Let it be known, the planet broke before the guard did! Cutscene of the prologue from Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 of the space battle that took place against the forces of Chaos.
Also will just say that while when I played this I found the entire cut scene cool, that moment when you see the Chaos Cruisers engage full thrust towards the Blackstone Fortress, I was just like "Ooooh shit." And immediately that line from the reveal trailer went through my head "An Icon will fall" I knew that Cadia got destroyed, just didn't know we were going to get front row seats at the start of the game.
that line blew my freakin mind, i wish they gave more context numbers more often, e.g in the campaign after fighting nurgle champ, you have to purge half your crew, metal af
Prophetic ShadeZ a battle ship normally has a self sustaining crew of 3 million at the minimum a full crew is about 5 million almost all of the crew would have spent the whole life on that ship born on it grew old and died of old age on never leaving its hull it also has the ability to grow basic food stuffs for its crew and replacement of water is handled getting in from plants that provide water only needs to dock for repairs ammo and Fuel
How about being the commander of a fllet and receiving this panicked message "Situation critical Tyranid forces have reached the solar system They are approaching holy terra The navigators report they can bearly see the light of the astronomicon All ships receiving this break for the warp and head for terra immediately All attempts must be made to reach terra before the devour breaches the palace All risks be damed If we wait we die If we jump we moght be lost forever But some will make it Those that do will know what must be done Take strength brothers and sister if the navy...guard and all other loyal branches In the name of the God Emperor and by decree of lord regent Robute Guiliman We must head for terra immediately The Emperor protects"
"Hey, ain't that the Vengeful Spirit? Horus's flagship?" "Yeah?" "The one vessel that wrought havoc upon countless battlefields for 10 millenia?" "Yeah?" "The ship that single-handedly destroyed thousands of fleets? Thousands of planets? " "Yeah!" "The sole reaper of a thousand billion souls! The bane of the Imperial Navy! " "YEAH!" "..." "Let's mug'em."
@@Dantaroen rofl reminds me of skyrim level 2 Bandit 1: "Oi that the dragon born? Savior of the world, slayer and devourer of dragon souls and vampire lord?", level 3 Bandit 2: "Aye that it is....." level 2 Bandit 1: "Lets rob em!"
They more focus on peoples fear than incompetence but also this was a case of simply being out gunned than stupidity and she was actually following orders! and the stupid thing to do was to follow these orders, she said that because she knew she shouldn't have because she knew it was suicidal but she wanted to be the one to kill him, In fact if she had done the smart thing and refused those orders he may have acted, also their less likely to kill people in more powerful positions.
@@KnIf0rTITAN lmao I'd want to see how the FaceTime between Creed and Abbadon went down. Creed must have given him a hard time for pussying out of taking Cadia, so my man just turned around took a few L's and decided to blow up Cadia. I don't wrong him doing it otherwise he'd never live it down that Creed handed his ass to him again.
Yeah she was not the sharpest tool in big Es shed. The only reason she survived the craft world attack was because a traitor lord high admiral sent a real hero to save her.
Admiral Catalia is secretly an Abaddon worshipper. That is, she is Failbaddon's Imperial counterpart. The Emperor Protects... _even the greatest of idiots._ 😅😂
they were engaging a gloriana class battleship from the times of the great crusade with a cruiser and a few escorts.... how did they think this would play out?
The worst part is, had she not sacrificed her battle group against the despoiler, they may have been able to intercept the chaos strike group that pushed the blackstone fortress out of orbit.
@@Costin_Gaming She needn't win the engagement, only prevent them from driving in a straight path towards the Black Stone fortress unmolested. If she broke off even half of the approaching chaos vessels even temporarily, it may have given other more substantial Imperial vessels, or perhaps the Phalanx (which wasn't too far away) a chance to engage the heavier vessels. Blackstone Fortresses are huge, I doubt they would have been able to effectively move it without nearly that entire cluster of ships.
