaggaha
@Abaggaha 5 месяцев назад
@@dogsbollocksgenius9480 I second that why too…
@nicholaskissoon4094
@nicholaskissoon4094 5 месяцев назад
Nick Ball wasn’t defeated it was a draw
@dogpoofairy2157
@dogpoofairy2157 5 месяцев назад
This is easily the best card ever, I'm going to celebrate by taking some kids back to my flat
@jacksmith4484
@jacksmith4484 5 месяцев назад
U wat mate ppl don’t joke bout things like that
@teztezza2202
@teztezza2202 5 месяцев назад
Nonce
@dogpoofairy2157
@dogpoofairy2157 5 месяцев назад
@@jacksmith4484 Who says I was joking?
@DrBean10
@DrBean10 5 месяцев назад
Hatman my main man. Dude you know your stuff. I salute you Sir!!!...To all the numpties out there...bow down to "Don Corle-Hatman!!
@nawrocony-na-decentralizacje
@nawrocony-na-decentralizacje 5 месяцев назад
Great video.
@daisyb5646
@daisyb5646 5 месяцев назад
OMG, I remember many of the fights on the epic cards you described. Showing my age, but a great era to live through!
@DrGammaMindset
@DrGammaMindset 5 месяцев назад
I agree with you 💯 about the card
@ironcurtainboxing
@ironcurtainboxing 5 месяцев назад
Spot on Hatman! Here is a good question for you- what is the better card May 18th or June 1st?
@BricktopsPigs
@BricktopsPigs 5 месяцев назад
Id just like to ask. Are the WBA on drugs. Look at their top 15. Im in disbelief. Especially Mike Perez. 2 fights in 6 years and NONE in the last 3 AND he fights absolute cans but worse still he hasnt fought at hw since 2015!!!!!!! He makes up a trio of Cubans on the list another of which Lenier Pero,only 10 fights against handicaapped children probably. I could go on but come on. What the hell is going on here. Oh,and Bakole at No1-get bent.
@chrisdolan9579
@chrisdolan9579 5 месяцев назад
Getting upset over "who's is better" is madness! The world really has gone soft! I think there's a serious amount of recency bias with today's boxing fans! Their opinion is, "I wasn't there, I didn't see it, the internet didn't exist, so it's irrelevant". Fight's aren't always judged on how much fanfare there was around it? Or high level technically? My all time favourite fight I ever watched, despite the tragic ending, was McClellan Vs Benn? I've seen "better" fights, certainly, you just had to be there at the time to understand what I mean? But I wouldn't argue with anyone, or get upset, if someone disagreed? I would fully understand! I'm sure this generation will say the exactly same to future generations in thirty years?
@pleasepressstart
@pleasepressstart 5 месяцев назад
Hatman why do you think there was a 20 year gap between these stacked cards? Seems like we’re more common in the late 80s/early 90s but 00s and 2010s had nothing like what we’re seeing in Saudi.
@Cbiz505
@Cbiz505 5 месяцев назад
Nothing but facts hatman. Educate these casuals
@hilly451
@hilly451 5 месяцев назад
Shut up ya clown 😂
@peropero2307
@peropero2307 5 месяцев назад
FKN HELL! Vincent Pettway vs Simon Brown is a banger!!!
@huamiify
@huamiify 5 месяцев назад
Pretty sure this video is mostly a response to me 🤣 For context this is what I said below: " I looked up those Tyson vs Holyfield and Lewis vs Holyfield 1 and 2 cards Hatman. Im not seeing what you were seeing. They were distinctly average cards, main events aside. The biggest fight I saw there was Botha vs Moorer. Fair enough though, I do recall some of JCC's cards being quality back in the day." Hardly think I was being a snow flake or whatever I was being called there though 😅 Nor did I say this was the greatest card of all time. Anyways im not inclined to take it personally, nothing wrong with a difference in opinion between people from time to time.
@SaiSaiGre
@SaiSaiGre 5 месяцев назад
I don't now if it is or not, but in his review of the 5v5 presser, he mentioned that Eddie Hearn said it was was the best card ever, which Hatman disagreed with, then said he'll probably do a video on which ones he could mention
@nawrocony-na-decentralizacje
@nawrocony-na-decentralizacje 5 месяцев назад
That said, i have hard time to recall recent fight bigger than Beterbiev vs Bivol ( in boxing perspective ). Bivol is hardly losing the round, Beterbiev has 100% KO ratio in world level. Beterbiev is quite old, but he is not showing it in fights, so we can assume, he is in his prime still.
