I thought it was until it started to spin the prop. That's when I realized that it was a large electric R/C. But yeah, Just the power system for something that large cost more than I want to spend. Large lipo batteries are insane $$
G'day, Look closer, Einstein...; in the Clip Description it says, "Aeromodelsimile..." Or something like that, it was fairly obviously "Scale Aeromodelling...", but written in the language of the Frog-Eaters... Such is Life, Have a good one... ;-p Ciao !
@@WarblesOnALot So is that how you identify videos is go to the description or the title above? Still poorly written, RC is the identifier. Einstein mutch?
Beautiful frame work with the sun showing through the wings. Nice model, great representation of the full scale aircraft, including its flight characteristics. Those were some brave young men in the early days of flight and more so flying into battle.
Watch the rudder. He had full left rudder to try to tighten the turn while in a left bank and only just above the stall. That's called bottom rudder and it has killed an enormous number of pilots during the last two slow turns to a landing, including many, many flight instructors with thousands of hours of flying time.
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Makes little or no difference, wherever the 'pilot' was located, they became clumsy with the rudder inputs & stalled the port wing.
What a huge shame, I didn't realise the scale until the recovery crew went in, I had a similar crash with my Dr1 but it survived to fly another day, on the other hand my DH2 wouldn't be so lucky, beautiful models to see in the air that recreate an era of brave young men and the stupidity of war, cheers
Amazed anyone with a grasp of WW1 history, or aircraft, thought this was real. Esp as clearly says "aéromodélisme" just below the heading. Personally I commend the builder on taking on such a risky project, the real ones were tricky enough to fly, and contrary to the armchair experts or those "pilots" that can "fly" via video games, flying r-c aircraft in the flesh is rarely easy, certainly not scale models like these, in some ways it's harder than being up there yourself. Great vid, sad ending, thanks.
Well, that turned out to be exactly what looked like, a crash waiting to happen. It was, however, a stunning demonstration of early aircraft design combined with a fatal misapplication of aircraft controls. But to be fair to the aircraft design, there are few modern aircraft that could have survived such an outstanding example of "Pilot Error"
@@SR-gs8zo Thanks, I just watched this again and noticed on takeoff the outer wing sections appear to have significant 'wash-in' rather then washout, effectively leaving the outer wing sections at a higher angle of incidence and attack, making the aircraft more susceptible to a wingtip stall. That being it looked like he was maintaining enough foward airspeed to generate enough lift to just about remain airborne if he hadn't cobbed in a lot of left rudder and right aileron. Basically, most certified aircraft would have done the same, and at even a higher forward airspeed and would have likely been fatal. The little contraption did pretty well considering the design and what the pilot did. I'd feel comfortable flying it, just not so foolishly.
Firstly, I thought it was a real plane until after the crash... but I was watching the flight control inputs along with the apparent airspeed and I knew this wasn't going to end well.
My brother and I used to fly gliders, slope soaring. With good lift you could just hover or just slightly move at leisure. We always called that kind of lift a "kite flying day". After we got into power planes he seemed to think that a plane would still fly without moving forward to produce lift and he crashed more than one with that kind of hockey stop turn.
@@jackoneil3933 I think this is an optical illusion. In theboard part of the lower wing is cut out to afford the pliot some downaward vision. However there appears to be no differntail aileron in evidence. This is mandatory on such a subject. Furthermore I did not see any use of the rudder. Again, on an aircraft of this kind the use of rudder is mandatory. In the sequence the model enter an incipient spin at low level. You will see that as the pilot applies right aileron, the model yaws to the left. This is classic adverse yaw caused by the down going aileron entering higher pressure air than the upgoing aileron. Whilst builing, differntil aireron can be arranged to make the upgoing aileron travel further than the downgoing aileron. This is use on both full size and models frequently. In a turn rudder should be used in the same direction as aileron to acheive a balanced turn, In the event of an incipient spin beginning, the pilot must centre the ailerons and unload the elevator quickly, whilst applying opposite rudder. Then the nose must be lowered to increase airspeed. Many pilots have died and many models have crashed by not recognising, and dealing with this problem in time.