@@ROFLobster4884 Time in BFG is compressed for the purposes of game play and narrative. It was probably hours between the squadrons attack on the Vengeful Spirit and when the Chaos strike force pushing the Blackstone into Cadia. Not shown here, but in the Fall of Cadia book the Phalanx took heavy damage during the fight with the Blackstone and was having to deal with Chaos boarding parties and a daemonic incursion on board with only a single company of Marines to defend the station. If I remember right nearly a quarter of the Phalanx was overrun before the pylons were turned on and caused the daemons onboard to dematerialize and the Marines launch a counterattack.
@@erwin669 Aye, you're probably right about that. I know distance and scale is compressed for gameplay purposes, it only makes sense that time would as well. Whatever the outcome though, dedicating her vessels towards an attack that /might/ of had an effect on the outcome of the battle wouldn't have been any worse than dedicating her vessels on an attack against a Gloriana - which is suicide.
Basically, Ol' Abby was tired of losing the siege for the 13th time, so he got fed up and threw a big Black Fortress -sized rock at Cadia. Talk about rage quitting.
Abaddon: *No! If those pylons endure, we will be undone!* Chaos Captain: Warmaster. I may have a plan, if you will hear it. Abaddon: *Speak it.* Chaos Captain: Okay. Have you ever seen the ancient holofilm Rogue One..?
I don't know I'm pretty sure they would be mentioning the Hollo Gundam. The federation forces used a giant space Colony as a weapon against the Federation
To be fair, it fought for hours, if they had a chance, it was now. It's not her fault 'Armless has plot armour lightyears thick, he really should have died when Celestine backstabbed him with holy sword...
@@KuK137That's not a chance that's called suicide they might have as well just rammed it and tried to actually do some damage. As for the battle of cadia I don't know abbadon is suppose to be uber powerful at this moment wouldn't be surprised if he could go 1v1 against a primarch given his current supposed power .
If I recall Abbadon decided that if he could not take Cadia he would destroy Cadia, the ramming of a Blackstone Fortress was his backup plan since Cadia was the only thing that was keeping the Chaos forces from leaving the Eye of Terror unchecked. But of course these are events that are already set by GW and the whole thing was more of a ground battle anyway (since its not like Battlefleet Gothic is WH40K main system) so there is really not much the player can do, its not the same as the first game were that was very much fleet actions as it was the first Campain for Battlefleet Gothic.
Onboard the Vengeful Spirit: Weapons Demon: "Did something just hit us?" Sensors Demon: "Nah. Oh hey, there's some space junk off the port side, fire secondaries to clear it up for our cruiser group." Weapons Demon: "So on it." Sensors Demon: "...huh. I think that was actually an Imperial strike group." Weapons Demon: "Oh...should I use something a bit stronger?" Sensors Demon: "Nah, just space junk now, and in small enough pieces it won't bother our crui---." Weapons Demon: "What? What is it?" Sensors Demon: "One ship was left alive and rammed one of our cruisers. Shit, that's coming out of my paycheck..." Weapons Demon: "You know, you're pretty bad at this." Sensors Demon: "Well, I was supposed to be the ships accountant Demon, but the paper work from you-know-who got messed up and, well, here we are."
@@Costin_Gaming I don't think ordinary Battleships can even swarm and wound that abomination! Not even the Phalanx alone can beat that Corrupted Gloriana Battleship!
@@christiandauz3742 Would be one hell of a battle, but I could see Dorn's pride and joy winning... not easily mind you! Goddamn Gloriana Class ships are fucking beautiful, 20 kilometers of pure, unforgiving power, I only hope we can catch a glimpse of Endurance in it's fully glory, maybe some day.
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 Isn't the Vengeful Spirit more powerful thanks to more veteran crew plus Chaos corruption and Abhorrent Tech? The Vengeful Spirit has an A.I. that has over 10k years of warfare experience and is smarter than all of the Ultramarines plus their Successors combined!
