TL;DR human existence in 40k isn't about surviving one more day to have hope for a better tomorrow, its about surviving one more day because that's about the biggest middle finger you can give in a universe where everything is destined to die.
@@Crowgale That's what I am doing. But the universe just laughs at our middle finger. In the eye of the universe, our middle finger is meaningless. The universe was here billions of years before you and will be there billion of years after you. But at least the universe has something similar to us -> In the end is just eternal darkness
@@ThatOneElfEnjoyer To be fair, the Astartes are outside the authority of the Inquisition in much the way that Rogue Traders and Custodes are. The Ordos like to their their weight around, but they need to think *reeeeaaaal* careful if they're gonna start in on a few of the factions of the Imperium.
@@tetsatou2815 It's the hot mess that is the Imperium, with like a dozen factions that have 'absolute authority that only answer to the God-Emperor'. The difference is that everyone hates the Inquisition, so _everyone_ is watching them to pounce when they fall (including the Inquisition).
@@tetsatou2815 those three are very much not outside the authority of the inquisition, inquisitors answer to one man only, they can walk up and cap a high lord without the slightest issue, they are the only checks on the power of rogue traders
I love how calmly he delivers his speech, there's no anger or regret, not a single moment of doubt, only clear determination in service of the Emperor.
This is how I would begin a Warhammer 40k movie. I would have a world consumed by Chaos, reduced to degeneracy and discord. The Inquisition appears and puts the fallen world out of its misery; afterwards the film's main story begins.
I thought maybe it would just be a really grimdark way to begin the movie, unrelated to the main story. Making it unrelated to the main story would really drive home how dystopian and awful the 40k setting is, because it would not even be the main conflict! It would just be a "normal" thing that happens. That's how I would begin a 40k movie if I was tasked with writing a screenplay; I hope I'm explaining it coherently enough.
I would start a 40K movie with an opening crawl of the intro at the beginning of most 40k books: "It is the 41st Millenium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor of Mankind has sat immobile upon the Golden Throne of Terra. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the gods, and the master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible armies..."
Well, only maybe a million human dead. The world was under attack by an Orc WAAGH and also being consumed by a Tyranid Hive Fleet. So not so many humans was maybe left alive?
Sean Beahn The Codex Astartes does not leave room for interpretation: all those who forget the mustard on the ordo malleus's holy hot dog shall be sentenced to death by exterminatus, the emperor protects
Sorry, but the punishment is... _(sound of paper flapping)_ ...stern, verbal castigation of the transgressor by the offended inquisitor, lasting no less than twenty seconds.
The Inquisition doesn't sacrifice a valuable labour-and-materials resource trivially, no. It's either to prevent a cancer from spreading or to deny it to the enemy. And in Warhammer 40k, the human government(s) might be full of dysfunctional fascist religious zealotry, but almost everyone else in the setting is worse for the average human being.
CircleTheSkies Average humans? Yes. The galaxy as a whole? No. The Imperium of Man is up there in absolute worst things to happen. The only 'non evil' races in WH40k are Orks who just want fights, and at best Tyranids driven by their nature to consume. If the Emperor were to wake up, he would lead a new crusade to put the current Imperium of Man down hard.
Wulfborn Wholly in-accurate. The Imperium laid waste to whole planets whom they couldn't easily bring into the fold. The Emps himself hurled meteors at 40k's version of the Federation. Nay, the Imperium will fall into the mantle that was set for it in the Great Crusade, and humanity will take back was once theirs again.
Michael Merritt Did you read the Horus Heresy novels? The Emperor wanted his Imperium to be a realm of peace and science. He himself declared that he is only a man, not a god. The Word Bearers got punished for their worship of him, what ultimately led to the Horus Heresy. The Imperium nowadays has become the emperor's worst nightmare, the complete opposite of what he wanted the Imperium to be.
I like the fact that while we normally hear of Extrerminatus as this thing done whimsically on the drop of a hat a kind of "Oh one Ork showed up? better drop the Extrerminatus!" but in this scene (and game as a whole) we see not only what it takes to declare the death of a world, but how it effects those who make that call. No one sounds angry and there is no sign unwillingness at it but they lament that they must do it and consider all the lives they are ending with a single order.
