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Bicycle Chains to Improve Cornering on Ice - will it work? 

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@TTime685
@TTime685 8 месяцев назад
It basically mimics ice skates. Put chains on the rear tires and that will help the rear end from kicking out as easily
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 8 месяцев назад
Infinite burnout recipe.
@1FeistyKitty
@1FeistyKitty 8 месяцев назад
seems like tires with groves would be good to secure a chain in
@ReinhardSchuster
@ReinhardSchuster 8 месяцев назад
Would be easy to do
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 8 месяцев назад
@@ReinhardSchusteryep you could also a later the tyre tread with a re groover.
@stevenwithanS
@stevenwithanS 8 месяцев назад
The chains are smooth in that direction. If you had short bits welded across between them (like a ladder) it would work much better for stopping. It might put you into the windshield.
@fampic7133
@fampic7133 8 месяцев назад
Like a Chainsaw chain?
@urignorance2922
@urignorance2922 8 месяцев назад
What?...😂😂 reread 🧠👨‍🦽​@@fampic7133
@legionofanon
@legionofanon 8 месяцев назад
I think doing that would make them more like traditional tire chains, and those are very effective for acceleration and stopping. Personally i have never used them on the steers, but I've heard it makes for a really rough ride for the driver at least in a semi
@heywoodjablowme8120
@heywoodjablowme8120 8 месяцев назад
I would have wrapped the chains around the rim. You can do the same thing on a bicycle with zip ties for snow riding. It works killer.
@ethan1142028
@ethan1142028 8 месяцев назад
That's a tank tread
@Pulverrostmannen
@Pulverrostmannen 8 месяцев назад
when you added the second one it lead to a "chain reaction" 😂
@jessiemcgee7057
@jessiemcgee7057 8 месяцев назад
with 2 chains you basically turned the front tires into skis
@StephanBuchin
@StephanBuchin 8 месяцев назад
And this is why it doesn't brake well.
@matiasketo5820
@matiasketo5820 8 месяцев назад
@@StephanBuchin I am thinking, not to lock the brakes. Tires should rotate even when breaking.
@StephanBuchin
@StephanBuchin 8 месяцев назад
Indeed, locking the wheels is not the best way to stop a car ☺
@imfloridano5448
@imfloridano5448 8 месяцев назад
Change how the chain is mounted like in the shot with the bike chain broken down into 10 pieces. Going through the spokes like tire chains would be more effective
@sk8erONland
@sk8erONland 8 месяцев назад
Yeah or ice skates
@MrVeryCranky
@MrVeryCranky 8 месяцев назад
You should use chainsaw chains. The direction of the teeth would determine grip. Careful not to get cut.
@dummy3333
@dummy3333 8 месяцев назад
Yep, two chains in opposite direction, one for acceleration, one for braking (on a front wheel drive car).
@M65V19
@M65V19 8 месяцев назад
It will work like pair of skates
@4doorsmorewhores674
@4doorsmorewhores674 8 месяцев назад
i want to kiss you
@Chopped93VX
@Chopped93VX 8 месяцев назад
Unfortunately that wouldn’t really work unless they took the time to grind off teeth that interface with the drive gear on the saw and the chain guides on the saw bar.
@kennethney4260
@kennethney4260 8 месяцев назад
​​@@Chopped93VXwhy wouldn't it work? The drive teeth would just bite into the rubber and hold them in place even better
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 8 месяцев назад
Love that you guys are starting to do more scientific approaches. Willy nilly is fun but there's some good stuff in here and multiple runs of things help get the anomalies out.
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 8 месяцев назад
Great works sir ! Just a thought about improving the braking with the chains, I’m thinking if maybe every 10 or so chain links you inserted an appropriate sized bolt and nut through the chain link so , the end of the bolt protruded through the chain link about 5 mm , essentially making the chains like spiked tyres. Given the nut and bolt would be slapping the road every rotation it may require a dob of weld on the nut/bolt to secure the bolt from coming loose or crush the end of the bolt in a vice .