God damn, this was an unexpected epic surprise to see this in game. So here's the context. Cawl is working with Trazyn the Necron, and they're activating the Necron Pylon grid of Cadia. Literally every fighting force on Cadia loyal to the Imperium is fighting in those fields, the rest of the planet hopelessly overrun with heretics and demons. It still wasn't enough. They were falling. They were failing. Then Saint Celestine comes roaring in from the skies with a legion of Sisters Seraphim and literally brings fire raining from the skies as the living saint pulls a god damn 'Thor at Wakanda' and starts smacking shit DOWN, the Emperor's light blazing off her and literally cooking demons alive and healing wounds in her proximity, like a Paladin possessed of the very god they serve. Abaddon is forced to retreat from the rallied Imperial forces, the Black Templar hot on his heels, absolutely ROARING for the Despoilers blood. Abaddon pulls back into orbit. I bet he figured 'Shit. Well, we've mostly taken Cadia... I've already destroyed most of the pylon network in the other Black Crusades, how much damage could this last standing grid do if it activates...?' And then 'Thundercock 9000' Belisarius Cawl and 'I was bored and felt like being a hero today' Trazyn the Infinite turn on the pylons, and you see the result. 'Repelling' the eye of terror isn't really accurate to what this was doing. It. Was. Closing. It. Abaddon was about to lose the Chaos stronghold of the Eye of Terror. A million demon worlds would suddenly be purged without the warp to sustain them. The very eye is what Chaos relied upon to keep their toehold in real space, no fortresses or patrols or anything. If the Eye of Terror is closed, Chaos have nowhere NEAR the threat footprint on the galaxy. I bet in that moment, Abaddon PANICKED. He had sworn to take Cadia as a prize to prove nobody could stop him. But he had no choice but to destroy his prize, denying it to everyone. The Guard didn't break, in the face of all the horrors the warp could unleash upon them, on the pylon fields, the guard did not break. In her final moments, Cadia made Abaddon feel FEAR. The planet broke before the guard did. Cadia. Stands.
@@jamessmall6499 Tell that to the transformer films, regardless i'm not gonna deny he doesn't do amazing CGI and action scenes what I will put down is his ability to be a director and screen writer.
This gives the same vibes as a little kid endlessly poking an ants nest, only after the thirteenth day of it the ants get annoyed and fire an ICBM at his house
"This is Admiral Spire to all Imperial vessels! Rally at coordinates 154554! This isn't over!" *chaos forces collectively shit themselves at the prospect of fighting him again*
Yeah...killing an experienced and hard to replace Captain in the middle of a massive battle when he hasn't even actually tried to desert yet...no wonder their loosing.
To this day, the most insane part about this moment by far is the fact that even as Cadia was ripped asunder, the tectonic plates crumbled across the planet, were launched outside of the world's original atmosphere... The Guard still fought on!
As the atmosphere dissipated the beams of their lasguns were finally able to reach their enemies. It is said even as the remains of Cadia floated into space the weapons of her guardsmen lashed the armor of even the vengeful spirit itself, so that none can deny the planet broke before the guard did, and that Cadia still stands in the hearts and minds of every guardsmen that severs in the God Emperor's holy name.
These are the same lads with the "drive the tank closer. I wish to hit them with my sword" logic. The idea of getting launched into space without a ship. Purely to land a shot.....it scans like.
I like to think there was more than one traitor marine getting shot in the face by a meltagun wielded by some average Guardsman as the planet broke apart.
@@Palemagpiethere's the possibility that, once the earthquakes are over, sealed gun bunkers with backup power and EVA suited infantry could possibly still pop some shots off from their newly non magnetic, non atmospheric continental asteroid. It's a cool idea, obviously a rare occurrence between the firestorm and planet breaking earthquakes, but they fortified against orbital bombardment. It checks out.
“Vox Officer. Transmit a wideband message to all forces on Cadia. Tell them to evacuate the planet... NOW!” - Admiral Catalia A desperate order in an attempt to save as many lives possible even if she knew such an order was futile at that point.