Funny you should say that; in truth, the Imperium can indeed be quite trigger-happy with Exterminatus. For example, there's the story of Cyrene, the homeworld of Gabriel Angelos, the one talking about tragedy. Gabriel is quite secretive about the reason he requested that the Inquisition declare Exterminatus upon Cyrene, because Cyrene was a special case. When Angelos and the Blood Ravens investigated Cyrene on suspicion of heresy, what they found was not your garden-variety tale of an Imperial world falling to Chaos corruption. Instead, the world was going through a cultural change of a very different nature; they were preparing to throw off the shackles of the Imperial Creed and embrace such forbidden ideas as planetary democracy, free trade with non-hostile xenos, and allowing psykers to practice their powers unrestricted while living among the population without stigma or being handed over to the Black Ships. They wished to become a world where the people truly ruled their own fate. Soon after making this discovery, Angelos and the Blood Ravens withdrew and contacted the Inquisition (Though not before Angelos killed his own father in cold blood for supporting this political movement), to destroy this world before any of its dangerous ideas could spread. Always remember that, even where the taint of Chaos is entirely absent, even before the Emperor's grand designs were thwarted by the Horus Heresy, the Imperium was a nation which believed that in order to save Humanity, it would need to rule them all with utter ruthlessness. The Emperor, for all his supposed wisdom, cast aside his humanity to fulfill his grand dream of humanity's ascendance, and thus sowed the seeds of his downfall.
@@dragonslair951167 Letting psykers do whatever they want is a guaranteed invitation for chaos. While killing everyone was probably an overreaction, without some kind of crackdown the people would have found themselves begging for exterminatus sooner rather than later.
@@Kidneyjoe42 Maybe they would have known better and at least made more effort to teach psykers to control their powers if the Imperium didn't censor the existence of Chaos, for fear of losing control. The very things that the Imperium does to maintain control also make them more likely to rebel, and more likely to repeat the mistakes of the Imperium's past.
_" In fealty of the God-Emperor, our undying Lord, and by the grace of the Golden Throne, I declare Exterminatus upon the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a million souls to oblivion. May Imperial Justice account in all balance. "_ 🗿 *The Emperor Protects* 🗿
The script in this is perfect. Gabriel speaks like a true servant of the Emperor, acknowledging that the Inquisition is necessary and just and that it's the xenos and heretical scum which was the cause of such action.
Dumb 'umie might tink ya gota gud dakka in da exterminatuz but ya no gota da WAAAAGGGHH!!!!! Stinkin' 'umiez tinkin' day cana be fightin' da Greenboyz!
SturFriedBrains Oi! Boyz, we got da badass ovva 'ere! Hahaha! Oomiez have bigg dakkaz, and dey don't need WAAAGH to shoot 'em. And dat'z why dey are strong. But if ya get klozzah, u kan loot da big dakka and b'com da most killy ork evva!
Most epic speech in DoW history: It is in human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength, to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one’s head and succumb. Inevitably, many shall fault the hands upon the sword which failed Typhon, the Orde Malleus. But the inquisition merely performs the duty of its office. To further fear them is redundant, to hate them, heretical.. Those more sensible will place responsibility with those who force the hands of the inquisition. With some fortune, they may foster this hatred into purpose, and further take their own fate by coming to the Emperor's service. Yet ultimately, it was I who sent these events into motion, with a single blow from my hammer, god splitter -Gabriel Angelos Thought somebody might appreciate having the speech in text. This speech never fails to send shivers down my spine. Its simply that epic.
+Gren_Sonny I dunno, as cool as it is I like Kyras' speech before the last mission more. "Faithful... enlightened... ambitious... brethren. In but a single decade, a few mere swipes of the pendulum, we have gathered a sacrifice to Khorne that will be made legend. Though it was a simpler, weaker voice that illuminated me during my centuries upon the Judgement of Carrion... ...it was Khorne's messenger who showed me the true path of freedom from our pathetic corpse-Emperor. And what is this path? This meaning, this purpose to which we gather the skulls of our foes? It is nothing. There is no meaning, no purpose. We murder. We kill. It is mindless savagery, this UNIVERSE IS MINDLESS! In mere hours, billions will die. Innocent! Guilty! Strong and weak! Honest and deceitful! ALL of them! They will scream, they will burn, and for no purpose but that mighty Khorne may revel in their bloodshed! And united in this void of purpose, fear, or duty... we shall at long last be free! Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne! LET THE GALAXY BURN!"
