Better than Tacoma?! - 2023 Nissan Frontier PRO-4X Review 

Nissan and quality don’t go together lol. They have engine issues already. Enjoy your quality truck.

@@porsheracing I will, thank you

@@porsheracingCan you please mention what those issues are? Undecided what to get to replace my aging Tacoma.

​@@porsheracing That's funny because I've had 3 Nissans go over 250,000 miles with no problems whatsoever. 2 others in driveway right now with over 160,000 also with no issues.

​@@porsheracing Go ride your bicycle David, Nissan has a great motor.

Or maybe the reason you're not poor is because you don't foolishly spend over $40k on a midsize pickup?

40k is the average cost of a mid size these days. Average cost on a full size is 60k.

Full size is just going to be bulkier and more money. Prices for mid-sizes do seem high to me as well, but guess we've got to weigh our options and needs.

It’s always better to buy used, you could get a 10 year old f-150 for half the price of these new truck and are more capable. It just depends on what you’re looking for.

@@d.b.2917 used can be tricky, especially when you’re considering something that old. The average miles on a 10 year old vehicle is 120,000 miles. You’re certainly going to be looking at potential for serious engine and or transmission issues along with obvious wear and tear items. Also with your particular example, 2013 f 150s were fairly problematic, from complete transmission failures(they had a software issue that cause them to downshift into first gear randomly), prone to manifold cracking, faulty brake master cylinder seal, among other things. The National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration also received a large number of complaints about this particular year ranging from unintended rapid acceleration, sudden deceleration, and melted wires from shorts.

Being naturally aspirated is nice and all. However, probably my biggest complaint about the truck right now is that it is a complete tortoise. Probably the slowest mid-size pickup there is and that's saying something next to the Tacoma. It's especially bad when passing, merging and overtaking.

@@manahang1 If you want fast get a sports car.

Even worse than the 2.7 4 cyl. in the Tacoma? How is that possible?@@manahang1

you can always tune it and add some performance parts

@@manahang1 You're kidding, right? A sub 8 second 0-60 time is plenty fast for a truck. On par with a 90s GMC cyclone. Besides, what's the point? Who buys a truck to get into drag races.

Absolutely. I drove a Tacoma while my truck was getting an airbag recall done. I hated it.

We’ll see in 2043. 😊

It’s a Nissan so nah.

Coming very very soon…. next Friday, may 19….

And I still chose a Tacoma lol. I don't care about an outdated interior.

Reliability bro

I agree the Toyota Tacoma is mass produced I recently traded in my 2021 TRD Pro after my recent trip to Big Bend, It snowed and we got stuck a ZR2 pulled me out and I talked to the owner he showed me his truck and I was shocked to find it had front lockers ,when I got home after spring break vacation I tried to find one because they're not mass produced which In Houston shouldn't be hard , wrong only two were available when I arrived at CarMax someone was already getting wrote up for it so I went to my second option and drove it oh man it was faster, roomier, and suspension felt better. The trade in was crazy I actually got a check and have never been happier the body styling is aggressive like a raptor and beautiful front end...

A lot of Toyota's current sales are from hype. Go drive the Frontier - it sits WAY better than the Tacoma. I think people who are high on the Tacoma are just biased or haven't driven other stuff out there. They do make nice stuff, but they are not worth it for the premium.

What did you get?​@@albertherrera8240

Great purchase Tyler!

Did you consider the Titan as well? My son had a G35 and it was a piece of crap but I understand their Trucks are made differently? How is mpg?

@@bcw686 I drove a Titan. It was very nice but more truck than I need. This Frontier is my first Nissan. So far it’s been great. I’ve gotten 30+ mpg on 50-55mph roads for 60-70 mile stretch. Driving down south on I-95 I got under 20mpg going 65-85mph.

needs ventilated seats for southern owners

It will be falling a part by the time you get it paid for. Not the same Nissan they used to be. 1999 Frontier was when it all started to change thanks to Renault. Yeah they are nice when new, long lasting reliability no contest with Toyota Tacoma.

I have a Gladiator but really like the Frontier, enjoy!

Try diving a ZR2

@@albertherrera8240 sat in the new Colorado at our auto show, last month. Feels nice and also very comfortable. We’re just not Chevy guys.

How's the gas mileage? Because I'm kinda deciding between the pathfinder and this truck 🚚

Have to agree on the A/C. Probably the coldest A/C of any vehicle I've ever owned. I have to keep my thermostat at 76 to keep from getting frozen out.