That zoom in on the Vengeful Spirit 2:32 gives me chills every time. That ship is probably the single most important vessel in Warhammer, Horus, Sanguinius, and The Emperor all died there. I always wondered if they cleaned up the blood stains from that fight.
There's actually mentioning of a crystal statue of Sanguinius that just manifests within the throne room. Nobody built it, dozens of Chaos Space Marines have shattered it, but the statue always returns
It is said that those that died within the Vengeful Sprit reappear as psychic crystal statues, the most important being Sanguinius, No matter how many times it is shattered, the statue always returns.
When I first played this I though those were stars in the background. Now I know those are all ships. The sky is so full of spa e battle you can't see the stars behind them. Really adds to the desperation.
Yeah, pretty much the entirety of all of the battlefleets from around the Eye of Terror were at Cadia, as well as numerous battlegroups from across the Imperium, even from Battlefleet Solar. Not to mention likely numerous Rogue Trader dynasties and even pirates. Meanwhile they're fighting pretty much all of the Traitors, Heretics, and Renegades that have turned against the Imperium. Edit: Except for the ones in the Maelstrom
idk much about the 40k verse but something tells me "divert all power to weapon systems" likely didn't help the whole survival concept,i mean if they could ran cruisers while critical and come out fine,why not ramp up defensive shielding or whatever and ram the vengeful spirit O.o
You know, the real question is what would have happened if the Necron tech had succeeded in closing the eye of terror... it probably would have been just as interesting, considering this would be the opposite of the Horus Herasy
Chaos Forces can still blow up the Pylons after the Eye of Terror has closed I thought the Pylons on Cadia were not enough to close the EoT? Abaddon destroyed every other planet with Pylons before Cadia
@@christiandauz3742 Given time the Pylons of Cadia could have closed the Eye of Terror. However, they where activated when Cadia was facing its last days. Had it been possible to activate them before this with enough time, the Eye would have been closed, but alas the Fall of Cadia, combined with the destruction of the Necron anti-warp network, allowed Chaos to spread like never before. Now more than a century later, the breach is at its peak and Chaos is ascendant. However Cawl was able to obtain enough information to begin creating a new network of anti-warp pylons. His prototypes are still nowhere near enough to restore what was lost, but he continues to improve upon them and in time may succeed in recreating the anti-warp network that was lost and forever seal the breach in the galaxy. However, the Necrons don't trust humanity to do the work required in time and so have begun to recreate their ancient network. However many significant deposits of the black ore required for the production of anti-warp pylons are currently in possession of numerous Forge Worlds and the Necrons are not going to wait until the humans realize what they have.
@@Keemperor40K To make it worse the Thousand Sons and Word Bearers are attacking the Necrons to obtain the Pylon technology for their own nefarious projects Imagine if Horus managed to destroy all of the Pylons during the Heresy (Great Scouring would have been impossible)
@@christiandauz3742TS and WB: we have the full powers of chaos what do you metal men have. Necorns: weapons that destroy chaos and totally negate its effects. Your basically try to start a forest fire in a sea.
@@nothuman3083 The Necrons were responsible for the creation of the Chaos Gods (due to the War in Heaven) Daemons are very scary even for Necrons (Chaos can also negate the effects of Necron Technology and Armor) (Reminds me of Nagash vs Ka'Bandha in End Times. Both powerful characters that can't use their full power on each other. Still a brutal fight though!) The forest fire analogy isn't complete without some napalm, ten thousand stars hotter than the Sun and Nine Thermonuclear Missiles! Chaos has never unleashed its full power on its enemies Lucius' 'gift' works on Necrons by the way Word Bearers have beaten Necrons in the past (mostly by using Daemons) Even the Necrons would call BS on I-summon-Warp-Space-Whales-with-a-flick-of-a-finger Ahriman!
The Flame of Purity, lost with all hands against 3 blackstone fortresses. Purity Blade, lost with all hands shortly after warp translation above Cadia due to enemy bombers. im calling it, any ship with the name Purity in it will not survive through a black crusade in WH40k.