+Andreas Björkman Gather yourself brother and look inwards, for your faith in the God-Emperor is not as strong as you think. It's; I declare Exterminatus UPON the Imperial world of Typhon Primaris. I hereby sign the death warrant of an entire world, and consign a Billion souls to oblivion. Do not worry, those not of the Holy Order of the Grey Knights are expected to falter in their devotion. You have merely failed in a way so many other have.
For those who ask, why is there only a million dead because of the Exterminatus: Typhoon Primaris was a deathworld, even before the orcs it only had a population of several dozen millions. Then came a Waaaagh, Then came the tyranids. It's impressive that even a few million people survived. And exactly because of the population's resilience, was this world a recruiting world for the blood ravens.
@@the_protectorof_smols3563 The really funny part is that even though the orks and tyranids were already swarming over this planet in the millions and it was mostly wilderness with only small human colonies, that STILL wouldn't have been enough to justify wholesale exterminatus, until daemons and Chaos marines started popping out of warp portals on top of all that.
You know they're just running around shooting each other down there. Might as well lay the Exterminatus on these heretics. ALRIGHT FIRE! [rapidly headbutts the button]
What I love about this video is that it shows how seriously the Imperium takes wiping out the population of an entire world-It’s not the casual flip of a few buttons before the planet’s completely forgotten like Star Wars or Star Trek, but a solemn ceremony that only takes place as a very last resort for those worlds whose existence represent a threat to themselves and the universe at large. There is no glory or prestige; only dignified obedience in the face of a terrible choice.
Yes, the Gravitas of it is captured perfectly. We all like to meme the Inqusition exterminatusing worlds on the drop of a coin (coff coff coff Kryptomann coff coff), but to consign a world to die is grave even for the Imperium. Its not something merely done when the enemy wins, but when that entire world has to go, for the good of all. It is the direst of choices.
Exterminatus is a FAILURE. It is an admission that the Imperium cannot reclaim the world... cannot defeat the threat... cannot save its citizenry there.
@@blackfalkon4189 I know this comment is old but the 40K inquisition does have oversight within its order. Each major act is audited usually by other inquisitor or a senior inquisitor to ensure it was necessary, to avoid abuse. Otherwise imagine the ridiculous amount of damage an unchecked inquisitor with an exterminatus fleet could do if they fell to chaos. The imperium is an almost laughably bad bureaucracy but they do at least have enough sense not to give a single person that much unchecked power.
@@Snapshot290 nah inquisitor Darkhammer & inquisitor Fyodor beg to differ the first one probably does an exterminatus to celebrate his birthdays he's done so many he basically does it on a whim, and the latter just invents new laws so he can burn whoever he likes, neither of them is subject to oversight (probably because they're Lord inquisitors) then there's inquisitor Greyfax the witchhunter who's a -witch- psyker herself
The Senatorum Imperialis estimates the need for Imperial mobilization levels of 20% and up to 50% in the case that the initial tyranid invasions were merely a vanguard of the main host.
To be honest, I find Gabriel Angelo's speech kind of... uplifting. Dont put blame on the Inquisition who has burned the world of Typhon Primaris for they are just doing their duty, but instead put your full hate and rage at those who forced the Inquisition to Exterminatus the world of Typhon.
Jon Snow Actually no. The jews are not like the tyranids/chaos/xenos/enemies of Mankind who's are hellbent on destroying the Imperium. Also Nazi officers does not equate to the Inquisition, ever. Where did you get that idea? The Inquisitions task is to root out all kind of heresy, xenos and threat to mankind(a real threat and danger to the whole human race), thus the reason why Inquisitor Adastria in the game has been called by Gabriel Angelos so she can see if the Exterminatus that is about to fall on Typhon can be halted by her presenting evidence to the black ships that the local forces of IG and Spacemarine can stop the spread of chaos, heres and xeno attack at subsector Aurelia. However the threat of the Tyranid going back to the sector, Ork pillagers and the spread of chaos is all to real thus the reason of Exterminatus. So no, your example is incorrect. Also that ISIS thing example you brought up is also bad and ill-informed. It is the local forces in the region(Iraqis, Syrians, Kurds, Turks and the few christian catholics) who are fighting ISIS and not the US, go read the news.