The original DH-2 was called "the spinning incinterator" by it's pilots because it would spin very easily and spin recovery was impossible for most. It was also prone to in-flight fires.
"Spinning incinerator " due to tendency of a engine cylinder removing itself from casing , sometimes slicing tail boom. Originally the DH2 had controls rigged to counter torque of engine . Later changed to if engine was off. Maj Hawker took one up and deliberately did spins to the relief of his pilots.
@@highway2run you are right! He was a superior pilot!! Had he lived,, no telling how Much different things would’ve been! He was a superb leader, innovator!! Rest In Peace!!
@@highway2run Lanoe Hawker figured out how to get the DH-2 out of a spin by somehow forcing it into an inverted position to recover. Normal spin recovery procedures did not work on the DH-2.
Do such models have a proper modelled engine (as opposed to a model engine - if you know what I mean)? It sounds sort of authentic as opposed to model like.
What a shame, such a beautiful model. On the upside, based on photos I have seen of WWI crashes, it's sad demise looked very authentic. I am sorry for your loss..
LEFT Rudder and RIGHT Aileron at slow airspeeds? That's asking for trouble. The Rudder is way more effective at slow airspeeds than the Ailerons. The aileron input to the right made the left wing stall. Classic Stall Spin. Needs to learn about proper control inputs.
like many, clicked on to see what happened to a rarity. Soon as it took off I thought "MAN they overpowered that one" then realized it was RC. And then he went around flying it like it was a throw away arf, one mistake from, whoop there it is. Shame.
While my eyes were popping from the accident and my heart was pounding, with no one running to help, I heard the announcer say "Non... Non-non... et non!" looking like Charles Aznavour with the music playing. My brain went into knots "Is this how the French react to the death of a pilot??"
Hello duchateau hubert, would it possible to contact you regarding one of your videos i.e via mail? I would love to discuss a permission to use it if this is possible. Greetings!
looked to have plenty of power actually. it was porpoising the whole time and it looked , to be honest, the the pilot didnt have a clue. i know it was RC. several times the left turns looked far too aggressive, and the wind was clearly blowing right to left, which made it worse. in the end it was going too slow and pulled too aggressively into the final left hand turn, porpoised upwards and tip stalled. the throttle control of the pilot was poor, evidenced by the brutally vertical take off, and then too slow in its second and third passes. it very well couldve been tail heavy. either way, the RC pilot's control was quite poor and didnt recognise the situation..he shouldve climbed under full throttle, trimmed out and taken his time to gain some control, then as soon as he did, take it away from the field and come in shallow and fast and landed it.
Looks like there was a fairly strong breeze (moving right to left in the video), and on his last turn into the wind, his ground speed had dropped (as well as his airspeed into the breeze); when he turned downwind, his effective airspeed dropped below stall. Certainly a stall spin, initiated when he turned downwind with an already marginal airspeed. I've flown quite a few large scale RC planes, they are twitchy to fly in wind because of all the wing area and relatively light wing loading. It was a beautiful R/C plane, the giveaway to me, at the beginning of the video, was the engine start. These plans had no automatic starter, they had to be hand propped to start.
At exactly 1:54 you can see the mistake made by the pilot, a very common one made by many RC and General Aviation pilots alike. Cross controlling with rudder deflection into the turn and ailerons deflected away from the turn creating a skid condition that combined with a stall, lead to a tail spin.
The model flew in waves, which means it was tail-heavy. The center of gravity was too far back. You can see exactly how the model tilts over the wing and can no longer be intercepted from the uncontrolled spiral flight. The model pilot should have recognized this.