Not really...in hindsight, her battlegroup was closest to the Chaos Strike Force that pushed the Blackstone Fortress on Cadia so....this was entirely her fault that shit hit the drain.
That's why shooting the coward was a bad move. It is clear that up until this point the Silver Dawn fleet had survived thanks to the equilibrium achieved by the one on command who was foolishily brave, and the second in command who was foolishly cautious. The second said balance was no more, the fleet did go to hell.
@@Doomerbro99 Imagine the view from a smaller Imperial Navy Ship trying to ram it. That would be so badass if you just heard a Ship's worth of men scream prayers to the emperor as they blow up into the Vengeful Spirit.
"A good officer commands without doubt, and obeys without question." Well.... the first part i agree with, but look where blind obedience has gotten us.
@@FatalShadow13 Yes and no, even if Imperium does resemble Soviet Union, both SSSR and Imperium in the lore had plenty of capable individuals, who were able to shoulder personal responsibility. This "admiral" would court-martialled in virtually any regime for her conduct.
@@deserenitatem No, the guy got executed for pushing for a retreat, fearing that the battle was already lost, not recognizing the fact that Cadia was greatly important and even if it was faltering, their battlegroup alone might make the difference between victory and defeat.
Are you having a senior moment? You were healed and are no longer on life support, things got so bad with the destruction of Cadia that the Eldar and one of their gods assisted in healing you because they realized that chaos may well devour the galaxy at this rate.
@@DeathlordSlavik At the time of these events he's still in stasis, and is referencing as parody 40k seres in which the Emperor orders that Guiliman be removed from life support.
@@uniqueheimgaming4801 I remember when the whole text to speech first started seems so long ago now. "Checks upload date" Oh that is because it was a long time ago.
"Oh sure captain, its only one of the most infamous ships in the galaxy and has survived encounters with much greater ships than ours, but hey, for the Emperor, right?"
The Vengeful Spirit, a warship of legendary status that has survived 10,000 years of battle, with armor and shields that can shrug off almost anything, along with enough firepower to tear a hundred ships to ribbons, and you think you can take it down with a handful of cruisers and frigates? That's one way to die for the Emperor, I guess.
"This is the Admiral to Battlegroup Silver Dawn. The Archenemy has retreated to arguably the single most powerful voidship ever produced by human hands and further bolstered by Chaos trickery. Our seven ship flotilla is closer than anyone else. In the name of the Emperor let charge a tank with seven toothpicks!
Primarch Roboute Guilliman, Lord Commander. Ya....but we need a Dawn of War 4. But ensure it is a GOOD rts and not a strange backflipping moba... On a side note I hope the Blood Ravens meet you. Gabriel: Are you our Primarch? Guilliman: NO.... Jonah: Good....
i havent been this excited for a warhammer game since... probably warhammer total wars reveal, or dawn of war 3's cinematic trailer... so i mean, they are batting 50/50 on that so i mean, hopefully this isnt another DOW3. If its the first game but with more story, and more factions it will be vastly better then DOW 3 in every way.
Chaos Lord: “Milord, we are losing to the Imperial def-“ Abaddon: “Drop The Blackstone Fortress On them.” Chaos Lord: “W-What?” Abaddon: “Are you questioning my orders? This is our chance to break the Cadian Gate and let the Warp split the galaxy in two! Ram the Fortress into Cadia, IMMEDIATELY!” Chaos Lord: “Yes milord.”
Some of the larger vessel has the crew in the million, thanks to the fact large chunk of ship's system require manual operators. That include loading the main guns. Sometimes, crew get loss inside maintenance corridor. These loss crew end up setting up colonies in the lower decks, which can grew so large that standard maintenance procedure include flushing poison gases inside these decks to remove them.
"ONE LAST EFFORT BEFORE THEY OVERWHELM US! MAKE. IT. COUNT!" - this is how a servant of the Imperium should act in the face of death. The souls of all loyal soldiers will get their revenge during the final battle. You. Will. Not. Falter.