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 8 месяцев назад
A lot of motorbike hill-climb racers use chain like this--transverse across the rear tire--for improved traction in the dirt. It works extremely well.
@dand3975
@dand3975 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for that comment, Might work well on a garden tractor for snowblowing if things turn icy.
@AA-tb4ff
@AA-tb4ff 8 месяцев назад
vlads laugh is so funny
@SeabornNomad
@SeabornNomad 8 месяцев назад
now, for threaded studs that let you anchor the chain at certain points. marvelous work as always
@GiveAcademy
@GiveAcademy 8 месяцев назад
Id be interested in seeing 1 chain on each but not in the middle. Like all on outside or all in inside or one out and one in. I theorize this will not limit the contact of the tire on the ground as much, so braking would not be effected as much. And the offset for steering may allow for a quicker ability to grip.
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 8 месяцев назад
Weld transverse links between two lengths of chain to the width needed for the tire, 8-12 cm apart along the circumference. Widen the separation between the two loops to the edges of the main surface area.
@craigr6186
@craigr6186 8 месяцев назад
You guys crushed it again ! Amazing
@steve_masschelin
@steve_masschelin 8 месяцев назад
I want Garage 54 to make a video on how fast you can spin a studded tire until the studs start flying out.
@justavillain
@justavillain 8 месяцев назад
I’ve done 1 chain like this on the front wheels of my 4wd tractor for snow removal, it works pretty good
@Boycott_Wendys
@Boycott_Wendys 8 месяцев назад
I've put 8 of them on my argo😊
@moefuggerr2970
@moefuggerr2970 8 месяцев назад
Tire keels. Sold only by Ronco.
@MarkLoves2Fly
@MarkLoves2Fly 8 месяцев назад
I love the paint work on this vehicle! For stopping improvement the chains should be attached radially. I suggest an experiment with radial chains on the drive wheels, and like you did here for the steering wheels. For a second experiment, add the chains radial all the way around, then add chain like you did in this video over the top.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 8 месяцев назад
I’d say having traditional tire chains. With the bicycle chains on TOP of the traditional chains. Would dramatically increase performance and longevity of chains
@EvrttGrn
@EvrttGrn 8 месяцев назад
I wonder what would happen if you added chainsaw chains to the rear tires with the teeth pointed forward on the contact patch to aid in braking.
@straightjacket123
@straightjacket123 8 месяцев назад
I thought this went well. I seen how you did the tire to the motorcycle. where it ran across through the spokes of the rim. Would you be able to to do that on a car tire? I understand the caliper will have clearance issues. Just a thought. I definitely thinks it's worth trying out the chainsaw chain, to replace the bike chain. I agree with that idea I had read in the comment
@MrPazzerz
@MrPazzerz 8 месяцев назад
I am wondering if you could attach the chain with the studs by using a longer stud to go into the stud holes and thereby making the chain more stable on the tire.
@dennis-nz5im
@dennis-nz5im 8 месяцев назад
Add small bolts in the spaces in the chain and tack weld on. Maybe 10 mm proud of chain and 4 mm bolt
@CH-Kiteboarder
@CH-Kiteboarder 8 месяцев назад
chaiswaw chains!
@phillipkrieger3975
@phillipkrieger3975 8 месяцев назад
Chains front and rear I think would make it handle like it were on rails. Wonder how chainsaw chains would grip?? 🤔
@robcenrc
@robcenrc 8 месяцев назад
You should try to put chains on rear wheels as well.
@ATruckCampbell
@ATruckCampbell 8 месяцев назад
9:08 vehicular jack slaughter.
@shauljonah6955
@shauljonah6955 8 месяцев назад
Looks like fun. 👍 always a great job everyone keep at it.
@brianwelch1579
@brianwelch1579 8 месяцев назад
1 chain front, 1 chain rear!!! gotta try it!!