@TFB97
@TFB97 5 месяцев назад
Those Don King cards were STACKED 😳
@Dolmite69
@Dolmite69 5 месяцев назад
Eddies just there to rock the show, clock the dough and let the words flow.
@edaniel8003
@edaniel8003 5 месяцев назад
Day of reckoning shouldve been compared to the cards. it isnt fair to compare the amount of world titles or hall of famers as a criteria, as long as top fighters are fight each other.
@issavibe4436
@issavibe4436 5 месяцев назад
Boney Nigerian knuckles is crazy lmao
@meanon4408
@meanon4408 5 месяцев назад
I concur with the Boxrec rating system, it's an absolute mess, you can be related lower than somebody you unanimously beat less than a year ago.
@RobertBadea-w8o
@RobertBadea-w8o 5 месяцев назад
The promo sucks.
@blaccpanther8715
@blaccpanther8715 5 месяцев назад
When you said “it’s not even close” I thought you were exaggerating but damn! Azuma Nelson as third in support is wild
@jebriltrikha9559
@jebriltrikha9559 5 месяцев назад
Hatman educate thé People go on mate.
@10countboxing46
@10countboxing46 5 месяцев назад
Boxred said they did an updare a few yeard back which ruined their ranking system lol
@topsuperseven7910
@topsuperseven7910 5 месяцев назад
Ok but this is a helluva great card. someone can call it one of the best in this century so far.
@hhh1200
@hhh1200 5 месяцев назад
LOL John Duplessis is a blast from the past. I remember him as a small kid. The first card smokes 5v5. You could have stopped right there. Tyson and Razor of course are beyond the level of Beter and Bivol, just Tyson alone. Frankie Randall is my favorite Tuesday Night boxer. I'm sure MrBoxingToday also had the Randall Word Up Poster also, LOL
@LNGD_46
@LNGD_46 5 месяцев назад
Beterbiev vs Bivol is better than Usyk vs Fury. Fury got embarrassed by a newbie from mma.
@hilly451
@hilly451 5 месяцев назад
Exactly 😂
@10countboxing46
@10countboxing46 5 месяцев назад
Love this video, makes me jealous
@paradox6945
@paradox6945 5 месяцев назад
Great video hatman
@thecelticmagician8421
@thecelticmagician8421 5 месяцев назад
I have to watch more of Christie Martin but Savannah Marshall has to be up there in the women's game with power. Even if it aint clean she can bang
@Dan-kg4np
@Dan-kg4np 5 месяцев назад
Just landed with my big boy pants on, Fury simps try not to spray me with your jizzyness im enjoying the objectivity of the videos
@TheDreamer1980
@TheDreamer1980 5 месяцев назад
Hergovic not that well known?
@333nickmcd
@333nickmcd 5 месяцев назад
I think one of the problems with the card is that the fights have mostly been thrown together rather than being strategic or required by bodies. You need genuine needle for a good presser
@peternagy-im4be
@peternagy-im4be 5 месяцев назад
It's a great actual card but some of the stuff and the personalities around it is fcking awful.
@Boxa-G
@Boxa-G 5 месяцев назад
Those were the days. Legendary cards.
@jameseverall
@jameseverall 5 месяцев назад
These are what PPV cards should have been like for the last 12 years. A good card, sure...but as paying consumers, we've had our pants pulled down over the last decade or so.
@MattBorgerson-um8zq
@MattBorgerson-um8zq 5 месяцев назад
You are comparing apples to oranges in terms of our periods of time. Time has allowed us to appreciate these fighters more so then they did in the 90s, giving us more time to appreciate them now. Give this card 20 years and we will be talking about how great it was at the time as you are talking about those former greats.
@Internettoughguy547
@Internettoughguy547 4 месяца назад
Good point but he made clear comparisons and I would say 5x5 doesn’t stack
@adillambat
@adillambat 5 месяцев назад
16:38 he said distinctly average lol
@swallski9714
@swallski9714 5 месяцев назад
Boxing has such an incredibly deep history that if you say anything, or anyone, around today is the best ever, you're going to sternly corrected
@johndawhale3197
@johndawhale3197 5 месяцев назад
"Hyperbowl"
@Lennox032
@Lennox032 5 месяцев назад
Well when you put it that way Hatman, no argument with regards to strength of fight card
@thecelticmagician8421
@thecelticmagician8421 5 месяцев назад
Tbh I didn't realise how great the cards were back then, wow
@ST-ge4hh
@ST-ge4hh 5 месяцев назад
People have become more stupid and less questioning of what they hear.