I never said the Jews were like the Tyranids/Chaos/Xenos/enemies of Mankind, I was referring to them as the innocent party (Ie, the millions of innocent civilians on Typhon who had to die). Also, you could easily compare the Imperium in general to the Nazi's or just generally bad guys. Racism, super-soldiers, genocide, superstition, symbolism, zealotry, thousands of souls sacrificed every day to keep the Emperor semi-alive etc. My ISIS example was not ill-informed. The US are fighting them via air strikes and the US is the only country in the world (aside from Russia) with the nuclear capability to level an entire region, so I couldn't well use any other country in my example.
Jon Snow The sacrifice of human lives living in Typhon is unavoidable. General Castor(correctly) said that they cannot enact a massive evacuation of innocent people/soldiers/humans away from the planet without the enemy sniffing their movement and then either sabotaging the evacuation or worse escaping into orbit too. I cannot say that there are no innocent people involved in the exterminatus of Typhon Primaris but what I can say is that the alternative of not sacrificing those million of innocent is far worse if heresy/xenos/chaos is allowed to flourish in the carnage(another dead world consumed by tyranids, an ork empire or worse a daemon world). Also you cannot say that the imperium has not done anything to prevent the Exterminatus of Typhon Primaris because they had poured countless of resources and men on the Subsector up to the point that they send an inquisitor(or perhaps one of many inquisitors) so she can investigate the matter and halt the exterminatus. I can also compare the Imperium to Rome or to Sparta or even ancient China or Japan and even Persia for that matter. Racism, elite/super-soldiers, genocide, superstition, symbolism, zealotry, thousands of souls sacrificed every day to keep the Empire semi-alive etc. As for the ISIS thing, the brunt of the force attacking ISIS today is the local kurds/syrian and Iraqis. The coalition is doing little because they have confidence that the local force(as they promised) is able to stop ISIS. It is a bit insulting if one ignore's the effort of the local soldiers/militia's doing the brunt of the fighting. Also, what the hell why are you comparing the imperium to real life things!? Where is the fun in that?
Jon Snow "I was referring to [Jews] as the innocent party (Ie, the millions of innocent civilians on Typhon who had to die). " - no, that's not what you were doing. You're very sloppy with your analogies. A better example would be if the nuclear powers of the world nuked some innocent country off the map because an engineered supervirus had an outbreak there, and if not contained, it threatened to decimate or wipe out the whole planet. That's the level of threat that uncontained heresy represents in W40k. Note that it's still not an analogy to something that's actually happened, because it hasn't, because OUR WORLD ISN'T NEARLY AS CRAPSACK AS W40K and therefore doesn't warrant that level of response. That's why any comparison of the sort you've been trying is nonsense. Yeah, the Imperium is a dystopia, but the threats to the Imperium are such that even the best intentioned, most moral and sane Inquisitor may sometimes find themselves forced to sign off on an Exterminatus as the lesser evil.
Imagine this as the ending to a film You spend the whole time watching a planet fall to chaos and the imperium fail to stop them resulting in the main character becoming critically injured and sending out a desperate transmission and the last thing they see is the ships entering orbit and they die knowing that they did their duty and the heretics will not win followed by it transitioning to a scene like dis Or something like dat idk lol
@hassanmessiah6119 or both Like it opens with a shot of a si gle ship and the main character is the fleet master retelling the story in a way Like throughout it goes back to hizm and u see another ship or 2 join the fleet And you only see the true scale of his fleet at the end as it breaks orbit
Gabriel was a hell of a character to take the full blame for what happens to his chapter on himself. That’s a heavy burden to bare. Costing two planets their lives.
His faith and the sheer weight of his burdens... would break most people and most career soldiers. His faith in the service to the imperium... His devotion to the purpose. That's the main thing that defines him.
