Biblical Patriarchy - Session 4 - Eric Conn | Blueprints for Christendom 2.0 2024 

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To be honest here are some verses that debunk the patriarchy: Here are a few Bible verses with explanations that challenged patriarchal norms: Galatians 3:28: "There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female." Paul is emphasizing our unity through Christ transcends all human divisions or hierarchies. By grouping "male and female" without qualifier, he affirmed their equality counter to patriarchal differentiation. Proverbs 31: The portrayal of the wise "woman of valor/noble character" running businesses, helping the poor, being respected, etc. was radical in a society where women lacked worth outside marriage/motherhood. It celebrates female capability, dignity, and leadership. Ephesians 5:21: "Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." While submitting to husbands was cultural, Paul balances it by saying all Christians mutually submit "to one another" in relationships. This combats patriarchal logic of male domination/ownership, instead advocating humility, care and dignity between all people regardless of gender or role. Luke 10:38-42: Jesus being taught by Mary and Martha subverted societal assumptions women couldn't hold positions of student/disciple or engage deeply with religious doctrine. His inclusive, non-hierarchical, and relational teaching elevated women's dignity counter to patriarchal restrictions.

​@@HeartOnHerSleeve Galatians was describing how Christ isn't just for one group, but for all who receive him in faith. Read the whole chapter as a single chapter and this is clear. That was poorly cherry-picked. Proverbs 31 describes an industrious housewife. And it would be clear to any first temple Jew (its original audience) reading/hearing the poem that she was contributing to her husband's household/estate. The bible was written withing the cultural context of its authors. The emphasis of the poem is on her husband's regard for her, and her charity and lack of idleness as a housewife. Ephesians: you forgot the verses that come directly after. 22-24: Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. That was a bad cherry-pick. Luke: this passage describes Jesus as the teacher, not the one being taught. You should read it.

Calling it a bad Cherry pick isn't a proper defense. It comes off dismissive nor are you defending your claims of why it was a bad explanation. Christ in his ministry uplifted women. Paul when he was speaking to his audience was saying women and men among every other race were equal in God's eyes. It implied more than just faith aswell. It's ironic because this pastor is trying to justify controlling behavior and twist scripture.

@@HeartOnHerSleeveThe verse he cited completely demolishes your claim. Wives are charged to submit to their husbands in the same fashion as they are to submit to Christ. There is no charge for men to do the same for their wives. Don’t let your personal feelings get in the way of God’s word and His structure for human life. Adam was formed first, Eve was designed to be Adam’s helper. If you have a problem with that then you need to pray and submit to God. We all love you, sister. You are not less-than, you just have a different form and function than men and we both have our specific roles to follow.

@@HeartOnHerSleeveIf our roles don’t matter and there’s no more male or female, can men be women? Can husbands be wives? Can fathers be mothers? Should women fight home invaders while the men hide with the kids? See how fast that ideology falls apart.

Brothers and sisters, this is EXACTLY the admonishing we need to hear today in our culture. Since big eva and Russell Moore stopped talking about biblical patriarchy years ago, glad Eric Conn and Co. have done a superb and winsome job continuing the Christian tradition from way before the 80's.

All that Eric does seems to have some 🌶️

100%. And the church encourages this insubordination, especially among wives. And men get to go home and deal with it. Wanna know why the church is 61% female? This is why.

Great analogy

Why would any woman want to be loved like an organization? Tax deductible at that.

Pretty sure that aspect of the relationship is not ignored

God didn't create the patriarchy nor did he curse the world with feminism. This is such a weird and unbiblical take.

@@HeartOnHerSleevecope

That's your only reply is "cope." You're not my husband and you don't get to tell me what to do. Grow up you're not a man you're a coward. You can't reply with any scriptural evidence to back up your claims. I respect men who are not abusive, not narcissistic fools. @@ogloc6308

⁠​⁠​⁠@@HeartOnHerSleeve Where did you get this from? You have a very poor understanding of scripture to think this ?!? God created and intended patriarchy as set out carefully in the Bible. Sin gave us feminism. Sin gave us abuse of patriarchy.

​@@HeartOnHerSleeveThere is no order or structure to God's creation ? Cool 😎

Yeah - it’s so difficult to tell them apart from all the women who wear them 🤦‍♀️

This is what you're concerned about an article of clothing? It's a tie. That's not a sin to wear that. This is grasping at straws at this point.

@@tracycroll4325 Wouldn't you agree that it is more appropriate for women to adorn their bodies with fashionable articles that serve no function?

The effeminacy of neck ties? The history of the neck tie goes back to the crevat, which in turn goes back to a type of neck bandanna worn by Croatian mercenaries. Male formal wear, from suits, to ties, to boots, all has its origins in military attire, and from a time in history where militaries were 100% men.

@@HartyBiker Let's not appeal to antiquity. Somebody should have called out that nonsense hundreds of years ago. I doubt the rank and file embraced the trend, probably imposed by some fruity officer type. Yes, they've always existed even in the military. And yes, they've always been influential in formal fashion as well.

Which analogy was that? I'm curious and struggling to find it?

I like ambiguous comments based on the internal dialog going on in someone's head without a timestamp or context...

​@@virtualpilgrim8645I don't get your point 😏

Does Christ tell you what to do?

Sounds like you found yourself a real servant leader there, who let's you do what you want. In my house we serve the Lord. His standards dictate what we do.

You're threatened by me not wanting to be abused. He's more of a leader than you'll know. I don't entertain narccists. Have a blessed day.

Christ doesn't want women to be scared of him. Nice try though.

@@elshaddiliben193mostly He tells us what NOT to do. Which is a husband’s role for his wife as well.

If I may ask. What if women decide to stay single and not marry. This movement is going on now. Many women are staying celibate. At the end of the day no one can force anyone to be in a relationship.

@@HeartOnHerSleeve If a women “decides” to stay single, then she is to commit herself 100 percent to the service of God and the church through her gracious, charitable, relief work. This is a unique calling and not very common among women.

Id say thay exists among nuns too. There's missionary work aswell. However, God may have a calling in her life just as he does with anyone. It could be in her worklife too.​@@westyso.cal.8842

​@@westyso.cal.8842I'll say God first and yes she can make that choice for herself. Unless we go back to have arranged marriages which wouldn't bade well then yes she has a choice to stay single.

@@westyso.cal.8842 she should be socially shamed in the church till she humbles herself to serve Christ fully or a husband fully.