@charliefrancis10
@charliefrancis10 5 месяцев назад
100%
@treeduck3705
@treeduck3705 5 месяцев назад
I was just looking at the Boxrec results of some of those fights, didn't Terry Norris win the UD over Simon Brown in the rematch? I think so.
@Sweet-Science
@Sweet-Science 5 месяцев назад
5x5 Hearn v Warren….. this doesn’t feel real after over a decade of hate, non cooperation & vitriol.
@paulcharnley8245
@paulcharnley8245 5 месяцев назад
That Arab cash hits the bank a bit different haha there's nothing in sports money can't buy
@nicklausschubert298
@nicklausschubert298 5 месяцев назад
Just watched a christy martin highlight video... DAMN she has to be the gwoat. Never seen a chick fight like that
@limitless1919
@limitless1919 5 месяцев назад
2 good fights for me both HWs
@WarrenPaulWilliams
@WarrenPaulWilliams 5 месяцев назад
EDDIE I'LL TELL U WHATEVER U WANNA HEAR HEARN LOL
@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071
@mrbipolarmattyhoward6071 5 месяцев назад
Love Hatman he just says it how it is he don’t hold back 😂😂
@a.kgriff335
@a.kgriff335 5 месяцев назад
lol true.
@stickii2131
@stickii2131 5 месяцев назад
Bull was a close draw but defeat but all good! Great video and 💯 agree
@mysports3441
@mysports3441 5 месяцев назад
I will agree with u however what I think Eddie should have said was this is the greatest main event. Now i know most people will probably say Ali vs Fraser or thriller in manila which I can accept. But I will say this fight between Arthur and dmitry is the best fight that has ever taken place at 175 lbs I would Argue with anyone who disagrees. I would go as far to say that stylistically this is the best fight of the last 30 years
@deaconworcestershire93
@deaconworcestershire93 5 месяцев назад
3:02 😂
@linkage645
@linkage645 5 месяцев назад
Hatman did u ever see Lucia rijker box
@Jonnysonone
@Jonnysonone 5 месяцев назад
Moaning about people moaning. Just ignore it man.
@TheKitchenRat
@TheKitchenRat 5 месяцев назад
Eddie knows Rhule Britannia was the best card he’s ever done. Weather it’s the best in history or not, it was pretty up there on the night.
@QlinkTenC
@QlinkTenC 5 месяцев назад
It’s his job 🤷🏾‍♂️
@aintnoplum
@aintnoplum 5 месяцев назад
Tasty
@peteroneill1859
@peteroneill1859 5 месяцев назад
Did you no that Emanuel steward said that Henry akinwande was the most talented heavyweight he'd ever trained.
@grudeman
@grudeman 5 месяцев назад
The lewis tucker undercard was exceptional 👍 the Frankie Randall straight right that dropped Chavez was beautiful absolutely no setup, like butter
@hanspettergundersen7301
@hanspettergundersen7301 5 месяцев назад
I watch many boxing channels everyday.Including Fannon . I,m a huge boxing fan,but not fan of spesific fighters or promotion companies. My attitude is...May the best man/woman win. And I wonder why this channel is almost all about some very few fighters? Spence,Ennies and Tank, plus Wilder and the Charlo brothers earlier.Just an honest question.Correct me if I,m wrong
@perpetualintellectual2026
@perpetualintellectual2026 5 месяцев назад
You must be a new listener......I've been here for 5-7 years, and I think you're wrong
@travisjohnson7283
@travisjohnson7283 5 месяцев назад
Forgot fury joshua those are his bread makers
@Hff19927
@Hff19927 5 месяцев назад
🤣🤣 its one of the bests shows in the last 10 years. First promo is bad, then presenters are crap. Be complaining about the ring card girls wearing hijabs next
@makk143
@makk143 5 месяцев назад
The promo sucks.