@@christopheryu5616 Obviously MPG is going to be highly dependent on the conditions you normally travel in. That being said, I'm currently getting 23.5 MPG at just over 2,500 miles in mine. I use mine as a daily commuter in the Northern Virginia area. However, I'm an early riser so I avoid most of the bad traffic which obviously is giving me outstanding MPG.

I just want to know if the Nissan lasts as long as the Toyota.

The monthly payment surely will.@@Damon-qt3fw

Thanks for the info. Crash safety is probably the most crucial thing.

Congratulations!

Looks real good. Totally underrated IMO.

Lol......😂 Sad day when the taco or pro 4 x get stuck... Try driving the best midsize truck with more rear legroom and actual front and rear lockers not to mention better shocks....try driving a ZR2 Colorado than you can make these bold claims I've drivin all of these in dessert and snow along in mountain terrain and nothing new out there stock handles like the ZR2, except for the Rubicon gladiator and that's about it.

​@@albertherrera8240 Chevy suck!

@@albertherrera8240 We will see in 10 years which one has more problems. I have zero faith in ANY truck with turbos.

Just brought me home, one just like it. 33 miles on it ! Looking forward to this truck🌵

Hopefully a new platform with an update like the upcoming Tacoma; this one still uses f-alpha platform from 2004 lol

@@chibbyylol - D41 Frontier (on the F-Alpha chassis) is TOO NEW (this is only its' 2nd model year) for a major update (what do you want, to get rid of the V6 for a T-I4? Not yet.) The D41 is not the same one as the D23 Nissan is still selling overseas as the Navara and other nameplates. Unlike the Z, the D41 Frontier is SO DIFFERENT from the D40 Frontier and D23 Navara that deserved its' proper updated number.

It does looks nice but what’s about liability of the truck?

@@bobwilson3435 - figure the NA-3.8L V6 is still from the VQ family of V6 engines (3.0L, 3.5L, 3.7L and 3.8L) that has been PROVEN RELIABLE for many years. Also the tranny, the J913E, is the same one the Titan has had since '20 and even the new Z. That is a JATCO-made version of the Mercedes 9G Tronic (used by both Mercedes and Aston Martin). So both engine and transmission are updated and PEDIGREED.

It's on a 20 year old platform as it is lol

If I’m correct Nissan offers that exact trim but it’s exclusive to Canada only

@@swami539 cross-border shopping time then…

@@faheemabbas3965 honestly lol

They only build the models that sell the most

Finally after 13 weeks got it back! Warranty is only on parts and labor not for a new transmission as it was just an overhaul says Ford! Going back to Toyota!!

How's the ride height of the Frontier compared to the Tacoma? Over and over I keep hearing that the Frontier is a more comfortable ride. I am in the market for my first truck and I want to sit high. I am coming from a 2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport hatchback aka a go-kart.

@@stw2186 Well I previously had a 2021 wrangler Willy’s and it was nice but the ride was so damn rough on and off road. The frontiers ride height is good in my opinion and personally I think that on and off the road is more comfortable than the Tacoma. I would say the seat position in the frontier is a lot more comfortable than the Tacoma, to me the Tacomas seat position is like a sports car. I would say test drive them both and see which one suits you more.

If I am paying 46k for anything it better come with good resolution on the camera angles. I know it is a really good truck it's just at that price point it needs to have those things

@@bcw686 I feel you on that but to be honest to me their was more pros than cons when I made my decision on this truck

@@BanquetBoysTX glad you like it cause I still feel like brand new with the warranty you can't beat it

Interest rates are going up again before this year is over. It's better to just wait another year or two if you can. Clown show is in full effect right now.

rock creek pathfinder

Yeah Mav hybrid is the best… buuuut very low production 😢

@@MrOscar5690 Anything but a V6 sucks

@@chiefman8316 not for my needs

I own a Maverick. Am looking for a bigger truck.

Ridgeline is an excellent truck.

I think their trucks are much better than their cars

@@bcw686 agreed

I have a 422k hardbody and a 360k mile Sentra. A guy in Chicago got a million miles out of a Frontier. Not sure where the bad Nissan reputation is from, except maybe the CVT problem.