@@silvercat18 heretics, you shall be judged for your fault by the emperor in time but fierst you have to speak with the inquisition, your false gods are nothing but ruin, The Emperor protect !!!!
When I started getting into Warhammer lore, Cadia seemed like... Like a myth that the more experienced fans and players spoke of with a fond smile, like a cherished memory that made them just a little bit sad at the same time. I never really grasped the scale of Cadia until I was eventually taught Cadia's legend. An entire planet, overrun. One lone speck alone left to face the heretics and the Chaos. And most of those on world being... Human. I had thought for a looooooong time that the Guardsmen were 'just' people. Just men and women. Nothing special about them. 'Cadia broke before the Guard did.' A planet died... Before a doomed to die army of mortal humans broke. Against immortals and demons and a literal apocalypse... They stood against the tide and they never broke. They made every inch of Cadian soil SOAKED with traitor blood a thousandfold for every inch they lost.
Everyone who's saying the Admiral was dumb for attacking the Vengeful Spirit, she was literally ordered to by Commandore Trevaux. So he must take at least some of the blame
Instead of engaging in a futile broadside with the equivalence of a squadron of rubber dingies armed with BB guns versus the Yamato or Bismarck.. You think they might set the entire squadron on a spear-point collision course and have the rear ships detonate their reactors before their final impact. Hindsight is 20-20 I guess.
3:07 This is not going to end well 3:20 Yup, that's about how I thought it'd go 3:39 How did you expect attacking a _Gloriana_-class battleship with anything other than another _Gloriana_-class to go?
When you think about it, it was the ultimate admission of defeat. "I could never take this planet, and never will, so I'll just destroy it, having been beaten a dozen times."
As the planet broke beneath their feet, the fire of the Emperor burned brighter in their hearts. As the world shattered, the people of Cadia became martyrs. Despite this, one battle cry was heard across the Imperium. A cry that made the the Emperor proud and brought fear to the enemy: Cadia Stands! And so mankind stood firm against chaos and the glory of heroes was sang across the galaxy. The planet broke before the Guard!
@@valtersplume3726 Remember, the Pylons were built by Necrons, who were waging war on Old Ones, Orks and Eldars - who have natural connection to Warp and that Eye of Terror is technicly all that remains of Eldar Empire's coreworlds in realspace.
@@ZeroCanalX a bit after commenting that, I read a bit about the pylons and discovered their true purpose, so I wanted to delete my wrong comment. Thanks to your comment, I was able to find this comment section again, I'm now deleting my previous comment.
Yet as the planet fell, and plates cracked asunder, streams of lasfire could be seen upon the surface; for the planet broke before the guard. Cadia Stands!
When I saw the black on gold Fists emblem on that battle station, my heart shouted: For the love of Terra! THE MIGHTY PHALANX! For Rogal Dorn and The Imperium! FOR THE EMPERAH!
Maaan, I always enjoy this scene. Remember, the only reason that Chaos is the greatest threat to The Imperium (and by extension, the galaxy at large) is because the Necrons haven't re-awoken yet. God(Emperor) help them if or when that ever changes.
Ah the ship that hawkboi died on and the emperor became mortaly wounded...... such a craft gives me goosebumps the significance and stories of that vessel alone makes me quiver
1:50 some say you can still hear Abadon yell: “OH FUCK! OH FUCK! OH FUCK! SOMEONEDOSOMETHINGFUUUUCK!? ew some one swat those pest on our side where was I? Oh yeah FUCKFUCKFUCK!!!”
Abaddon was losing in the land-battle on Cadia (for the 13th crusade in a row now), so he beamed up and told some nearby forces to warp in and yeet the black stone fortress into Cadia. Oh yeah, and the admiral lady you hear throughout... She sent a bunch of frigates to take on one of the most powerful battleships in the entire galaxy, because that's always a good idea.