@lloydcrooks712
@lloydcrooks712 5 месяцев назад
Agree with press conference was dull really enjoyed the trailer personally thought it reflected the characters of the promoters definitely not best card ever possibly one of the best post Don king Larry Holmes v shavers 1978 or9 sugar ray Duran and Gomez on undercard 4 HOF
@williamwalace
@williamwalace 5 месяцев назад
Damn it Bakole you were supposed to fight Hrgovic
@henrynwosu1
@henrynwosu1 5 месяцев назад
I agree that this card ain’t close to the greatest card ever. Matter of fact, I believe day of reckoning was even better and day of reckoning ain’t best card ever. Eddie is a promoter and he will do what promoter does. However, I liked the press conference and people around me got hyped for the card after the press conference. I do understand that the promoters spoke a lot and the presenter did too much, but I think the promoters sold the card well. My take
@TheKitchenRat
@TheKitchenRat 5 месяцев назад
I’ve said this about the press conference. Dev was terrible as usually and they really need to stop hiring him for MC jobs. The other presenter is out of place and Ade should’ve probably been up there with David Diamonté Announcing. The masks were unnecessary and the promo was all we needed. Yes the fighters should’ve been allowed to talk more but I think it was quite embarrassing for some of them. I love the concept but they need to tighten things up a lot to make it last. I know Hearn is just setting up Joshua Wilder though and just going along with these sort’ve tournaments to get the money for other fights.
@seanfowler9282
@seanfowler9282 5 месяцев назад
This is a great card but as a ppv does this reach out to casuals? I’m no so sure
@SaiSaiGre
@SaiSaiGre 5 месяцев назад
Boxing hard-core fans always say we aren't needed as casuals and ruin the sport tho
@dalesterky6687
@dalesterky6687 5 месяцев назад
A 40 year old China-man 😂
@therealfinancipation
@therealfinancipation 5 месяцев назад
If Wilder knocks out Zhang, AJ is going to cry and pour and DUCK Wilder for another Decade
@iffysd9864
@iffysd9864 5 месяцев назад
Why would he be fearful of a fight with Wilder who's been on the decline?
@simonbrandy9662
@simonbrandy9662 5 месяцев назад
Step aside Spencer Fearon. Hatman, the knowledge. Great rant. I will say, there is a chance some of the fighters on Saudi card may become hall of famer's. But Hatman is right. The Saudi card doesn't stack up.
@olivermurphyboxing
@olivermurphyboxing 5 месяцев назад
I agree card is amazing but not the best ever and the presser was horrible to watch
@omsval1485
@omsval1485 5 месяцев назад
Rose tinted Hatman! Who the hell is this mike tyson bloke?
@shanebatchelor3151
@shanebatchelor3151 5 месяцев назад
Don't even think it's the best card in the last year
@hilly451
@hilly451 5 месяцев назад
Oh aye, it's terrible. Give it a rest 😂
@shanebatchelor3151
@shanebatchelor3151 5 месяцев назад
@@hilly451 did I say it was a bad card 🤦
@TheBjmoore
@TheBjmoore 5 месяцев назад
Seems like your hating , 5 of these fights could be headliners
@Grommok
@Grommok 5 месяцев назад
Casuals and Snowflakes, lol
@kiely4561
@kiely4561 5 месяцев назад
lucia rijker vs christy martin was a great fight that never happened
@urbanboutiqueapartment6623
@urbanboutiqueapartment6623 5 месяцев назад
Go on Hatman Brockem-Up bro hahahahahahahahahaha
@StevenCavanagh-od8lq
@StevenCavanagh-od8lq 5 месяцев назад
Theres two proper good fights three at the most on the card 🤷🏻‍♂️
@joestuttard1495
@joestuttard1495 5 месяцев назад
Lol
@ironfist768
@ironfist768 5 месяцев назад
Beterbiev-Bivol is certainly one of the most interesting matchups ever. IDGAF about the rest, apart from Zhang/Wilder.
@hilly451
@hilly451 5 месяцев назад
Wow, you're actually complaining about this card 😂😂😂
@TRIPLEBPROMOTIONS
@TRIPLEBPROMOTIONS 5 месяцев назад
No he’s not complaining about, he’s just putting it in perspective, so what he’s saying is it’s not really the best card ever, some good fights but not the best card ever kid
@J1M1F
@J1M1F 5 месяцев назад
Yes, he’s putting it in perspective. You’re clearly a moron.
@matt7matt722
@matt7matt722 5 месяцев назад
He's not complaining. As he said, it's a review about the card.
@fookorf
@fookorf 5 месяцев назад
back to GB News, dumbo.
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