1:07 "It is a sign of strength, to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb" Thats why i love good old warhammer. Amezing quotes. I was never overly found about the design of ships, or weapons or anything really, but what is said, not what is shown, for me, is what carries the entire setting and makes it my favorite fiction.
Inquistor: I have come... Citizens: Hooray! it's the Holy Inquisition! Inquisitor: ...TO PURGE YOU ALL IN HOLY FIRE! Citizen: Oh no it's the Holy Inquisition...
To be fair, the Death Star evaporates planets in a single shot. However iirc they can only do it once in a blue moon. Exterminatus destroys the surface of the planet and/or makes it uninhabitable for any kind of life except for the double phase torpedo method, but they can pretty much spam it around the galaxy
@@iprobablyknowyou2713 Yeah, the Undine bioship fires a pure anti-proton beam. And 7 of them and a focusing ship can ruin a planet in 12 second, and by that I mean turn it into galactic dust. Not an asteroid field. And 1 of them could solo a borg advance tactical cube. And they have perfect immune system. Unable to be infect by ANYTHING. It's the only species from Star Trek (Minus the Borg) that'd fit into 40k easily.
@@aiosquadron It got destroyed by a couple of fighters and is nothing compared to the reality eaters from doctor who or Halo from Halo it's only used as a show of force not only that but a fleet can just move to the other side of the dish to avoid the laser and it doesn't have that much anti ship weapons which is why it must always have a escort fleet. plus having an exposed exhaust pipe and a space station that can destroy planets isn't much compared to other sci fi super weapons.
To be honest, Exterminatus looks like a quick and painless death though. There are fates worse than death in this universe or rather a slow agonizing death. Exterminatus just instantly vaporizes you.
Not really.... Star Wars has better space flight they don't need the warp to travel the stars and shielding and many other advanced technology.... 40k would win on ground combat easily though but in space they would get stomped
Typhon Primaris is basically unsalvageable anyway with the Genestealer Cults infestation, threats of Chaos looming and all that, the Ordo Malleus decided it would be best to put the planet out of its misery as quickly as possible. The Emperor Protects
I really like the part where one can rule their own fate by not consigning themselves to grief, depression nor to the malicious whispers of the Dark Gods. That one can rule their own fate by fostering the hate and anger inside them, tempering those emotions into purpose and come to the service of the Emperor, the Emperor whose sole want is to serve mankind, thus serving yourself and those you love in return.
I would view near-c impactors as a superior method of planet burning. Blow a mushroom cloud out the opposite side of the planet and shatter it into a new asteroid belt, don't just resurface it.
Meh this was a light Exterminatus. They didn't even use Two-Stage Cyclonic Torpedoes, now THAT is proper Exterminatus. The planet becomes debris in space.
Admiral Spire, it is said that heresy is like a tree. Its roots lie in darkness while its leaves wave in the sun. You can prune away its branches, even cut the tree to the ground. Yet it will grow again, ever stronger. Such is the nature of heresy and why it is so difficult to destroy. Some may question my right to destroy a world of ten billion souls. But for those who truly understand, realize I have no right to let them live. No sacrifice is too great. No treachery too small.
I remember the first time i saw this, in game. After 2 and half games of trying to hold Aurelia together, to see the emerald of the subsector burn, was heartbreaking. Having played so many missions there, all the triumphs, all the defeats and retries and pain, to have it struck from existence after all that, was just agony. And then the mad dash to try and save meridian, and the hundred billion souls that call her spires and manufactorums home... Brilliant.
We should be grateful that the population of Typhon Primaris only numbered 1 million where as in Battlefleet Gothic the Inquisition wiped out 10 billion souls of a Hive World.
True, but the risk in the game was that the exterminatus wasn't going to stop with just Typhon Primaris. Well, unless you play as Chaos, then you don't care if it continues or not.
10 billion is actualy a pretty damn low number for a Hive *world* Hive worlds usualy have at least 50 billion souls and can have populations ranging up to 10 or 20 times that number.