@MrDeticus
@MrDeticus 8 месяцев назад
Have you tried diverting some of each cylinder exhaust into another cylinders inlet. Wondering if that would become a natural supercharger or something similar?
@lucasmonks5767
@lucasmonks5767 8 месяцев назад
Very good show thank you
@GodisGood1776
@GodisGood1776 8 месяцев назад
Love watching your channel
@richardrosick7854
@richardrosick7854 8 месяцев назад
I think it would be nice to see how it would turn with chains on the back too, love the show's
@Monni95
@Monni95 8 месяцев назад
Obviously you need 3 chains per front wheel to increase contact area, some of the chains also need to be thinner. This is because of the angle of the tire changes when you are steering. Normal snow chains on rear wheels would help with braking.
@scottsteigerwalt3546
@scottsteigerwalt3546 8 месяцев назад
Put some screws in the open part of the chain for the back tires.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 8 месяцев назад
That’s brilliant
@kirknelson156
@kirknelson156 8 месяцев назад
instead of bicycle chain maybe you should use chain saw chains, you should get turning grip and stopping grip, if you have the teeth pointed the right way.
@kaliikleja
@kaliikleja 4 месяца назад
chains with little spikes or something like this and also on rear tires. Also it would be interesting to see, what old lada or mosvich engine do with modern 0W20 oil. oil pressure and so on how engine works with this oil. Also 0W30 oil. 0w20/5w20, 0w30/5w30 own choice, other number is important in this test.
@hirandom100
@hirandom100 6 месяцев назад
try sharpened bolts in between some of the chain links
@Universal.G
@Universal.G 8 месяцев назад
Cut a groove into the tire so the chains sit a little further in, just like the studs. That way you have more contact with the rest of the tire.
@busyguy7479
@busyguy7479 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Vlad for another fun video. would like to see tires with cleats sticking out of tires by 1/2 inch . anyway keep the videos coming may GOD bless in these troubled times.
@blazodelic359
@blazodelic359 8 месяцев назад
Between the two rows of chains, a thick wire or rebar could be inserted crosswise, on the front and rear wheels. 
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 8 месяцев назад
Make sure to ballance it!!! 😂
@Not.The.Avg.Smitty
@Not.The.Avg.Smitty 8 месяцев назад
Chainsaw blades coming up next...😅
@grndzro777
@grndzro777 8 месяцев назад
And they are thin enough so you could add a bunch of them. How would 10 chainsaw chains per tire affect ice mobility?
@Not.The.Avg.Smitty
@Not.The.Avg.Smitty 8 месяцев назад
@@grndzro777 my model tank I made with a potato cannon. I tested the traction using them vs. bike chain. The looks made it go into madmax. Cool but not what i was looking for, but gripped like no other. In fact I maybe wearing a bandaid in videos from testing. 🤣
@sgottoboni
@sgottoboni 8 месяцев назад
Some people put what they call grooved tires on the front of their sand rails for better steering in sand.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 8 месяцев назад
Cool sorry bro
@TheGeezzer
@TheGeezzer 8 месяцев назад
Lets Do This!
@fadefade388
@fadefade388 8 месяцев назад
I think it could be better if u put the chains horizontally
@rberth9016
@rberth9016 8 месяцев назад
How about you remove the front wheels and replace them with some kind of ski? I did this to a Honda ATC and it worked good enough in the snow for a trike 👍
@europana7
@europana7 8 месяцев назад
chain the back tires to stop oversteer ?
@jacklarson6281
@jacklarson6281 8 месяцев назад
put some screws, nails, or some kind of studs sticking out from through the links in the chain to improve grip
@matiasketo5820
@matiasketo5820 8 месяцев назад
How about just put two regular chains (not from bicycle, motorcycle or chainsaw)? Tire pressure will hold them in place and may be they would not get skids. Well anyway in tractor regular chains without any spikes will be enough, better than without them anyway. But there was some ladderstyle between them also...