I thought there was a problem with the weight and balance, and the pilot was having a hard time flying it. Now, it makes sense. It was flying like a typical RC aircraft. Dur
Ok, needs RC in title, but it looked odd. The fuselage (bit that wasn't wings or engine) was too deep. Ok, I thought after figuring that this was just a model, maybe it was made deep enough to house the receiver and stuff - but then it becomes apparent (after the crash, with the recovery crew alongside) that it was actually fairly large, so why couldn't it have been made a replica and not a representation?
I love airshow demo's but this was clearly a model! I hate with passion the guy on the microphone who wouldn't shut his mouth with the flight demonstration! Then after the crash had the gall to continue blabering! The music was also not appreciated! Very sorry for the loss of such a beautiful model. 😞
Worth noting at 1:56~58 full right aileron, but left rudder?! With modern radio control, it is foolish to not 'mix' rudder and aileron for slow aircraft.
Go fly full scale sailplanes for a bit. I used to have the same mentality, until I started flying sailplanes. I got rid of the mixes and learnt to use the rudder, my flying in all areas has improved greatly!
A classic stall/spin departure from controlled flight. It doesn't matter the scale, physics are physics and once a plane reaches the critical angle of attack, it's gonna stall in.
Ok..., what would I'd like to do now? Oh..., a leftward spin. Here we go...: right stick cross controls (roll input opposite to rudder input) and aft stick. OOps! I've forgot I'm only at 30 meters!
Good to see that there were so many of those in the crowd who showed real concern for the RC pilot by rushing over to lend some RC first aid to him. I wonder if he survived. 😏
I see all kinds of crazy things stated here like the air is thinner over the wings. My observations as a flight instructor and a RC pilot. In slow flight you are always feeding in opposite aileron to keep the plane from over banking. As long as you are coordinated with your rudder nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately with models there is no input to the pilot to see if you are indeed coordinated. Second he was flying very slow as was evident by the nose up attitude, the need to feed in opposite aileron to maintain bank. The end result was he got to slow, he was skidding the turn and then it stalled. As soon as it started rolling he should have added opposite rudder, pitched down, neutralized the ailerons and added full power. At the height he was at a recover from an incipient spin was impossible and a beautiful model was destroyed.
The last turn took him below flight speed and the plane stalled. It didn’t look very stable during the whole flight to me. Too much drag and not enough thrust to overcome the drag.
wileecohagen I think that it took the left wing into a stall. Once you start turning into the lower wing the higher wing increases in lift and the lower wing stalls. Then the right wing, in this case, has significant lift over the stalled left wing, Stall, spin, die. Even in large scale R/C models.
wileecohagen no problem my friend! Just my brain walking through the same process. I’m a pilot and a model pilot as well. During flight training it’s drilled into us about how to avoid this scenario.
Classic base-to-final stall spin. You can see how much rudder he was using. The bigger these models get, the more they fly (and crash) like real airplanes.
Thanks guys! I’ve been a life long enthusiast. My 8th grade science teacher was a saber pilot in Korea. He was shot down over North Korea where a family hid him until he could walk well enough to get himself across the border. But two broken legs meant he would never fly military aircraft again. He taught handful of us what amounted to ground school. But I never had the money to get my certificate. 50 years later I love all kinds of flight. Thanks for your input gentlemen, you’re never too old to learn!
The German "Du" is the title of Heino's most famous German love song. In that case it's a demonstrative pronoun. Definitely worth listening to. But that's not helping, is it? The 'du' used in the title of the video happens to be the French contraction of 'de' and 'le', a preposition and an article, translated in English it means "from the". It hope that saved your day... five years ago.
With a good wind, lots of rc pilots make the mistake of flying too slowly on a downwind. From a position on the ground, visually, pilots get fooled. With full deflection of controls things just get worse.
The commenter says at 01:25: » this plane is from the debuts of combat aviation, the centering is hard, it easily goes into a spin (...) it killed many of it’s pilots but through time, we’ll get used, we’ll familiarize (...) » And then at 01:56: » it’s a nimble aircraft...attention oooooh no no and no! ....this is truly a pity and, you’ll forgive me the expression but: shit ». :D