@@lkvideos7181 On the rulebook, Each hive city can have 500 bilion of population, But its still conservative estimated some fans estimated their number can reach 5 trillion population of Each Hive City, in Each Hive World there estimated 5 until 20 of Main Hive City with Trillion population and 20-50 of Small Hive City with Bilion Population. Terra is completely ecumenopolis compassed encassed with this Hive city that completely covered entirety of Terra Surface except the Ecclesiarchy Palace,Inquisition Palace & Imperial Palace, Some Fans estimated their could be any 500,000 until 2,300,000 Hive city covered completely 100% Terra and its tall half of them reach nearly 50-60 km so tall that the spire it function as Spacesport of Space Vessel On the rulebook it said that Terra Population its Quadrillion and its one capital planet alone
Really powerful scene. Everything just compliments each other. The rhetoric of angelos' speech the music and Paul Dobson's voice acting, and the movie.
With THQ gone, there is very little hope to see 40k in good form of video game again. . .Still, the license of DoW was transferred to Creative Assembly. I hope they would make Total War : Warhammer40k
This speech is amazing. In something like star wars a world being destroyed has no impact. It's just flashy visuals to up the stakes. This speech shows how serious of an act this is, you aren't blowing up some rock you are resigning millions to death in the name of the emperor
In the chaos and bloody war of sub-sector Aurilia...the most devastating weapons are unleashed to clear whole life planet,ripping off any breath,any living creature. This is so EPIC AND TOUCHING, we can learn that sometimes we have to sacrifice too much to live, Warhammer 40K i LOVE YOU DAWN OF WAR SERIES!
A guards man sees the inquisition deploy its exterminatus and he salutes as the blast consumes the world he stands on and the last words from his lips are not of fear nor a plea to be saved but an act of faith and knowing as he says loudly "The emporer protects" as he is shortly consumed by the burning wall of cleansing flames
"It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. "It is a sign of strength, to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb." Angelos understood quite a few intricacies of humanity and didn't forget them as an Astartes. That's why people love him as a character.
Paul Dobson is one of the greatest voice actors ever and his portrayal of Gabriel Angelos is fantastic. Criminal how they recasted him in Dawn of War 3 but then Dawn of War 3 doesn't exist... Even so, they should bring back this talented cast of voice actors.
+MrAwsomenoob ''Inquisitor, the blue cat xenos have kicked our miners off planet what should we do?'' ''Hmmm.. Exterminatus.. Or no exterminatus..? Hmm.. Yes yes i think i know now'' *repeatedly slams the red exterminatus button*
+MrAwsomenoob No, this is when we call in an ass-ton Astartes and send hundreds and hundreds of drop pods down to obliterate the nexi of their filthy heretical psychic network and kill their leaders and organizers, and breaking the backs of their primitive armies. Then the Guard comes in with Catachans, capturing all the still-psychically-active life on the planet and feeding it to the God-Emperor as an exotic snack-offering to His eternal grace. Then call in the Sisters of Battle to burn ALL THE TREES with their flamers while laughing maniacally, only deploying those Sisters currently experiencing the Red Rage to ensure maximum fury. Then, AdMech strips the planet bare of anything and everything remotely useful remaining. Then, we Exterminatus the fuck out of the place for good measure and because fuck you Pandora.
Well Typhon wasn't a densely populated world to begin with. It is hard to settle a jungle planet, even if isn't a super hostile hellhole like Catachan.
Well, Typhon Primaris' description in DoW Retribution lists the population at only a few million if I remember correctly. It's not very hard to believe that all the shit that planet went through in the last few years before the Exterminatus would kill 90%+ of the population. Keep in mind, the population has Orks, Nids, and a variety of Chaos cults running around, with a few Eldar occasionally too.
*Me on Typhon Primaris seeing the Ships that will bring EXTERMINATUS upon this planet* *Turn towards heretics and chaos* “Oh Glorious day! The God-Emperor has blessed us. The gift of my devotion to his Holness is that the last thing these eyes will see is the crestfallen looks on all of your heretical faces as this planet is Destroyed! Where are your blessings of the warp now? We shall burn together, but unlike you, we shall be welcomed into the living protect-full arms of the God-Emperor! Rejoice with me brothers! It’s a good day to DIE!”