@simontist
@simontist 8 месяцев назад
Ice skates! EDIT: How about fitting ice skates in place of the front wheels. or a snowmobile setup?
@RandomAxeOfKindness
@RandomAxeOfKindness 8 месяцев назад
Might stop faster if you turn the steering wheel slightly (slightly!) left and right. Ice skates, after all. Next time, try putting crossbars under the chains at regular intervals. Reinventing the tire chain, but for fun. Mostly, I'm curious how long those bike chains will last, especially if you hit pavement. But there are heavier chains . . . .
@harloquin666
@harloquin666 8 месяцев назад
Chainsaw chains next? On the back also to stop the fish-tailing might help
@factsoverfeelings21
@factsoverfeelings21 8 месяцев назад
Thank for putting your videos in English.
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 8 месяцев назад
it works even better if you use an old tire and cut a groove in the tread about half the dept of the chain ive seen them use chans on go kart slicks for racing on ice and they first cut grooves in the tires (angle grinder held against a turning tire works eaziest )
@matiasketo5820
@matiasketo5820 8 месяцев назад
better to use old summertires. Grooves are in them allready.
@SakisTheDrifter
@SakisTheDrifter 8 месяцев назад
Can you run a car without a thermostat? i am curious to see with this cold weather if the car will get to operating temperatures
@brandonerhardt4905
@brandonerhardt4905 8 месяцев назад
Not when it's cold out. Won't get to temp. Even with stats, lost of times on diesels, the rads get winterfronts to stop air all together.
@Monni95
@Monni95 8 месяцев назад
It's possible to run a car without thermostat, but it needs some adjustments... Even during cold the engine can overheat without thermostat as you need to also disconnect the radiator fan.
@Smartzenegger
@Smartzenegger 8 месяцев назад
Why not test this breaking with ABS???
@britkasablja007
@britkasablja007 8 месяцев назад
I wonder if you turn wheel all the way to the left or right while hard braking and it should brake better then no chain 🤔
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 8 месяцев назад
it will just make the car go that direction
@kyle8380
@kyle8380 8 месяцев назад
There's a lot of American rap songs that talk about this technique. They love talking about putting 2 chains per tire.
@entiffo9064
@entiffo9064 8 месяцев назад
Put a chainsaw chains around wheels, will get alot better grip also for acceleration!
@chrislmcnair
@chrislmcnair 8 месяцев назад
Probably better than the remanned tire chains my company provides for our semi-trucks lol
@jesseerickson662
@jesseerickson662 8 месяцев назад
I wanted to see them on all four.
@TomoReso
@TomoReso 8 месяцев назад
Please test if piston rings are rotating, I myself believe they are constantly rotating, however many of my friends believe they do not. I believe only on seriously worn engine when cylinders become oval they might not rotate... Or if anyone reading has some videos about it, or proof, please do let me know :)
@westcoast7380
@westcoast7380 8 месяцев назад
Nice to know
@volvo245
@volvo245 8 месяцев назад
Chainsaw chains next on all wheels!
@whatnow9653
@whatnow9653 8 месяцев назад
Standard short hex head self drill / tapping screws (shed roofing) as studs for tyres. ???
@partizans7
@partizans7 8 месяцев назад
Need try with chainsaw chain. Terth helps stop
@DavoRavo
@DavoRavo 8 месяцев назад
Make a plow at the back as brakes.
@williamcronan7874
@williamcronan7874 8 месяцев назад
Hey Guys, How about chain saw chains on the 2 Drive wheels !???
@swaffdog6521
@swaffdog6521 8 месяцев назад
Maye try it with the the chains on all four wheels.
@brandonerhardt4905
@brandonerhardt4905 8 месяцев назад
Chainsaw chains!
@tomaszbudnik521
@tomaszbudnik521 8 месяцев назад
next time try with chains from chainsaw... :) should improve lateral grip as well. в следующий раз попробуй с цепями от бензопилы... :) должно улучшиться и боковое сцепление.