​@@TIJoe-te9qu it's definitely the CVTs. Lots of problems in the last two decades. Nissan is putting this 9 speed in a few of their new vehicles and it's performing well

I’ll raise you one. A brand new 1988 F150 4x4 Lariat, nicely optioned, 302 V8, manual 5 speed, $12,800. (Same now is $70k+ ??). Unfortunately tho, it was the worst reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. Kept it 15 mos/15k miles, 3 leaks, 2 brake jobs, 3 alignments, gas tank sender died, dash dimmer switch only worked in one narrow position, emergency brake froze on in winter, hauled to town and thawed out in heated shop overnight, 1st engine sucked oil, dropped to 350/qt. 2nd engine started out at 1,100 miles/qt and if the manual was shifted up too soon, bogged engine jumped and hiccuped and ran on like 5 cylinders until 2000 rpm hit and zoom, all eight firing. Dealer couldn’t fix it, F-150 went bye bye, but I did tell Chevy salesman I had issues with it. He acted like he didn’t wish to know. Next was new 89 little Blazer with wonderful 4.3L six, nigh $16,000. Drove it 80k miles and only an ABS replaced and a door seal adjusted for windy days. That was it ! 4000 miles, zero oil consumed. Fast forward, now for secondary don’t give a rip about paint dings, washing it, nada, for last 8 years I’ve come to love my $1000 1989 Chevy S10 RWD, from NC is not rusty, everything works, AC ice cold, NOISY compressor, been that way for years, still cold, my little bomber with torquey 4.3L V6. Only thing “wrong” is steering sector is worn and a small oil drip. 270,000 freekin miles. It boggles my mind to compare that old trouble free bomber to that brand new 1988 true lemon. Wow. Boggled.

Newest Armada/QX80 since 2022 will last forever.

@@KirkKreifels oh yes. Forgot the armada! I completely agree.

How about the gas milage compare to the tacoma?

Great choice!

How's your MPG?

@@cs1992 17 to 18 city

How much did you pay for it, outdoor price?

@@VictorReyes-er9hy I got 2k off msrp. Got it for $46,695 before taxes and fees. I also got the bed sports bar at no cost.

Just got a 23 access cab 4x4 taco in April. Best decision I ever made. Unmatched reliability from Toyota never ceases to amaze me.

Totally the tranny won’t last nearly as long as Toyota

😊I'm really thinking about getting my Frontier pretty soon

Pro 4x gets worse mileage but mpg ratings changed around that time also but yea definitely not good on gas

Not sure how much money you will save. Motor trend is estimating the 2025 hybrid version of the 4Runner base model to start at 45k. That’s for rear wheel drive. You can’t bet the 4x4 base version will at least be 50k+

@@justaname109 Thank you for a promising news. Lol. Then no, I would just keep driving mine til wheels fall off since it's now being used as a getaway vehicle few times a year

My thoughts exactly.

Thanks Greg! Have you tried the wheel/seating positions in the Frontier? I found it much more comfortable than the Tacoma. The cabin is cooled with ease - My kids had no issues staying cool in the Florida heat despite lack of rear vents.

@@KirkKreifels For sure. Well deserved! I have not yet been in a frontier. I believe you on the more comfortable than the Tacoma. It has to be one of the worst seating positions I've been in. But, I'm 6'3''. Even still, it needs a revamp in that department. I'll check it out for sure. Thanks for the info. Best...

A telescoping wheel would be nice but it wasn't a dealbreaker for me. He is right about the A/C though, it blasts cold air even on the lowest fan settings.

@@KirkKreifels Needs ventilated seats for southern buyers

The rear a/c vents are under the front seats

Got a 2019 Chevy Colorado commercial trim for work, nearly 100k miles and its not too bad, no major issues. I didn't choose to get this particular truck, but for a Chevy it isn't terrible.

So you like unreliable. Got cha

@@pnwmv Are you kidding? Tell me you know nothing of Nissan pickups without telling me you know nothing of Nissan pickups. Nissan pickups are rear wheel drive Jatco automatic transmissions. That means they are some of the most bulletproof transmissions in the world. It’s only the front wheel drive CVTs that were crap.

​@@mrgurulittle7000 Just ignore the Taco cultists. They just can't help themselves.

@@manahang1 😂

@BrianEugeneLee-xq2hyAgree.

i really want a diesel option.

Sorry, can’t have it in the land of the free

Brakes are better in the Nissan ☺️

@@KirkKreifels impressive 👍🏽

Frontier is still my favorite. Even over the new Tacoma.

Man I'm looking at buying a used one with 8K miles and I am beyond stressing about the payments!

My blind spot monitors are my eyeballs.

@@josiahwyncott7519 congrats on the eyeballs.