@christophermorin9036
@christophermorin9036 8 месяцев назад
Silly Garage 54. A bicycle chain isn't what you want, a Chainsaw chain is!
@OU-xc4os
@OU-xc4os 8 месяцев назад
Nuts and bolts though chaines
@atomicgarage5606
@atomicgarage5606 8 месяцев назад
Two chains!!
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 3 месяца назад
Why not on the rear wheels?
@brushbros
@brushbros 8 месяцев назад
What happens when you hit bare pavement? It doesn't look as though you have any. hahah I love your channel.
@jessiemarlogan1990
@jessiemarlogan1990 8 месяцев назад
Love it.
@EXPLODINGETDOOD
@EXPLODINGETDOOD 8 месяцев назад
You guys turned those tyres into ice skates
@killerdinamo08
@killerdinamo08 8 месяцев назад
ABS would improve braking distance I wonder?
@RinksRides
@RinksRides 8 месяцев назад
2 CHAINS!
@zombiekilla1O1
@zombiekilla1O1 8 месяцев назад
Replace the bearings of the conneting rod on the crankshaft with ball bearings
@MrPazzerz
@MrPazzerz 8 месяцев назад
Wonder how the braking would go with a car that has anti lock braking system. ??
@leveluplife8585
@leveluplife8585 7 месяцев назад
If RWD, put them on the front and if FWD, put them on the rear. Might help in a couple ways but hurt in braking still
@FJJonker
@FJJonker 8 месяцев назад
make some train wheels on a lada and drive it on the tracks
@thatguyalex2835
@thatguyalex2835 8 месяцев назад
Top Gear did that, so it would be cool to see Garage 54 make a car on train tracks.
@skygirl341
@skygirl341 8 месяцев назад
put them in horizontal line threw the rims you will have so much traction but use motorcycle chains!!
@vikkingdirk
@vikkingdirk 8 месяцев назад
why do you not put chain saw chains on
@silverback3633
@silverback3633 8 месяцев назад
Try the chainsaw blade chain.
@ejdcvagnao
@ejdcvagnao 8 месяцев назад
O que acha de testar combustíveis de supermercado, como óleo azeite, querosene, bebidas alcoólicas diversas, álcool de limpeza etc. E ver o rendimento deles.
@dustydreambreather9155
@dustydreambreather9155 8 месяцев назад
What about 2 Chene per tire for all four tires
@fynetuneyrgf
@fynetuneyrgf 8 месяцев назад
Should have tried chainsaw chains, I would bet the stopping wouldn’t have been so bad. Just be careful not to get run over.
@DaleC.
@DaleC. 8 месяцев назад
science 👌
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 8 месяцев назад
One chain per tire, all four tires! The problem with 2 chains per tire, is turning them into ice skates. Excellent lateral control, (steering) no acceleration, no braking.
@turbowankel1264
@turbowankel1264 8 месяцев назад
Love it 👍
@wtfiswiththosehandles
@wtfiswiththosehandles 8 месяцев назад
Actually it's a proven concept. Dune buggies sometimes use front tires with a big rib in the center.
@SoundStream101
@SoundStream101 8 месяцев назад
Try a chainsaw chain... that'll work. 😊
@sss333s3
@sss333s3 8 месяцев назад
For braking, you need the chains sideways
@specter6633
@specter6633 8 месяцев назад
How about some chains in the back to stop over steer
@donwright3427
@donwright3427 8 месяцев назад
Use chain saw chains more bit nice
@mathewmillhouse5907
@mathewmillhouse5907 8 месяцев назад
Does the lada not have abs
@blaineblaine7776
@blaineblaine7776 8 месяцев назад
1 chain on all 4
@heywoodjablowme8120
@heywoodjablowme8120 8 месяцев назад
Old bike messenger trick is to wrap zip ties around your rim 2 between each spoke, front and back for snow riding. It works killer.
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